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The Sudoku Grid Is ALL Fog??! 

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** TODAY'S PUZZLE **
We celebrate Missing A Few Cards' birthday today but trying another of their collaborations with Full Deck called I'll Cry If I Want To. And this puzzle might actually make you cry - it's a 'fog of war' sudoku with no cells revealed at all. Mark tested it and said it was VERY hard. Simon attempts it in a video and can confirm this assessment... but it's also as clever as you'd expect from two eminent math professors!
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Normal sudoku rules apply. Along modular lines, every set of three contiguous digits has three different remainders when divided by 3. Numbers outside the grid give the sum of the first X digits (the "X-Sum") along that row or column, where X is the first digit seen from the direction of the clue. In addition to any modular lines revealed as the fog lifts, every X-sum forms a hidden straight modular line at least X cells long starting from the cell closest to the clue. Digits separated by a black dot are in a 1:2 ratio. ALL blacks dots are given. As correct digits are placed, fog will lift, potentially revealing more clues.
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@missingdeck9999
@missingdeck9999 Год назад
FD and I enjoyed this SOOOOOOO much!! Thank you for the birthday wishes and the song about 3 in the corner! We're happy we could torture you with 2-8-age. Loved the solve! And enjoyed the popcorn during the movie :) Time to plan ahead for the next milestone ... :) -- MaFC Also, many thanks to Sven for the new animation and working with us to have this puzzle be the debut of that lovely addition. And Simon, you followed the solve path pretty much exactly as intended ... it was just a tad tougher than our usual fare :) --FD
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary Год назад
Wow wow wow!!!
@FleckerMan
@FleckerMan Год назад
Nice - thanks for the epic puzzle, and thank you Sven!
@kmcdevitt13
@kmcdevitt13 Год назад
that was a lovely puzzle, thanks to both of you for creating it.
@davidrattner9
@davidrattner9 Год назад
Just absolutely brilliant from you 2!!!
@pouletbelette
@pouletbelette Год назад
We do enjoy seeing Simon struggling like that from time to time. And the last five minutes are really the climax of this 2 hour great movie. Thanks Missing deck and full card! 😉
@lkjsdf1
@lkjsdf1 Год назад
Simons reaction to the 3 in the corner update is amazing. So worth the full watch
@iandaniel1601
@iandaniel1601 Год назад
It was!
@Mujaki
@Mujaki Год назад
That's 3 in the spotlight, losing its... confetti?
@brock2k1
@brock2k1 Год назад
1:57:28 Legend says that Simon is still un-doing and re-doing the 3, and laughing maniacally each time.
@aere481
@aere481 Год назад
The reaction by Simon when nothing appeared when the fog cleared, was priceless!
@margaritashcheglova8670
@margaritashcheglova8670 Год назад
The real name of the puzzle is "The Trolls in the Fog"
@Squishy3757
@Squishy3757 Год назад
1:20:45 “It’s so easy to overlook one of them” while deleting the 4 and leaving only 1 place in row 2 for a 4. I’m sure you’ll see it in a minute.
@RaduStanculescu
@RaduStanculescu Год назад
That 4 killed me. 😂It had stood there for so long!
@MichaelMoore99
@MichaelMoore99 Год назад
He tasks me! He tasks me, and I shall have him!
@Schoko4craft
@Schoko4craft 10 месяцев назад
spoiler 1:33:30
@clausewitzianwar
@clausewitzianwar Год назад
Watching an hour and fifty-six minutes of sudoku was made absolutely more than worth it to see the confetti surprise
@JayBea
@JayBea Год назад
A new personal record - I solved this in 124:51, which is by far the closest I've gotten to a "Simon Solve" time for a video longer than 40 minutes or so. I know that's nothing particularly special in this community, but I feel like it's a major accomplishment for me personally. Very beautiful puzzle, thank you! I really appreciated the fireworks for the 3 in the corner, and of course I sang along as soon as I saw it. :D
@Drawoon
@Drawoon Год назад
Congrats!
@Lorz
@Lorz 9 месяцев назад
Oh that is special in this community
@mydemon
@mydemon 6 месяцев назад
I did it in 123! Days..
@blahhblaah74
@blahhblaah74 2 месяца назад
Oh, but it is special. I am still at a point that I don't even start at puzzles associated with Simon-the-movie (i.e.: anything longer than a 90 minute video)... Well done!
@benjavinci2582
@benjavinci2582 Месяц назад
Congrats Friend! Thats actually a huge accomplishment, what u can be proud of
@Jinxso
@Jinxso Год назад
This grid is a representation of my mind when trying to solve some of these puzzles on CtC.
@blabla-rg7ky
@blabla-rg7ky Год назад
:))
@solfeinberg437
@solfeinberg437 Год назад
Complete fog.
@Akatsuki69387
@Akatsuki69387 6 месяцев назад
The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma - Patrick star
@MisterM2402
@MisterM2402 Год назад
I really wished there had been a black dot hiding in the final bits of fog
@RaduStanculescu
@RaduStanculescu Год назад
I was actually surprised by how long it took Simon to realize there would be no black dots. 😂I was sure quite early that there would be none.
@margaritashcheglova8670
@margaritashcheglova8670 Год назад
@@RaduStanculescu but you can't know for sure until you clear the fog, that's the point - you are sure that it's all a joke but you can never be 100% sure - ooh the torture!
@luckass90
@luckass90 Год назад
Doing this without coloring the modular sets. Simon is a mad man.
@AFT3RDAY5
@AFT3RDAY5 11 месяцев назад
Right 😂 It was the first thing I did. Which again shows the superior mind of Simon 👍🏻
@markbennet9058
@markbennet9058 Год назад
I discovered yesterday that my daughter whose birthday you mentioned at the beginning of March has surreptitiously purchased the GAS 2 puzzles and is using them to improve her variant Sudoku skills. She may catch me up before I know it ...
@timch5227
@timch5227 Год назад
I love the irony of the two constructors names, that can only have an incredible puzzle as an output
@David_K_Booth
@David_K_Booth Год назад
This has been one of my favourite puzzles so far on the channel. I was amazed that I could complete it without needing to watch the video for hints: that shows how much Simon and Mark have taught me over the last few years. Thank you, good sirs.
@RoselynTate
@RoselynTate Год назад
I came to write exactly the same thing!
@NZStarlight
@NZStarlight Год назад
Same! It took me 2 hours and 20 mins but I got there eventually!
@wayneblackburn9645
@wayneblackburn9645 Год назад
Same here, solved in under 2 hours but wouldn't have had a clue a year ago.
@Marc_Henkel
@Marc_Henkel Год назад
This is a great puzzle! It took me 2:04:34 to solve without any hint. Now its time to watch the video.
@Wolfos89
@Wolfos89 Год назад
Same here, I would definately not have gotten anywhere if not for watching CtC
@amysteele2488
@amysteele2488 Год назад
I outdid myself this evening... fell asleep during the birthday announcements, woke up to the sound of the outro music! Had a lovely nap, now to watch the video!
@MisterIncog
@MisterIncog Год назад
What a treat indeed! The troll with black dots and THREE IN THE CORNER were absolutely worth it! Wonderful job by Missing a few cards and Full deck! And of course, our dear Simon.
@dustpan5356
@dustpan5356 Год назад
Surprised Simon didn’t color the different modularities. That made it a lot easier for me to track what could/couldn’t be next to each other. Normally Simon is so color happy 😂
@richnewt
@richnewt Год назад
in today's video: Simon stresses about the possibility of a black dot in box 5, then upon revealing it's true nature at 46:27 immediately forgets about it.
@TaliyahP
@TaliyahP Год назад
I was screaming at my screen lol
@stevebreault
@stevebreault Год назад
Some of my favourite Simonisms in this video: "Out of nowhere" being the result of standard Sudoku, and a complete and utter disregard for his own pencil marks! 🤣
@MaierFlorian
@MaierFlorian Год назад
Ohh I LOVE it that a 3 in the corner now has a party effect ♥ hopefully Simon will never miss one again with this :D and the Puzzle is super interesting indeed, but way above my skills, still fun to watch :)
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary Год назад
Yes, that was fabulous 🎉!
@davidrattner9
@davidrattner9 Год назад
Great way to end a terrific solve and astonishing puzzle!
@chipsounder4633
@chipsounder4633 Год назад
Genius at work!
@penningmeestercgkdelft9159
@penningmeestercgkdelft9159 Год назад
So happy indeed that Sven did automate some of the 3-in-the-corner stuff, after it has been suggested so many times in this chat ;-) Only the sound effect still remains to be done...
@CaptainSpock1701
@CaptainSpock1701 Год назад
I've been waiting sooo long for this video! *_Thank you so much Sven._* Shout out to you. Your work behind the scenes is so appreciated. (I've been refreshing the CTC channel pretty much every 5 minutes waiting for this video - with the time difference to NZ that got quite late - but it’s worth it.) What a treat. Couldn't wait to see Simon's face with that 3 in the corner - (ᶜᵒʳ3ⁿᵉʳ)! - 1:56:04 And as per usual the CTC channel does not disappoint. This really is one of the nicest little corners of the internet and I am privileged to be a part of it.
@missingdeck9999
@missingdeck9999 Год назад
Thank you for your help implementing this!!
@CaptainSpock1701
@CaptainSpock1701 Год назад
@@missingdeck9999 Dude, I only had an absolute minuscule part to play. You guys did the awesome work! Must tell you though. It is totally surreal to see a tiny idea from Invercargill New Zealand move literally halfway around the world. (You can check. It's as far as you can get from Great Britain) Cost to subscribe to CTC - Free Getting a silly idea - Free Sending an email to Sven - Free Seeing the look on Simon's face - Priceless! In summary - Totally worth it. You guys all rock and I'm just honoured to be able to be a very small part of it.
@naomis2
@naomis2 Год назад
My husband doesn’t understand why I like watching Simon solve these puzzles. But the more I watch the more amazed I am. I am still a novice when it comes to anything other than regular sudoku. I love watching Simon talk through all the strategies. Thanks for an awesome video!
@inspiringsand123
@inspiringsand123 Год назад
Rules: 08:07 Let's Get Cracking: 14:40 Simon's time: 1h41m56s Puzzle Solved: 1:56:36 What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?! Three In the Corner: 9x (1:00:55, 1:01:01, 1:01:05, 1:55:15, 1:56:01, 1:56:04, 1:56:20, 1:56:41, 1:57:36) Maverick: 4x (1:30:31, 1:30:33, 1:30:33, 1:42:11) Bobbins: 3x (20:14, 39:00, 1:25:47) The Secret: 2x (04:24, 29:50) You Rotten Thing: 2x (28:17, 37:38) Phistomefel: 1x (1:16:02) And how about this video's Simarkisms?! Ah: 35x (16:28, 20:30, 27:36, 27:41, 28:20, 28:28, 37:23, 37:23, 39:44, 39:46, 40:20, 42:29, 55:03, 57:11, 1:01:32, 1:01:46, 1:08:09, 1:11:07, 1:11:47, 1:12:55, 1:13:46, 1:15:23, 1:18:10, 1:22:55, 1:25:34, 1:26:18, 1:28:00, 1:28:00, 1:34:17, 1:35:33, 1:36:36, 1:36:36, 1:40:57, 1:41:26, 1:54:20, 1:57:53) Wow: 12x (18:03, 32:47, 32:48, 33:22, 41:07, 43:42, 57:04, 1:00:22, 1:16:10, 1:16:14, 1:47:08, 1:54:07) Hang On: 11x (15:57, 15:57, 24:52, 28:37, 38:35, 38:35, 1:01:46, 1:17:01, 1:29:46, 1:31:18, 1:35:44) Sorry: 10x (07:32, 18:03, 18:41, 21:53, 25:45, 34:24, 34:24, 35:36, 1:38:31, 1:56:58) Good Grief: 7x (46:24, 52:18, 1:27:06, 1:27:06, 1:38:56, 1:41:02, 1:53:42) Useless: 5x (59:45, 1:32:40, 1:32:43, 1:32:43, 1:39:49) Brilliant: 5x (01:44, 05:58, 06:49, 40:34, 1:57:53) Obviously: 5x (09:33, 59:35, 1:02:03, 1:24:42, 1:55:42) Cake!: 5x (01:47, 05:52, 05:59, 06:31, 1:57:59) What on Earth: 4x (08:16, 32:48, 42:34, 1:11:19) Goodness: 4x (50:29, 1:07:56, 1:40:13, 1:56:42) Clever: 4x (56:52, 56:54, 1:18:07, 1:57:05) Come on Simon: 4x (41:50, 49:04, 1:11:37, 1:50:22) By Sudoku: 4x (41:20, 1:05:50, 1:28:30, 1:41:52) In Fact: 4x (01:13, 26:51, 1:05:54, 1:20:53) Pencil Mark/mark: 4x (48:40, 49:56, 50:00, 57:31) Naughty: 3x (41:57, 1:30:01, 1:41:07) Stuck: 3x (39:20, 1:48:30, 1:48:35) Nonsense: 2x (16:20, 16:23) I Have no Clue: 2x (42:03, 1:26:41) What Does This Mean?: 2x (53:06, 57:42) That's Huge: 2x (1:05:28, 1:09:15) Out of Nowhere: 1x (1:34:51) In the Spotlight: 1x (1:56:23) Beautiful: 1x (1:31:52) Incredible: 1x (1:57:49) First Digit: 1x (10:32) Approachable: 1x (03:38) Flurry of Activity: 1x (57:49) Magnificent: 1x (03:03) Alacrity: 1x (1:35:55) Whoopsie: 1x (1:34:27) Which Means What?: 1x (26:16) Plonk: 1x (1:11:00) Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video: Twenty Seven (13 mentions) Two (188 mentions) Black (66 mentions) Antithesis Battles: Even (5) - Odd (0) Outside (2) - Inside (0) Black (66) - White (2) Column (15) - Row (13) FAQ: Q1: You missed something! A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn! Q2: Can you do this for another channel? A2: I've been thinking about that and wrote some code to make that possible. Let me know which channel you think would be a good fit!
@exacto0
@exacto0 Год назад
You havent a clue how much i enjoyed going through this list beginning to end
@bananafluffster
@bananafluffster Год назад
Lets pin this!
@brenthoskisson6979
@brenthoskisson6979 Год назад
You should include a section that is quotes from "The Raven" - Is there balm in gilead, truly truly I implore.
@Nukepositive
@Nukepositive Год назад
I'm a big fan of Lowko, and I'd really like to this applied to him. The fans have made a bingo game of his commentary, with phrases of his like, "smelling blood in the water," "slowly but surely," "on the other side of the map," and "science cannot explain."
@Joel-qo6gt
@Joel-qo6gt Год назад
good bot you get cookie 🍪
@kfr8601
@kfr8601 Год назад
Please never apologize for long videos they’re such a joy to watch
@BrooksMoses
@BrooksMoses Год назад
Simon! At 1:10:00, you were right about there being another way to get this set of deductions. With the 4 placed in row 3, you could have used the 24 sum to figure out that that r3c7 was a 6, which would give you the 6 in r2c6, which would have given you the rest of c6 from there -- basically getting the same information in the opposite order. Not necessarily a lot faster, but your intuition was indeed correct. I did see the 4 in box 1 a bit before you did, but I couldn't find that finish at all either. (Interestingly, I don't think the 819 line at the bottom is needed; by the time that was visible, your 4 in box 9 would have resolved the 14 pair in c5, which resolved the 16 pair in c3 that you used that line to resolve.) This was a fascinating puzzle!
@SilverEchoes
@SilverEchoes Год назад
Not only did we get the long-awaited "all kropki dots are given" rule with a grid completely devoid of dots, but we got it in the most beautiful way possible with the uncertainty of dots until the reveal at the very end. The resulting suspense and comedy were very entertaining. And then we got Simon's utter and baffled glee at the celebratory three in the corner! That brought a grin to my face and I had to rewind to watch the surprise over again. This installment of Cracking the Cryptic was a long solve with some tough spots in the middle, but the payoff at the end was sheer delight. Thank you so much, Sven, Simon, Full Deck, and Missing a Few Cards.
@Jodawo
@Jodawo Год назад
Sven is a genius! Now, Simon won't forget to do the song... LOL
@ericpraline1302
@ericpraline1302 Год назад
This unfolded beatifully. I guess the essential limitation of FoW is that you always know where to look, at the start at least, but this was quite testing for the genre.
@terracottapie
@terracottapie Год назад
I did this puzzle in 57 minutes on a train ride home, purely logically and without bifurcation. I didn't even find it too hard, except at a couple of points. It was like a free-flowing fun self-unfolding puzzle, the kind I really like a lot. So I couldn't believe it when I looked at the video length and saw that Simon took nearly a full hour longer than me. This is easily a record for beating the video solve time. I'm definitely gonna watch this and see what the snags were.
@stevesebzda570
@stevesebzda570 Год назад
VERY NICE [Actually my last digit placed was "3 in the corner."] I did a couple of times. Nice animation, Sven. Nice puzzle, Math Professors. 👍
@Yttria
@Yttria Год назад
Fantastic puzzle. Finished in about 2hrs.
@cdf007
@cdf007 Год назад
What a fun puzzle! The gradual unveiling adds a clever element to the variant genre. Not long into the puzzle I was pretty sure there were going to be no black dots... Just using the negative constraint was nicely minimalistic. Well done to the setters and to Sven for the great solving experience.
@d4r4butler74
@d4r4butler74 Год назад
YAY Sven!!! Thank you for the Celebration 3... maybe Simon & Mark won't miss them anymore.
@lisahd8117
@lisahd8117 8 месяцев назад
Long time watcher, first time screaming at my screen. Thank you so much for all you do on and around this channel.
@cherriespancakes
@cherriespancakes Год назад
It was such a fantastic puzzle! Very hard yet bizzarely approachable thanks to the fog railroading and the very consistent logic from one x-sum to the next. Didn't need help which i'm super proud of. Spoilers ahead : I KNEW when I read the rules there would be no kropki in the grid! I was so glad to be right! It's so cheeky it would be missed opportunity if it wasn't. I also aaawwed audibly at the little 🎉when the 3 appeared in the corner, such an adorable easter egg!
@bobblebardsley
@bobblebardsley Год назад
39:12 🐦 Once upon a springtime breezy, while I pondered, "Is this easy?" Over quite a quaint and curious fog-befuddled sudoku- While I grappled, never cheating, suddenly there came a greeting, As of something gently tweeting, tweeting from the yonder blue- "'Tis some visitor," I muttered, "fleeting by me with a clue-" Quoth the birdie "Doo-doo-doo."
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary Год назад
I think the birdie was chirping 2 2 2 - and it turns out he was right!
@bobblebardsley
@bobblebardsley Год назад
Ah, these ravens, rooks and robins, oft evoke from me a "Bobbins!" But I - very nearly sobbing - thought to ask him what he knew. Eagerly I wished the birdie;- vainly hoping he had heard me In a warble weak and wordy, "Could you lend to me a clue? "For the solve has gone absurdly and I don't know what to do." Quoth the birdie "Two-two-two!"
@Anne_Mahoney
@Anne_Mahoney Год назад
Nice parody!
@thithildeprouv8310
@thithildeprouv8310 Год назад
I love it when Simon sings ! You should do full covers
@nedb147
@nedb147 Год назад
I loved this, I can’t believe Simon didn’t take the opportunity to colour the modular lines, made the solve a lot more simple. The secret Easter egg was a joy. Kudos to Sven
@grahamrskelly6042
@grahamrskelly6042 Год назад
I appreciate the birthday wishes of this community and channel. Much love to everyone stay safe and happy solving.
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby Год назад
WOW ... I wouldn't normally even bother to attempt a puzzle that has taken Simon nearly 2 hours, but I thought I would give it a go, just for a laugh ... and ... it worked! Finished in just over an hour, with only one "accidental cheat" where I found that I had stuffed up because fog wasn't clearing. Extensive use of notepad and pencil 📝 to keep track of possible combinations. Fantastic puzzle 👍🏻👍🏻 and quite incredible that it can be solved with so little information at the start! Take a 🎀 and a 🏹!
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby Год назад
🗨 "That is not a 4. Definitely, it's not a 4". This is getting off to a good start...
@RichSmith77
@RichSmith77 Год назад
​@@stevieinselby 😂
@asktheraccoon
@asktheraccoon Год назад
Miracle Sudoku Simon would be blown away that this puzzle exists and that he's able to solve it.
@jamietherelentless2670
@jamietherelentless2670 Год назад
I love when Simon explains something and then misses it later and I get annoyed even though I would never have noticed it on my own
@steveamsp
@steveamsp Год назад
Sven: FTW! LOVE the effect on the 3 in the Corner
@jonhansen9622
@jonhansen9622 Год назад
What a great puzzle! Happy Birthday, MaFC! Fantastic solve, Simon!
@joekerr3638
@joekerr3638 Год назад
Loved the ending, perfect. Thank you Sven!!
@lumos-12
@lumos-12 Год назад
My time was around 2 hrs 10 minutes. Loved getting to help test this puzzle for Missing’s Birthday. Happy Birthday Missing!!!
@missingdeck9999
@missingdeck9999 Год назад
Thank you! -- MaFC
@nk0058
@nk0058 Год назад
There are few puzzles where I don't need a little guidance from Mark or Simon and I was apprehensive about the 2 hour length but I felt so accomplished finishing it in 60 minutes without having to constantly pause the video! And what a fun 3 in the corner at the very end of the puzzle
@Coyotek4
@Coyotek4 Год назад
51:21 ... math got me off to a strong start, and while I struggled a bit in the middle, I'm happy to have solved this one as quickly as I did. I gotta say, though, that I was NOT expecting ... . . ... that (1) there would not, in fact, be any dots in the actual grid, and (2) there *would* be a confetti party near the end! Wonderful puzzle!
@steveunderwood3683
@steveunderwood3683 Год назад
I thought something had gone wrong when I put my 3 in the corner, and things sprayed out. I had to think for a moment before I realised the significance.
@mery1973able
@mery1973able Год назад
This puzzle is a pure joy. Thak you so much FullDeck.... 🙂
@Anne_Mahoney
@Anne_Mahoney Год назад
Thank you, Simon (and Sally!), for the birthday greetings. I'd just served some cake when I heard my own name -- an unexpected delight. And the puzzle was amazing.
@Paul-cn3ij
@Paul-cn3ij Год назад
With a free afternoon ahead I thought I'd give this go and see how far I could get. Amazed to finish this in 45:54 without a single mistake and no need to watch the video. Started on row 1 and after a few minutes reduced the x sums to 5/6 in both cells and quickly proved there was only one combination that would work. So I think Simon starting in column 9 slowed him down. The other thing is I pencil mark like Mark so the negative restraint on 1-2 ratios sorted out a lot and that's not a Simon thing! Great puzzle and I must say quite proud to have done it so quickly in comparison to the master.
@justscrobbler1897
@justscrobbler1897 Год назад
I've never tried a puzzle with a video this long but I adore fog of war puzzles. Managed to actually finish in 47:07 much to my shock. Great solve path, broke in on the top row rather than where Simon did and relied heavily on the negative constraint.
@raysouth1952
@raysouth1952 Год назад
Don’t normally watch these long ones but I had small jobs to do so was able to come back from time to time. Glad I did. Loved that 3 in the corner!
@TurquoizeGoldscraper
@TurquoizeGoldscraper Год назад
I love fog puzzles, can't wait to try... (the video is ~2 hours long) ...I'll just watch Simon do it.
@RoselynTate
@RoselynTate Год назад
See, I had that thought too, but after watching him explain the rules I decided to give it a try myself, and managed to actually solve it! There are lots of little deductions to be made around the negative constraint, and you have to find the right place to look, but I don't think any of the individual steps are necessarily all that hard to figure out -- the hardest part is just someimtes figuring out where to look for the next deduction, which is kind of hilarious given that the reason I usually like fog of war puzzles is that they usually help guide your eyes to where you need to look next in the solve, lol
@ceevio_art
@ceevio_art Год назад
I used to be the same, but knowing Simon's penchant to take the most difficult route to solve puzzles, these days a long Simon video is just an invitation to beat his time - which wasn't too hard to do today. His refusal to pencil mark cells makes him waste so much time. There were naked singles all over the place today that he just never saw because of his elitist attiude to pencil marking.
@poppymcdermott837
@poppymcdermott837 Год назад
​@@ceevio_art hit the nail on the head. Simon could literally halve his time, probably more, if he would just pencil mark. It becomes convoluted for no reason.
@tangrybird04
@tangrybird04 Год назад
Omg I can’t believe I actually solved this! I opened the puzzle just to see how far I could get, thinking I wouldn’t actually finish it….but thing I’m most astonished about is I solved it in less time than the video length!!!! 1:33:16 ❤❤ Edit: I hate to say it but I’m going back on my solve and I ASSUMED there was no black dot between r8c2 and r9c2😮
@GrahamNicholson56
@GrahamNicholson56 Год назад
This took me over 2 hours to solve - and it was worth every minute of it! Clearing the first of the fog with the break-in was so satisfying. Thank you to the setters, Sven for the nice surprise and of course Simon.
@neokart2660
@neokart2660 Год назад
I put the three in the corner right at the end very satisfactorily. I'm new to watching videos on the channel, but I've never seen any recent ones, so I finally know why that curious three in the corner effect appears in the puzzles I solved, but not in the videos. Thanks for such good content.
@EelcoWind
@EelcoWind Год назад
45:29 for me, but I did use some paper to check which numbers could be used in the X-sums when the clock wasn't ticking yet. So in total around an hour, I think.
@laomedondardanos5658
@laomedondardanos5658 Год назад
At 1:08:55: "I think there must be an other way to notice it". You are right: I noticed it by looking for the 1/4/7 in C6 and notice that all are set (4 and 7 are known and the 1 need to be in R4 or R5) and like you argued before R2 C6 cant be 2/5/8, so I noticed it need to be from 3/6/9 and knew what it was. An other thing I noticed before was: In R6 we knew that 2/5/8 need to be in C3 and C5 and one of C7/C8, so R6 C4 could not be from this set and therefore the only place the third number of the 2/5/8 set in box 5 needs to go in R4 C4. It is an interesting constraint which is really hard to keep track off. I used coloring to help me a bit.
@RichSmith77
@RichSmith77 Год назад
I think also at that timestamp (1:08:55), the 24 x-sum in r3, the 1-7, 2-8 pairs always have to sum to 9. It's very similar to the situation he had already looked at in r1. 1 couldn't go next to 2, and if it was 7 with 8 you would already have 24 before adding r3c7. So they were either 1-8 or 7-2, summing to 9 either way. Making r3c7 a 6. (Which was another way to get the 6 in box 2.) The 1-7, 2-8 pair having to sum to 9 was a repeating theme. It also applied in c5 at one point, to give r2c5 =9.
@KittKattRED
@KittKattRED Год назад
This is magnificent. I love the fog mechanic and hope to see more!
@francoisduez601
@francoisduez601 Год назад
62:59 Fantastic puzzle! I found the break-in not so hard, but each step in the fog has to made very carefully so it still takes some time... And the end is a piece of magic! 😂
@th.nd.r
@th.nd.r Год назад
INCREDIBLE! Well set and well solved. Monstrous in a joyous way. And Sven with the absolute W on the 3 in the corner!
@Kinada
@Kinada Год назад
Holy crap I finished with 44 minutes on the clock! I saw how long the video was last night and thought, no way can I do this, watched the intro for the rules and paused. I ended up not having time to even watch the video so I closed it to watch tonight instead. I ended up not being able to sleep and spent that time lying awake thinking about the puzzle. I ended up solving the 27 clue in my head and limiting the other 3 clues by quite a bit and tonight decided to check my work in the puzzle before watching the video. Putting in what I came up with was correct and made the next step with the 24/26 clue interaction much more limited and most things after that seemed to flow rather nicely. I can't believe that I got such a time even with the extra time spent thinking about it when I should have been sleeping.
@davidmahoney9877
@davidmahoney9877 Год назад
Gentlemen, that was just this side of brutal. I feel no shame for my 2 hours 45 minutes. Realizing how, exactly, the modulus and sum rules worked together to force the x digits for the x sums was a very interesting break in. Brilliant puzzle. Stay Awesome
@rontyson7941
@rontyson7941 Год назад
Took me 4 and half hours but I was also watching tv the whole time. :P
@cgstreet08
@cgstreet08 Год назад
Great puzzle. 67:53 for me. Simon, you missed the naked 6 in box 2 at 48:48, which would have shaved about 20 minutes off your time. Candidates for r2c6 are 1,2,6,8. The 1 is on the modular line in column 6. The 4 in r1c6 rules out 2 and 8, leaving the 6. Then candidates for r3c6 are 1,2,8, but the modularity of r3c5 knocks out the 1, leaving a 2,8 , which sets the modularity of r3c7 and r3c8, and so on.
@CrazyIvanTR
@CrazyIvanTR Год назад
One of the rare times I was faster than Simon, my time is 01:19:15 but this puzzle is playing towards Simon's weaknesses :D After seeing the line is entropic and that every 3 connected cell on the line is divisible by 3 you have to appreciate that whenever there's a 4 on the x-sum clue's start that means the total is going to give a remainder of 1. The same applies to 6 as well, it will always give a remainder of 0 on an x-sum clue. So the only clue where 4 can go is with the 25 and the 26 clue cannot have a 6 or a 4, which means it has a 5. The 5 however can give a total that is divisible by 3 as in a combination of remainders 2-1-0-2-1 so it could go with 27 or 24 if allowed by the other digits on the board. (I got all this within like 2-3 minutes after reading the rules, of course I'm abysmal at normal sudoku and the last 3 rows took be like half an hour...)
@martinepstein9826
@martinepstein9826 Год назад
Wonderful puzzle. Each step is difficult but no step is monstrous. At the very end all you need to notice is that 4 and 8 can't be next to each other in row 7, hence one of them is in r7c2.
@sm3ttz
@sm3ttz Год назад
Simon,. you are a MASTER in explaining, no worries about that. So clever puzzle and clever solve.
@emilywilliams3237
@emilywilliams3237 Год назад
This was so very fun, your being bamboozled is never dull, your brilliance at making deductions and explaining your thinking - and your reaction to that confetti when the 3 in the corner was unveiled - so wonderful! Thank you, Simon.
@markp7262
@markp7262 Год назад
1:17:11 finish. I did color the different modulo sets, which helped me with the modulo, but then I missed the negative constraint for a while. But definitely a fun puzzle!
@drewskavich
@drewskavich Год назад
An amazing puzzle. A challenging solve. I'm glad I gave it a shot before watching the movie. I did get rightly stuck. Watched along until Simon unearthed a small bit of logic I'd missed and resumed solving. Got stuck again. Watched more of the proceedings. Got another nudge and was able to finish this beast. I then had to watch the remainder of Simon's quest.
@ronjohnson6916
@ronjohnson6916 Год назад
The 4 in box 1 was indeed available for a while. But I don't think it mattered much. I see why Simon prefers to keep his pencil marks as meaningful as possible -- it's just the way his mind works when grinding a tough puzzle.
@JasperJanssen
@JasperJanssen Год назад
It wasn’t just available, his pencil marks showed it as available; If nothing else, putting it in would have lifted a few squares of fog, although, granted, probably not much more. But if course you only know that it didn’t show much after said fog lifted…
@stangerrits6712
@stangerrits6712 Год назад
Quite a cringe to see him remove the pencil mark in R2C2, but not looking at the consequences
@ronjohnson6916
@ronjohnson6916 Год назад
Yes. But I'm used to grinding through dense pencil marks. It's almost the totality my toolkit on a puzzle like this. You can see Simon dismiss box 1 as being consequential several times. I think the number of pencil marks is a short form for "no weak squares here" to him. Whereas I am always, well I got something. Let's see if it leads to anything.
@LarkyLuna
@LarkyLuna Год назад
For people who aren't good at divisibility or have kids watching along, since the num pad is 3 by 3, all the column share the same number modulo 3
@AFT3RDAY5
@AFT3RDAY5 11 месяцев назад
I‘m starting to get a hang on this. This is the first time that I solved a great deal of the puzzle faster than Simon UNTIL I got stuck on the lower third 😅 Brilliant puzzle 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@demonduck132
@demonduck132 Год назад
Great job, Simon. I'm proud of you for persevering.
@krist39
@krist39 Год назад
This was such an amazing puzzle, I love the "all rules and almost no numbers" ones. Took me about 5 hours! Looking forward to watching this video tomorrow to see how you did it (too tired right now), but I'm guessing your start wasn't quite as exhausting. I actually spent an hour or two working on all the possible combinations before I realized that the remainder of the sum could be used to determine the value of X.
@CaptainSpock1701
@CaptainSpock1701 Год назад
18:42 - "OK, this is obvious. That is not a four" - If by "obvious" you mean that you totally lost me, then yeah. It is obvious!
@Adrian_Grey
@Adrian_Grey Год назад
Really proud of my time on this one: 56:27 I love the combination of the X-sums also being modular lines, very interesting logic there. And the kropki rule was clever, you can guess about halfway through that there won't be any dots, but you can't assume anything until the fog's been cleared. Loved it!
@rwthomas111
@rwthomas111 Год назад
Very excited to see a full length movie fog puzzle!
@fawful9992
@fawful9992 Год назад
I love how the rules mention black kropki dots and then the puzzle doesn't even have any.
@andrewjanssen8663
@andrewjanssen8663 Год назад
I was at 56:08 into the video when I had a moment of revelation and saw that r3c9 had to be 5: because r3c6 must have the same modularity as r3c9, and the only remainder 0 mod 3 number left in box 2 is 6, which would put two 6's in r3.
@brianarsuaga5008
@brianarsuaga5008 Год назад
I said in another comment that I was scared off by the video length, but I couldn't help myself. And I did it! Once again I'm really, really impressed by how the fog of war mechanic makes puzzles that would be VERY difficult EASIER by limiting your search space. Also, what a GORGEOUS puzzle with a funny twist that I was very suspicious of almost from the start.
@solfeinberg437
@solfeinberg437 Год назад
3 in the corner - almost the last number in. I thought It was saying - almost done - almost done. Had a little fountain of confetti!
@Tyranisaur
@Tyranisaur Год назад
In videos of the past the puzzle has had a ruleset where a constraint could have been worded in the same way as the black dot constraint in this puzzle, but were just given as a global constraint. But wording it it like this plays exceptionally well into the nature of the fog. Since there are negative constraints in play, discovering nothing when you clear the fog is useful.
@ABodyInProgress
@ABodyInProgress Год назад
1:20:30 - "There's so many tiny little deductions, it's so easy to overlook one of them" he says as he overlooks the only possible place for the 4 in Box 1.
@cotroneigiuseppe888
@cotroneigiuseppe888 Год назад
Damn it! The fog sudokus are always the most curious. I think that it takes a great immagination but, above all, a great logic skills!💪😛
@Hakucho64
@Hakucho64 Год назад
Took me forever, and needed some help from Simon, but I'm happy to at least have spotted the next step from the section around 1:48:50.
@jamesdonnelly9217
@jamesdonnelly9217 Год назад
I did this puzzle while stuck in an airport which gave me plenty of time to finish it one amazing deduction at a time. Not to spoil it too much, but there is a nice birthday surprise near the end of the solve.
@Bonehead777
@Bonehead777 Год назад
Lorks, you need nearly every sudoku trick in the book for this one, barring set theory and swordfish.
@brianroberts7096
@brianroberts7096 Год назад
Once Simon explained the rule set, I was up and running. Got stuck a couple of times until I remembered the negative dot rule. Had to watch the video once (just to check what I had done so far). To the point where Simon gave a big clue about the top row in box 3 adding to 18, then seemed to forget about it. Forgot to restart the clock, but was about 90 minutes. Waited until the end for 1 black dot to unwind everything, and was confused when it wasn't there. The 4(79)8 in box 7 took a bit of spotting. Loved the puzzle.
@windybeach2184
@windybeach2184 Год назад
I used the drawing tool to highlight the hidden modular lines, and colour coded the 3 digit sets. That made it much easier to visualise the patterns across the grid. It’s rare that I beat Simon at a puzzle, so this was very enjoyable!
@osirusbrisbane2305
@osirusbrisbane2305 Год назад
Tough puzzle, but it was worth the length to see through such a cool fog puzzle -- plus the party 3!
@trisha2584
@trisha2584 Год назад
I learnt so much from this video; thank you Simon for the video and thank you Missing Deck and Full Deck for producing such a puzzle. Happy Birthday Missing Deck.
@missingdeck9999
@missingdeck9999 Год назад
Thank you for the kind words!
@mtmcdougall7097
@mtmcdougall7097 Год назад
I loved that 3 in the corner graphic, great touch from the software.
@buggy879
@buggy879 Год назад
As soon as I did the Puzzle I put 3s in all corners too see if it would trigger in all corners and it did.
@UnGeekCommeUnAutre
@UnGeekCommeUnAutre Год назад
Congratz! This one I would not have been able to solve for sure. Well done.
@StarClan4evr
@StarClan4evr Год назад
Solved this one all my own! In only about 3 hours too! Remarkable puzzle, the fact that *spoilers* there wasn't ever a single black dot in the puzzle really got a smile out of me. That 1:2 ratio negative restraint pretty much sets a good 80% of the puzzle, it's really nice. And the fact that this puzzle ends with a 3 in the corner is a very welcome sight. This puzzle had such a wonderful ruleset and kept me excited to play more the whole time, one of my new all time favorites. A grand recommendation by me, and happy birthday Missing a Few Cards, marvelous work :D
@missingdeck9999
@missingdeck9999 Год назад
Thank you so much for the kind words and birthday wishes!
@jameshornback8602
@jameshornback8602 Год назад
I took the step you took at 1:47:32 a little further an noted that If R7C3 was 3 then both R8C6 and R9C7 were also 3. By the logic you pointed out R8C3 would have to be 1 so R9C3 had to be 6 therefore R9C8 would be a 5 making R8C8 a 6 and placing a 3 and a 6 on the line. Meaning R7C3 could not be a 3. Then the rest of the solve came pretty quickly as the rest of the puzzle fell apart.
@DMPearson91
@DMPearson91 Год назад
respect for the commitment and uploading the whole thing in its full raw recording
@Nevir202
@Nevir202 Год назад
1:42:49 it's at this point, I'm seeing, everything comes down to where 8 can go in r7. If it's in c2, then 8 is there, and if it's in the only other option, c6, then 4 is there in c2. So that cell is always 4 or 8, and that forces r8,c2 to be 7,9 which places 4 in box 9. That loops back around and solves the 4,8 placement in r7. EDIT: As usual, he came to the same conclusion by FAR more complicated means lol.
@RichSmith77
@RichSmith77 Год назад
Agreed. I viewed it as "where can 4 and 8 go in r7, remembering they cannot go next to each other without a black dot". One had to go in r7c2. Boils down to the same thing. 👍
@mewmewmew12
@mewmewmew12 Год назад
A sudoku has never been more aptly titled
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