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The Doppler Effect: Another sudoku of crazy brilliance 

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** TODAY'S PUZZLE **
Knickolas specialises in sudokus that are memorable and world-class. This latest, Doppler Effect, joins a stable of puzzles that have few peers. This one forces Simon to think in new ways - we'll be interested to hear whether there are any mathematical theorems out there that would help!
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Normal sudoku rules apply. The grid contains two “galaxies”. A galaxy is a collection of orthogonally-connected cells which exhibit 180 degree rotational symmetry around the central cell of the grid. Eg If r2c4 is in a galaxy then r8c6 must also be in that galaxy. All cells must be part of a galaxy and the two galaxies may only ever overlap in one cell - the central cell of the grid. No 2x2 area may be fully part of one galaxy. One of the galaxies is “redshifted” and cells in it have a value of one greater than their digit. The other galaxy is “blueshifted” and cells in it have a value of one less than their digit. Values along an arrow sum to the value in that arrow’s circle. Values in a cage sum to the given total. Digits may not repeat in a cage, but values may.
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@Knickolas
@Knickolas 4 месяца назад
Hey everyone, Knickolas here. I’m very excited to watch this one! Thanks Mark and Simon as always for the feature and for the amazing content!!! An interesting thing I noticed while setting this puzzle is that there’s no valid way to resolve the galaxies if you have an even lengthed stretch of a galaxy along the perimeter (not including the corner cells). I was able to prove this using code but I wasn’t able to find any logical proof of why this breaks the puzzle. If anyone can find a reason for this I’d be very interested in learning why this is so :)
@Vorash00
@Vorash00 4 месяца назад
I completed this one last week. Very enjoyable!
@Censeo
@Censeo 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the amazing puzzle. Regarding your question, maybe some Oxford math professor can have a go? Otherwise I think it will remain a mystery 😆
@MarkBennet10001
@MarkBennet10001 4 месяца назад
If there is a worthwhile (easy-ish) proof it will surely involve bishops move (checkerboard) logic. The four digits linking to the central cell all have the same checkerboard colour. An even length section on the boundary might work with the whole boundary. But otherwise there will be four boundary sections all over even length and having different parity endpoints. There are 44 non-central cells to allocate, so both galaxies have the same "limb length" modulo 2 (each galaxy has two limbs). So there is a lot going on. But I have Mark's puzzle to catch up with.
@JamesRisse1
@JamesRisse1 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the puzzle I really enjoyed it. I'd love to see more with this rule set.
@ZaidK_
@ZaidK_ 4 месяца назад
Were you inspired by the game Nurikabe?
@Babinzo
@Babinzo 4 месяца назад
That Zippersnake poem is incredible!
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary 4 месяца назад
Yes!
@bobblebardsley
@bobblebardsley 4 месяца назад
Thank you 😊
@martysears
@martysears 4 месяца назад
@@bobblebardsley it really is! do you mind if we add your awesome poem to our page where the puzzle is?
@bobblebardsley
@bobblebardsley 4 месяца назад
@@martysears Go for it, I'd be flattered 🙂
@joelstevens5670
@joelstevens5670 4 месяца назад
You’re right there, it wouldn’t go amiss in a classic children’s novel! So pleased it got a deserved read out in the video so people could enjoy it in spoken form (as Simon does so well). Well executed wordplay and poetry are just the best. :)
@bobblebardsley
@bobblebardsley 4 месяца назад
I'm absolutely not going to be doing this every day (I can only imagine what it would be like trying to describe a wrogn puzzle in verse...) but I figured I'd do one more for the people who enjoyed yesterday's effort, this time in iambic pentameter: To fill the grid, regard the Doppler shift of distant spiral galaxies that drift and spin within the inky night-time sky, with rules to tell you where their arms must lie. Each galaxy remains, you'll surely learn, symmetrical when spun through half a turn. A further rule must always be obeyed: orthogonal connections must be made. A pair of regions must be rightly placed, adhering to these guidelines boldly faced: No galaxy may increase to accrue all four cells lying in a 2x2. The grid (in full) must occupy this map, yet only in one cell they overlap: the cell in row and column numbered fifth. The galaxies are different in their shift. One galaxy, its Doppler shift in blue, has values adding one less to each clue. One galaxy, its Doppler shift in red, has values counting for one more instead. Each cage's total indicates the sum of values which its contained cells become; no digit twice into a cage may fit, but shifted values may, if sums permit. The values which on arrowed lines you place must sum to match the value at its base; and finally, the rule that never shocks: in every column, every row and box there must appear the digits 1 to 9 with no repeats in any box or line. With such a grid, and regions red and blue, Doppler Effect's solution will be true.
@martysears
@martysears 4 месяца назад
wow, this is absolutely epic. Loving your work!
@Knickolas
@Knickolas 4 месяца назад
What an honor to have such a poem written after your puzzle 🤩 Thank you very much for this! ❤️
@bobblebardsley
@bobblebardsley 4 месяца назад
@@Knickolas Thank you! 🥰
@emilywilliams3237
@emilywilliams3237 4 месяца назад
You are amazing. Thanks for the encore!
@Anne_Mahoney
@Anne_Mahoney 4 месяца назад
Heroic couplets! And I love "the rule that never shocks." 😻
@HunterJE
@HunterJE 4 месяца назад
For the concise and general proof that checkerboards always break, I think it goes something like this: the crossing rule means each galaxy has exactly two distinct arms, each connecting to the center cell from opposite sides. For two checkers of color A to connect to the same galaxy they must EITHER connect to the same arm or to opposite arms. If they're the connecting to same arm they will surround one or the other color B checker, leaving it no way to reach the center. If they connect to opposite arms those arms touch diagonally and so their galaxy forms a sort of figure-of-8 shape that fully encloses the color B galaxy, leaving one of the color B checkers fully blocked outside.
@Knickolas
@Knickolas 4 месяца назад
Very elegantly said 👏
@moby4177
@moby4177 4 месяца назад
i did it by considering access points to the middle square.
@payprplayn
@payprplayn 4 месяца назад
That works in this puzzle, but I don't think it would quite work with just yin yang rules + center crossing (I'm not sure if that's a goal, but your explanation seems to only use yin yang logic, leaving it incomplete). Basically the figure-8 shape you describe in the second case could still allow the enclosed arm and the excluded arm of color B to both touch the center, but it prevents them from doing so symmetrically, and prevents the enclosed arm from touching the perimeter. Given that in this puzzle we have both symmetry and all regions touching the perimeter, it works, but at least one of those constraints is required in addition to the yin yang + crossing rules to forbid checkerboards.
@HunterJE
@HunterJE 4 месяца назад
@@payprplayn No, I was of course talking about the rules puzzle we're looking at right now, why would you assume I was talking about anything else?
@Paolo_De_Leva
@Paolo_De_Leva 4 месяца назад
Even simpler: consider only one "side" of the grid, and treat it as it were a yin-yang puzzle (all yellow cells are orthogonally connected; all green cells are orthogonally connected; no 2x2 region can be completely filled with a single colour). As Simon shows @29:50, there must be a *green wall.* Just remove whatever you find on the left (or right) side of that wall. Everything else (including the green wall) is just a yin-yang puzzle, where checkerboards are not allowed because there is no way to connect two corners without segregating the other two corners from each other. For instance, if you connect the *yellow* corners to each other, it becomes impossible to connect the *green* corners.
@zogannstorm6044
@zogannstorm6044 4 месяца назад
Now there's a challenge for setters..... rhyming rulesets!
@ryaneakins7269
@ryaneakins7269 4 месяца назад
What about a haiku?: Normal sudoku Xs add to ten, Vs five Don't let your snake touch.
@Nevir202
@Nevir202 4 месяца назад
@@ryaneakins7269 Only acceptable if written in Kanji 😛
@joelstevens5670
@joelstevens5670 4 месяца назад
Challenge accepted. 😉
@abcadef6171
@abcadef6171 4 месяца назад
Easy way of seeing the break-in with the perimeter: all coloured components of the perimeter separately have to connect to the centre. The centre only has four sides. This also makes it easy to see that there are no checkerboards - once those four components on the perimeter have used the four sides of the centre, there's no more sides available for any wierdness with checkerboards (if you prefer, we've divided into four smaller sub-boards, and we're playing normal ying-yang on each).
@Paolo_De_Leva
@Paolo_De_Leva 4 месяца назад
Here is how I did it: Consider only one "side" of the grid, and treat it as it were a *Yin-Yang* puzzle (all yellow cells are orthogonally connected; all green cells are orthogonally connected; no 2x2 region can be completely filled with a single colour). As Simon shows @29:50, there must be a *green wall.* Just remove whatever you find on the left (or right) side of that wall. Everything else (including the green wall) is just a Yin-Yang puzzle, where checkerboards are not allowed because there is no way to connect two corners without segregating the other two corners from each other. For instance, if you connect the *yellow* corners to each other, it becomes impossible to connect the *green* corners.
@jonh6585
@jonh6585 4 месяца назад
that crafty little 5 = 3+1 arrow all redshift nearly caught me out as I assumed it was "all red so all same" forgetting the two arrow digits were two shifts yet the circle only 1.
@HunterJE
@HunterJE 4 месяца назад
I feel like it's helpful to note that once you have all the colors of a killer cage in this ruleset which digits are in which color cells doesn't matter at all, the commutativity of addition means it's the same overall net modifier to the overall total regardless of how you move the digits around in it. Feel like Simon added difficulty for himself by continuing to keep track of which cells were getting +1 and which -1 while adding up rather than just mentally adjusting the overall target and then solving it like a normal killer cage...
@Tahgtahv
@Tahgtahv 4 месяца назад
He did just figure out the total he needed for much of the later part of the solve where it was actually important.
@HunterJE
@HunterJE 4 месяца назад
@@Tahgtahv Kind of, but even then he kept adjusting cell by cell as he added up...
@ravenous478
@ravenous478 4 месяца назад
One of the hardest puzzles I felt very able to tackle on my own, every breakthrough felt incredible to find and finishing it just leaves you with such an amazing feeling you can’t find anywhere else. Great puzzle.
@MarushiaDark316
@MarushiaDark316 4 месяца назад
I think a more elegant way to articulate the no-checkerboards rule might be as follows: In classic Yin-Yang, you can only have two changes of color on the perimeter and no checkerboarding because, at some point, the two groups will need to cross and you are not allowed any crossings. You would need at least one crossing for each pair of changes in the perimeter to have checkerboarding. In this puzzle, you allow exactly one crossing. Thus, you are permitted a max of four changes of color in the perimeter, but you would need a second crossing in order to allow checkerboarding.
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 месяца назад
I think it is quite funny to hear Simon refer to the two galaxies with all terminology conceivable *except* the terminology _actually_ used by the puzzle itself. He really only used the "shifted" terminology like twice in the entire solve.
@titusadduxas
@titusadduxas 4 месяца назад
I surmised that once you’ve got the two colours crossing in the middle, each half of the grid represents a separate grid, so there can’t be more than one change of colour on the border of each half and normal yin yang rules apply. I also made things easier when I realised that a cage sum with two colours could be worked out by ignoring the pair and adding 1 for each of the others
@Yull-Rete
@Yull-Rete 4 месяца назад
Simon spent 25 minutes convincing himself that there were only 4 border regions and there couldn't be checkerboarding, which was intuitively obvious to me since it made too many regions chase too few connections. However, his meticulous approach is doubtlessly superior for trying to get the right answer every time instead of trying to get the right answer quickly, but only most of the time.
@dustpan5356
@dustpan5356 4 месяца назад
I think that’s the biggest challenge of a puzzle like this is proving out what is actually true. For me, the intuition has failed me in the past so I always wonder if I’m jumping to a conclusion too soon. But for Simon and Mark, one of their main focuses on this channel is solving through logic and not intuition, so I appreciate the thoroughness even if it makes the video longer.
@zondebok980
@zondebok980 4 месяца назад
I think it was intuitively obvious to him also (and he even comments on that at one point), but delving into the rabbithole of proving it is kind of their thing :)
@RolandGiersig
@RolandGiersig 4 месяца назад
In this case, the galaxy rules are just a more restricted set of yinyang-rules, adding the symmetry part. The central field that allows crossover just means that the perimeter may have 4 stretches of colour instead of only two, and would allow for one more checkerboard to be resolved. But galaxy symmetry rules dictate that there are always an even number of checkerboards. Therefore, no checkerboards are allowed.
@snilefisk
@snilefisk 4 месяца назад
I was VERY happy when you made the colours blue and orange, I had the same thought in the beginning of the solve, and was glad you found your way there ❤
@77kaczka77
@77kaczka77 4 месяца назад
Very fresh idea, beautifully composed and solved. I admire the poetry especially dealing with such a difficult subject. Altogether, wonderful Sunday logic show!
@CharlieGrant88
@CharlieGrant88 4 месяца назад
Another amazing solve, Simon - you way you tackled the ruleset, and juggled the constraints whilst finding that neat logical path. I aspire to be as clear-minded as that!
@jonhansen9622
@jonhansen9622 4 месяца назад
Another very interesting ruleset!
@diegotomazpereira
@diegotomazpereira 4 месяца назад
Not my first video, but sharing with you, your videos reached Brazilians!!
@Raven-Creations
@Raven-Creations 4 месяца назад
This was much, much easier, but if you don't know the trick, it's like trying a puzzle that needs SET, but you've never heard of SET. You're missing a powerful tool for puzzles like this. You need to think about them topologically. It avoids tying yourself in knots trying to think of ever more complicated ways of doing things, and worrying that you can't prove something because even though something seems impossible, you might have missed the one potential way of doing it. Thinking topologically means you can simplify the puzzle as much as possible. What do I mean by thinking topologically? The spiky head of a mace is topologically a sphere because there is only one surface with no holes. The spikes are irrelevant to the topology. A cube is also topologically the same as a sphere. A rubber band is topologically a torus no matter how many twists and knots you put in it. If you cut it, or punch a hole in it, it is no longer a torus. In application to this puzzle, it doesn't matter how circuitous you try to make the pattern, it is still topologically a simple cross. We know this, because there are at least four changes of colour on the perimeter, so we can be certain that each arm of the central cross must touch the sides. The puzzle can be represented as a horizontal green line filling R5 and a vertical yellow line filling C5. Now it's trivial to see that more colour changes are impossible. You only need to consider any single quadrant. Each quadrant contains a green arm and a yellow arm. All yellow cells in the quadrant need to connect to the yellow arm, and all green cells need to connect to the green arm, and they can't isolate any of the other colour in doing so. Topologically, all you are doing is widening both the green arm and the yellow arm until they meet. There is no way for any green cell to touch the other green arm in the other half of the grid. Ditto for yellow. The puzzle has now reduced to four yin yang puzzles, and yes, chequerboards are impossible. It doesn't matter how convoluted you make the boundary, it has to reduce to the same topology, so all you have to do is prove that it's impossible for the simple case to know that it's impossible for any shape of boundary. Armed with this, we know that between each marked boundary on the edge there must be a single colour. We know that chequerboards are not possible, the rules forbid 2x2s, and we can colour almost the entire grid. I was able to colour all but 8 cells - a domino in R2C6/7 which had to be one of each colour, and the vertical domino in the 19 cage (and their reflections). I coloured the regions green and purple until it became obvious which was red and which blue, which happened when the 13 and 14 cages had to be all one colour. They couldn't be blue, because they'd have to sum to 31, so they must be red. When it came to the numbers, you kept forgetting that the placement of the digits doesn't matter. For instance, in the 23 cage, you were saying "If the 1 goes there it counts as 2". It doesn't matter at all, because all the colours do is apply an adjustment to the target total. All you need to know is the effective total, which means the 23 cage has to contain digits which sum to 25. Even knowing the trick with the colouring, and realising that the placement of the digits in cages had no effect on the total, this was still a very interesting puzzle and brilliant setting. Depending on which elements they are on, the red shift and blue shift either had a subtle effect, or a profound effect (or none at all), which adds an interesting nuance to the puzzle. I'd love to see more like this.
@emilywilliams3237
@emilywilliams3237 4 месяца назад
This was, as usual, a very interesting solve. You are a master of the geographical puzzles, Simon, and I enjoy watching you solve them and I always try to learn from you. Thanks for this video!
@bobblebardsley
@bobblebardsley 4 месяца назад
1:30 Thank you so much 😊
@JapanoiseBreakfast
@JapanoiseBreakfast 4 месяца назад
Thought you were reporting a superhuman solve time 😂
@bobblebardsley
@bobblebardsley 4 месяца назад
@@JapanoiseBreakfast 😎
@Dotesmite
@Dotesmite 4 месяца назад
Watching a long simon solve after getting out of bed always gets me ready for the day, so I certainly wouldn't mind if every puzzle was like this.
@diy_rabbithole
@diy_rabbithole 4 месяца назад
I am at the beginning and it's so funny to see Simon struggling with using "The galaxy that reduces the value of the digits" and "The galaxy that increases the value of the digits" in a sentence. Because the words are right there for him... redshifted and blueshifted lol
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby 4 месяца назад
I'm quite impressed that he didn't make the red-shift cells blue 🟦 and the blue-shift cells yellow 🟨 😜
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby 4 месяца назад
What an amazing puzzle 😻 I figured out the perimeter must have 4 sections (and remembered to use the galaxy rotation to determine where those sections were) and that there couldn't be a checkerboard pattern within about 10 minutes, managed to colour the whole grid correctly, and solved _most_ of the puzzle as well ... but some erroneous careless pencil marking led me astray with a couple of minor mistakes 😢
@Swisswavey
@Swisswavey 4 месяца назад
A really fun puzzle. It took me a while, but still a bit quicker than Simon so I'm really chuffed 😊
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary 4 месяца назад
I prefer a balance of hard vs soft puzzles. I enjoy watching both - the difficult ones just to see how they unwind and the easier ones so that I can participate and telepathically send Simon an easy deduction I’ve made while he was conquering the main point of the puzzle.
@dindul3843
@dindul3843 4 месяца назад
the reason why checkerboards dont work is the centre only has 4 ways you can connect to it so you need 4 sperate reigions by having checkerboards you are creating 2 more reigions which wont be able to get into the centre
@tjgansenberg3121
@tjgansenberg3121 4 месяца назад
Brilliant solve Simon
@anaayoung9142
@anaayoung9142 4 месяца назад
I like how some creators are mixing some rules to make even better puzzles! 😀
@markwright6685
@markwright6685 4 месяца назад
Brilliant!
@titusadduxas
@titusadduxas 4 месяца назад
1:43:52 - It did take me nearly an hour to realise the checkerboard and perimeter implications but once I’d worked that out it flowed very nicely. Another gorgeous puzzle from @Knickolas
@damadclown
@damadclown 4 месяца назад
I haven't been able to solve a puzzle in a while, I don't know if I'm getting worse instead of improving with time. Or maybe the puzzles are getting harder on average, what do you guys think? I'm losing confidence
@jongurney3810
@jongurney3810 4 месяца назад
My rule is try puzzles video length
@RichSmith77
@RichSmith77 4 месяца назад
They're definitely getting harder. An hour plus video used to be a rarity. Since the turn of the year, Simon's *average* video length has been 65 minutes long!
@MichaelPaine
@MichaelPaine 4 месяца назад
I thought he said sexual life at 52:15
@RichSmith77
@RichSmith77 4 месяца назад
I too had a moment of "Did he just...no...surely not...but it sounded like...oh, wait, must have been "social life", phew!" 😂
@sskar9390
@sskar9390 4 месяца назад
Captions helped with that for me
@Mephistahpheles
@Mephistahpheles 4 месяца назад
Easy anti-checkerboard explanation: There's 4 branches from the middle square. (Easier, I think, to think of it as 4 distinct colours.) There's 4 sections on the outer boarder. Has to be a 1:1 correlation. A checkerboard either connects to the middle (which would require more branches from the middle). Or connects to 1 of the original 4 outer sections which isolates another section. Ergo: no checkerboards allowed.
@EelcoWind
@EelcoWind 4 месяца назад
44:01 for me. I was so happy when I realized early in it were two yin yang puzzles in regards to the edges. All the logic I knew from that ruleset made it quite a smooth solve for me.
@MichaelDusoe
@MichaelDusoe 4 месяца назад
Fantastic! Since the perimeter rule is usually a corollary of the checkerboard rule (or vice versa) in standard yin yang puzzles, i wonder if one checkerboard would have been allowed if there weren't 4 changes already in the perimeter. In other words, those forced "one of each" dominoes were required in the perimeter. Absolutely gorgeous!
@rampantunease6517
@rampantunease6517 4 месяца назад
The two length arrow I figured out... But then forgot and at the end I was staring at a deadly pattern... So that slowed my time. At the end it looked like a normal arrow... "Oh yes it can't be normal it's shifted.." that moment was a big relief.
@jdkemsley7628
@jdkemsley7628 4 месяца назад
One way of thinking about the perimeter and checkerboard at the same time: Think about 4 pyramids of color radiating from the central square to the perimeter. Ignore the 2x2 rule. There's no valid way to add or subtract from those pyramids to generate a checkerboard while maintaining 4 orthogonal connections from the center to the perimeter. No matter how skinny an orthogonal area gets, you can't checkerboard across it.
@erinasnow
@erinasnow 4 месяца назад
We even might have to think about sudoku... Bingo!! No Simon, that's yet another game
@markp7262
@markp7262 4 месяца назад
1:09:04 finish. I got stalled in the middle for a while, but once I found the break through to my block, things fell into place. Another unique and excellent puzzle!
@feliomichaels
@feliomichaels 4 месяца назад
A tip for the solving of such blueshift--redshift cages is, once the grid is colored up, whenever dealing with a cage, just calculate the total red+blue shift and apply it to the cage total, and treat the cage as if it was that instead, ignoring red and blue entirely. It will always add up no matter where you put the numbers, and, in general, there's no logic aside sudoku to distinguish which digit is hot and which one is cold.
@ServantOfSatania
@ServantOfSatania 4 месяца назад
55:07 for me, what a creative way to obfuscate otherwise familiar ruleset and its secrets in a shroud of uncertainty, with a fun value constrain to top it all off
@margaritashcheglova8670
@margaritashcheglova8670 4 месяца назад
in a galaxy far far away... there were two forces... One used blue lightsabers and the other, red... Would the world of sudoku break? Or will they find the perfect balance?..
@steve470
@steve470 4 месяца назад
55:52 for me. That was a mental workout! I didn't absolutely rigorously prove the logic, but I saw that the four runs of colour on the perimeter were the maximum, then convinced myself that adding checkerboards would be equivalent to adding more runs of colour to the perimeter (in terms of ability to connect everything). When dealing with the cages, it's much easier to combine the shifts in the cage before considering individual digits. If there's a four-cell cage with three blue cells and one red cell, its digits will be increased once and decreased thrice, for a total of -2. Mentally add 2 to the clue in the corner, and you can now treat it as a bog-standard killer cage.
@ndrmyskn
@ndrmyskn 2 месяца назад
an interesting way you could've thought about the checkerboards is the same way you thought about the wall you made through the center with the 1 cell arrows. the rotational symmetry created by the 1 cell arrows sort of acted as checkerboards with space between them.
@Donrafa189
@Donrafa189 4 месяца назад
Being “chocolate tea-potted” is my favorite new Simonism.
@andremouss2536
@andremouss2536 4 месяца назад
To me, a better title would be 'topological Doppler effect' - because the main argument for excluding checkerboards is topological by nature.
@jonbrowne
@jonbrowne 4 месяца назад
Well done! Total gobbledegook to me!
@SamAHill
@SamAHill Месяц назад
I thought of each galaxy as made up of two colors: the original and the reflected version (red-A and red-B, blue-A and blue-B), which all have to touch the center. Then you can fall back on the rules of a "four-color Yin-Yang" (if that's not a contradiction) puzzle, where each color can only appear on the boundary in one stretch. I thought that meant that you *could* have a "checkerboard" so long as it involved at least three of these colors (blue-A, blue-A, red-A, and red-B for instance), but some experimentation suggests that you need all four colors to work, and it *won't* work given the added rotational symmetry of the puzzle, because on one side blue needs to enclose red, and on the other red needs to enclose blue. No proof though.
@Kaspian1828
@Kaspian1828 4 месяца назад
The checkerboard is in principal the same as dividing the perimeter in more segments. If you only consider the segments seen from the midle.
@Pulsar77
@Pulsar77 4 месяца назад
Fantastic puzzle. I almost messed it up because somehow I had convinced myself that in the 16-cage the 9 had to decrease and the 7 had to increase. Luckily I spotted the mistake.
@ReneePrower
@ReneePrower 4 месяца назад
The checkerboard doesn't work in this for the same reason it doesn't work in other similar colouring puzzles. Even though both colours can go through the center, in order for one colour to connect orthogonally back to itself, it must wrap around the center. Cutting off one side of the other colour's central crossing in the process.
@cjbralph
@cjbralph 4 месяца назад
Reading the rules, I imediately noticed that this was effectively a mirrored yin-yang puzzle (fill the grid with 2 regions, avoiding 2x2s). Therefore, it was fairly easy to conclude that there couldn't be more than 4 colours on the perimeter (the normal 2 mirrored/doubled) and there couldn't be checkerboards.
@lapetitecuillereetlepaindo3005
@lapetitecuillereetlepaindo3005 4 месяца назад
There are generic rules for connectivity between regions. It's called graph theory. Now the specifics of the galaxy sudoku aren't clear to me, but let's say without the possibility of a "bridge" you usually can have only 1 color swap along the border of the grid (meaning 2 continuous stretch of the different colors). With 1 bridge, you are allowed 2 additional stretches. In this puzzle when Simon was wondering if he could have a checkerboard there already were 4 regions along the border, meaning he could treat it as regular coloring yin-yang and couldn't create checkerboard patterns.
@reisilva2940
@reisilva2940 4 месяца назад
Lovely video, funny thing you increased with the red and decreased with blue. Murphy's a bless. If it's at random it will be the always opposite.
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby 4 месяца назад
That is exactly as it was written in the rules - red shift cells have a value higher than their digit, and blue shift cells have a value lower than their digit. That fits well with the way we generally use blue/red for low/high cells so it's easy to remember "blue makes it colder, red makes it hotter". At least, I find that to be intuitive.
@reisilva2940
@reisilva2940 4 месяца назад
@@stevieinselby but doppler effect and light is the opposite, more energy makes it blue shifted and less red shifted
@blakebarnett9319
@blakebarnett9319 4 месяца назад
​@@reisilva2940 I had the same thought and wondered how far I'd have to scroll to see someone inevitably saying the same 😂
@jackcheney59
@jackcheney59 4 месяца назад
Wish I had seen the VIP pack, in the kickstarter sooner.
@quintenvanderhoeven1125
@quintenvanderhoeven1125 4 месяца назад
Creating a checker board creates a new perimeter with 8 different colour changes if you like, so it can never work.
@AdmiralVortex
@AdmiralVortex 4 месяца назад
Is it fair to say that the galaxy rule turns a 4-region ying-yang into a "half grid" regular ying-yang? If so, that's pretty sweet
@annaherbst8670
@annaherbst8670 3 месяца назад
puzzle hack: skip half an hour of pontification by simply intuiting that yin yang secrets (no more than two segments of color around the perimeter (plus two for each time they cross eachother)) and no checkerboards (except for the big one on the perimeter; that one's using the overlap and we don't have any more) and then not actually proving it
@SajjadHeydari74
@SajjadHeydari74 4 месяца назад
So my years of studying graph theory comes to practice. It is a known thing! It's a problem called planar graphs and it is well studied by Euler.
@Gonzalo_Garcia_
@Gonzalo_Garcia_ 4 месяца назад
29:04 for me. Awesome puzzle, loved it!!
@bobh6728
@bobh6728 4 месяца назад
The galaxies are red shifted and blue shifted, so I did color the middle cell blue/red. Now staring!!
@gibbbon
@gibbbon 4 месяца назад
i hate myself, i got stuck at the 5>31 arrow, i just thought "they are in the same color, no need to think of the shifting" so i was stuck with either 41 or 32 and it not resolving, it's the only thing i needed the video for, so close...
@ScottRoss8
@ScottRoss8 4 месяца назад
You can think of this grid as a yin-yang puzzle with a mirror through the center. Easier to visualize if you have a mirror that follows one of the arms of a galaxy. You get two times the number of color changes on the edge of the grid. The rest of the rules (example, no checker board) apply.
@Rach881101
@Rach881101 4 месяца назад
77:36 for me. Brilliant puzzle!
@piarittersporn
@piarittersporn 4 месяца назад
Mind bending ... but brilliant.
@Paolo_De_Leva
@Paolo_De_Leva 4 месяца назад
Here is a simpler way to show that *2x2 checkerboard patterns* are not allowed. *IN SHORT* Consider only one "side" of the grid, and treat it as it were a *Yin-Yang* puzzle❗ (all yellow cells are orthogonally connected; all green cells are orthogonally connected; no 2x2 region can be completely filled with a single colour). *MORE DETAILS* As Simon shows @29:50, there must be a *green wall.* Just remove whatever you find on the left (or right) side of that wall. Everything else (including the green wall) is just a Yin-Yang puzzle, where checkerboards are not allowed because there is no way to connect two corners without segregating the other two corners from each other. For instance, if you connect the *yellow* corners to each other, it becomes impossible to connect the *green* corners.
@Paolo_De_Leva
@Paolo_De_Leva 4 месяца назад
Of course, for this purpose, you can assume the central cell is green. No overlap is allowed between yellow and green, in standard Yin-Yang puzzles.
@yellingintothewind
@yellingintothewind 4 месяца назад
Checkerboarding would be possible without the rotational symmetry. The crossing point increases the degrees of freedom to allow checkerboarding, but then the rotational requirement splits the grid into two reduced grids which cannot overlap and without the overlap, checkerboarding is impossible.
@inspiringsand123
@inspiringsand123 4 месяца назад
Rules: 06:18 Let's Get Cracking: 10:14 Simon's time: 1h16m51s Puzzle Solved: 1:27:05 What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?! The Secret: 7x (1:07:13, 1:07:18, 1:07:25, 1:07:30, 1:07:44, 1:07:49, 1:08:02) Bobbins: 4x (05:50, 06:06, 10:30, 10:33) Three In the Corner: 2x (1:24:21, 1:26:17) Chocolate Teapot: 2x (1:21:37, 1:23:49) The Raven: 1x (01:40) ​Scooby-Doo: 1x (22:04) And how about this video's Simarkisms?! Checkerboard: 29x (34:44, 34:57, 34:59, 35:10, 35:12, 35:25, 41:15, 41:39, 41:47, 41:49, 42:38, 42:51, 43:29, 44:13, 44:33, 45:28, 45:44, 46:08, 46:16, 47:24, 47:45, 48:47, 48:49, 49:25, 49:33, 50:29, 51:13, 51:41, 51:44) Ah: 15x (12:44, 16:53, 26:04, 26:04, 26:14, 30:26, 38:51, 49:16, 1:00:50, 1:03:57, 1:03:57, 1:04:28, 1:04:33, 1:15:20, 1:19:41, 1:24:35) Hang On: 12x (13:19, 19:08, 27:28, 30:37, 37:28, 37:41, 50:30, 50:30, 50:30, 1:11:41, 1:22:55, 1:24:18) By Sudoku: 11x (11:07, 57:53, 1:06:40, 1:08:46, 1:09:48, 1:12:28, 1:13:57, 1:14:19, 1:24:18, 1:25:24, 1:25:41) Symmetry: 11x (00:47, 06:29, 16:28, 26:04, 26:25, 37:25, 37:31, 37:37, 46:50, 48:53, 1:27:52) Weird: 8x (21:16, 30:43, 30:46, 31:17, 57:15, 1:04:06, 1:08:27, 1:08:39) Sorry: 7x (04:38, 04:38, 04:55, 19:12, 57:15, 1:11:29, 1:20:16) In Fact: 7x (21:08, 58:14, 58:26, 1:04:28, 1:15:40, 1:25:05, 1:27:41) Obviously: 5x (23:54, 26:11, 32:59, 46:39, 59:05) What Does This Mean?: 5x (29:47, 39:36, 59:34, 1:10:58, 1:16:35) Beautiful: 4x (1:07:18, 1:21:56, 1:23:22, 1:27:41) Snake: 4x (02:07, 02:15, 02:25, 03:03) Bother: 3x (1:16:35, 1:17:18, 1:20:08) Brilliant: 3x (52:28, 1:06:52, 1:06:54) Good Grief: 2x (47:59, 1:03:23) I Have no Clue: 2x (21:44, 1:06:05) Incredible: 2x (1:27:17, 1:27:41) Unbelievable: 2x (51:11, 51:13) Box Thingy: 2x (1:14:42, 1:14:42) Have a Think: 2x (26:07, 27:31) What on Earth: 1x (1:19:41) Goodness: 1x (52:22) The Answer is: 1x (40:03) Clever: 1x (12:53) Naughty: 1x (1:18:24) Bingo: 1x (56:11) Lovely: 1x (57:45) Insane: 1x (37:17) Fascinating: 1x (48:29) Ridiculous: 1x (1:25:21) Gorgeous: 1x (1:24:51) Take a Bow: 1x (1:28:41) Shouting: 1x (01:42) Nature: 1x (35:31) Pencil Mark/mark: 1x (1:12:31) Cake!: 1x (06:04) Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video: Twenty Seven (9 mentions) One (120 mentions) Green, Yellow (85 mentions) Antithesis Battles: Low (6) - High (1) Even (16) - Odd (4) Black (3) - White (1) Row (11) - Column (11) FAQ: Q1: You missed something! A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn! Q2: Can you do this for another channel? A2: I've been thinking about that and wrote some code to make that possible. Let me know which channel you think would be a good fit!
@holisticboomerang
@holisticboomerang 4 месяца назад
I think you can prove the checkerboard logic with graph theory similar to the 7 bridges of konnisburg but that might be a little unnecessarily abstract for you
@TheRealPowerDoge
@TheRealPowerDoge 4 месяца назад
52:15 *surprised pikachu😮*
@XxCrazZyNo0oBxX
@XxCrazZyNo0oBxX 4 месяца назад
that's a first time I guess haha
@jimi02468
@jimi02468 4 месяца назад
This must be the first time that there has ever been a horizontal or vertical one cell arrow in a sudoku puzzle.
@MORISENSEIISGOD
@MORISENSEIISGOD 4 месяца назад
Very unlikely. This is possible in a puzzle with doubler cells or Schrodinger cells.
@Ardalambdion
@Ardalambdion 4 месяца назад
I was moved by The Raven, presented by Simon. Which other stories by Edgar Alan Poe should I look for in my library?
@margaritashcheglova8670
@margaritashcheglova8670 4 месяца назад
All of them (short stories by Poe) are cool!
@majedal-baghl4917
@majedal-baghl4917 4 месяца назад
The Cask of Amontillado is a classic.
@olivier2553
@olivier2553 4 месяца назад
And the next variant will be ying yang sudoku with 1 crossing... Which would allow one checker board or 4 changes of colour on the perimeter. Then we will see two crossings...
@zooikis
@zooikis 4 месяца назад
I think, if you look at this not as 2 intersecting snakes, but 4 different snakes that start at one point, counting of color switches and is checkerboards allowed would take less time. Because you already knew that.
@andremouss2536
@andremouss2536 4 месяца назад
Around 1:28... I can' get all this nonsense about the green going all the way to R4C5. On its way it already touches R6C5, which does the job without needing to continue, or R7C5, which isolates the yellow cells in the lower left.
@peteradawson6576
@peteradawson6576 4 месяца назад
Was the Agamemnon puzzle a trojan?
@arturslunga4226
@arturslunga4226 4 месяца назад
One must be careful when drawing examples of galaxies lol
@theredstoneengineer6934
@theredstoneengineer6934 4 месяца назад
64:14 for me
@Squishy3757
@Squishy3757 4 месяца назад
Will Simon conclude this is a yin yang with a single cross?
@Squishy3757
@Squishy3757 4 месяца назад
He did a puzzle like this previously that was called yin yang and it didn’t throw him off as much.
@awilliams1701
@awilliams1701 4 месяца назад
I've been watching the channel for 4 years and I've always wondered, what the heck is a chocolate tea pot? Is it a tea pot made of chocolate? Is it a tea pot that's being used for chocolate? I'm very confused. I get that it's useless, which is ironic because the typical digits marked this way only need a single digit to resolve the group. So in sudoku it's not useless.
@bobblebardsley
@bobblebardsley 4 месяца назад
I _think_ it's a teapot made of chocolate (i.e. useless, because it will melt when filled with hot tea). Simon refers to a 'chocolate teapot triple' when he has three unresolved pairs (e.g. 1-2, 2-3 and 1-3) because none of the cells resolves the other two (compared with e.g. cells containing 1-2, 1-2 and 2-3, where you could place the 3 by using the 1-2 pair). So it will be resolved eventually but, at the time, it's unresolved and therefore 'useless' in progressing.
@awilliams1701
@awilliams1701 4 месяца назад
@@bobblebardsley I know what the sudoku aspect is and what they are implying. I just wasn't sure what it was they were supposed to be referencing as a potential real life object. I never think they are useless because just a single digit is enough to resolve it.
@bobblebardsley
@bobblebardsley 4 месяца назад
@@awilliams1701 Oh OK, in that case yes it's a teapot made of chocolate. (Someone actually sent Simon a real chocolate teapot as a joke, it's not normally something that exists for everyday use though - other versions are "as much use as a chocolate fireguard" etc.)
@margaritashcheglova8670
@margaritashcheglova8670 4 месяца назад
Oh the world of symmetrie Sudoku's me oh the misterie La la la Can this blue be red La di da Doppler rules the set
@dvandelay
@dvandelay 4 месяца назад
I understand why r9c5 and r9c6 must be in different galaxies (same for r2c9 and r3c9). At 26:50, I don't see why it's assumed that r9c5 & r3c9 are in the same galaxy as each other. Why wasn't the other relationship also considered (r9c5 and r2c9 being in the same galaxy as each other)?
@Djaian2
@Djaian2 4 месяца назад
Simon assumes r9c5 and r3c9 are in the same galaxy at that moment just to see if it is possible. The goal is to prove that they are not. At that moment, Simon's instinct (developed by experience of yin-yang puzzles) is telling him that studying the perimeter is interesting. In yin-yang (where there is no cell that can be both colors) there can only be 2 changes of color along the perimeter. Studying the perimeter is usually a good way to start such puzzles. Here, Simon is trying to see if there can be many changes of color in the perimeter or only 4 maximum. So he assumes there are more (making r9c5 and r3c9 in the same galaxy force many changes of color around the perimeter) and Simon's goal is to prove there is a problem. It would have been better if Simon would have tried to see if you can have more than 4 changes of color in the perimeter without using the specific cells r9c5 and r3c9. He could have proven this generically (that it is not possible) and then deduced that r9c5 and r3c9 could NOT be in the same galaxy. Simon did not state it, but trying with the other way around was much less interesting because it was forcing only 4 changes of color around the perimeter and he could see (just a few minutes before that) that this was possible. So he tries the possibility that is much more forcing, to see if it breaks. I could totally see what he was doing, but for someone who was not following his train of thought, I agree that he probably formulated his intention poorly.
@dvandelay
@dvandelay 4 месяца назад
@@Djaian2 Thank you for taking the time to write the explanation.
@elizabethgrosvenor153
@elizabethgrosvenor153 4 месяца назад
I understand your concern for colourblind viewers, and I hope there is an answer available that works for everybody, but could you please stop doing the blue and orange colouring? 🙏 Please please please please please? 🙏🙏🙏 I'm not sure if it's too much contrast or too little, but it feels like the colours are shouting at me in my brain, competing for attention, can't separate them properly, and I can't see the rest of the puzzle because of it. As a neurodivergent (probably on the spectrum), the combination is *physically* painful. Sharp pains in my eyes, and a headache. Whereas the very obvious colours for this puzzle, the red and blue, would look lovely, maybe even soothing (the yellow and green are also fine for me -- the orange and purple are not). Again, my sympathies to my colour-blind brethren, and I hope there's some option that would work for everybody, but from an accessibility/anti-ableist perspective, surely 'not causing physical pain to viewers' is at least equal to 'make sure viewers can functionally see the puzzle', right? (Because viewers who have pain in their eyes are not going to be able to functionally see the puzzle either. I couldn't watch, but only listen to, the second half of the video.)
@karfaw2
@karfaw2 4 месяца назад
Why don't you post Classic Sudoku anymore?
@NicD
@NicD 4 месяца назад
Interesting: I only found this channel once "miracle" sudokus started popping up, and only then did I get into sudoku.
@Djaian2
@Djaian2 4 месяца назад
There are some fantastic classic sodoku, and sometimes, rarely though, there is one featured on the channel. But it's true that the community around CTC seems to enjoy variant sodoku a lot. With variant sodoku (and even sometimes other "pen and paper" puzzles), there can be a lot more creativity for the setter. Basically, we are discovering connections between rules, implications, and even theorems. It's like studying a field exhaustively. And we often see new interesting variants pop-up. Then a few puzzles with mix of this new variant and old variants. To me, and to a lot of viewers of this channel, that is very interesting. When it comes to classic sodoku, there are already a lot that is known. At some point we would see the same techniques used over and over. If something really new were to be discovered in classic sodoku theory, I am sure this channel would feature it. But featuring a classic sodoku that brings nothing new is not really interesting for most viewers of this channel. As an example, Simon solved a "classic sodoku" using Gurth's theorem and uniqueness (the solve used a step where you can eliminate a candidate in a cell by stating that if this number goes into this cell then the puzzle has either no solution at all or more than one solution). This video was disliked by many people, not because it was a classic sodoku, but because it involved uniqueness in the solve. I thought it was interesting, and it was indeed a glimpse of a new technique in classic sodoku. For a classic sodoku to be featured on CTC, it needs to be brilliant, to bring something new and interesting. Also, setters of sodoku puzzles will tend to enjoy setting a variant sodoku more than a classical sodoku, because it will offer more liberty, more possibilities, more chances to discover interesting connections, and so on. And if the best setters only create variant sodoku, then it will be even more difficult to find an interesting classical sodoku.
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby 4 месяца назад
Because they are mostly boring compared with the dazzling array of possibilities that variant rules have, and anything challenging usually requires lots of really tedious scanning and whittling.
@NicD
@NicD 4 месяца назад
@@Djaian2 Wasn't expecting a novel, but it was an entertaining read, gave me perspective! I actually *disliked* sudoku before these variants, for the same reasons @stevieinselby, and because the numbers 1-9 are only there as labels, with no regard to their numerical values. I agree that it can go deep, I just don't like where the depth goes. I much, much prefer how variant sudokus tickle my brain, and fog-of-war in particular removes a lot of tediousness in addition to providing its own kind of challenge.
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