The Disturbing Secrets of the Battle of Coruscant 

That would imply that he already had full control. But I see what you mean.

@@WonkelDee He had enough control that could orchestrate this whole war. There is a reason that Palpatine only got involved when Darth Maul showed up.

Which means that the Empire Era was him finding an opponent to play against 😆

It's more like the first check than checkmate.

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Trench, Nemoidians, Trade Guilt people as well. They commited planet-wide genocides and cleansings for their industrial needs. When Dooku was killed and Serenno, Raxus among other worlds were taken, Palpatine could pretend that he uncovered all these horrible warcrimes and excuse the brutal supression of Separatist Worlds since they were genociders/terrorists and not a legitimate faction.

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@@soosyamongusmansus5137 General Kenobi! You are a bold one!

Well “goodness gracious great balls of fire” that would be awesome lol 😆

I’d like to see one of the Battle of Naboo. Call it Top Gungan. No don’t boo me, I’ll just boo myself.

@Shane Howard Will they find earth?

That would be killer!

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The CIS were no slouches. The battle droids may have been throwaway units, but you can't deny that the Separatists were extremely dangerous. I mean, they were still a big threat after the Clone Wars. Gizor Dellso sent his lava-hot regards!

At least one video pointed out that the CIS was actually winning in the long term, a key part of Sidious plan was keeping the two sides balanced and in continued conflict, but he could only hand the Republic so many victories for so long because the CIS had the advantage in an attritional war with their battle droids, whereas the Republic had to wait for new batches of clones to be produced which even being of higher quality than a battle droid still suffered from being outnumbered a fact that was going to catch up with them soon most likely...and why Sidious made his move to wrap it up before the proxy conflict became too untenable for even him to manage.

@@benjaminbierley2074 Speaking speculatively, you never know what kind of tricks the Kaminoans or any other producer for the Republic may have come up with if given the time. Say that there's a breakthrough in the armour the clones are supplied with. Suddenly the GAR to DA ratio isn't 10:1, its now 30:1. Droids may be cheaper/quicker to produce, but so long as you're losing them faster than you can make them...

@@olegsbalaclava1051 The Republic could also have used normal soldiers, they did that in Legends

Nice.

I mean I wouldn't put it push past star wars, with both Legends and Canon abusing cloning as a plot element. Though I suppose that cloning is really cool and I do miss it as a tech in star wars.

That's definitely Dooku's favorite option, hands down.

Naboo would kind of be an ironic place for Dooku to hide/retire.

@@westrim hands down. Ha ha ha ha omg that's great

Yeah - it added a lot to the lore of the “Star Wars” universe. Then along came Disney and they just fucked it all to hell...

@@FrankCastle-tq9bz I used to think it was a director’s thing, but yeah these movies were really rushed and milked dry, it makes me genuinely upset. Not that there aren’t some good things in the spin offs but I hate to be reminded the sequel trilogy exists

@@thomaslecomte1570 It doesn’t - as far as both myself and Mr. Lucas are concerned, what Disney makes is “Star Wars” in name only.

so the Disturbing Secrets of the Battle of Coruscant is vite ramen?

@@HiItsSalty I dunno about the implications of this... :< -Tim

@@ViteRamen sorry man, once you get to know me better, you will know im not TIMid to express things , especially if i get salty at video games. :)

I see it only as orbital view of Coruscant.

@@chefdean7257 It could very have been corrected.

Gerrys game

I'm sure your resolve has never been stronger

The whole book was really good. Everything Stover wrote for Star Wars was top tier.

Matthew Stover has to start screenwriting, if he already hasn't.

@@jakubrejak1114 Okay, I know the track record of such projects is checkered, at best, but hear me out; RoTS remake, using the full OG cast (while we still have them), that's basically the Snyder cut, using the novelization as the "script"

@@cptTK421 That would have been AWESOME!

@@jakubrejak1114 labirinth of evil is other masterpierce

I always imagined it happening over a few months, it makes more sense for most things tbh

It wasn't her entire pregnancy. You can tell that because of her large womb. Anakin and Padme hadn't seen each other in months.

RotS takes place towards the end of her pregnancy.

The twins are not anakins.

@@hectorsanchez1377 That completely ignores everything saying they are

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@@comradekenobi6908 RU-vid keeps deleting the link, so just search "LoGH The Nature of War"

@@harrisonlee9585 well that's mean, fricking RU-vid bots

He ever knew

Or that time Thrawn attacked. Sorry in advance for bring him up Zaarin.

@@eds1942 No worries, I too would like to see that covered, even if the wrong chap won.

I thought Eck already did a video about that? But I could be wrong. But he has done a lot of videos of the Second Galactic Civil War.

Doesn’t she die like thirty times in deleted scenes? Btw sick SW animation u did

Wait, Grievious also killed Shaak-Ti, bruh, how many times this woman died? And I'm serious, lol

@@felps_4500 her canon death is by Anakin at the Jedi Temple during Order 66.

@@Astro_Mickey Yeah, I know that, what I'm asking is how many times she died in SW history Like there's Anakin at the Temple, Grevious, the one in The Force Unleashed, and that's just the ones I can remember

@@felps_4500 gotcha, well I think you mention all of them. George Lucas really didn’t know where/how to kill her for awhile lol

Episode 3 would still have the better battle because...VENATORS! 🤤🤤

@@jonnyrankin993 don’t worry, the battle is still better for what it is.

And having some Luke action & changing TLJ with better character handling & having a better Sequel Trilogy.

Coruscant needed to be in the movies more. It's an essential location.

Imagine if Hux betrayed Kylo Darth Malak-style during that battle.

Spacedock: There NEEDS to be politics in Star Wars!

@@UGNAvalon Well that's half-right. The political aspect can be used to build an interesting world if done well. Just from a few references to agreements, laws or systems of governance (provided they are not contradicted later on) we can get the sense of a truly expansive universe.

>mfw George Lucas literally based the Empire off of the Nazis and the Ewoks off of the Vietcong

@@violetroseinthedark3071 Something he didn't make explicit however. Unlike today's political movies, Lucas made the Empire feel like the nazis, but didn't make understanding that explicitely necessary to comprehend what they are. Even if you didn't get the implication, you could still see the Empire as evil and want them to lose.

You were also still worthy of the title master...

@@darthgorthaur258 ? Context pls

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I think you're right, I believe some clones and possibly a Jedi almost caught Sidious red-handed, but, like you, I don't remember the exact details since it's been a while since I've heard one of these channels describe it.

@@lastmanstanding-xp3ub A Republic intelligence officer and some clones did nearly catch Sidious red-handed, but they were gruesomely killed by some guards he tipped off.

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I love the story of the

Alot actually compared what happened in Episode 3 to the real word and said it was George commenting on a post-9/11 America.

1. Kylo Ren 2. Rey 3. Poe 4. Finn 5. General Pryde

From least to most. 5. Finn 4. Hux 3. Poe 2. Rey 1. Kylo Ren

SpiffyGonzales No, I'm talking about a Movie Trilogy, not the toxic Legends comics.

@@spiffygonzales5160 This discussion is for characters that appeared in the Sequel Trilogy movies, outside media characters that appears outside of the movies don't count, that includes The Mandalorian as well.

@@spiffygonzales5160 han solo being killed by his son. luke abandoning the ways. Hyperspace ram. Ect.

The people that disliked this video are Commando Droids, planted by General Grievous to spy in the Senate

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Oh hell no! Don’t jinx it!!!

@@jmWolfe2585 Oh please bish it's already here.

@@Joe-po9xn Oh yeah.

"Palpatine did 9/11"

So the applause we see when he declares his empire isn't enough?

Thrawn will get a hold of Ender's childhood drawings on the fridge door and figure him out

Anakin hadn't seen Padmé for 5 months according to the novel

@@callumpears1523 the novel isn't canon, so that's just a clue at best. But, even assuming they've been apart that long, the idea that only a few days pass between the Siege of Coruscant and the declaration of the Empire doesn't make much sense

@@jacobnestle3805 No it does and the Clone Wars confirms Anakin hasn't seen Padme in months.

@@emberfist8347 Evidence for it being mere days, other than conjecture? Because yes, they haven't seen each other in months, but over 6 months? That leaves a half-year gap in the Clone Wars timeline.

​@@papapalps2415 That sure was a lot of information my good sir. But I read trough it. And what this is telling me, is that there was likely larger engagements than the one on Coruscant, we just don't have the evidence for it. So, the possibility that there were larger engagements are for whatever reason very high, there just isn't any examples of it. Albeit, I digress, sure, in the 2003 clone wars we got the Muunilist battle, which I believe stated to have had 200 acclamators involved? So I can see where you are coming from, but still. Coruscant was the capital of the galaxy, and probably one of the most important worlds in the Galactic Republic. Sure, the defense fleet was at a weakened state, but that doesn't mean that combined with the Open Circle Fleets and whatever secret fleets Palpatine had thrown in, wouldn't have made Coruscant one of, if not the biggest engagement of the clone wars. Whatever the CIS are concerned, Grievous gathered every ship he could muster for the invasion. Which likely would have made the CIS fleet the largest in the war thus far. Sure, the whole 50% at Coruscant, 50% elsewhere might have been an exaggeration from my side, but still, the Coruscant engagement (with the information we are given) seem to have been the absolute largest engagement in the clone wars. There simply isn't any other examples that points to it not being so. I'll be open for the possibility that there were larger engagements, but with no examples or information stating anything close to it, I am gonna stick with what we know for sure, rather than pure speculation based on probability.

@@papapalps2415 Alright, alright. I want to conclude this by saying that as far as we know, Coruscant was the largest engagement of the clone wars. There's no mention of it being so, but there is no mention of anything stating otherwise either. What's more is that from what we have seen so far, and from what we are aware of, there's no other battle in the clone wars that is quite as big as the one seen on Coruscant. Albeit, there is theoretical evidence that would suggest the existence of battles of larger scale. I will however say that I personally would find it almost poetic, that the battle at the end of the clone wars, at the capital of the Republic, would have the largest battle of it all. After all, Coruscant's importance and significance can't be overshadowed. And what better place would there be for the biggest and most significant last stand for the CIS, right? It just feels like the right thing to have such an engagement being the biggest. Also, I was certain Palpatine had some hidden fleets he brought into the battle with completely new, never before seen warships (Imperators and Tectors in my mind.) But maybe that fleet was part of the Open Circle fleets? Also also. Wasn't the communications network of Coruscant completely borked due to how many ships entered trough hyperspace? Feels almost like that could be some way of saying that the battle over Coruscant wasn't just big, but it was unusually massive, you know.

Possibly because he still believed in the plan, probably because he was in shock at the sudden and unexpected betrayal.

The X-Wing has chaff launcher and shields so X-Wing wins.

Yes the essential guide to warfare confirms this

The first answer he was planning Order 66 at roughly the time he does it in the film. The second one, most of the troops are tangled up with the enemy soldiers during those fights.

Part of the answer for the second one is that when Jedi and Sith fight, they use the Force to speed up their actions to the point where most soldiers sometimes wouldn't be able to see anything but strobing lights, and wouldn't try to help for fear of killing their ally rather than the enemy. Most visual Star Wars media doesn't portray that very well, and I think a lot of the older written material didn't realize that was a thing (likely because it wasn't), but it's canonical at least in Legends.

Republic Commando: Order 66 and Labyrinth of Evil show fighting on the ground.

Clone Armor is impervious to most projectile weapons so Rex would win.

@@emberfist8347 so clone armor is superior to elite armor brute armor and mjolnir?

@@TheWingland Johnson doesn't any of that and yes it is to a degree Clone and Stormtrooper armor are impervious to projectile weapons. Plus Johnson would fall to the laser fire.