I have tried online dating and I got zero results, no replies, and increasing anxiety/anger that was turning me into someone I didn’t like. So I closed them deleted them and stopped trying to date. I have never been happier with my life.
i get tons of matches, but often zero replies to my messages, indicating women are using it for validation and are all going after the same top 5% of men out there.
Online dating is actually for making money. It's no longer designed to result in successful matches, but keep ppl, mainly men since that's the bulk of the user base, interacting with the sites on a regular basis. It's pretty much trash.
You just need to learn to sort out the scammers, predators, and fake profiles. There are methods to do this effectively. I've had good luck with dating apps. I don't regret using them.
Sooooo dose that mean you are happily married now or in a long-term Blissful monogamous relationship????? Please answer me I want to know because I have never done online dating????
@@BK-pc3ei sooooo.....oki then!!! List five positive things you can give to a woman in your life?? And make that list very short and simple!!!! Exp.... #1 living stability, meaning a stable roof and food on the table,....#2.... dependability, meaning I am where I say I am and I will be coming home when I say I'm coming home and I do not lie and cheat!.... see you bro those are two really important qualities for female!!!!!! If you can't provide either of those and no wonder you're life might suck and you might be single!? So please if you cannot give a short and sweet simple list of five reasons why a woman might want to spend her life with you then you have no reason to complain or talk s*** about anything!! Especially a dating application!!!!!! A dating application can't change who you are and what kind of piece of s*** you are!!!!!! Sorry brro!!! Real talk !!!
Same I have not been on it for like 10 years+ and all of a sudden I wanted to see whats going on and what is new bur before i do open up an account wanted to see what is going on amd it sounded fucked up after a few research
Be good. Be confident. Have class. Have integrity. Be happy without. Live to your fullest, even without needing a partner. It'll come when u least expect it.
@@NazeemCloudDistrictthat’s both scary and comforting Scary because I can’t imagine seeing myself old And comforting at the thought I may have someone at that age
@@illyimmbe the best version of yourself but accept reality. If you mid you mid, stay in your league or else you will get depressed when all of the 10/10 girls reject you.
Nice, I was wondering if I was the only one who caught wind of that ... That's a very classy and stable thing to say ... Saying someone's 'mid' is usually meant to be an insult ... Most of the time it's used against women by insecure dudes who are in the habit of over compensating.
Online dating is indeed bad. In person meeting people is just as bad. Everybody is socially awkward so if you approach somebody, they dont know how to receive you properly which makes the hunters less sure of approaching people in the first place. Society in that area is falling apart.
My success rate in person is literally 100% & the only time I’ve been denied is by a married woman who just said “sorry I’m married” so idk what to tell you 😬
@ethanschlandt4389 Yes and that is great. But mind you it is not the same as a guy women naturally want vs the average man not being able to have the average girl. So if you are 100% successful, it's not your level of game, not to say you don't have it. It's because they are attracted to you and at the point you can say the exact same things another guy says and close the deal while the other guy wont.
It's certainly a new field to learn. I think the most solid people will stand out eventually, So long as they're fine playing a longer more secure game
@@Elfking94 this might be true but how sad it is that society has gotten to the point where the dynamic of a possible good family is only when you are in your late 30s and not in your mid 20s anymore.
If i owned a dating app, selfie verification would be mandatory. I believe it would solve some problems. To clarify, it is to ensure that the person in the picture is the one that owns the profile.
😂 no chance an I taking a selfie daily. Selfies take horrible pictures and are for the most egotistical people who are horrible at relationships. Also a selfie proves nothing for identifying the person.
If you have to analyze a dating app this in depth to be able to have a chance at meeting someone on a dating app … you’re probably better off trying to meet someone in grocery store.
What is not being explained here is the #1 fact: You are recurring revenue and you will remain so as it's in the best interest of the Corp. They have zero interest on you finding anyone with the exception they "hope" you "believe". It's now a fools game.
Exactly! The amount of daily users & memberships is what drives the profitability ratings up. More sucessful matches would result in a drop of users which means less profit. Since men outnumber women 4:1 on OLD, it is in the companies interests to keep men feeling hopeless in dating so they'll continue using the apps. When you factor in the recent social fear of approaching women, it further creates a hyper-reliance on the apps & just adds to the cycle. It's really jacked up.
@@Raphael4722 oh that is a whole thing to itself. This may come off as a dissertation, but I love helping guys with this topic tbh & there's a lot that plays into it. Firstly, the main mistakes guys make with approach often come from their own self-esteem (either too little or too much), lack of social confidence or going straight for the number way too quickly. Most women need a little warm-up interaction to be able to gauge how she feels in the man's presence & feel out his vibe or intentions. Without that warm-up, her guard will go up, the guy may come off as shallow & lustful (aka "creepy") & rejection chance increases 10-fold. There has to be a balance of feeling it out first vs blindsiding her with your interest. Secondly, a fantastic way to practice building up social skills & confidence in approaching is engaging in brief interactions on a regular basis. Talk to cashiers, waitstaff, the elderly, other guys. When you're out & about, look ppl in the face, smile a little & say "how's your day?" as you walk by. Those tiny things go a long way for everyone, especially given the mass decline of basic social interaction. When you talk to a woman, go into the approach without the goal of getting a number or date. Just focus on the goal of having a pleasant interaction. This can do wonders to override rejection fears & anxiety because the goal of "I'm going to engage with my fellow human" is way less intimidating than "I'm going to ask her out." Women can also sense when we're about to get hit on which sends the guard up so starting with basic interaction helps to put her at ease as well. If the interaction goes well, maybe you respectfully ask for the number, maybe you don't, but the important thing is you met your goal which is still a win. If someone is not receptive, no worries, kindly wish them well & move on. We're not all evil succubi ready to scream assault for daring to breathe in our direction & I hate the fools that made that idea a thing. When you are asking for a number, it can help to say something along the lines of with a "I hope I'm not being too forward, but you seem like an interesting person. I was wondering if I could get your number or give you mine if you're comfortable with that." It's not pushy, very respectful, acknowledges her as a person rather than an object of desire & puts the ball in her court. If she declines, thank her for her time & wish her a good day. Working on good posture is another great simple mind trick for confidence. Practice dropping the shoulders & rolling them back to a comfortable, relaxed position, straighten the back & neck to bring the head over your spine, relax the jaw. Take a few deep breathes. Whenever you notice you are slumping over, simply adjust & breathe. Body language is often a projection of the mind, but it can also work the opposite way so as you make good posture a habit, you will start to feel more confident. As everyone knows, women love confidence lol. Lastly, this one is a little more tricky & subtle, but it helps to observe body language cues so you can better gauge who is more open to being approached. Many guys say "oh women & their silly hints" but they're often totally subconcious, unintentional social cues that even men do. Things like crossing the arms vs facing their body towards you with the arms relaxed, longer than usual eye contact with a slight smile, putting themselves in your line of sight repeatedly or orbiting around you, mirroring/ copying behaviors (say you take a drink, pick something up or scratch your head & you notice the other person does the exact same motion which often means they have their attention on you as well). These are all good social cues that someone is receptive to your presence & may be interested in conversation. It takes practice to start to read these things, but once you pick up on them, you can't unsee it. Google body language cues & delve down the rabbit hole for a bit if you want to learn more. Also look up Mark Manson. He's a fantastic author, confidence, dating & relationship coach that has some amazing insights across the board. I hope this helps!
It isn’t just the algorithm and that they’re money pits though. I’m a woman and I know I’m not a 10. I know many men won’t swipe right for me and that I’ll be rejected and that’s despite many people telling me I’m attractive, in my regular life. Rejection is painful. However, from what I’ve gotten from comments from men, outside of dating apps, they become angry, because they don’t receive replies. Some of that is the fakery of the algorithm. They want you to never meet anyone and pay until eternity. But, the other question, for men and women is - are you attractive? Second is - do you think a dating app is like shopping on Amazon? The idea that you wanted that person and didn’t get them, objectifies them. If they’re not attracted to you - they aren’t yours. You bought a subscription to a possibility. You didn’t buy a person. A person, with the option of not being attracted to you.
The Netflix analogy is spot on. The only thing is that I only watch Netflix when it’s something viral that I’ve heard from others or on social media; otherwise, I don’t like to spend time searching for shows but that’s my experience.
On my first day of installing tinder, I had 7 matches, and 4 of them agreed to meet me...Pictures are important and the first line is very important. I pretended that we are already in a relationship with them...A joke here and there and ask for a phone/date early. Be bold, very bold. Never kiss their ass. Never say directly that they are beautiful especially if they are beautiful.
What if you get out of the RU-vid comments, go take real action in the world and try it and try other things. Rather than sat in your house procrastinating.
@@fortchyx422January to April 30th I was going to social meetings 2 or 3 times a week. Churches, bars and random Meetups. Literally nobody wants a serious relationship nowadays anyways. 😂
As a girl, It’s really hard to find a serious and genuine person in online dating. Most of them will message u at first then will disappear the next day 😅
that's because you're swiping out of your league. if you're a woman complaining about dating it's absolutely your fault. you live dating life on easy mode.
There's no evidence that being selective gets you better results than being non-selective (as far as you do not swipe literally right every time and hence act like an actual bot)
Imagine auto swiping right!? Some are needy enough to do it including a friend of mine. If you're not super selective you're reducing your value YOURSELF. Focus on developing your skills and career. The rest will come. You need lazer focus.
This is truly extraordinary. I read a book with a similar theme, and it was truly phenomenal. "The Art of Meaningful Relationships in the 21st Century" by Leo Flint
One could say online dating apps period only worked in the early days before they become ubiquitous, the algorithms, got optimized, the male model Chads on on them, etc. Everything in dating has just gotten progressively harder over the last 30 (and really 60) years. Is what it is.
Yeah I think so too. I feel like online dating (and social media) started out with good intentions and worked well before it became all about making money for them.
@@andrewjordan4811 yep I would say 85-90% of the female profiles have “no hook ups, “ no DTF”, no FWB, no polyamorous relationships on. Meaning that’s what most guys are on the apps looking for.
I'm a man in his late 20s that's attracted to Filipinas and I always get hell for it. They're trolling me saying "just get a girl here, they're just gold diggers!" Bro there's gold diggers everywhere and I personally love Filipinas, they've always been good to me Even if we didn't work out, and I would like to have their genes in my bloodline. People can say what they want cause I know what I want and I wouldn't pick anyone that I didn't trust.
@@boomerkobold3943 sad part is that it's coming from the "anti racist" people. The same people that'll claim they're against racism during elections are the same ones being a racist POS.
Everything is very simple. Girls don't want to date because their photos are edited with a bunch of filters. They are afraid to show their real face and figure.
Your not wrong on that explanation at all which is why Ive deleted the dating apps and other ppl did too. The whole you have to pay for a premium subscription in order to use the dating app is stupid as hell and a wastw if money.
What it boils down to is whether or not "oversaturation" on the app has occurred or not, and fake accs. If the app is oversaturated, you're almost SOL. I'll explain: the "saturation" is when there are too many users that aren't that serious about it. And the other thing is fake accounts, if you're swiping on a bunch of people who aren't even real then ofc you're not getting a date. This is why apps that require verification tend to get you more conversations.
Fake & old profiles overwhelm Hinge where I am .. I automatically ask the attractive women why they’re on the app in the first place & then ask to prove they’re real by answering a random question or repeat a made up word .. so far, no responses .. shocker
Iv spend 7 years with two diff women I met through online dating. Easily the worst relationships Iv ever had. Even if she looks good, online girls are just busted. Mentally or emotionally or both. Respect isn’t given. Because odds are she settled. And if shit hits the fan, shel go right back to swiping. Easy come easy go. Meet them in person, falling for a pic is retarded. Just push through it and walk up to a stranger. I know it sux, no one said it’s easy. But it’s how our parents met. If they had online, we wouldn’t be here.
About the right auto-swipes, I don’t know if the algorithm works like you say it works. I am an average to below average looking guy, and I always swipe left on women who are 7/10 or higher (because why bother?), and yet all I have been shown for the longest time is hyper attractive women which is no good. I want to find the normal looking women and I know that they are there somewhere, but they are hidden from me for some reason.
I am for the 5 to 7 range and it works for me. I will be honest the man to woman ratio is so bad in Menver, CO that women can get most of the standards met especially when it comes to height.
Be good. Be confident. Have integrity. Go out, dance, socialize. 'f' dating apps. Live to your fullest and be happy. It'll come when u least expect it.
I had Tinder for a few hours. Just for curiosity. The amount of sxual harassment and hatred was mindblowing. Just because I am attrractive but didn't response like a hooker that has no sense of self. Dating apps are like Uber Eats - if people don't get what they want instantly they get very very rude. I had death threaths for saying I am not willing to visit a stranger in their appartment...
😂😂😂 You have to actually prove that you're an interesting person who has depth and a lot more to offer than just looks. If this happened to you after just a few hours, it probably means you sent the wrong message
This is true tinder actually sucks !! They want you to pay for everything (I m sure soon will ask you to pay even for log in session 🙃) tinder is in its last days is going the same road that badoo at beginning both were good but their end start when wanted us to pay for everything .. 👎🏻
This is perfection. I had the pleasure of reading something similar, and it was an absolute perfection. "The Art of Meaningful Relationships in the 21st Century" by Leo Flint
That goodness they don’t do in in Europe this dating apps, still to the old fashion ways, meet through friends social events, bars restaurants, museums etc. Being told when I was in the USA by a girl there she love dating using apps, she said I never have to buy food the guy take her out to dinner, buying flowers, going away for weekends breaks etc, she said she no intentions of having serious relationship with theses men she met, I ask her how she break off with the men, she said and I quote, just tell the guy he not compatible and she not ready for serious relationship, and move to next one. That really sad and shallow
Well it works for me, it also lets me see attractive girls. The trick is you have to talk to alot of girls in message even if you dont hook up. I think its about being social ❤
Don’t pay! I never have. In a decade I’ve had 6 women from POF and one was a long term relationship. Also two cold approaches, one was a 6 month relationship. Some of these were on off/recurring things. So 6 out of 8 were from a dating app.
The proof is when they are selling 6 month memberships, then nickel and dime you on superswipes,stars, enhanced profiles temporarily or what ever gimmicks that bilk more money out of you. CHADS only benefit on apps.
This is absolutely true, I have tried a bunch of several dating apps and paid on them but the women seem not real to me, they just fight to keep you chatting for a long er time on the dating sites like you came to stay there other than , meeting in life (face to face), I hate it, It seems to me like most of them are AI operated and these women on the site have no actual feelings, Oooh 😮 dating apps suck
Personally ive tried so hard to get girls/matches on dating app and realized its hopeless endeavor. Ive had dating coaches help me with it and for some, done stuff todd said and it just doesn't work . Note I'm average looking
Because online dating is not meant to be successful anymore. It's designed to keep men feeling hopeless so they'll continue using the sites which keeps the company profitability ratings up. They're literally preying on men. Even further, by keeping men feeling insecure about their chances, it adds to the fear of interacting with women in real life which then creates a hyper-reliance on the apps.
@@justacoginthefkerythen why stay stuck on the apps then? The apps don’t have that kind of power unless it’s given to them. How bout get off the phone, go out and actually make real effort face to face? Apps are passive anyways. Masculine energy isn’t about passivity
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I had installed tinder and specified the age i want for men it was bringing me older men and most of them are just there for fun nothing serious just because am attractive doesn't mean am a h** .it's so annoying
Poignant words for both those seeking lasting relationships as well as those seeking more "immediate results". Please continue to speak truth to horniness!
I highly disagree. I’ve been using dating apps for years & what I’ve found out is if the app knows what you like the algorithm works against you because it would study what you like & dislike then put the women you find supremely attractive behind a higher paywall even if you had a normal or regular subscription. For example, hinge would take your type & put them in their top picks & tell you to buy roses to send to them instead of a like. If you have extra money to spend on roses on women that would highly unlikely match you back it’s fine. It’s best to confuse the apps by liking every picture so that it does not get a lock in what you find attractive & also the app does not know what you find attractive because attraction is subjective. Case closed
Oh no, I swiped right on everyone hoping to weed out the nonsense, but now I’ve messed up the algorithm. I thought the men showing up were a bit obscure. I find it all so shallow and repetitive. I’m burnt out after just one day. It’s also surreal to go outside and not interact with any men outside of business, only to be hounded on the app like I’m a supermodel. I’m absolutely not! I spend time telling decent guys I’m not ignoring them, I’m just overwhelmed. It’s bad for our minds and pair bonding but realistically what are people to do who work and can’t spend exorbitant amounts of money to portray they’re the most interesting man/woman in the world?
It works best to send messages and ask to dialogue off the app by asking for a personal number. And ask to meet in person within a few messages. otherwise you'll be wasting your time. Remember you're most likely not the only one she is chatting with.. So it's best to act or move on.
Okay okay better advice restart all dating apps but try to fill it out too much your goal is this is me. Text but don't perv it and don't over text think back and forth. There also nice clothes haircut and smell nice
When MAJORITY of these dudes on these apps are 5 and less !!! The males are mad because women in US are raising their standards on these "ordinary, common, average, fair" looking guys!!! Studies show it's the men on these apps who are getting ghosted the most because they are ugly monsters 👹👺🧟♂️🧟. Hardly have any type of personality, most are broke , too many got ED! Like these dudes in this country are becoming more useless !
