The Dodleston Messages: Ghost in the Machine 

It's 2:42 here in Texas. Put this on to listen to as I drift off to sleep. Mistake! This is too fascinating and I CANNOT stop listening!

Your channel is the best. You don't scream or yell or talk for hours about yourself. Straight to the point and absolutely underrated. Thank you for your hard work! Such a treat!!!

I'm on day 2 recovering from surgery and was delighted to have this! I remember when the original story came out. So much fun to listen to, especially in your lovely voice. Thank you so much for this episode! Truly my favorite for many reasons.

What an awesome privilege to listen to these stories! I’ve been fairly immobile and greatly appreciate being able to (attempt to) fall asleep while listening. Quiet music. Low-key narration. No LOUD special effects. Brilliant!

Imagine having a friendly conversation with someone from the 1520’s… How wonderful!

"2109" is made here to sound like representatives of John Keel's "Ultraterrestrials," engaging here in guiding human evolution via Jacque Vallee's "Control Mechanism." Excellent presentation and mystery. We are being moved forward whether we know it or not.

You have the most amazing voice ❤ Very calming and soothing. My ears love it and my brain can't get enough of the stories you tell. I love turning off the TV and listening to you. Your tell them all in wonderful detail. Thank you for all your hard work.

This honestly sounds like an amazing ARG. Ken and Debbie even treat it like an ARG, getting friends involved and other people to play along.

My family likes the Dr. Who quote: "timey-wimey thing", we use the phrase often. On the other side of the veil there is no time, as NDEers and others can attest. As a scientist, I still think there is much we don't know about the relationship and true nature of space and time, and the supposed limit of the speed of light. It's obvious there is some connection, even to physicists, but we have much yet to learn and it will take a conceptual leap or three to get there. Where's Einstein when you need him? Interesting story, and like many others, perhaps there is a germ of truth there? I also love it just as a story.

Dark Histories, Love your narration, well researched and written. Thanks

A street in Liverpool where people have reported that everything looks normal, but it _smells_ like it's the 1950's?? How do they know how the 1950's smell?

Yep crazy as the whole thing sounds, Ken and Debbie come over as quite genuine.

Ken is an interesting character. The only thing my mind could come up with, listening to how sincere he is when speaking, is that he suffers from some sort of dissociative identity disorder with non co-conscious identities, Thomas and 2109.

i’m so glad u end it light heartedly, bec just before bed this story is spooky. thank you for lighting the mood

Just found this channel, was looking for a more in depth explanation if this story...glad I found this...thank u for the upload

My goodness, this was good! I am a sucker for time travel stories, a huge Jack Finney fan. If only it were true.

It was fun writing a review for you! Thanks for the quick delivery of the magnets and stickers! My production notebook sports them proudly! I hope you do another episode on Time Slips. This story was great and it would be super interesting to hear more about things like the Liverpool Road.

My first thought when I heard this story was "How has this not been a Dr Who episode", but given the history of the story and the BBC, I guess it could cause some problems. But then when you mentioned that street in Liverpool, I thought again "How has this not been a Dr Who episode", especially now that the show has main characters from Liverpool

Lucas put the book in the chimney at the cottage where he first saw the green light. Fist place I'd look anyway

I found proof that 2109 predicted a black hole that formed in 2019 its in the Delphinus constellation

I'm not saying I believe this story, but if it made sense, I'd believe it less. We're trying to understand something that's over our collective head. Fascinating, though, either way. Great show, so glad I found this channel.

I just found this channel and so far I think it’s pretty good. I’ve heard this story before and at first I was a little skeptical but the further I got into it the more unlikely the idea of someone faking this complex storyline becomes.

Fascinating tale and I hope I live long enough to see the book unearthed

Thanks for a great podcast mate, addicted already, you have the perfect voice for this

Amazing episode and creepy! Please do more like this! 😊 I do wonder if Ken was writing the messages. You said at the beginning that he was becoming bored of teaching and wanted to do something different.. Maybe this was his way of bringing some excitement into his life?

Looked up “Out of this World” it’s a 4 part series produced by BBC in late 90s. I enjoyed it & it’s here on YT. It’s worth checking out.

Nothing better to relax to on a Sunday, thanks Ben.

Just started listening love the work

I dont think thomas' book will ever be found. If 2109 didn't want ken and thomas to know each other's identity, they'd have remove the evidence (Secretly taken the book). But damn id love to hear the secrets about the universe that garry had heard from 2109.

Wow this is totally fucking crazy as hell, I'm just completely blown away by this story.

This has always interested me. Thank you!

Here it is, my ear massage!

I had a BBC micro - loved this nostalgia shot - thanks

*I'm getting addicted to this Channel. It amazes me how so very precision professional perfect this man is at Story-Telling and Reading. How impeccable his Voice and Diction is, and appealing the Voice + Accent just truly tops off the package.* The man should be as famous as the 1980's Radio Show here in the USA: Garrison Keiler - Prarie Home Companion, set in "Lake Wobegon". A Minnesota based Weekly Radio Show, Story-Telling. It became Nationally Famous and had a mass number of listeners, I would estimate at easily over a half Million. One of the most memorable subjects of the 1980's. If you see this, - Google it and I'm sure there are copies on RU-vid. It is a "genetic trait" I believe, my fondness for Story Telling, *"being the good Irish girl I am"* - and having had been schooled plus university in the South/Dixie, USA. There use to be the best Story Tellers in the South - 2 I recall - One was also a Tennessee State Representative - and with a group of us in Nashville for a State Chamber of Commerence Conference. We had dinner at the Petroleum Club - a Private Urban sort of Country Club - atop one of the buildings downtown. Perfect setting for the group of various Professionals, Mayor, a Judge, City Attorney and this delightful Southern Story Teller. I have never laughed so much and so deep ever - it was the most enjoyable business dinner - dinner period - I've Ever Experienced. Cheers me to recall the night and I still recall 1 of the stories - the man was best - God, I want to laugh like that again! Story Tellers as Priceless! 5 🌟's

Hate I missed the postcard/sticker mail absolutely love your channel and voice . cheers friend

If you like time-slips, and enjoy fiction, you should read 'Woman on the Edge' of Time by Marge Piercy. It's a great but original story that keeps you second guessing yourself. I only read it once years ago but I still think about it all the time. And if you haven't seen the movie 12 Monkeys you definitely should :-)

Seems like an episode of Sapphire and Steel to me!

Fascinating story, not quite sure what to make of it actually. Enjoy your narration very much!

Loved the presentation, research, and talking. Also liked how at the end, narrator directly addresses us, talking to us, being himself. Very good listen. Sub'd and look forward to hearing more!

Bring it on Ben!! :) And thanks for the mail out goodies!!!

Oxford library ....book is hidden their?

Best one yet!

Subbed. Was listening to this on astonishing legends podcast.

There was a time in my life where I witnessed a possession & it was a man speaking Latin Makes me wonder how strange real life is

Late to the game as usual but here is my take. Maybe someone was hiding/living somewhere in the cottage? I kept thinking of the brick wall that is part of the chimney? (Sorry idk I live in Florida no chimneys) it’s just too strange that the picture of the car could be seen etc, etc but idk.....it’s crazy to think someone was so bold if they were hiding in the house moving things around. Anyhow, great presentation as always love the stories. 👍😀

Hey Babe podcast sent me here.

Okay, i saw mention of this book on a different podcast about vintage computing.....found the pdf for this book and started to read it, about 3/4 of the way got fed up, it was really getting lame. So I did a lil investigating too. Its funny that no one anywhere mentions that LEEMS is an acronym for Low Energy Electron Mass Spectroscopy....and boiste is middle english for box. I bet Ken knew this too. I did waste a good day reading this book as well. Nice try Ken!

Hopefully an enterprising English scholar, manuscript forger, and Dodleston lore expert are hard at work making Hawarden's (?) Book. Come to think of it, why hasn't the Voynich Manuscript crept into this legend yet?

If nothing else it's a great, intruiging and original story and to be honest I don't know what to make of it. I'd love a ' where are they now' catch up.

Being agnostic and conflicted about anomalous events is natural, have you had one? It has nothing to do with the reader and everything to do with what the writer is going through. One of the core features is beliving (being unable to deny), in some sense what you saw "I know what I saw" , conversely thinking you are going mad. And knowing no one will beleive you, because you know you wouldn't have beleived others. "Please - believe me, look..." You reconcile that through looking to over explain or justify. If you want to write fiction, you have none of that contradiction. You may introduce doubt as a litterary device to make it believable, psychologically, but it will be applied to make the reader reader more convinced of the realism, not less. To accept here is a human reality behind it. The idea that someone who has experiences like this (if they are real) would just write them with a feeling certaintiy, and not go through conflict, or act strangely, is absurd and illogical. Let alone for, him being a "downer" by self doubting your expected narrative.

No-one likes 2109, it's quite normal to dislike them!

2109 is the reason the communication could even happen. How did Thomas have a box to type in lol

I love time travel stuff and both wish and not wish these events were true, don't know why. I've looked up 2109 and it seems it's considered a number of an angel offering guidance, to trust your intuition, that sort of thing. I wonder if it's not the year, but other entities, made of energy as they said. IF it's all true. Or, the number is used to further the story's mystery. Thanks for a wonderful time. I will definitely look into your channel.

It was probably Debbie. She had opportunities to write the messages when she was alone in the cottage.

listening from the ukwales 2021❤️

2109 is what makes it believable because it makes 2 predictions that came true

Why would Lucas leave his book anywhere but the cottage?

Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam. " Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"

I think Deb or Peter were fucking with Ken. If its deb thats one fucking long con. Fascinated and will be reading the book…

Only just read this but do you still do chats about stuff? Sounds like lots of fun and as someone with social anxiety seems like something right up my street as you said it's a kind community to chat about certain topics! Really enjoyed this video and thanks for making it! X

The weirdest story I have ever heard

If it were a BBC Micro in 1986 then it had a modem you could buy for it to access other computers via phone line. I used one to create pages of teletext. The modem had been around for a while at that point, though it was quite rudimentary and shaped like a couple of house-bricks.

A great tale. I fear it will boggle my mind. I am sorry to hear you think it is nonsense. I am inclined towards hoping it's not a fraud. A imaginative author might work this up into an interesting fictional story.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if was true? It would make an awesome film.

These days I think there would be better equipment to connect with any ghost in the cottage. Genuine mediums would be able to contact any manifestation in there. If the cats are to be believed, then there was something in the cottage.

It's a fun modern story, and I'd love to believe it. There's just too much magic involved for it to even be science fiction. And there are few enough people involved for it to be a hoax. A small clique of closely related people with a story kept straight, then Gary who has a story the rest don't need to be able to verify, nor does he need to know one bit of the others' story as a first-hand account. The researching friend as well didn't need to keep any first-hand information straight- and in fact I could see this as a prank on him, taken WAY too far. "Hey, ye olde english nerd, how do you like this that magically showed up on the computer?" Followed up with, "oh fuck, he thinks it's real, where do I take it now?" and then "dammit, he's actually following the leads, now I need a way to retcon this." The buddy keeps pushing further investigations, Ken keeps trying to find an offramp, next thing you know he's got a book about what a jackass he is to his friends. 2109 was simultaneously necessary to the story, and the point at which the story went off the rails. Why would a group of tachyon beings who have always existed connect 1521 to 1985? And why do they associate themselves with 2109 when human time scales have no meaning to them? Why do they manifest themselves to one end of the connection but leave the other end to a degree of chance? Ken and Debbie were selected for some great purpose- as much as it is comforting that the mundane task of communication in the great web of human computers is itself a great purpose, one must imagine that tachyon beings would be thinking of something much, much bigger. They theoretically already retconned human history from two points, so one might suppose that the purpose would be to continue to continue to connect humanity not just across space, but across time. That either hasn't happened, or we're living in a kind of "lathe of heaven" universe in which the world is made new daily as world leaders coordinate across history trying to find the perfect path to create more generations of humanity. So the beauty of this (likely) hoax is that its (probable) falsehoods invite imagination and reflection well beyond the source material. I'm reminded of "Alien Autopsy". Hilarious and well crafted movie about the footage that wound up on Fox in the 90s. That might make a fun episode here.

Chrissy chaos bought me here family

The first thing I thought about was 'the siren call of the hungry ghosts' since the information was so close and yet wrong as provided by the contacts past and present...

This is so interesting

I wonder how, LW got the messages in his time And how would he know how to use the computer all very odd

I think Thomas’s (Lucas’s) book is hidden inside his tombstone.

How would Tomas know that Kinnerton Hall would be built over a century later, in the 17th century? He seems to know things he should not know, but which a modern hoaxer would know.

This is a fantastic story, I loved every minute of it. But totally agree with your conclusions: a total hoax. An inventive hoax, but still a hoax.

Great story

An excellent podcast with an interesting story. Obviously I'm inclined to be skeptical of the events truthfulness. For one, the communication as a whole was obviously 2109's doing. Did either Lucas or Ken ever bother asking 2109 why they were doing it in the first place. Also the poltergeist activity Lucas and Ken were having was again obviously (to my understanding anyway) 2109's doing. Why wasn't 2109 confronted with it and asked why that was happening? Yes these were strange happenings, but the progression of their actions doesn't seem logical.

It was obviously Gary. His number was the only solid information given.

Carbon monoxide leak from the water heater can be a hell of a thing😂 Great story though

i had two views on the latin, Tomas said that he couldnt write latin very well, so any latin that Tomas did write wouldnt be very good. However... Tomas was an educated man, in a presitigious college. he was the dean of the college, i believe he would have known latin fluidly.

subbed 👍🏼

Isnt BBC an acronym for something? :O Oh, poor little BBC is completely out of its depth in this temporal mess. :/

Interesting, is there a link to the free-for-all?

any expert on english, computer technology and history would be able from his or her corner, would be able to settle the matter.

What if aliens where flying to Earth on a spaceship the size of a fly?

I like time slips🤓🤣

*S P O O P Y*

This guy could talk a glass eye to sleep. The analysis at the end. Just talk normal. It sounded like your was milking a cow in the dark. Just creepy man.

the author doth protest too much

The schools IT department probably did it.

It was a hoax wasn't it?

Hoax. Paper was made from linen, not wood in the 16th century. Thanks for your work and the upload, though.

Hoax for sure.

A total wind up from beginning to end - a waste of 1 .5 hours of my life. I love your channel but in future stick to real crime please !