The Downfall of Britain: Every Day - Alternate History 

he hoped for communist, he found angry depressive grumpy but friendly frenchman, god what a shock

@Anonymer Nutzer what ?

@Anonymer Nutzer missed the joke entirely

“What does France mean? An Eurasian newspeak word for hostile??”

I think that would make for a interesting short story. The man defects to what he thought was Eurasia, but the French are trying to tell him there is no Eurasia, even showing them a map of the world, seeing Oceania is just the one British island he lived on, and over the course of the story he begins to slowly realize how deep Oceanias propaganda went.

Julia didn't believe the war was real, and Goldstein's book itself stated the possibility that the whole war was false but that it was immaterial to the programme of control the Party had established. A dictatorship such as that of the Party would be far easier to manage in one wholly self-contained island from which the rest of the world could be shut out rather than a sprawling global empire, particularly if there is no central government as such but rather a system pinned to the ideological dominion of Ingsoc to which all members of the Party are inculcated, in much the same manner as the medieval Catholic Church; with administrative control split between various zones of Airstrip One and the ministries, as with the rulership of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia during the 1970s. The "war" could easily be the result of infighting between the zonal administrators each attempting to bring about the victory of their "pure" form of Ingsoc, as was the case in Cambodia. Meanwhile, it is in the interest of the Party as a whole regardless of any interfactional rivalries there may be to maintain the fiction of a global war and a large cohesive empire under the semi-divine rulership of Big Brother, the reign of ideological absolutism and police terror over the populace and Party membership, and the propaganda of endless fulfillments of production quotas that themselves are likely pure invention. If Oceania is nothing but the self-contained island of Britain which has effectively shut itself off from the outside world, then any perversion of reality can be practised within and the population would know nothing about it. If an atomic war had actually occurred in 1950, using the relatively small arsenals of low-grade fission weapons then available, it is possible that Britain was one of the few surviving areas of organised civilisation left in a damaged world lacking in global communication and trade, which would mean that effectively there is no outside world any longer, at least not in the form it had existed at prior to the dropping of the Bombs, and the Party can claim anything it damn well pleases.

It makes Oceania sound like a second North Korea

@Silver Allaway True, Oceania is a hell of a hellscape, Pol Pot would clapped his hand for eternity

In the book everyone was british and the people who were broadcast as criminals were british if they did occupy america and australia they'd be a far more richer country with diverse english speaking people with Australian and american accent the bombs that were launched were probably from surrounding nations trying to liberate the people of britain.

In the book, Orwell wrote, that Winston had seen a photo, that had been taken in New York, and it had shown three members of the Party, who had been on an assembly there. However, we all know, that the Ministry of Thruth fakes everything, so we can't say anything for sure.

He is 39 in the book because he was born in 1945 and he will be 58 by the time of this happens.

@@lorddoctor-4893 Dude... Did you guys even read the book?He dies like 1986 or something like that.They execute him in the coridor.

@@janzizka8922 I don't think so.

@@lorddoctor-4893 Obrien tells Winston : Everyone who get brainwashed will released first to confess and then execute by party after the speech.Please go and read the book.

@@janzizka8922 Maybe that is true in the book, but in the movie Winston lived.

An Oceanian citizen would have their own POV of 1984, Except… they’re against a much better world than the one they want.

Not to mention technological backwardness of Oceania itself. In the book it's stated, that their technology is mostly on 1940s level. For every oceanian citizen it would be like time-traveling 50 years into the future

The population would be being told this is a Eurasian trick

​@@TheRepublicOfDixionconderogaOr Eastasian.

@@TheRepublicOfDixionconderoga but then how long will that stick until NATO's completely destroyed the Party?

more like Eurasia

@@newstartyt3700 Oh yeah my bad

It switches every few years

@@TheRepublicOfDixionconderogayeah but Eastasia wouldn’t be attacking Airforce 1

@@nightmarexgaming120 it is airstrip 1

Oceanians

Well… the Party would be enraged. The proles would probably be either relieved since a lot of them are old enough to remember the times before Oceania, or they’ll be indifferent so long as their lotteries and sports and whatnot went on uninterrupted since that’s (allegedly) all they care about. Remember, proles make up 85% of Oceania’s population and they’re the ones the Party doesn’t really care much about (aside from the few who think too much). The Party people are the ones you really have to watch out for since they’re the indoctrinated ones

Not unless you have a heavy weapon they haven't seen before

just give iphones to the proles and they'd be fine. its only the outer party that would put up signifcant resistence

@@starleigh6680 true. I forgot about that

This video is simply a doubleplusungood lie from Eastasia. We always have been at war with Eastasia. We always have been allies with Eurasia.

@@Airbiscuitmaker You Use Oldspeak 17. Newspeak 37 Word Movesee 2plusungood Untrue Word Eastasia, We alltime unpeace Eastasia, We alltime friend Eurasia.

Well we don't know if Oceania told the truth about their power and their control over the world! It's just like north Korea! According to north Korean propegand north Korea in best country in the world and there is a famine in the south wich is a lie.

Sounds like the Tory party manifesto vs reality.

@@alezacrespublik6655 Remember, The Party, Quadruplesquarv Movespeakpraktikum Rightleftignore Sstrokt Uoupta Hw jo kkx Jdnsjak Ehrasia is always at war with Oceania, Oceania is always at war with Eastaage, 2+2=21, Humongous Male Sibling is continuously witnessing

The Party does not have actual care for the people. They just use them as propaganda tools to allow their regime to continue. And in wars, they will use them to help their nation through any means possible, even if it means suicide for them, although, that is something more of what Eastasia would do.

Well honestly they would make it seem like East Asia is attacking and nuking them rather then the party attacking its own country because it's being attacked by Europe.

That's the thing lad. Yes, you can find logic in it. However one that goes against common sense. The government, who are supposed to help their citizens, brutally anihilate millions of their own to "defend against the enemy". INGSOC murders en masse their people, in order to save themselves. It is idiotic. :( ​@@AssassinIsAfk

@Sultanate of Rûm [HD] wasn't easta- *thought police breaks in*

It’s more East Asian propaganda because in this scenario Eurasia doesn’t exist on the map

@@leafbou Elo!

lol

Negative. This is doubleplus ungood propagandestic lies from Eastasia. We and the People of Eurasia are and always have been allies.

Some people have a theory that it’s just london, and the endless war is actually the Oceanian revolt against the uk

Mine was that: after ww3 every nations was obliterated by nuclear hell fire, the uk was devastated and in ruins. Almost every city gone with but ultimately survived do to being nuked far less than most countires. The extreme trauma caused by the war resulted in the foundation of ingsoc and there web of lies constructed to maintain order in a post M.A.D. barren wasteland of a world. The people listened to the parties "truth" because it was easier to believe in the war between the three nations than to except the fact that everything they knew was gone. And that everyone outside of oceania(airstrip 1) was dead.

@@epsilonarcaneresearch1945one crazy theory I have is that ww2 unlike it our timeline was much more catastrophic and more people died, Oceania got in charge after World War 2 when the axis wins “Eurasia” as actually a nazi empire and Oceania is stopping the truth because they know its citizens can’t handle it, there isn’t much to prove it but it’s cool to think about

@@epsilonarcaneresearch1945 There is still land outside Britain with human life, given that things like chocolate are imported, but yeah it’s very likely the whole world is just too weak to do anything about British ships just stealing whatever scraps they can and taking it home

@@epsilonarcaneresearch1945Thats basically Panem in the hunger games

@@levthemapperxd no typo there

I feel like they would also go into exile in there other overseas territories, like Gibraltar, the Cayman Islands, the British Virgin Islands, Bermuda, The Falklands and Anguilla.

the UK in this scenario is basically the free france/taiwan of the modern world, a nation stripped of its homeland, left with its overseas territories (albeit they're all very small)

Maybe, but Oceania has no way of exerting influence outside of the British Isles. If an Eastasia existed, Oceania wouldn't be able to fight it in any capacity.

Actually the warsaw pact would have been Eurasia due to both being communist

@@NoTuProduzioni Eurasia isn't exactly communist. However, one thing that you can say about it is that it's right across the English Channel. This description fits NATO perfectly. Of course, there's the thing with the whole Equatorial Front and all that.

@@deleetiusproductions3497 yeah in the book it never really goes into detail about Eurasias political ideology so they could be anything really

@@baldrickthedungspreader3107 All the book says is that all the 3 superpowers have a very similar government to Oceania, so NATO or the Warsaw Pact are both right, because Oceania calls itself a democracy while also being a totalitarian state.

So uhhh Good ending? Las Malvinas son argentinas?

I think its possible the USA would gets involved as Britain can’t afford to loose more land

@@doucca8116 no, bad ending. But at least the bad ending is fiction

No,US would annex Falklands

@@doucca8116 It would be horrible if the natives would be invaded by the argentine horde :(

Except in this case, NATO had all the resources, air and naval superiority it could ever want to sustain an invasion of Britain, since if Oceania even had a navy to speak of, we never heard about it in the books. The reason nobody has been able to successfully invade Britain since William the Conqueror is because of Britain's gigantic fucking navy that they used to deter any kind of invasion of the Home Islands whatsoever. Meanwhile here, we have absolutely no idea what the naval capabilities of Oceania are, and if this video's theory is right, that Oceania is just basically a hermit kingdom in the British Isles fighting an endless war against Irish nationalists, then their capabilities as a naval power are probably shit. NATO, on the other hand, with the US leading it, has probably the single largest navy in the world, and would be easily capable of annihilating whatever meager naval forces the Oceanians can muster, and most likely could support a naval invasion of the British Isles. Would it be easy? Definitely not. Even in real life, the D-Day landings were a practical miracle, what with logistical issues and poor weather. And that included naval and air superiority and 4 years of naval experience against the Japanese. But it IS possible. So, yeah.

I love how this dude made a joke and this other guy wrote a novel about how he is wrong

@@Skywarslord that's youtube in a nutshell

Well, it's also the same thing as what Napoleon planned. And what was planned by France and Spain during the American Revolutionary War. As well, France planned such an invasion during the Seven Years' War. And the Austrian War of Succession. Also, the Spanish War of Succession. And that's just what happened after 1700.

@@Niceguy312373636 more like social media in a nutshell

Speaking about the territories, as I remember, Goldstein wrote that Oceania is actually a federation or even a military union with large autonomy for countries which it consists of. It makes sense for me, it's easier to control such territories if you don't have to solve every problem in every small place. So, Oceania may control over that much land in theory

@@teneclarusslavicus5390 But in practice… they only completely own the British Isles!

@@orrorsaness5942, I don't think so. Nothing tells about it in the book

Plus, when you have populations like that of the former United States and Latin America, which are known to be fiercely independent and hostile to outsiders, it makes it even more unlikely that Oceania could keep control over that much land and people. At best Oceania could control the Dominions, but even that seems unlikely, given how Britain in our timeline had practically given the Dominions independence in all but name before WW2 even began.

So, the book Winston read was also coontainig false information?

Indeed

Pol Pot, curiously enough, even compared to an American president, was shy to the point he could tolerate no cult of his personality. He also lived in a house organized exactly like a buddhist temple (no furniture besides floor mats to sleep and sit) minus the religion. More and more researchers are now coming to the conclusion that he governed absolutely nothing and that the killings were done by the same American-trained thugs who had started them under the American occupation. Many Cambodians remember the Khmer Rouge proper as the less corrupt rulers they had but that they never had the real power and that the deaths were due to attacks of pro-US forest bandits.

@@MrMirville Can you please provide a source for this?

@@braedanquigley7500 "Trust me bro" the Khmer Rouge only rose to power because of Lon Nol, who favored the US and allowed the secret bombing of Cambodia, couped Sihanouk, which in turn led to Sihanouk endorsing the Khmet Rouge thinking he could somehow get his throne back from communists of all ppl, not to mention the North Vietnamese invasion and support for the Khmer Rouge. Man desperately wanted to claim his government isn't just the cheap version of Ingsoc and pins it all on the US. Also about Pol Pot's house, he literally adopted the Silver Pagoda as his main residence, *a place usually used for royal ceremonies,* like seriously, living like a buddhist ??? About him not wanting a cult of personality, literally, just go to the former S-21, *there's literally a bust of him there, in anticipation for a cult of personality.* Aight, here's the sauces: - Khmer Rouge's rise to power: the Cambodian Civil War, pick your source, there's a lot, though Wikipedia is a start - Pol Pot's residence: "Pol Pot: The History of a Nightmare" - Pol Pot's cult of personality: "Brother Number One, A Political Biography of Pol Pot"

In the killings, yes, but in the actual propaganda, it would definitely be North Korea.

That's an intriguing thought - one I have had myself. A world in chaos following multiple wars, and a group of fanatics seize power. What becomes Oceania is isolated from the rest of the world, fearful and paranoid of enemies within and without.

No it says in the video it is only great britain (Thought it is just a theory).

We dont knoe exact time of the revolution. Probably between 1945-1955

@@levthemapperxd You idiot, Oceania totally controlled a vast global empire and definitely wasn't just confined to the British Isles. What a crazy theory, right?

@CoolHenry22 NOOOOOOO

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i thought they controlled the entire and the war is fake

Irish culture has probably been exterminated by decades of Oceanian rule except for areas controlled by the Free Army, and replaced with the all encompassing culture of Oceania

NATO would have probably threatened the Irish Republic with refusal to help with occupation if they refused the joint-occupation Zone.

NATO sent lots of soldiers in ireland to the Irish Free Army, they could use those soldiers to assault and occupy important buildings, such as the headquarters, airports, ports, bases, government office, train stations and more to force the government of the Irish Free Army to not claim northern ireland.

​​@@empireofyoutube7487the thing is why WOULD they, like clearly the British and Oceanian due to brainwashing are absurdly differant The Northern irland wouldnt be english or Irish it would be Oceanians, just as brainwashed as the rest after 50 years with a more and more dumbed down language. Tis not as if the United Kingdom weak as they would be would be in a position to contest based on the fact that they are englishmen. They arent anymore, but they are still on the Island of Ireland, fairly sure the UK would only exist artificially too since Gaelic would be dead, Old Irish probably too based on the fact that Angsoc probably went after them due to them having knowlege of another language too far from newspeak or even oldspeak. Welsh cornish and Mann died too, so really Scotland England Wales Cornwall wouldnt even have much of a culture left, only the geographical reminder, hell even english culture would be dead. And Ireland itself would be so damaged between the millions dead, the brainwashing of whoever is left in Oceanian occupation zone as the liberation army was left to die by Nato due to cold war it seems, or barely kept alive in isolated regions, that it would take decades just to recover whats left of its own culture after 50 years of total war destroying its very identity too, they just have a slightly better chance at actually recovering. (Wait just realised that means Breton would be the last remaining true celtic language and culture left in the world because of Angsoc, oh rip)

The IFA is allied to NATO, meaning at least for now they follow the British claim for the territory, it's likely that after the war and as a thanks for the help, the UK government would cede the territory

Tank you!

Yes please

* Newspeak babbling with bri´ish accent intensifies *

@@B0B0BI The thought is actually kind of terrifying. By 1984 they were on the 10th edition of Newspeak and had cut down on many words and seemed to be planning to fully implement it as the sole language in Oceania. This is in 2001 so by then these soldiers could be walking into a country where people can only speak about six words and are completely braindead.

​@@toranziancentralnetwork They claimed everyone would be speaking only Newspeak by 2050, probably semi accurate. I assume they'd find slaves so thoroughly broken that an entire nation needs therapy for decades.

Yes it would be the uk because the ik still exists in the Scottish islands and channel islands

Royal family probably fled to Canada or another former colony and came back to rule britain

@@mrsub2023 The Royal Family running away to Africa to bless the rains be like…

@@mrsub2023 Tbh I dont think so. The people of Britain probably wouldnt want such a monarch.

Maybe the royal family escaped to Canada and is still ruling the other Commonwealth realms like in our world? Maybe after a decades of re education and rebuilding Great Britain maybe a referendum on the form of government might be held.

But the leadership of Oceania is not stupid and attacking the USA and NATO would be suicidal. Also France is in NATO so it would be at war with France if it was at war with the USA

I can see the usa and other countries sending aid to the irish free army in order to defeat oceania because no government in their right mind would allow a country like oceania to exist

in the world of 1984 there is nothing to evolve from. The world is in a constant state of war for the equatorial front and always will be

Thank you for your comment!

Why dont you change your name?

Your actually called Trotsky?

@@baldrickthedungspreader3107 i think he change his youtube name

You have been accused of thought crime and have been sentenced to death.

Thanks!

I read Orwell's classic about a year and a half ago, and I'd have to agree. The story is told entirely in the first-person style, and the narrator (Winston) never leaves Great Britain... this scenario IS entirely within the realm of possibility.

Then, Goldstein would be a refugee in the USSR

Kaiserreich/redux?

@@Tseufars Yeah

eh, i do not believe that is what happened, it would be nigh on impossible

No, the population would stick to Ingsoc as to a religion even when they had lost all battles. The occupying powers would let them stew in their own juice and use them as cheap labour and cannon fodder. Worse : they would remember the years of totalitarianism as the most prosperous ever, a golden age of the kind you could only wait for to return after millennia. Ingsoc would be a subject of interest in universities like Zen buddhism.

@@MrMirville Ingsoc exists purely so the ruling class can torture and oppress people for fun. There's no ideology behind it. It's also extremely vulnerable, to the point where even a single hint of dissidence must be crushed to maintain the system. Reality going directly opposite party doctrine would cause the system to completely collapse, no matter how much doublethink is used

The theory in this video is that the party completely rewrote history, including the nuclear war and everything.

@@nubo3517 Winston remembers the nuclear war, it is definitely fact and not something the party made up. It'd also be impossible for such a regime to even come to power without a massive disaster

@@socialaccount1421 It's possible that what Winston was "remembering" was just doublethink. Also, there could be other disasters, other than a nuclear war, that causes revolution.

My favourite is they aren’t even in the British isles but the date controls so much that people would know weather it’s true or not

Eastasia is Wales Eurasia is Scotland and northern England Oceania is the Midlands, Kent, and East Anglia Fighting occurs in the disputed regions of Northumberland and Cornwall

actually it has truly happened IRL. It happened in bangaladesh due to the genocide there, as pakistan killed everyone who was educated, whilist also trying to kill everyone else, and it ended due to an Indian intervention. Bangaladesh is partly so poor today because of the fact that there was literal to no educated people left in the country due to what pakistan did, essentially a brain extermination. What Oceania controlled would suffer a similar fate...

@@burger_person115 So what you’re saying is that if someone in Oceania knew about the lifestyle of the democratic outside world, they would be killed?

@@jeff_theepic1011 not just killed. They are gaslighted into believing that they were wrong, later they are willingfully admit to crimes against oceania that they never commited and just were convinced they commited and then secretly executed a couple years later.

Ya

@@thehetmanmapping1434 oof, that blows. It’s ridiculous that YT has to do that

Someone leave a link for the two beginning songs

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No, it actually makes the totalitarianism even stronger. The Book Goldstein wrote? Αctually wrote by ingsoc Borders? Completely fabricated by ingsoc

He don't exist, Goldstein said that himself and I'm pretty sure that he's one of the internals party members

If he actually was real, Imagine the absolute rage of the Oceanian population once they hear that Big Brother was killed by -Eurasian- NATO troops

Heh, yeah.

Bruh

Bruh

Unlisted it as I don't want that garbage ideology on my channel. Here's the unlisted link if you want it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HjFJfEcla2c.html

> Quick question > Explain everything Lmao. Just get paint. net, a blank map template and start making frames. After, merge the clips in en editing software and you're done. That's all there is to it.

@@thehetmanmapping1434 okay thank you

Used it in my most recent video. The trick is to edit the numbers in while in one's video editing software, not when the frames are being made. That way, a lot of time is saved