The Downfall of the Philadelphia Flyers 

I need a buddy like you!

Try being a Leaf's fan, pal.

At least the Leafs MAKE IT to the playoffs every year

He cries a lot doesn't he? I know because as a Flyers fan I do too.

Put your finger in his butt.

Honestly the bob, bryz shit is what made me stop. Not just the deal, but the way it was done.

I realized it when Lindros got his Scott Stevens concussion

The only other organization that reminds of the Flyers nowadays are the Pittsburgh Pirates. For a long period of time the Pirates were a very well regarded franchise with a great history. Since the late 70s though they've pretty much been nonexistent.

Where to begin? Probably when Ed Snider stopped running the show.

I am the opposite, I just became a fan this year in January (I'm from WI and Ive always loved the logo/colors and don't know crap about hockey). Can you explain more about this?

​@@aarronvanburen8612 so pretty much once the owner died the team went to sh!t and Comcast now runs it which doing a terrible job now fans not wanting to go want them to sell the team it's a sh!tshow ngl you picked a bad time to become a flyer fan but we do accept you with open arms 😂

@@aarronvanburen8612 I've been watching this team for over 20 years. If THIS year is the year you became a fan, I promise you it will only get better. These past 2-3 years have been the worst on-ice product since I've been alive.

I have been saying that the last 3 years to I really believe we could have been in the Stanley cup

That team was built for the regular season, and I believe they would have lost early in the playoffs had Covid hit or not, The 2019-20 Flyers had 4 solid lines so they could wear down teams in an 82 game season. They had so many wins that year where they dominated in the 3rd period because of that. The playoffs are a different animal as there are no back to back games so you only need 3 lines. The Flyers got exposed in the playoffs that year because they didn’t have a legit sniper, nor a legit #1 D. You don’t win a Stanley Cup without a scorer or a #1 D in the NHL. The irony is the 2009-10 was totally built for the playoffs and not the regular season and that’s why they went to the Cup as a 7th seed.

@@chrisolivo6591 You have no idea what you're talking about.

@@darthollpheist1156 If they were so good in 2019-20 (before Covid) why did the team fall off the cliff and miss the playoffs the next 3 years? Or why didn’t they atleast make the playoffs in 2021 with pretty much the same team?

@@chrisolivo6591 Because they weren't the same team. Not even close.That's why. Not because they lacked the skill. They were THE best team in the NHL that season. But, they got screwed by COVID and refs. The season following, they didn't have some of the key players they needed.

Hextall should be set on fire. He did decades long damage to the Flyers.

@@pumpkinking5174 this is new to me. Oh, wait. He was the one to trade Jeff Carter, right? I did hear grumbling about it. I live in Pennsylvania. So that grumbling was quite loud.

I’m sorry buddy but you have to let go of that unreasonable optimism even if it’s admirable. The Flyers need top end talent that can only be acquired by drafting at the top. They have some good young pieces who I hope they keep. But it will be minimum 5 years before we see any sunshine in Flyers land and that’s IF we do an excellent job drafting

@@Zenkka Yeah, they are literally in the process of doing just that. Guys like Frost and Foerster.... Konecny, Brink, York, etc. are all possibly superstars someday. Couturier is already the best 2-way forward in the NHL (along with guys like Bergeron). Atkinson is a 25-30 goal scorer..... They played this whole season with AHL players. Some of which have thrived. Tippett is going to be top end talent. Konecny was blowing the NHL up until he got injured.... twice. Hart is still a top 10 goalie. And, none of the people I named have even hit their prime yet. Flyers are going nowhere but up. It might take time, but they'll be Cup contenders within a few years. 3, maybe 4.

@@darthollpheist1156 All fanbases tend to overrate their young players. I’d suggest to withhold your expectations. There are always more German Rubtsovs than Travis Konecnys

@@Zenkka Konecny is a stud. He was the NHLs hottest player before he was injured. Then, he came back, cooled off, got hot again, then got injured again. He's a top 6 on any team in the NHL. Most teams, he's top 3 easily. And their prospects, I'm not overrating them. I didn't even bring up most of them. Just the ones that are hot right now. Like I said, Foester.... His NHL career.... 8 games...... points?...... 7. Including a PP assist, he's a plus 2, 20% shooting percentage.......... Tippett never really was able to develop in Florida because he didn't get the ice time due to them having other star power. Now, he's hot and just had his first hat-trick. Cates, not a scoring forward but he's still one of the best puck controllers in the NHL. Right up there with any star player. He's just not a scorer. Great on the PK though. Laughton is having a career season. Because of Laughton and Konecny The Flyers had the most shorties until Konecny got hurt again. They have 12 shorties this season. Maybe 13. Yeah, most prospects don't make it. It's a numbers game. But, what I'm saying is, the guys I'm talking about are already panning out. And Cutter Gauthier is supposed to be the real deal. York is already a top pair to top 4 D man. Frost has had a great season. I'm not bringing up Allison or any other the others. Just the ones doing stuff NOW (besides Cutter). Everyone knows their pipeline is stacked. It's not a homer thing. It's an objective Flyers thing, right now. All those trades for drafts are starting to pay off.

@@darthollpheist1156 that is a lot of mid prospects ngl

Full front office cleanup is coming. The next few months will be monumental in a good way.

Lol no we won’t. We’re 4 years out from playoff contention

When "rebuild" is uttered, the Organization expects fans to watch crap for years.

@@bobbygoodman2875 You think management simply determines the future with a magic wand? They will be as surprised as the fans when the Flyers make the playoffs next year (if my conditions hold).

@@clivemossmoon3611 I hope you are right Clive but seriously doubt it. Take a bit of time and examine all the holes on this Team. By any/every measure they are awful. AND they have the moronic Yosemite Sam behind the bench. He only knows one way and you only need 3 active brain cells to work it. A good coach works with what he has, whether there is a lot of skill or little. He's a dinosaur...and a dumb one at that. When a f%£@ing coach gets more headlines than the Team, you know your in trouble. This loud, crass, vulgar, shortass is an embarrassment on the Philly Organization and the League. I feel bad for the players, particularly Konecny and Tippet.

They need Boosh as their coach...torts is too burned out...they will be busting heads next yr...Hart has been playing great lately..he beat fuerry the other day...fluery has the most shootout wins!! He needs to come to philly!! Him an hart..alternating back an fourth..peace✌️🇺🇸🇬🇧🇺🇦🙌

You are so lucky holy shit

@@MrBeenus Lucky but old 😆

@@vegasrenie You lived alot of Flyers fans' dreams and witnessed the Broad Street Bullies in their hayday. Old lucky bastard

@@MrBeenus And there's more! The office building where I worked at the time was on the parade route and we got to hang out of the windows and see the parade go by after they won the cup! And naturally, who has a camera at work? I wish I did because I would still have the photos!

@@vegasrenie That's amazing. I'm so happy that you got to witness history. Fly high brother. Go Flyers!!!!!

Man turn your volume up

Sounds like the Leafs lol.

Not gonna happen now with Danny b at gm

The 12-year contracts?

Mr. Sheppard… please don’t be fooled by this current Flyers surge. They are chasing ‘Fool’s Gold’.. and have nothing to play for. They’re just trying to finish ‘strong’…a ‘red herring’ if there ever was one. Danny B (another ex-Flyer… one of many who held this position): I’m not thrilled that another ex-Flyer is in this position… but I’m willing to give him the chance to see what he could do. Firing Chuck (without approval from the three Kings) is a step in the right direction… but someone of a higher authority needs to take charge and do more to make the Flyers an Elite team. Next up: the 3 Kings. See ya! Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

They ain’t shit lmao biased moron

How drunk were you when you wrote this

I’m presuming your last name is not ‘Hextall’. Don’t let him run your team into the ground. He had a ‘hand’ in our demise…Stop him before things get worse.

@@bloke_19xx33 Pens fan too. Hextall's gonna be a huge scapegoat cause there's nothing he can do as Father Time is chipping away at our superstar core. No team can recover quickly from losing a Crosby, Malkin and Letang in such a short stretch which is what is gonna happen. Pens are gonna pay dearly I'm afraid for 17 glorious seasons.

@@joeheid2776 Mr. Heid, I see what you're saying about the Pens losing their Core...but the Pens have so much talent up and down their roster (I'm not saying that they're on the same level as the Pens' Top '3') that they'll still be a competitive team while they're in 'transition'...that's where you have to be careful with what Hextall may/will do. The Pens draft/develop players that are ready to play at a moment's notice. What the Pens are doing is working very effectively. It's if/when they start drafting 'Projects' (an area where the Flyers know all too well), where your team might hit some roadblocks. I would never give Hextall the opportunity to re-vamp the Pens' roster (if it needs to be...but i don't think you're looking at a major overhaul, JMO). However, with Hextall, one never knows. Good luck in the Playoffs. Cheers.

You'll be golfing with Cindy by Friday. It's over in Pittsburgh. Empty area and relocation upcoming.

@@pumpkinking5174 I always hear the threat of relocation whenever the Pens are on a ‘downturn’. That’s all we heard circa 2005 when the Pens threatened to move to KC (?). Then…by a stroke of luck…Mario rose to the occasion, and put together a group of investors to keep the team in Pittsburgh. Then (#2)…the hockey gods smiled down on Pittsburgh, which allowed them to draft Crosby (with Malkin being drafted in 2004). In other words… claims about the Pens relocating anytime soon are completely exaggerated. I truly can’t see it happening. Being a Flyers fan… I wish we had their problems (no one here would notice if the Flyers either folded or relocated).

lol, its more like they dont have talent and skill. unfortunately your dinosaur viewpoint is shared by senior management

@@gary6754 ?? not sure where you got "dinosaur viewpoint" from or why your attacking me. The team sucks, has no talent, has not drafted well, has made POOR decisions trading and signing FAs. Team clearly needs new ownership and a rebuild and to build a good team through the draft. Get over yourself.

He is why we have half of our wins this year

You're not a very smart man are ya Rob? jfc have you watched a single game this year?

@@aryanshah1529 yes and i admit i was up and down with hart but i figured out why because all the pressure was on hart because sandstrum was playing terrible and ersson was still developing. now if ersson is the real deal next year with hart as well i think this team will make the playoffs.

As a habs fan we’ll take him.

He didn't fully hit his potential til he went to St Louis. He's been damn good over there.

Yep. Now they're shopping hart. Wtf? I love Briere as a player but I'm not sure about him being gm. This 3way trade for a no name goalie bs? He traded our best dman. We NEED defense or we'll continue to the road to ruin. 1st major move....bust

@@oddity4all2see They're not shopping Hart. That's a huge rumor that's been debunked more than once. They aren't going to trade a top 10 goalie when they don't even have a solid backup. They are shopping for a second goalie. Maybe people are reading that as them swapping Hart out but that's not the case. They are looking for a number 2 goalie to pair with Hart. Take some of the load off of him. If you look at him numbers from last season, he was very good. Especially with the fact that he played probably more games than any other goalie. Their D was the issue. They know that. People are panicking like they are collapsing or something. They are fine. Forester is going to have his rookie year this season and I'm sure he'll be ever better than he was in the 9 games he played. He had, I believe 8 points in those games. Some of which were highlight reel goals and passes. They you have Cutter who is supposed to be the next big thing. We'll see about that though. Couturier (arguably the best 2-way guy in the NHL), Atkinson (30 goal scorer), Konecny (30-40+ goal scorer), Hart (top ten goalie), Forester (poised to give Connon Beddard a run for his money), Laughton (20 goal scorer maybe while being one of the best on the kill), DeAngelo (one of the highest scoring D men), Provorov (still a beaut), Brink (we'll see), Tippett (20-30 goal scorer), and so on. They all almost all the talent they need. They just need a few pieces and they're golden. A backup goalie and a solid 1st pair D man and maybe another playmaker. They have the shooters now.

@darthollpheist1156 I watched an interview with briere and he was asked about hart. His reply was something like not really but, everything is open.. I don't want hart to go. He has a year left on his contract. He probably wants to go to a better team and I wouldn't blame him. I'm ok with the 3way trade. I don't know about the goalie. Errson is pretty solid and I think he will give hart a run for his money. Hart was the best player on our team last season. I'm definitely excited for our prospects and for October. I'm on the fence with Tony d. I like him as a player. I don't like him as a person. He's definitely a locker room cancer and his ego is a bit much. Typical south Philly tough guy bs. And yr absolutely right about us needing defense. We've been rocky in that department for a while now. Our special teams need a HUGE overhaul. I hate that people are blaming niskenin leaving for the downfall. He's one guy. I'm excited and nervous for the rest of the off season.

@@oddity4all2see I love Tony D as a person. Him and Provorov are both against the woke, rainbow mafia... and I love it.

@@darthollpheist1156 Provorov is a product of the brainwashing from Putin (you know, the guy whose government arrested Flyers goalie prospect Ivan Fedotov for not going into the insane meat grinder that is the unjust war in Ukraine) and religious fundamentalism. Tony D is a locker room cancer, racist asshole, and shit defenseman, and not as good as Ghost, who Flyers brass literally paid to get rid of. Yeah, what *legends* these two dummies are, Jesus Christ.

The Risto, Ghost, DeAngelo combo is befuddling to say the least. I believe Scott has retired & from everything the local press is saying Scott & his replacement won't be deferring to the 3 "Wise" men anymore. (God willing) Although I think Holmgren did an okay job as GM. Some gaffes but some decent moves

@@rubberneckinc.8937 Yeah, Scott finally put out to pasture. DeAngelo is another weird move by Fletcher. Another almost untradeable deal, but term is short, so that's a good thing. Flyers need Sean C back fully healthy. Hopefully that happens for this fall.

@@michaelkirkpatrick7483 I hope Couts is able to come back fully healthy. Backs are tricky with regular people let alone athletes. I love Couts' game. Heck I loved his game before he started scoring. If he's himself he is the type of player that could lead them out of this darkness. His presence alone moves all the centers back one or to wing. I think he's obviously the next Captain as well.

It seems like the main reason the Holmgren loved Fletch is because they both believe that draft picks are worthless.

Fletcher was a retard tho

the Flyers dont value skill and talent, thats the first problem

They did indeed get there sooner rather than later lol. I'm thrilled they're good again

How did it not? What, we had 1 positive season in a rebuild year? We have been awful for over a decade. Just because we decided to stop being mediocre doesn't mean this didn't age well.

Hart will be in his prime by the time the rebuild is done, goalies hit prime at a older age then a skater. For sure trade TK . Keep Hart. If Forester , cutter hit and we draft a couple D man , I give the team 5 years before it's good