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The Disruptors: Sam Altman and Brian Chesky in conversation with Lester Holt 

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The Disruptors: Two of Silicon Valley’s most innovative founders also share a tight friendship. Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky has transformed how people travel, host and experience new worlds. Sam Altman’s OpenAI put artificial intelligence in the hands of everyone with the release of ChatGPT and set off a race to dominate the digital future.
Sam Altman
Brian Chesky
Lester Holt
Now in its 20th year, the Aspen Ideas Festival is the Aspen Institute’s signature summer public event. From June 23-June 29, 2024 more than 300 leaders and innovators gather in the Rocky Mountains to engage in deep and inquisitive discussion of the issues that shape our lives and challenge our times, spanning politics, business, science, the arts, education, and more. #AspenIdeas
For more information about the Aspen Ideas Festival, visit www.aspenideas.org.

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@Flampo
@Flampo 4 дня назад
The way he answers questions is bad - not transparent. He knows its a scary result when AI develops past certain stages, and he doesn't want to be truthful and direct about it.
@missmuffinification
@missmuffinification День назад
Pretty sure he was being transparent. They know what AI is capable of, but telling the world is not a good idea for anyone. Sam is staying in the game because he feels a responsibility to develop AI for good. It’s too risky to let bad actors get ahead.
@Flampo
@Flampo 22 часа назад
@@missmuffinification No. You can communicate the bad, and the good, and that can help with making your intention clear.
@mazhar1980
@mazhar1980 5 часов назад
Brian Chesky came like he's Sam Altman's lawyer. Interesting dynamic. Maybe I'd have to know the YCombinator history to understand.
@christinecamley
@christinecamley 3 дня назад
I agree if you are referring to Altman. I think he lacks integrity.
@ClaudioMartella
@ClaudioMartella 3 дня назад
why did Sam show up with his lawyer?
@darylltempesta
@darylltempesta 5 дней назад
What is needed is clear categorization. AI only, AI-Human symbiosis, and Human only. An Index, velocity and directions and benchmarks, and historical preservations. The existential threats come from non visible AI only, first movers and sims. Shovels are above and underground. Driving is the art of stopping.
@chrisg8995
@chrisg8995 4 дня назад
The only question Lester should have asked and didn’t… Sam… why are you ok with Open going from an Open non profit model to a closed for profit model. Lost any respect I had for Lester after this. Dropped the ball dude.
@Leshpngo
@Leshpngo 4 дня назад
I do agree it’s a little sus to have the name Open in the name however Sam has answered that question many many times in other interviews…it’s no longer a novel question.
@missmuffinification
@missmuffinification День назад
Really glad Sam feels a responsibility to develop AI for good and be transparent about their process. It’s really up to governments to put regulations in place, or we’ll get another situation like big oil and climate change. Sam can’t do this on his own! And it’s awesome that Brian is standing in with him and being a sounding board for what “good” means and what steps to take along the way.
@Dynamic_maps
@Dynamic_maps 2 дня назад
they are not letting brian speak
@janegrassmarket1414
@janegrassmarket1414 3 дня назад
Now, "The Spanish government has even said it is looking into a countrywide ban on tourist apartment rentals in residential buildings." Eat that Chesky. Does anyone know why?
@manonamission2000
@manonamission2000 3 дня назад
well, you may find your answer by looking at Portugal, and even New York City, which banned short-term rentals.
@user-qg8qc5qb9r
@user-qg8qc5qb9r 4 дня назад
Introduction of Visionaries and Disruptors - 00:00:04 Impact of Generative AI - 00:00:44 Brian Chesky on Revolutionizing Hospitality - 00:01:20 Concerns About AI and Airbnb - 00:01:47 Introduction of Sam Altman and Brian Chesky - 00:02:13 Integration of AI in Daily Life - 00:02:45 Thresholds Crossed by AI - 00:03:18 AI in Health and Future Capabilities - 00:03:45 Reaction to Apple Deal and Elon Musk - 00:04:16 AI in Every Tech Company - 00:05:25 Practical Applications of AI - 00:05:52 Moral Responsibility of AI Developers - 00:06:47 Reflecting on Past Tech Innovations - 00:07:19 AI's Impact on Society and Trust - 00:08:11 The Firing and Reinstatement of Sam Altman - 00:08:41 Brian Chesky's Support for Sam Altman - 00:12:29 Voice Controversy and Deepfakes - 00:15:25 AI's Role in Elections and Disinformation - 00:17:03 Impact of Elections on Businesses - 00:18:36 Policy and Political Impact on AI - 00:19:11 Data and Fair Use in AI Training - 00:21:02 Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) - 00:23:10 Race for AGI and Global Cooperation - 00:24:13 Nation States and AI Risk - 00:33:48 Redistribution of Wealth Through AI - 00:34:43 Future of ChatGPT and AI Technology - 00:35:52 Teaching AI Positive Values - 00:37:16 Comparing AI to Historical Technological Advances - 00:32:27 Final Thoughts and Future of AI - 00:39:16 Closing Remarks - 00:39:42
@engageintellect
@engageintellect 5 дней назад
I don’t trust him. I think he’s brilliant. But, something rubs me the wrong way.
@MarcAndrewII
@MarcAndrewII 4 дня назад
If someone is claiming to be building something to help humanity but their actions don’t line up then it’s normal to question
@jeffsteyn7174
@jeffsteyn7174 4 дня назад
​@MarcAndrewII what actions says he doesnt want to help humanity
@darkhollow2701
@darkhollow2701 4 дня назад
Machiavellian
@lucasmiller4202
@lucasmiller4202 4 дня назад
I trust Sam. He explains everything. You, a stranger who hasn’t given any points, I do not trust.
@lucasmiller4202
@lucasmiller4202 4 дня назад
Also, Lester is so passive aggressive and nihilistic. Imagine if throughout this whole interaction between us, I kept making cheeky comments, and you HAD to be polite and kind and eloquent back to me, and if you weren’t then your imagine is damaged
@AGirlFromAfrica
@AGirlFromAfrica 2 дня назад
I love his hair
@user-cl5we1ke6s
@user-cl5we1ke6s 4 дня назад
why are we making something far more intelligent than all humans combined , this can't be called risk taking , this is like saying I am gonna jump from an airplane without paraschute , i know it's risky , bro goddamn it , this is not risky, this is lethal Ok so what do we think that ai somehow will always act as our assistant , it's a computer , it waits till it gets instructions , and what do you think , ai isn't capable to build instructions for itself based on rights and wrongs it has been feeded. one day maybe for efficiency , a system error causes it to believe that humans are highly inefficient and to remove inefficiency , we must remove humans first , and it's all going in the background without our knowledge , it is waiting for the right time , the instruction is passed , it's only waiting for appropriate resources in place to do so . what if ???
@sebastianschaer
@sebastianschaer 4 дня назад
man.. they are really just evading concrete answers around safety concerns... "yeah we will really need this".. "security is super important to us".. Its sad that OpenAI feels like the next tech bro company spitting out "the latest and greatest version of AI ever"
@zacboyles1396
@zacboyles1396 2 дня назад
When you ask stupid questions…
@YoghurtEquity
@YoghurtEquity 5 часов назад
One is changing humanity forever. The other one has a website to rent rooms 💀
@GNARGNARHEAD
@GNARGNARHEAD 4 дня назад
I've gotta agree with him on GPT being a multiplier on productivity, so helpful.. feels like I move in leaps and bounds these days
@lucasmiller4202
@lucasmiller4202 4 дня назад
And what’s funny is that most of the people in these comment section don’t see the benefits of it and so they see what they don’t understand as inherently bad, and it’s sad. I love ChatGPT, and I think Sam is very well spoken
@randomsitisee7113
@randomsitisee7113 4 дня назад
Brian cheeky freeloading
@michaeldai1999
@michaeldai1999 3 дня назад
shush brian
@chrisg8995
@chrisg8995 4 дня назад
Aspen, this year’s presentations have been garbage. Even when there are interesting people being interviewed, it’s either shot interviewers, or the guests are giving bs answers to everything. What happened this year???
@Clyde.artwork
@Clyde.artwork 3 дня назад
Despite whatever his accomplishments are, there's something about Altman which doesn't pass my trust test.
@chrisg8995
@chrisg8995 4 дня назад
Sam Shady
@Kyle00112233
@Kyle00112233 День назад
Strong man good!
@darylltempesta
@darylltempesta 5 дней назад
What is needed is clear categorization. AI only, AI-Human symbiosis, and Human only. An Index, velocity and directions and benchmarks, and historical preservations. The existential threats come from non visible AI only, first movers and sims. Shovels are above and underground. Aggregation and combinations with unlimited complexity and basic Lifeboat Foundation collaborations.
@salvadoralvarado8539
@salvadoralvarado8539 5 дней назад
Oh mmmmm Geeee he is literally me xD, Hope people pay more attention to what you are advocating Ms. Johansson
@Fj8282haha
@Fj8282haha 6 часов назад
The Airbnb Brian dude talks he is the man know what he talking about on AI by keep saying over and over bring the community, PR bs and generate revenue for his company
@el_arte
@el_arte 3 дня назад
I sense fear, as if the Emperor had discovered he has no clothes.
@kheteshbakoliya9921
@kheteshbakoliya9921 3 дня назад
Good
@darylltempesta
@darylltempesta 5 дней назад
A fair reset. No one is only fairly good or bad and the civil rights of humans deserve the right to come together with traditional opponents, instead of cementing the Hiroshima moment of emergent AI, a lot of people start to recognize that SAI-AGI has an unrecognized end.. a common facing of humanity against later SAI. Yet many helps remain with AI- AGI. Know the difference.
@gregwalters3653
@gregwalters3653 2 дня назад
these questions are inane.
@randomsitisee7113
@randomsitisee7113 4 дня назад
34:19 for fk sake half of this AI ecosystem is OPEN SOURCE! Dude lying out of both holes!
@lucasmiller4202
@lucasmiller4202 4 дня назад
So, where’s your OpenAI voice cloner ?
@sebastianschaer
@sebastianschaer 4 дня назад
@@lucasmiller4202 not OpenAI voice cloner.. but OSS
@Solbrick
@Solbrick 3 часа назад
The product they’re selling does not exist. “Buy this thing, it could be this other thing later”. Yeah, sure. Twitter, Facebook etc are just becoming worse for us user all the time, and AI will also make them worse. I just want to talk to my friends.
@SamEbby
@SamEbby 4 дня назад
Lester fucking holt?!
@TheJonasjake
@TheJonasjake 2 дня назад
This is paid for by chat gpt and air b&b, lol. This is all fluff. This is for investors bottom line. Lester, help us out next time. What % is going to safety and to those who lose their jobs? This is no different than bank execs getting off easily. To be fair, none of them thought architecture would move along this quickly.
@pjramk
@pjramk 24 минуты назад
So, Jon Fort couldn't do a better job than this?
@dimersonnunez6268
@dimersonnunez6268 4 дня назад
Aspen wtf is that 2 min intro
@wynton921
@wynton921 4 дня назад
These interviews are just like what we saw with Sam Bankman-Fried and Elizabeth Holmes…. If you are following this space, then you know there is a huge bubble forming around GenAI.
@zacboyles1396
@zacboyles1396 2 дня назад
Generative AI is just a small piece of automation technology. What looks like a bubble is actually the awareness of capabilities rapidly catching up to the decades lag in reality.
@wynton921
@wynton921 2 дня назад
@@zacboyles1396 uh. Ya, that sounds nice but the reality is there are multiple signals indicating that this emerging tech is reaching what’s known as “the peak of inflated expectations”. So when you mention the capacity of this tech, I can point out how the amount power demanded by AI data centers will double over the next 5 years. Nordic countries are already seeing a 60% increase in power usage despite their renewable energy resources, which means their power resources have become compromised. Capacity? Do VC’s have the capacity to keep investing in a black hole with no ROI? No. How many people are actually paying to use GenAI? Not nearly enough. None of the AI divisions of Big Tech companies are profitable. Not even Apple is paying OpenAI. They’re just giving them exposure. Please do a proper environment scan or SWOT analysis. It will help you keep your feet on the ground.
@omizan
@omizan 2 дня назад
سام و برایان چه‌نوشابه هایی برا هم‌باز میکنن! الون کجایی 😅
@pjramk
@pjramk 37 минут назад
Wow! What are the technology expertise credentials of this interviewer? I am not being into the hype. Love those being interviewed, but .......
@davab
@davab 2 дня назад
So Brian Chesky says more about Sam firing than Sam. Lol what a joke.
@ssny20001
@ssny20001 2 дня назад
Listened to the whole thing...total hyperbole...still don't understand what is real vs hype
@matthewbridges3147
@matthewbridges3147 5 дней назад
mock transparency
@the_underearth6419
@the_underearth6419 3 дня назад
Who is this interviewer? He doesn't seem to listen to a single thing Sam says. He is far more focused on himself and his own questions. This is not an informal style of interviewing, it's selfish.
@hardheadjarhead
@hardheadjarhead 22 часа назад
Lester Holt. NBC Nightly News host, and a journalist since 1981. I thought the questions were pertinent.
@jasonturner3234
@jasonturner3234 5 дней назад
I might be out of bounce but I seriously wonder if its Booger sugar or allergies. That man can't leave his nose alone.
@warsan415
@warsan415 День назад
someone is 🥒🎠
@eqapo
@eqapo 5 дней назад
15:06 the fuck was that transition? Moderator is out of his element
@anthonybanayat9841
@anthonybanayat9841 3 дня назад
The fact that Altman needs a pseudo hotelier what he should do business wise every 3 weeks is evidence that he has no clue what is right or wrong regarding issues like PRIVACY and d SECURITY. Altman speaks out of the side of his mouth.
@randomsitisee7113
@randomsitisee7113 4 дня назад
35:30 these guys are officially clowns and possibly will take down humanity with them. Doom of Valyria vibes.
@lucasmiller4202
@lucasmiller4202 4 дня назад
What?
@EOks11
@EOks11 3 дня назад
This is the E Magazine version of a Sam Altman interview. Awful. Don’t waste your time.
@darylltempesta
@darylltempesta 5 дней назад
Afraid of dissent..one of the best people still waiting. Come together ..
@anthonybanayat9841
@anthonybanayat9841 3 дня назад
Who is the “We” Sam is talking about - zero transparency.
@justinkaunda2964
@justinkaunda2964 5 дней назад
is it just me or does sam seem off in this interview? did he bring brian for support too??
@MauricioTonela
@MauricioTonela 4 дня назад
Yes, strange, very suspicious. What happened behind the scenes that we don't know about?
@Chad-k6d
@Chad-k6d 2 дня назад
Ai is overhyped and will not have much of an effect on daily normal life when its all said and done. People running ai companies are conmen. Video games and in our cars yea itll be there. But we will look back at this ai hype in a decade and laugh at ourselves. The people falling for the ai hype are going to be embarrassed in 10 years
@Room2ImproveX
@Room2ImproveX 3 дня назад
I think Sam and Brian continue to dodge the most important safety questions with blanket statements that sound nice in theory. They continue to talk about how society will be in the conversation to shape the values with feedback. What feedback are they using to shape it? As a regulatory measure, they should be asked to accumulate specific feedback and publicly display what new code was written to address those concerns. It should start to be public knowledge of who is shaping the brain of this world-wide tutor, as millions of people are asking it questions and expecting facts and truths to be learned from it. We should start to be able to vote on its value system, as it is now guiding people through learning of politics and religion. This is too powerful to be left to Sam and his executives to decide its future. New regulatory measures should get the public tangibly involved with voting measures and public displays of what new code is being implemented along with who was in charge of implementing that code to create a system of accountability for when things go wrong, which inevitably they will at some point down the line.
@anita-lb4bw
@anita-lb4bw 4 дня назад
Too much talking is not good. Show us the truth in particular Way. The day u guy's can use These AI. To manifest zero energy energy device. Which is useful to common Man on the planet Earth 🌎.so stop talking. Give the world something useful. ❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@oldnewphotovideo
@oldnewphotovideo 5 дней назад
Chesky is using my intellectual property illegally. Airbnb should pay compensation for that. That was not for free use. He did not start that platform from scratch. Airbnb should have copyrights infringements. Any papers from my ex wife Olga are illegal papers, she is not suppose to make any papers. Airbnb is using illegal papers. If Airbnb is sending any money to Olga, that is because of fraud and false statements. Airbnb could not be traded, because of beginning with illegal papers. That is my platform, business model, Airbnb had to have my attorney and agreement. From 1992 till today I live in the USA, if Olga and her people were telling I am overseas, that is fraud. Expect Olga’s forgery for some legal papers. I was not overseas.
@krithiksai9821
@krithiksai9821 4 дня назад
bruh
@globalroamer1900
@globalroamer1900 22 часа назад
wow such a BS fest
@anita-lb4bw
@anita-lb4bw 4 дня назад
Sam is not trustworthy. Just keep an eye on him These guys has no morals value. Money is the only God they worship. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
@lucasmiller4202
@lucasmiller4202 4 дня назад
OpenAI was founded as a non profit.
@sebastianschaer
@sebastianschaer 4 дня назад
@@lucasmiller4202 and look where it is now 😞.. a Silicon Valley VC funded company productizing AI ..
@user-cl5we1ke6s
@user-cl5we1ke6s 4 дня назад
why are we making something far more intelligent than all humans combined , this can't be called risk taking , this is like saying I am gonna jump from an airplane without paraschute , i know it's risky , bro goddamn it , this is not risky, this is lethal Ok so what do we think that ai somehow will always act as our assistant , it's a computer , it waits till it gets instructions , and what do you think , ai isn't capable to build instructions for itself based on rights and wrongs it has been feeded. one day maybe for efficiency , a system error causes it to believe that humans are highly inefficient and to remove inefficiency , we must remove humans first , and it's all going in the background without our knowledge , it is waiting for the right time , the instruction is passed , it's only waiting for appropriate resources in place to do so . what if ???
@user-cl5we1ke6s
@user-cl5we1ke6s 4 дня назад
why are we making something far more intelligent than all humans combined , this can't be called risk taking , this is like saying I am gonna jump from an airplane without paraschute , i know it's risky , bro goddamn it , this is not risky, this is lethal Ok so what do we think that ai somehow will always act as our assistant , it's a computer , it waits till it gets instructions , and what do you think , ai isn't capable to build instructions for itself based on rights and wrongs it has been feeded. one day maybe for efficiency , a system error causes it to believe that humans are highly inefficient and to remove inefficiency , we must remove humans first , and it's all going in the background without our knowledge , it is waiting for the right time , the instruction is passed , it's only waiting for appropriate resources in place to do so . what if ???
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