The Doctor and Jamie in the Tardis - Doctor Who - The Two Doctors 

yes frazer was ment to say look at those big balls doctor in evil of the daleks

Never make this the first episode of Doctor Who you show a blind person. They'll misunderstand the Doctor and Jamie's relationship entirely. "What's he telling Jamie to come look at? His big one?"

@@kennethraymondmoore they'll understand it even more!

They did it all the time. They put in a bunch of little jokes. It was awesome

@@kennethraymondmoore I raise you holding hands in Tomb of the Cybermen.

Plus this story did begin the Past (Jamie, Zoe, Leela, Jago & Lightfoot) and Future Companions (Charlotte Pollard) go w/ Six Program via Big Finish.

@@SuperWolsey Leela wasn't from the past lol

@@BenNightHound since she was with Four first and remaining on Gallifrey after, she qualifies. But the fact she crosses Paths w/ Two falls under futute jurisdiction as well

@@SuperWolsey so what if she travelled with 4, she still wasn't from the past, have you seen her introduction story?

@@BenNightHound it’s not about the time period she’s from, it’s about the fact that she’s a companion who’s already traveled with the doctor previously. Hence why Zoe is in there despite being from the 21st century

Or a 60’s Doctor paired with a 80’s Doctor against a set of 70’s and 80’s foes by a popular writer associated with the 70’s for an 80’s season.

But of Course.

Wish they'd stuck with continuity. The Time Lords had no idea where the Doctor was at this point.

The only explanation is that they were lifted out of their time streams, given a mission and memories of it were erased afterwards which kind of makes a mockery of the later trial.

@@ianclark934 or the season 6B theory.

@@tompearce5418 Not the High Council, no. But the Celestial Intervention Agency did.

You'll remember a similar scene when he discovered a hole in the console when Romana came aboard in "The Ribos Operation."

11: Jamie Amy: it’s Amy

Discrimination is not a right. Sure buddy 1/8th Scots makes you a true born Scotsman 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂

@@Discrimination_is_not_a_right I'd kill myself if that was me.

@@funni150 In for a penny, in for a pound, as they say. I'm a mutt, so I can claim several heritages.

@@jakechandley6241 if only that happened in the show

Two and Jamie has such a natural chemistry 😭

pat loved the role ans was always happy to play it

Steve Ross shut up ur not funny

Steve Ross what are you even doing here if you’re not a fan?

Steve Ross Lol what kinda anime shit is your icon??? Get a life you weeabo

Steve Ross not funny didn’t laugh

@Steve Ross Fuck you too.

Fun fact originally Jamie was going to be with The Second Doctor I 1972-1973's The Three Doctors,but he was busy filming Emmerdale Farm( now known as just Emmerdale)

I love fun facts

Damn i cant like this. I don't wanna ruin the 69 likes😭

@@danielyussof4490 You can like it now, it's reached 71.

Yes quite Jamie, it’s grown

The Doctor X Jamie fanfiction.

@@icommitarson It definitely exists

Cool! Oh, the fan fiction plot wheels are turning.

If they were Royal Pipers, is that for the Stewarts or the actual family in charge, the Hannoverians? The jacobite rebellions were after all, british civil wars, not England vs Scotland.

@@Mitch93 Interesting if it was the Stewarts, considering that the Brigadier is of that line.

Lol

You may like The Sirens of Time from Big Finish

Yes that's quite obvious however modifying/changing the console to an the 60's style is nice :)

And quite frankly I'm glad. I could never get past the clearly painted circles on that one wall.

The in universe explanation is that the installation of the Stattenheim remote control modified the console and walls

Hey at least they put some effort into it, imagine if they used the 6th doctor’s console. And besides the fins dividing the console being gone, this console is still the same shape as the original. I do wish they at least had repainted the old console for it, although on the other hand i would want them to preserve the console as it was.

"The mighty trout" 😂

I think there is a feeling the Doctor would spend too much time explaining things - if the companion wasn't from at least the 20th century. Which in turn would cause problems with pace.

@@robalexander8065 they did it for 26 years, it didnt interfere, young people these days just have very short attention spans

@@julieeverett7442 not just young people, and it’s worth remembering that the stories started out as all multiple episodes, so there was more time for that sort of thing.

Like Jamie McCrimmon and Victoria Waterfield and Katarina of Troy

@@robalexander8065 *ahem* THE DOCTOR IS ALWAYS EXPLAINING THINGS!

You gonna argue that liz Shaw, Sarah Jane, leela, Romana or nyssa (just to name a few) fit into that role? Even then, that's a horribly reductionist way to look at the characters who technically do fit that archetype. Are you gonna try and tell me that ace and Donna are at all similar? I agree with the general criticism that they should vary the type of characters they have as a companion more than they do though, as far too many are a girl from present day earth. Other than captain Jack, who was only a companion for 2 stories, every single companion in the modern show has been from present day earth. Even in the old show that problem started to show up towards the end where all of the 6th and 7th doctors companions were from present day earth.

Yup, and in New Who elevating the companion to be more important than the Doctor.

RTD and Moffat ran that into the ground faster than Disney ever could with their own shit

Turlough? Adric? K9?

We need a proper alien companion. Like Ali from The Beast of Babylon.

It really made no sense since Patrick wore a wig to play the doctor and he was portraying him in the same time period he had solid black hair.

@@Dragnmastralex Google Series 6B, should clear things up.

this particular story is one of the reasons fans believe in the season 6b theory (before he regenerated 2nd did work for the tome lords) the fact hes older, the TARDIS has a remote and discussing events that never happened on screen

@@julieeverett7442 He only looks older bc he refused to wear a wig and dye his hair. haha. In one of the audios they explain this being a mission from another Time Lord the Doctor ended up helping.

It was

Those two threw a lot of innuendo and body language in a lot.

They've said that plenty of times back in the Second Doctor's actual series, too. Not just this special...

Pat And Frazier use to make these sort of innuendos alot if you go back and watch episodes from the 2nd doctor you will pick up on them.

They also hold hands in Tomb of the Cybermen.

it's a bit more than a theory, though i was hoping for it to be explicitly lampshaded with the Fugitive Doctor in the current run. alas.

Big Finish is currently doing just that.

It would make sense considering the Time Lords have put dual control into his TARDIS considering they shouldn't know where he is at the point in time

Thats so cool! Do you remember any memories of watching the now missing episodes. How were they?

Yeah he's not noticeably different in character in this story than in stories from his era.

Jamie's brilliant - probably my favourite companion of the lot.

Jamie was the main companion of the 2nd doctors run 20 of his 21 stories. He's still doing big finish audios, so 2nd and Jamie are still going!

New Who is garbage. They tried to elevate the companions above the Doctor.

@@fjccommish so don’t watch. Plenty of stuff out there I’m sure is more to your tastes

hes still with us, so why not, even if its very old Jamie telling stories about this strange man he travelled with

@@julieeverett7442 He didn’t join The Power of the Doctor unfortunately

@@matthewmurdock7329 Jamie isnt on 21st century Earth, he couldnt without the TARDIS

That would take more imagination than the current - or last - writing team could hope to achieve. And it would make a lot of fans happy, and apparently I've been told that some creative actually WANT to tick off certain fans. I don't pay attention to any of the politics involved in Fandoms anymore, it's so contentious. I want to judge episodes on their own merits. But I have to say, I will never understand how a company that is based around capitalism would actually WANT paying customers to no longer spend time or money on their product. It's sad, really, to see Fandoms at each others throats. Oh well. We still have the older episodes, and the first ten years or so of the new show.

i dont think it was a coincidence. the S6B theory existed before this was aired via some old comics published in the interim between 2 and 3, and it hinged on the 2nd doctor working for the time lords. the time lords who are said to have dual control of the tardis in this scene.

@@SorchaSublime nah I see what you're saying pal, but it was just genuinely how Troughton rolled, man didn't like hair dye or wigs innit

nope, NOT a coincidence!!

I actually had a high school teacher who once got in trouble for convincing an entire grade color did not exist before the 1930s and only appeared in glimpses until the 1970s as a lesson on how propoganda can lead a population astray.

Jamie also holds the record of being in EVERY ONE of the 2nd doctors stories, bar two. He wasnt in Power of the Daleks, or the three doctors, he was in everything else. NO other companion can claim this

Can't stand River, frankly. Possibly the most irritating character I've ever encounted... 🤷‍♂️

No your absolutely right all the 2nd doctor in multi doctor stories take place after The War Games people argue it isn't haven't got a clue In the 5 doctors 2nd says to the brigadier that it's the fourth time he met him and mentions Omega When he meets the hallucinations of Jamie and Zoe he says the Timelords wiped your memories of me. In this story in this scene he mentions having left victoria to study graphology which we know she stayed behind in Fury from the deep ( must have re encountered each other) He also mentions sometime shortly after this scene that he has been set on a mission by the Timelords. So I'm pretty sure he worked for them to shave time of his exile and got his memory wiped when turned into 3rd.

I personally prefer Big Finish’s explanation as to how this story fits in during season 5.

@@EditedAF987 interesting. Please could you elaborate further?

@@Daldi564 well, the Doctor, Jamie and Victoria ended up encountering a Timelord constable called Pavo who they were forced to work with in order to close a black hole that threatened to consume a space research station. However, in the process Pavo’s TARDIS was destroyed, and so the Doctor offered to help him complete his mission in talking Dastari out of his time travel experiments. So Pavo gave the Doctor a stattenheim remote which changed the console room layout and the Doctor and Jamie left after dropping Victoria off at the research station’s library. After the Doctor completed his mission, Pavo erased the TARDIS teams memories of their encounter so that he wouldn’t have to arrest them. The story is called “The Black Hole” and I’d recommend checking it out as there’s a whole other twist that I left out of my explanation above

@@EditedAF987 I'll look into it somewhen and come to a judgement as to whether the above clip is set before or after the War Games.

Amy probily would be flirting with him lol

This and the Five Doctors, where the Second Doctor can remember what happened to Jamie and Zoe at the end of the War Games, even though he supposedly regenerated right after

Frazier Hines looks amazing, he really doesn't looked to have aged a ton from the 60s shows.

I would guess they might have kept it for possible use in exhibitions etc. as the 20th anniversary festivities had been very successful.

Jon Pertwee also wore Bow Ties. Or did no one notice?

Yeah, plus even if they did have the first console, it was in bad condition by the war games, and it was expensive to recreate the original set from the 60s, however, they did still have the late 70s/early 80s console in storage, and that console was used to give a vintage look. Maybe one day we can get a special edition of this story and the second doctor and Jamie could be greenscreened onto the original 60s set, it is possible nowadays.

@@TheProfessor230 hopefully yeah, i mean i dont mind the continuity error but its just weird to see

@@ScorpionNova yeah I agree