The Downfall of the Mexican National Team 

Why is it that almost every Mexican outlet loves to cover the “what if” story. We knew Alexis could’ve gone to Europe but we all know why he didn’t. This is one of the reasons Mexico is where it is. Too concentrated on the past and caught up in the obsession of old rumors

The only reason why we suck is because of the Mexican federation that is so corrupt not allowing us call up youth players to the senior squad to allow to develop players that’s why we suck we do have prospecting youth players it’s just they go un noticed and when we do give younger players a chance they don’t get any minutes to even our best player Santi gimenez is treated horribly I he should always be the starter and it’s not fair to him how Mexico treats him

1. Limit the number of foreigners in LigaMx. 2. Improve youth player development. 3. Leagues Cup is a better metric of MLS vs LigaMx as it is in the middle of the MLS season.

As a US fan, Mexico’s mentality is one of the big reasons why they are where they are currently. When your best talent is reportedly unprofessional, then you have big issues. The mentality of the fanbase is also a problem. They still buyout the product that’s on the field

First time viewer that has nothing to do with México, a very informative and very well edited essay that I didn’t know needed to know, but liked watching all the way. Lemme just… hit… that..subscri- yeah there we go. Much love from germany amigo:]

I missed the part about telerisa and how azcarraga family has the national team by the neck.. And only alloweds players from america play Also bring back copa mx and let the 3rd division and 2nd division participated in copa mx screw the leagues cup... Bring 20 or 22 teams to the first division.. Relegate the 3 worst team each season.. And also they should stop about the certification of the Stadium ... Have ppl even seen the tigres stadium or pumas stadium.. They are really in bad conditions All they care is about the money and not the fans or team i know this sport is a business but come on at least they should hide they real colors

I doubt mexico changes until a second co concacaf teams consistently beats them. Can jamaica be that teamidk

The federation is controlled by Televisa & sponsors, who control who plays in the national team. That’s why Raul Jimenez went to the WC while still not being fully recovered because he came through America which had rights from Televisa.

USA has been the dominant team since 2000 they have won more games USA has a record of 19-8-9. W-D-L

Just be a USMNT fan you’ll be alright

Mexico's problem is allowing too many foreigners into their clubs, nepotism, and greed. Every team in Mexico has 9 out of 11 players from Columbia, Ecuador, Argentina, Peru, Chile, and Uruguay, those players block young talent from getting a spot and because the foreigners are a cheaper low-risk investment, so teams don't bother bringing up good talent because it's too much work and effort. Also, because of a lot of nepotism, players that don't deserve to be there get through to clubs and the national team and block other youth talents. Worst of all, what little talent gets through is often ignored for the sake of keeping players like Ochoa on the squad, Ochoa bring in way more money from sponsors and fans because he is more famous than players like Malagon so it is crucial for the money that Ochoa is there and in goal. Those problems stunt growth, produce shit, and throw out what little goods there are to the wastesides.

As an American, I've extended my branch from "I want the USA to win a World Cup" into "I want a North American team to win a World Cup." The USA is the best team right now, but in terms of natural talent and love for the game, Mexico is our best hope.

It's pretty funny how Ochoa lovers always say "See, we told you so. We need Ochoa" when we lose or "See how it isn't Ochoa's fault?" but in reality we're playing catch up of all these years we could have benefited from having a younger goal keeper to gain experience. Maybe it isn't Ochoa's fault that we sometimes call some of the worst, most uncoordinated defenders but it is Ochoa's fault that he's not willing to step down so younger keepers can gain more confidence by playing both big and small games. I know that he himself suffered a long time when conejo Perez kept getting called and he would have to sit on the bench but he should be the first person to know how that feels! He needs to break the cycle, not keep it going!

On Henry Martín, the US made him look like a jobber, straight up garbage. On the US side, what the US has decided to do is develop talent and sell it to Europe, an example would be the Chicago Fire sold their outstanding goalkeeper to Chelsea and with that money bought Shaqiri. Liga MX in my opinion, should do that, develop players and sell them and get money. Number 2 the federation needs to do what Germany did during the 90s and 00s in order to compete with the rest of the world. A good video I recommend is HITC seven's video on México as well.

As a USMNT supporter, I agree with everything you said. I hate that MLS don't have and will never have relegation

Great Video! Subbed

The problem is that Liga MX is trying to be the MLS, by making it a closed league (no pro/rel) and the expansion of liguilla (just like the MLS playoffs expanded)

We just don't evolve and we are still depeneding on memo to save us when his best days are behind him the level of mexican futbol has just dropped in general atleast its what it feels like i always think of our old squad with players like oswaldo sanchez,torrado,rafa marquez,osorio,salcido,omar bravo,jared borgetti,ramon morales,pavel pardo,andres guardado,arellano,bofo bautista,palacios just to name a few.

Very good video. I’m a USA fan, but a rivalry is only good when it is competitive, and for the past five years it hasn’t been. Hope Mexican football can sort out its issues, it’s bonkers that they’ve never even made the semis of a World Cup. Biggest underachievers in world football history by far

One of my favorite thing to do in Mexico is play soccer over there and see all the talented ballers they have , its sad to see the S/hit players we send to the world cup with all the talent they really have

Also not playing Copa libertadores plays a big role on our downfall

There’s many reasons why Mexico doesn’t have many good players left. First one, There’s too many foreign players in liga Mx that are old which prevent Mexican youngsters from playing. Last night, a the golden boot winner from the u17 gold cup debuted with a goal. That spot was originally given to an old washed up foreigner. Second, the managers don’t want Mexicans to leave to Europe and instead they send their own to Europe. For example, the Pachuca coach said that he’s aware that Erick Sanchez is a go to player for Mexico and that he doesn’t want to let go of him. The pumas coach said that he too doesn’t want to let go of Huerta because of his potential and his ability to play well. The foreign coaches hold them back which leads to less skilled players for the Mexican national team. Third, the bottom tier teams got rid of promotion and relegation which lead to liga Mx’s quality to go down by a lot. Back then Mexico could grab a squad of Mexicans that mainly played in liga Mx along with two that played in Europe and reach 2nd place in copa America. Now, the team struggles to play against its own in CONCACAF and Uzbekistan or Australia. Fourth, the FMF sees Mexico as a product to make cash, yes it’s been a thing for a while but now it’s worse. Most players that get called up are either heavily sponsored or forced upon that come from or are in club America. Some of them deserve the spot but others don’t and it just makes the team worse. There’s like 5 that don’t deserve the spot and still get started. My family has always told me that televisa(owned by the same guy that owns club America) forced players into the nations team. Coaches have come out and said that players were force onto the team. the fans keep going to the games. They just keep going and the FMF makes more money off of dollars than cash. Mexico is the only team that doesn’t play home games unless they are qualifiers or when they host but that happens every ten games. Hopefully Mexico gets back to where it was because right now we have many youngsters in Europe that probably won’t be ready to play until 2026 or 2030. It would be a miracle if they do reach their main teams in Europe.

Mexico is gonna have another horrible World Cup in 2026, hope that motivates them to do better on forward

Truthfully I use the the Mexican national team and Liga MX as an example of why I do not want to keep the US’s best talent in MLS. Liga MX club owners did everything in their power to prevent the exportation of talent to Europe the team has gotten worse. First off Mexico’s best talent doesn’t get face top notch players till a international tournament. Secondly how many U17 top players spend their early 20’s riding the bench in Liga MX? A lot.

Welp we got the humiliation defeat from Uruguay happened. I am so pissed off, even my DAD is pissed off the most. Me and my dad mostly talk about how much we miss the old days of Mexico pre 2016 especially LigaMX. I can’t blame my Dad since he is a PUMAS super fan and keeps saying he misses a lot of the old days. Now we are watching more of the Premier League of England and it is COMPLETELY NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENCE. We are so engaged of the matches they have, especially the system they used, and we are so entertained by really good players. Which LigaMX should’ve done everything what the premier league does. It’s so frustrating that our favorite national fallen off hard and we can’t bear to see it again. I hope changes will happen, like the get rid of the corrupted higher ups of the federation and change the whole system.

I was legit having this convo with a buddy of mine. I had no idea liga MX was paying these guys these crazy figures.

You should make a full video why liga mx teams are more competive in concacaf champions league than mls teams

HAD HOPE FOR THIS TEAM FROM WATCHING THE PAST GAMES BUT ONCE AGAIN THEY DISSAPOINTED ME I STILL HAVE HOPE FOR EM BUT I KNOW THEY AINT PERFECT ALOT TOO WORK ON ESPEICALLY FROM THE HIGHER UPS

I would also add lowering the limit of forgen players in Liga MX so young Mexican players can have a chance to play

I went back and read the comments on 2019 3-0 mexico win. My how the tables have turned

Mexican football has been on a slow decline ever since 1999. Even though things got rough especially on the road to Brazil, there was always hope from the fans. But at Qatar, it was deader than hell. Even now that the world cup is back in Mexico there really isnt any feeling or expecation from the fans. USA has way better odds of becoming champions than Mexico does nowadays

The 2022 world cup was managed by a fan of messi in Mexican team

Bro the problem isn’t just logs MX and the federation. It’s that you guys don’t send younger players to other leagues as well. Not to top off how the Mexican Federation is corrupt and the coaches don’t ever get enough time to train or help the players before they get replaced or fired. This is actually why the US is getting younger n younger talent, as the MLS works with their young talent to export them into prime leagues like Germany, England or even France.

Liga mx needs to be a league that could be just interesting like uefa because theu got foreign players from south america

Shit at this rate, Mexican soccer won't even have LigaMX over MLS at the rate that talent is raising in MLS lmao. The US has always been clowned on by many countries, especially Mexico, but football was never taken seriously in the US up until the past decade or so really and in that decade, theyve grown so much past Mexico that it's crazy. You'd think with how passionate the people of Mexico is, that there might be a ton of talent pouring out from there but their just isn't. Unless major changes happen soon, the US-Mexico rivalry is going to continue being extremely one sided.

7:27 Tbf the bottom 3 teams have to pay a fine

Mexico has a lot of soccer talents, even in the US, but soccer is not only emotional and talent driven, but also should be directed to the right goal. Currently, Mexico has no direction, no talents, and majority of the players are for themselves.

In my opinion, Liga MX have been importing South American players since 2000 and relegrates native players' playing time. Have you notice that Liga MX topscorer sheet every season in the last 20 years have been loaded by South American players?

With the right coach Mexico can compete against anyone. WITH Liga MX players. But Jimmy is NOT the right coach, also locking up out youth talent (not letting them play), over paying players, and not playing youth player is not help either. 100% we have some of the best youth academies, but the development stops at the senior side. Mexico doesn't need to send players to away IF they're bringing top talent to Mexico. EASILY Liga Mx can be the next Eredivise if they focused on the youth and brought in players like Oussama Idrissi. Still, there is no excuse to why Mexico can't beat US. Personally I think Mexico only ever played good under El Piojo. Mexicans are short and quick. We are MADE for quick counters. We have never been good at possession football, and we struggle all the time against teams that park the bus.

The fact that european clubs are being outspent by local teams just shows how healthy they league is.

Not really much of a downfall. Mexico has never been world class.

As an American I agree with everything you've said. As much as I hate to say it, it's kind of sad to see the decline of Mexico's National scene as they were always fun to watch. I was definitely hoping they would do better in the 2018 world cup than they did. I was hoping they would go through to the round of 16 so I could see a North American team competing against the giants.

Is over for Mexico as the king of Concacaf. They have a significant losing record against the USA since 2000.

Relegation is dumb. Because Veracruz atlante etc will only bring in more foreign players that will not benefit the future young players, specifically when they are under pressure to getting relegating. Chivas and atlas for example will probably suffer the most and both clubs have good youth academy’s.

Im 100% american. I support the US but there’s SO many problems with mexico that it’s gotten to a point where it’s just lowkey saddening. Call me a conspiracy theorist but i think the players that do get called up have a better chance of doing so if they play for teams like Chivas or Club America since those clubs are household names. And to another extent, Monterrey, Cruz Azul, and Santos Speaking of Santos, Ochoa should retire to force mexico to call up Carlos Acevedo. But what do i know? Im just a pinche americano.

Love from Americano-Trinidadian

From watching the last USA v. Mexico game, I'd argue Ochoa is the reason it was only 2-0. The thing about Mexico friendlies here though: most games in the South West of the USA are basically home games for Mexico anyway. AT&T stadium had more Mexico supporters at it than USA. I will say that the pro/rel is definitely holding both Liga MX and MLS back, and so is the fact that 18 out of 29 MLS teams make the play offs (9 from each conference), which is the majority of teams. So both MLS and Liga MX are promoting being mediocre. But, you totally hit the nail of the head. MLS is developing young talent and then selling it overseas which allows young Americans to develop, while Mexico keeps all it's talent in Mexico, and while there is nothing wrong with that, there really isn't the skill level of the competition to really push the players to the next level. Sure Liga MX wins most of the CCC matches, but outside of the MLS there isn't really any league that can compete for that. Even the best Caribbean and Central American players are going to Europe, MLS, or USL to play professionally which is why the national teams are gaining on both USA and Mexico. TBH, all of CONCACAF needs fixed because it's seen as one of the worst Confederations in world football

Mexico is also not developing young prospects. Mexico was known for under 21 squads. Now they can't even qualify for the Olympics.

Tbf at this point I think the only reason why Liga mx is better than MLS is because of the wages. Some Liga Mx teams have wage bills higher then some European teams (obviously not higher then top European teams like man united, Real Madrid, and etc.) but some do have higher wage bills then some medium-good size European clubs. While in the MLS unless someone is a designated player teams can only spend less then what? Like $6 million a year on the players who aren’t designated players. In my opinion even though I prefer watching Liga Mx since I’m a Monterrey fan if the MLS either increased or removed their salary cap I don’t really see Liga Mx being the better league anymore since their are American players who couldn’t make it Europe but they come back to the MLS with European experience while some Mexican players don’t even have that experience since many of them haven’t left for Europe before. I know this video is mainly about the Mexican national team however I see this also having a potential impact on Liga mx in the future as well if like I previously stated if the MLS was to remove or increase their salary cap.

We need the 20/11 in Liga mx again, with this rule we were able to get players like guardado to be known

Bro I’ve been watching the national team since 2005 and everyone who saying this is the worst national team ever either forgot the past or just started recently watching the national team like since 2017. 2013 was the worst national team, don’t forget the only reason they qualified was because of USA, if not, there would have been no World Cup for Mexico in 2014 despite a good performance in 2014. In 2013 they couldn’t beat USA and lost to USA then. When was Mexicos best? In 2005-2006 when they were close to beating the best? Mexicos best is Argentina’s worst performance

I think MLS bringing in stars like Messi and Suarez could be beneficial, not just from a financial point of view but for mentorship to these U S. Players as well. Think about it, if a player takes his time to learn from Messi and implement these changes to his game. They would come out for the better and get better deals overseas. Mexico is hindering their player's growth by keeping them in the country, only competing against each other and being comfortable with their salaries.

this is good for lLga MX its time for Mexico to developed their own style and if that means trial by error then so be it. look how bad Brazil has fallen, they are disaster having a coach sticking the JOGA Bonito way but the players inherently only play the "technical EPL Way"

And they believing on Simpson's prediction that mexico and portugal will go to the final😂. Lol not a chance coz too many national teams also improving. Maybe Netherlands could win first the world cup before Portugal

You don't need any "qualifications" to talk about why the Mexican national team is a joke right now. The problem is so obvious that any football fan can put two & two together except for Liga MX fans who are so die hard for their club to win another domestic league trophy. They encourage their best players to stay in their league to win more meaningless trophies. The real growth will always bee in Europe.

And also allow regulation in the liga mex i'm sorry but removing it was a terrible idea

The US best players are not playing in MLS. So any case against the US due to MLS not being competitive with LigaMx is a non starter. Take all our team a mostly U23 side with Pulisic, Tyler, Weston, Turner as over 25. All those U23 guys have dozens of caps from 17-23 in European leagues. They have a huge head start over Mexican top players who are still considered young 25 getting first starts in LigaMx. That is one of the major problems the Mexican team faces when they can’t use technical ability as the deciding factor vs the U.S. anymore. The US players have always been physically superior, now with that technical ability it’s like Mexico is facing a mid tier European side every time they play. Plus the US coaching Berhalter and BJ (interim head coach) have out coached Mexico three head coaches this decade. Mexico will have to up its game and find a way to get even with the US otherwise it will be over because the pipeline for the US is only just beginning. Now Mexico will have to take a hard look at where the US is at to get there. Ochoa statement about the US looking toward Mexico couldn’t be more further from the truth as results point the other way.

Memo 4ever tho hahaha 🇲🇽

Cisco hey I subscribed. But the national team downfall was in 2019 Mexico biggest problems is to play in the USA we are the only national team to play outside our country and the problem is televisa Ocho is the problem he controls who to pick televisa only wants America players to play in national team , liga Mx only wants players from other countries instead of out youth system and no ascenso or descenso or copa Mx . Julian quiñones we don’t need him he’s old we need new young players not quiñones 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ the big problem is that we play only for money we don’t play in Mexico that’s sad we don’t even learn 4 years of bad games can’t win nations league 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ it’s sad disappointing

At least the Women's Team looks good. They probably have a chance of Winning a World Cup soon the way things are going.

Using CCC is a terrible metric considering MLS is in preseason mode and Liga MX is in midseason form

The US looks strong only against Mexico. I haven’t seen them play with as much passion against any other national team. If the US focused on playing like how they play against Mexico for every other game they would be dangerous.

Liga MX being better than MLS is debatable. But looking at the direction of both leagues… in 5 years MLS will easily surpass LigaMX

We will know who is the best in World Cup

It’s not just Mexico is regressing. But the United States is better than they have ever been. They have great players at some of the best teams in Europe and doing well there!

“more then likely making the playoffs” and proceeds to show chivas is funny 😭😭bums barely even make the playoffs

By far, this is definitely the worst version of this national team I have ever seen. The FMF has to be one of the most overrated teams I have ever heard but also has one of the most loyal and passionate fan base I have seen in professional and international sports. Mexico national team definitely deserves to be on the world stage, but sadly, there is just so much corruption in that federation where they only care about filling up stadiums and taking money from the fans. Overall, the team has to go through a full rebuild, the same way how American professional sports do

but do you have a Sledgehammer bicycle with which to do cool stunts and have become school president?

Hard to watch ngl

Bro now you understand what’s like to be a chivas fan there’s not enough good “talent” we seen some of the best prospects like chofis, Antuna macias Pizarro Vega zendejas. Mexican players only care about money. Alexis Vega cordoba laniez damm etc only are cashing checks they aren’t making that effort to be good enough for transfer to Europe. USMNT players leave at very young age to Europe.

I blame the awful youth development that we have. 😢

L Tri

In Memo defense, you can’t really put all the blame on him when he’s playing horrible teams he just won VIP for his Italian club despite of them losing and they are still losing without him, so it’s not Ochoa’s fault. Now as far as the national team you can say Ochoa is old and he can’t save but what about the strikers and the wingers? Why can’t they score a fuckn goal? You can’t expect Ochoa to save everything when you have Luis Romo, Jorge Sanchez , Erick Sanchez, and Jesus Gallardo starting! What about Chucky what has he done? Everyone’s been riding him since 2018 and that was it. You can sing “el chucky Lozano, el chucky lozaAnoooo…” but the man is starting to become more and more washed. You can’t put malagon because he will be a Ochoa 2.0 with Televisa wanting him to start and stay til 2062.

pexico 🤏😂

I’ll be back when Mexico has a new goalie and Santi is a starter and Mexico is still losing. Then I’ll see what excuses you have

I fell like the fans are also to blame the culture sucks

Mexico is doing poorly but the USA has also improved

I’m with you on everything except for the Ochoa bit. I feel like he can still perform even if he is old, it’s just that he’s gotten complacent. Call up other keepers and PLAY THEM, that way you get the message across to Ochoa that he need to be better or else

Let's get something out of the way: Mexico was never a good national team. It wouldn't make it to the world cup if they played in CONMEBOL.

When did English become the language of Mexico? Lmao.

US's youth system is better than Mexico's. Also, it's growing rapidly so the difference will only widen if Mexico doesn't act immediately.

At this point, Mexico has only six players who would make the USMNT (Alvarez, Santi, Ochoa, Montes, Vasquez, Chuky). And none of these players is much better than the equivalent USMNT player. Several are probably worse. The USMNT, on the hand, has seven midfielders who are clearly better than Mexico's 2nd best midfielder. Let that sink in. The lesson should be clear: LigaMX players can't cut it in today's game.

lloren. #dosacero

Brazil is better than its colonizer Portugal Argentina is on par or better than its colonizer Spain Mexico is levels below its colonizer Spain.

Cap

Liga mx is not better than mls

NO ....