The Disturbed Case of Austin Harrouff 

It's disturbing how often the police check with the neighbours the next day and they heard all the screaming and gunshots and shit but didn't do a damn thing.

Lady Marmalade Exactly

@@christopherhammond5142 Disturbing indeed I was Called Brown Noser for calling for Help I don't care

@@truthseekeralways7050 One of my housemates once gave me a hard time for 'getting involved' when the next door neighbour was beating the shit out of his wife. It's just such a garbage attitude to have.

@@christopherhammond5142 Good for you!

Much better than the not my problem attitude. I mind my own business but hearing a scream typically something's wrong

@@joehooker7522 should have just called the cops and he would have stayed safe and the cops would have been there sooner

The poor guy must be absolutely traumatized as well. I hope he was able to move to a new home at some point,I imagine continuing to live there would be incredibly difficult to live with.

Glad to see this hero put his safety second to help others and very glad he survived, we need about 7 billion more just like him in this world.

Jeff's hardcore but I don't believe the reports by cops for a minute lol. They've gunned down people WITH random bystanders for way less. There's no way it transpired the way they said. My guess is they got there and didn't save the guy in time so they came up with excuses. None of em got stabbed or hurt after all.

Yes its sad! He will live with it for the rest of his life. His parents betrayed him 😢

@@elainewat2607 im not sure what "demons" your talking about. But if you think he is posessed of a demon rather than suffer from a desiece maybe you should go back to school. To go back to the matter, the mother called the cops when he for the third time disaperd from the restaurant. Both her and the father had multiple chances to take him to hospital before then.

Why are you using so many commas 😂😂

Some parents just can't deal with the reality of a mentally unwell child. They become unwell adults. Then they get...eaten.

I’d like to give them both a kick up the backside and hold them both accountable to a degree for just not taking enough interest in what was happening with their son.

@@TheDramacist The two who got eaten weren't his parents my dude

@@turnermd1302 I'm well aware, thanks. I was trying to stay on theme.

I hope the victim's family goes after them in a civil court. They enabled this and now that POS father wants to "pull something off" to get him out? SUE THEM.

After trying to help even better

But he was stabbed 17 times and nearly gutted, he nearly lost his own life, he didn't/couldn't stop the murders, he should have just stayed home and called the cops, instead of wading into the massacre 😕

@@NannupTiger yeah I'm not sure it was a good thing in this case. In fact it's a prime example of why people usually mind their own business. The guy was brave for sure but I wouldn't judge him for staying away from a crazed person wielding a knife and eating people's faces. Glad he's okay but no doubt he'll be haunted by that day for the rest of his life.

People could witness an execution and my neighborhood and they still wouldn't get involved by calling the police

Exactly my thought!

Professionals aren't professional. If they were, you wouldn't see these problems. It's like cancer and heart disease. Professionals could cut the death rate from those illnesses by 90%. That's why they need the government service of keeping real professionals out of the profession.

Amen! They failed him.

You not gonna acknowledge that he did HEAVY drugs all throughout his life? Nah that definitely has absolutely nothing to do with his mental illness, only his family

My brother suffers from delusions and is schizophrenic. Sadly the healthcare system can not help anyone unless they are willing or commit a horrible crime. I live with this brother and it's terrifying because he doesn't want help. My mother doesn't care and neither does the healthcare

That’s Florida people’s mental health awareness for ya

He was a jackass had all kinds of money, he needs to rot in prison....

@@Ford17x He was, and is, insane. He is clearly a victim himself. I feel sorry for you if you don't have intellectual capacity to understand that distinction. If so, i guees you're a victim yourself.

@@catcherinthesky4106 that's not a excuse, Hitler was insane, I guess he's a victim by your thinking...

@@catcherinthesky4106calm down bro your autism is showing 😂😂😂

@@catcherinthesky4106your clearly a victim of being stuck up your own ass 😂😂😂

Right?! The dad saying “I plan on it…soon…” about getting him a therapist was RIDICULOUS.

100% this is why it got to this point. I have a feeling they've been ignoring his cries for help his whole life sadly.

It's infuriating!!! You could hear the fear in his voice. Hopefully the system steps in and gives him the care he needs ...

A lot of parents refuse to get help for their kids because they’re afraid of being judged or shamed, it’s pretty pathetic. America needs to talk about mental health and take it much more seriously, our citizens are very sick.

@@lily.218 yes, I felt so sad hearing him talk. Seeing him cry when talking to Dr Phil, he is truly destroyed by what's happened. We don't see that a lot in these videos. I have so much sympathy for the people he killed and their families but this time I feel it for him too. It's rare these get me like that.

exactly what i was thinking. especially with the drugs he did. (not saying it was his fault, but drugs like those definitely can push someone into a psychotic break like that)

Sad that it was textbook and still no one stopped this preventable tragedy

very sad , alot of times its hard to get them help too, its all very short term, cant be forced to take meds etc.. in and out of jail, in hosp for a day or two then back on the streets..... rinse , repeat.

was thinking the same thing. my sister had her first manic episode a couple of months into her freshman year of college due to stress-no doubt the drugs this guy was taking contributed to the onset of an episode.

That was just what I was thinking. People need to be more aware of things that can go wrong with the human mind. Sounds like people were ignoring his symptoms. A fucking shame

Agreed. Utterly tragic

Finally i see a comment saying what i was thinking during the whole victim impact statements!!! The victims family spat so much vitriol and hate and treated Austin like he was literally Ted Bundy. I completely understand the anger from the victims families, but they were so tactless and you could tell they give zero fucks about mental illness. From day 1 the victims family denied he was mentally ill, so before a professional evaluated him, and then refused to accept any evidence to the contrary. When the one sister was reading all of his texts, the majority were about drinking, using stimulants (very common study drugs at all colleges) and marijuana, which isnt great but not abnormal for kids that age. I was so annoyed becuse it didnt show an evil person at all, it showed someone losing their grip and desperately trying to cope with substances. They equate partying with murder, demonize addiction and paint people who drink in college as bad people. The vast majority of severly mentally ill people at some point turn to substances to self-medicate. The family lost my respect when they tried to convince a mentally ill man to off himself (among so many other ignorant, hateful comments). And when they equated a struggling, mentally ill kid (im talking about before the murder) with an evil monster and saying some text messages are enough for the death penatly. I understand the anger the families feel but they took it way too far. Those cops who responded that night are probably so traumatized and the family is calling them cowards for not murdering him on the spot?! Evil thing to say. Also, dont even get me started on the prosceutor after the trial saying he wants to change the insanity law so “psychologists (said with distain) shouldnt be given the key to the jail”. I thought we evolved past the time where “shrinks” were scary and psychology wasnt real. Psychologists have no clue what they are doing, but dont worry some butthurt prosecutor is the one who will solve mental illness once and for all!😂 lets go back to locking them all up right? Awesome display of ignorance from him. (Okay im done now, ive been obsessed/hyperfocused on this case for 2 days and had to let my thoughts out)

Just learning about this case tonight & I 100% agree with you.

I can’t imagine the absolute terror and isolation he would have felt while experiencing his first complete disconnect from reality in an environment that severely underplayed and enabled the escalation into acute psychosis which otherwise has a relatively positive prognosis with early intervention - all of which are a quick google search away. Even Austin mid prodromal psychosis tried a google search or two

@@mollydebright?? It felt fairly tone deaf. Of course, they have every right to grieve and express their hurt, I feel disappointed with the “drug-induced, selfish, irresponsible frat boy” narrative. Many college students experiment with recreational drugs - most don’t develop an acute psychotic break (especially considering Austin seemed relatively conservative on the spectrum of recreational drug experimentation). Even if his drug use did precipitate an underlying pathological disposition to schizophrenia or bipolar disorder with psychotic features, I still believe he deserves the same treatment irrespective of the cause. It may appear that mental health symptoms sprung from the drug use, but what actually might be occurring is that untreated symptoms of an underlying mental health condition were exacerbated by the substance misuse but not caused by it.

. His parents really dropped the ball. With everything that happened with his Dad that day; I would have had him forcefully put in psychiatric care for 72 hours ; if he wasn’t losing his mind , sure he would be mad ; but he wouldn’t be facing murder charges either. I suppose I shouldn’t judge his parents , I wasn’t there. And I’m quite sure they see their errors in hindsight, and are heart broken . My heart honestly goes out to this kid, he was really suffering . He must not have talked much to his parents , should we be wondering why his own friends, and girlfriend didn’t contact his parents or authorities ? Could he have just really gone over the edge from lack of sleep , like in fight club ? So sad , he doesn’t belong in prison but I would think places for the criminally insane could be worse. Could he lead a normal life with proper treatment ? Mike is right , he was a victim as well, they were all victims, of severe mental illness. And there can’t be justice in this case , not as we think of it. He did not go out with intent to harm. Prayers for proper treatment and recovery for him. Prayers to the victims family as well, just tragic all around.

Exactly. And there lies the problem or the consequence of bad parenting

I had to get help after I moved out for college. My family just didnt care or understand. Now years later I still have my mom calling my meds my "crazy pills" :) You can literally only just hope and pray that someone helps you while you feel your own sanity slipping away lol

@@primesspct2 I'll guarantee hid father wasn't thinking that Austin would be eating somebodies face that night. I think they sound caring, but didn't know what to do. Also, Austin appeared unpredictable, trashing the garage and car one second making normal sounding videos a day or two before. He's at the age where schizophrenia kicks in, so he would of been mostly normal all his life and then suddenly fuses start to blow, you could see Austin himself was confused, 'am I going crazy', all in all a horrible situation for absolutely everybody involved, the victims, Austin, his family. You never hear of something like this happening, nobody saw it coming.

That part hurt my heart

Yeah I know what you mean. Mine waited until I left the house to pull up all my plants. I forgot my phone came around the corner and caught him. Mad eejit.

Lololol!!! Yeah I know the feelin!

Fitness?…lolol,skinny little punk

time to move, those arent good neighbors.

@@littlemisseatscrispsforbre5353 wtf, was he stealing them?? Or was he just not a fan of your plants? But either way, wtf.

He was committed to a max security hospital indefinitely.

It can be years to get them diagnosed.

Something the dad strikes me as a man that maybe promoted this alpha like behaviour

Even if his parents new he was %100 bat s crazy there isn't much they could do for him. The laws are set up in the United States where you have the right to be crazy. You cannot force someone to take their medication or commit them unless they hurt someone or themselves. The laws really are screwed up here.

@@deerick3109 So true.

You can't just ignore kids period healthy or not. Even if you're divorcing or losing your job, your kid uses you to calibrate themselves and if you ignore them then they're reading the input of the world at large a little more off with each hit they take.

@@jimmym3352 I mean I smoke it and I'm not a loser... I think your personal experiences with your dad created a negative bias toward the drug.

@@ronniewhitedx YOU dont think you're a loser but thats not saying much. JS I bet many people do. Now back to your playstation controller....

@@jimmym3352 You think drinking is OK?

I have bipolar which I left untreated for 15 yrs. I know work with folks with mental illness- inpatient and out- and I've yet to meet anyone with homicidal tendencies or a violent nature anywhere near this degree. During my manic episodes I achieved a 'god complex' delusion in more than one occasion but was always able to ground myself. It wasn't until I started using meth and other heavy drugs that I started to lose control of myself. While I believe Austin had developed a mental illness, unbeknownst it unrecognized by those close to him, I don't believe mental illness alone is the cause of this tragedy. His drug use almost certainty contributed to the exacerbation of his symptoms. Almost every case of drug or alcohol misuse I've been witness to is accompanied by a co-occuring mental disorder. We need to continue to educate future generations about mental illness and cast away misconceptions and stigma towards them. People like us can experience reality differently than most others but, that does not make us inherently violent. However when we make bad decisions and don't treat ourselves or begin using drugs, it gets very hard to use rationale and logic. To anyone who badmouths someone with mental illness, on the comments section or otherwise, consider the fact that your reality is subjective but that doesn't mean you can't harm another's through your words or actions. Think about what you would say to someone if you were standing face-to-face with them.

@@ronniewhitedx every individual is different. If it works for you and you feel healthy and safe, power to you. Thanks for taking care

Yep

he prolly was withdrawling too

The parents have lied about the kid for ages. Even back in high schools teachers were telling them that something was wrong with him.

Hope he rots in prison.

@@lilbean5955 he was actually substance free for some time prior to this nightmare. Undiagnosed and untreated Schizophrenia. He was psychotic and hallucinating for days leading up to that evening. I understand those that are angry with him, but mental illness, and not Austin himself is to blame.

Yes. At least he really wants help 💔

I agree. His tone sounded helpless and lost.

It's a shame he didn't get psychiatric help sooner.

Yea, I feel he's been let down all along the way. It's just tragic across the board.

Not only that, but how his Dad kind of shrugged it off and said he was "working on it" before asking if Austin called his mom. His grasp on reality was spinning out of control but it seems like those closest to him didn't want to acknowledge it.

Mr ballen covered this story with a deeper look at how truly badly his folks failed him . Ex. His folks locked their bedroom door while austin hourly protected their house from demons ; as opposed to ..ummm this may be a sign that your sons glue is coming undone . That chapter is still my fav though.!

Looked like bad acting to me

@@buckshort9282 cause he cry differently than you? Ok

@@buckshort9282 Exactly. In between feeling REALLY remorseful I always make time to fit in a Dr. Phil interview, too.

@@darkhorse7460 Just make sure to eat someones face, that will get you an interview.. I am sure that was the while reason the kid did it, to get on tv, and pretend to cry. Unless ofc, you are too busy being in jail or prison, to find any spare time, Ive heard that it it really is a 24/7 kinda thing that..

Imagine when he came out of the phycosis to realise what he had actually done

How is saying "I plan to" brushing him off

@@capealio right? The snap, absolute judgements that get thrown around based on such limited info is wild.

@@ydaani It's not wild, it's the RU-vid comments section! Expecting people to behave anyother way...now that's wild!

My daughter had very weird episode at 18 I had no choice but to have her committed, thankfully she made a full recovery. Though wouldn’t talk to me for a year. Now years later we’re really close, she has much more understanding of what happened. Why is father saying he’s gonna get a therapist???? Maybe if he’d done that months ago, maybe this need not have happened???

@@capealio Because he should have done something about it long before it got this bad!!!

It sounded a bit like mania too. Poor kid.

reminds me of the MyPillow guy

@Grace Asher MyPillow guy during his crack phase was bad to the bone

It sounds more like bipolar 1 to me. I'm bipolar and he was exhibiting every symptom of a manic episode.

@@byreasonofinsanity3759 Was the first thing I thought of too. I'm bipolar 2, but a friend is 1 and she had an episode I never forget. In a delusional paranoia, she called the police and thought she had detected someone planting bombs on the cars in the street, and it was the end of the world. She was so frustrated when nobody else seemed to be as worried as her. She was 5150 that day and is now on Lamictal, the same as me. I don't wish this on anyone. It can be and has been a crippling illness.

Exactly! The ages of 19-23 are critical.

Not everyone is aware of the potential age for schizophrenia to kick in. I worked with some schizophrenics years ago. Twin men who had been engineers graduated from MIT. Thy were twins. Horrible disease!

Honestly a lot of people diagnosed with Schizophrenia can lead fairly normal, functional lives, with the right treatment, and in that sense, not be particularly hard to support at all, though I do know what you're saying - it isn't always that way depending on the course/severity of the disease and the treatment. That's what makes this particularly sad, though: if he'd gotten treatment before his _clear_ psychotic break turned horrifically violent, he could've had a decent, normal life.

@@JET7C0 sad but true. oh well.

not to stereotype but wealthy kids and schizonphrenics/psycopaths can be hard to tell apart. especially when surrounded with eachoter.

Yes!! Jeff is the hero of this case. 🙏🏼❤️

Yeah, but.. you realize mental facilities are far far worse then prisons. For a guy so close to normal functioning mentality like him, itll be hell..

Both doctors said he was insane at the time of the crime. His insanity defense was successful.

we don't do that anymore since they got rid of asylum my gf works at a prison most are mentally challenged alot are mentally ill..it's disgusting how the system deals w them

Mental facilities can be worse than prison tbh.

yeah fun fact, mental facilities are prisons. dont kid yourself. we do a great job these days putting a bow on mental health care, but the whole system is as archaic, savage, and ineffective as ever. we think we're so "advanced" with our medical world... lmfao. we're not. at all. we're children poking at things we don't understand and mostly making things worse.

It would prob have tarnished his dad's imagine. When I was young and in trouble all the time my mom would say "what will the neighbors think"? Idgaf what the neighbors thought. If she had bothered to care she might have found out my stepfather had been molesting me since I was 9 months old til I was a teenager. When I was in my 20s and they divorced I told her. She asked him and he admitted it, saying it started at 9 mos, that's how I know. What did she do? She remarried him. Fml

@@despicabledavidshort3806 That's.. unthinkable! How awful. I'm sitting here trying to think of what I can say to add comfort to my statement, but really there is none.. I hope you've found peace 💖

I don't think his parents are as bad as people think, they just didn't understand from what it seems. I think the guy needed to ask for help and understand himself that he wasn't about to be shamed by the people who mattered if he was to get help.

Yeah, a good old fashioned stoning..

I think Vladimir Frostikov was the real turning point

I totally agree!! when complete changes in their personality starts happening at least have them talk to a mental health professional to be safe. Sadly seems like the parents failed him for not getting any kind of help :(

Hahahahahaahhahahahahahaha

LMAOOOO… I hate myself for laughing at this 😂😂😩

You failed him and ran, you are not a good human being.

I am also a widow of bipolar disorder with mixed manic episodes. I divorced in 2004. Four years later he had passed on; not sure if overdose was purposeful or not I am so very sorry to hear about your troubles. Just wanted to let you know you are not alone. No one deserves this miserable illness. It can turn extraordinary people into monsters.

Yes but eating peoples faces is not generally a symptom of bi polar.

@willissudweeks1050 It's been also said that he is schizophrenic Besides even if he didn't have drugs trace in his blood but the damage was already done by drugs, alcohol and psychedelics Ppl with bipolar have like sensitive and disordered neurotransmitters

I hope he found peace In case you noticed any minor symptoms on your daughters I suggest Valerian Roots It's natural and helped me a lot and it differ from brand to another or when it's pure natural tea I have bipolar type 2 I wish you peace love compassion and prosperity 🌻

That made me so angry to hear that!

@@CoraJean19 same!

No I just think he doesn't know about time

Ok in fairness we don't know for sure. But you might be right.

I'm betting based on his texts to his gf and his desperate google search history he's said something to multiple people multiple times

I think the same. Someone had to notice he wasn't right. But nobody did a thing. I have had 2 friends who suffered from paranoid schizophrenia and there are a whole lot of signs that they should have seen. His videos omg red flags all over them. How could nobody, not one person say something?

he showed EVERY sign .. did you not watch the video ?? your son tells you he believes he is a God & numerous other entities AND using drugs. also they DEFINITELY knew how mad it was because how did they get the Xanax that the dad gave him?

He was definitely ignored

Unfortunately many many families do.

Mental illness is still badly stigmatized. Trouble is, most people are ignorant about mental illness, and they feel deep shame if anyone in their family has even a mild mental illness. In a lot of families, you don't even talk about the subject. That led to me not knowing one of my aunts existed, until I was a teenager. Even then, they claimed she'd had whooping cough, and that's why she was that way. Like the truth wasn't in her face.

I never thought I would feel bad for that Kid in a million years . After deep thought I do but not enough not pursue Life in Prison

I feel bad for the family of the victims, and I can _100%_ understand their anger, but given the evidence, this is seriously one of the clearest cut cases of not guilty by reason of insanity I've ever seen. My sympathy lies equally with the victims and Austin, knowing how psychosis, and especially first time psychotic breaks work on a neurological level. If anyone in the victim's families could experience what a psychotic break is like, I think their judgments about Austin would crumble pretty quickly.

@@JET7C0 Well said, and I agree completely

@@JET7C0 Would you feel the same way if it was your Mom and Dad?

@@JET7C0 I totally agree with you, i'm bipolar too and i had a psychosis, i can say as a fact from my own experience that during pyschosis you have zero control over your actions and toughts, lucky for me my parents realized the same day and took me to a mental hospital (that's when i got diagnosted), psychosis is horrible.

Facts!

Facts? How would you know? Watching a video on yt doesn't mean you know everything about a person.

Eeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Wow!!!

@@Ladund pipe down Chochi what is it your period this week ? Some of us like to keep our minds positive you know. And if you actually understood it, you'd realize it was merely a suggestion. And someone confirmed it by saying facts. Don't be so critical!

Facts

I commented on last Friday's vid that I loved his dad jokes and he deleted my comment! 😬😂🤷🏻‍♀️

I love Mike.

@@verukasault9065 sometimes RU-vid deletes comments or moves them to a spam section for the uploader to accept, maybe that was what happened? 🤷‍♀️ Mike seems like he can take a joke but who knows lol

That's like saying "I remember it like something I'll never forget"

Denial is a hell of a drug in and of itself.

Mental illness was something nobody even wanted to talk about until recently. A lot of people got a lot of catching up to do.

In my day, and this is no joke, his behavior prior to the attack would have earned him anywhere from a lobotomy to electroshock therapy ! But we are more "civilized and understanding" now, which may or may not be a good thing. My worst fear of dying used to start "being eaten by wild animals whilst still cognizant. Think I might have to upgrade that now !!

I totally agree. A clear case of mom and dad not paying attention and FACEING that their son had mental problems!!

The dad offered him xanax, so he knew.

Yeah right? Teasing him? That says a lot about the mLfunction of getting their son help... :(

I had the same reaction. That was such an ignorant thing for her to say.

Nothing more than a spoiled junkie

I have a paranoid schizophrenic sibling who also has Dissociative Identity Disorder- ya.... sometimes scary, because they are an adult we’ve not had access to the full truth about her conditions and couldn’t get anyone to take us seriously during her youth. The couple killed like such nice people. God Bless that neighbor.

And how the dad immediately changed the subject when he asked his dad to hurry with finding a therapist… obviously mental health isn’t taken seriously in his family. Oh and how the dad wouldn’t give him the car keys unless he took a Xanax? 1. Not even his script. 2. Extremely dangerous driving on benzos..

Amen!!!

Last two or three neighbors haven’t. Mile had me worried

I know! Pleasant surprise there.

EXACTLY!!

Seriously, circle the date!

He was alright.

So true...Dr. Phil Sucks

I agree i hate that about Dr Phil, why can't he do it without broadcasting this kid to the world, he exploits people whenever he can and as much as he can. I would maybe have some respect for Dr Phil if he helped this kid with out filming a tv show about him but we all know that would never happen, he just uses people for views and to make big money while the kid keeps suffering. There have been a lot of complaint's and even law suits against dr Phil for bringing people on his show saying he will help them and after the episode is done filming he completely ignored the person and didn't get them any help like he promised. I sometimes wonder how the hell does he keep getting away with exploiting people for so many years, his show should have been cancelled years ago for exploitation but instead it just gets more popular.

He really is an ahole

Very well said, and we wonder why there is such a stigma around mental health when he portrays poor people like Austin

Dr. Phil is literally the worst

Yes. It's so sad. He's asking for a therapist ffs 😢

And he still seems to be failing to act. I had the same reaction to that call. Dad seems to be a giant piece of shite himself.

What call? Timestamp?

well 3 lives lost really

Yeah, but would you be that neighbour that has the same courage Jeff had? It nearly cost him his life. That's probably why women mostly send their men when they hear disturbing noises. ;-)

@@moserfugger6363 shut up 😂 🤡

@@moserfugger6363 yeah not like men are typically larger and stronger than women or anything, no way

@@therealaintain So feminists are lying?

@@ThisIsSparta300 Nope. You as a 12 year old should accept that. 😇

So true. 😔

I hear ya! Stupid bipolar but I take meds!

I wondered about the meds thing too. Did Dad say take a Xanax as in chill out. Or take YOUR Xanax?

Kind of unfair to the 2 ppl he killed too.

@@yakacm That goes without saying obviously, but the whole horrible episode could have been avoided if his parents had got him the medication he obviously needed. They knew...but did nothing

You do realize Austin was in jail when this phone call took place, right? The comments for this video are unbelievable.

@@joachimvonribbentrop1956 What does that have to do with anything?

@@tari8134 it means that they are paying quite a bit for the phone call and the call itself was cut. It isn’t their full conversation

His dad didn’t immediately change the subject he said that he’s working on getting one and then their conversation was either cut to a different point.

@@evanmcc99 It was so obvious to me, and most others, that his dad had NOT been thinking about, or working on getting him one because of the pause before answering and his tone of voice when he did answer him. Idk how you and a couple of other people could've missed that. If you go back and listen again with all this in mind, I wonder if you'd change your mind about it.

They only called to cover their liability.

@@secondact7151 They have no liability regardless.

@@rapa2894 they most certainly could face liability if sued by the victims family for their negligence and apparently providing their son with psych meds that weren't prescribed to him not to mention their continued negligence to get him psychological help despite his many episodes and requests for help.

This is why we need parental licensing

@@lasmujeresnotienenpollAs aka eugenecis? who maeks the license?

Exactly, I work in mental health and psychotic disorders developing around that age are very common. It's tragic because someone is at the beginning of their adult life with so much to look forward to and they develop such a catastrophic disorder .

This.

It's nothing like other organs, since the problem can't be detected by looking at the organ. There's also no blood test for psychotic episodes.

yes, first episodes are usually more violent too.

he had a poly-drug use history; in many psychotic episodes, drug use is a contributing factor

Same here brother. Would be something terrible to come to after a fugue state and find out you did that shit. Hes never gonna forgive himself.

Agreed. This case was very unusual in that I felt a great sadness for this young man.

I can't imagine the mental torment.

Well....the other issue is that he was a full adult, I highly doubt there weren't people around him mentioning things. If he himself didn't see, or feel that something was wrong with the episodes, he wouldn't have gotten help. It's very possible that he had never been violent at all, so they may have figured he was doing the college kid thing & maybe was on something. I haven't watched the full video yet, but if it was only the first few episodes, I can see them thinking it might be drugs. Still sad though, being in the position of not knowing what to do, or handle the situation to figure out what is going on I imagine would be tough too. If it'd been going on for years it'd be a completely different story

@Nash78 I thought that. 😤 This has been going on for a long time. They should of sorted one long before now. You can tell his mentally unwell. I feel bad for him.

A lot of people _are_ bullshitting. If it's really something caused by mental health, those people usually _don't_ blame mental health because they tend to be too messed up in the head to figure that much out. Most people just use it as an excuse or for attention (just look at Twitter, for example), which is a shame because it diminishes the real cases such as this one.

I'm proof. I've almost snapped a couple of times and fighting the fights within my mind was tough and well afterwards I'd be mentally exhausted. I didn't have voices in my head it was just this thought there that told me to do bad shit. Horrible shit. I've never done it of course, but I did try to isolate myself which wasn't a good idea. It was so hard to deal with this, but I had a family I had everything and didn't want to lose it all or have others lose a family member because of me. It's fucking harsh.

Glad you’re not blind to the reality and truth of it all.

I felt the same way at one point, hit eventually I realized it was projection on my part because I was so harsh with myself for having mental health issues and blamed myself for having a medical issue and it influenced how I perceived others and how they should be treated. I don't use my diagnosis as an excuse, but I also try my best not to tear into myself over it either and have empathy for others and their struggles too. It's a hard thing when society stigmatizes mental health so much. Hope you're doing well. Be kind to yourself.

Most people who are actually mentally ill won’t be claiming an insanity defense of their own free will because they don’t believe there is anything wrong with them. The guy I more like this thinks everyone is lying to him and that we can really see the delusions that he’s seeing. Thinks the government threatened us into pretending so he’d feel crazy. It’s insane. Poor guy.

He definitely needed mental help as soon as they saw him having up and down mood swings as a kid. Even the way his mom spoke to the 911 dispatch. Very lackadaisical. Not judging but you can just see they sort of downplayed his issues.

same here, its so obvious that he desperately needed help but no one seemed to care

The way the dad cut him off and didn't listen to him pleading for mental help is rough. This whole thing is so utterly awful.

I agree he should of had care much sooner. But, I don’t think his parents didn’t care for him. Most people do not recognize the signs of mental illness. Probably, early on his behaviors were written off as typical teenage moodiness. Perhaps, there needs to be a world wide campaign to teach the general public about mental illness and its warning signs. That would most likely help tremendously.

@@LuvsTruth parents should also be responsible. This is your child and if you can't see what is going on with him and you don't get him the care he needs and he goes and does something horrible like this, accountability.

Yeah, I felt bad for him as well. It’s hard to fathom how he wasn’t immediately given psychological treatment... for the safety of those around him, if nothing else.

EXACTLY. Like why is he "PLANNING" on it?? 1. Get an attorney✔️ 2. get a psychiatrist ✔️

Same here. I got the feeling his parents knew that he needed psychological help but chose to ignore it.

Right!? I remember ending up in jail once...called my mom and asked if she would call the drug rehab facility I was on a wait list for. She said"sure, I'll give them a call next week" . I was supposed to call daily to keep my place on the wait list.... I had to learn the hard way that nobody cares a few times......but this is even more heart breaking... when he asked if his family was scared 😢 you could tell HE was scared.truly....i really hope he gets some help, and a proper diagnosis so he gets the correct treatment!

I agree, the saddest true crime case I have heard in a long time. Hearing that childlike voice asking his dad "Am I going to be okay?" just finished me. That kid was obsessed with his physical health and no one was paying any attention to his mental deterioration. So wrong.

He gave a perfect description of it- "A living nightmare" :(

Nobody ever wins in murder cases

@@buffoonustroglodytus4688 Tell that to Casey Anthony and OJ.

This is the first time I’ve ever watched and felt sorry for the offender as well as the victims. His voice in the call to his dad….

NOBODY AT ALL FUCKING WINS.

@@AugustAPC I mean technically OJ went bankrupt and then tried to steal some of his merchandise back from a store. so

Yes! I noticed that. Major denial going on there. It's like the dad didn't even hear him. 'So, have you talked to your mother?' WTF?! Everyone failed this kid.

Totally brushed off.

He is in jail awaiting trial. His dad cannot do anything for him at this point regarding therapists. It's probably not good to tell your mentally unstable kid that you cannot do anything for him cause he's in jail and he is never getting out. You just try to be positive. They can hope he gets found guilty but criminally insane which would mean he would be sent to a high security mental institution. But that's actually worse than prison for those with out illness and he probably would never get released from that place either. They also know all calls are recorded and anything said in the call can be used against you at trial. So best not to say anything accept to your lawyer. Only your lawyer can talk privately with you.

Right? Bat boop crazy! Kid just full psycho and dad's like:"Planning on it?" What else needs to happen, before you stop planning and start some doing?

@@jmpet7134 I agree with the defense side of things but the son needs someone in the interim.

Far from the first one. That Uber killer dude was nuts as hell.

I think most people in his videos are crazy in some degree, the biggest difference here is that, I believe, he really didn't know what he was doing.

I know what you mean, man...

His crying broke my heart 😢

Not at all the first, but one of the most brutal.

There was a recent JCS video covering the topic you described where normal people feign being mentally ill in the hope they can get a reduced sentence. Well worth a watch

Yeah this dude was legit at the peak of a crazy manic episode.

@@Jabarri74 Nah this guy was legit losing his sanity.

@@SilvesterBathroomStallone They didn't say anything about this case. They were recommending "JCS - Criminal Psychology" because the OP mentioned something that relates to their most recent video.

@@eldenfindley186 Not mania, psychosis. If you're going to talk about something, maybe look into it a bit.

either way, please dont let this kid out. Being that stupid is dangerous to society. Obviously.

@bodd boward His dad is pretty sure they can "pull one off"

@@Scorch428 The kid isn't stupid. He just NEEDS to be on medication for the rest of his life.

The drugs did not help him either

He was definitely on gear too. Probably tren.

What were the parents supposed to do?!

Its a difficult issue. We used to lock people away for merely acting weird. They lost all civil rights. People fought for their freedom Now they gave the freedom and some don't take medication they need. I think a solution is beyond our grasp.

@@scottishgirl2226 if you think your son or daughter or any relative is mentally you should definitely get them help. If you live in the United States a 5150 hold will do the trick even against their will.

@@michaelwhite9915 Wrong. The biggest issue is that police don't take mental health check calls seriously, most of the time they either shoot the mentally ill person or just let them walk away after a conversation. The second issue is that the majority of mental health facilities were closed in the 80s which makes getting into one difficult as they are often full. And that's if you can afford it in the first place. State run facilities are almost always at 95% or higher capacity. Long story short, republicans and untrained, uncompassionate, uneducated officers are really to blame and that's the simple truth. I'm a nurse in a psychiatric facility, with almost 15 years experience, so I don't want to hear any BS or excuses because I know these are the facts of the matter.

@@mariagalluzzi69 If you can get one, it's small miracle.

Fact.

Actual cannibal Shia LaBeouf

Agreed 100% This poor dude is crazy; Shia is a massive tool. but he would be a perfect "Austin "

@@darkmaiden1776 why is shia a massive tool?!?

Both are 🦇💩 cray cray

Methamphetamine / Adderall probably didn’t help much either….

Broke down while apologizing? Lol, he wasn't even sligthly convinsing. Fake

Skyll that seemed like weeping to me. I literally sound just like that when I sob.

@@TroenderTass so he faked it all well enough to fool two psychologicists, one of which was trying to prove he was faking it?

It's very sad. I believe he was not in control of his actions, had asked for help. Believe what you will, this person was not in control.

His "sorrow" is a coached act on the part of his father, who was standing just out of camera range.