@@SamAronowum Sam, you must consider Arsenal as your ESL team...haven't watched since 2012 but I liked Arsene and the international mix of the players
Will you have an episode on Hungary? It had one of the largest Jewish populations, has its unique branches en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schism_in_Hungarian_Jewry?useskin=vector. And the explosion of anti-Semitism post ww1 would be important to cover to understand what will happen in Hungary during the Holocaust.
My Great-Great- Grandparents got on a boat from the Russian Empire (now Lithuania) c. 1880 and landed in Northern England; family legend has it that they fully intended to immediately take passage on the next ship to New York, but were swindled out of their money and had to settle in Leeds for want of the price of tickets. My Great-Grandfather (who as the eldest son had been born in Lithuania, unlike his successively younger siblings) eventually emigrated to the US with his family (including my English-born Grandmother) in 1910 or so. With respect to names, my Grandfather (b. 1902) was originally called Yankel, but went by James, until as a young teenager his sister started calling him "Chester", reportedly because it was fashionable (his siblings wound up as Janet, Mabel, Hazel and Theodore; their first language was Yiddish and no, those weren't their original given names, either). Chester appears on his 1918 draft card, in his handwriting, and as far as I can tell was his legal name from then on - it's what's on his military service record starting in 1920, and as far as I can tell he never used either Yankel or James since then.
Hey SamAronow, this is probably my first time commenting on a History RU-vid video but I just wanted to say I love your videos and as an aspiring History Student I find your videos to be some of the best History videos on this platform I haven't finished this video, but the segment on Jewish-associated sports teams and your discussion of it although brief was interesting and I wanted to lend my own thoughts with the sports knowledge I know. Firstly, there have actually been Jewish-American Soccer Teams founded in the US! While American Soccer History is one I am still looking to research into (I literally just got done purchasing some History books on the subject) I wanted to say that it is a fascinating aspect of American History not often talked about. Alot of the early days of American Soccer History, especially during the Dark Ages after the Depression and before the modern period of American Soccer History started were dominated by Ethnic Soccer Leagues compromised of Immigrants from America who usually played after work had ended and following trends elsewhere these clubs usually were workers clubs sort of like in Europe but uniquely different in that these teams had a largely immigrant base of support and had to compete with Baseball extensively. So to get back on topic, there is a Jewish American Soccer Team, it's called Maccabee Los Angeles (link at the end of this mini-rant) and for the brief time they were around they were immensely successful. Also I know you mentioned that there is "No Soccer Hooliganism in America" within your video but with the rise of MLS and even America Soccer's Past of having Insurgent Leagues pop up, American Soccer History can have Soccer Hooliganism just not nearly to the scale of Europe. Like I said, American Soccer History is still something I am looking to research further, but I just wanted to add my own thoughts as Soccer is one of my special interests alongside History and I think it is a fascinating aspect of History that is never really talked about. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccabee_Los_Angeles (The Jewish Sports Team I was talking about) P.S: If you want to know the American Soccer History books I purchased if that interests you, I will also include them here: Distant Corners: American Soccer's History of Missed Opportunities and Lost Causes by David Wangerin Soccer in a Football World: The Story of America's Forgotten Game (Also by David Wangerin) Offside: Soccer and American Exceptionalism (Andrei S. Markovits and Steven L. Hellerman) I haven't read them yet but I am excited to read them! (Also sorry for the long comment I realized I ranted a little bit)
Thanks for including my quote Sam! Also if anyone would want to read about the Leo Frank story in relation to Watson and Smith check out the book The Jew Accused: Three Anti-Semitic Affairs by UC Santa Barbara History Prof. Albert S. Lindemann 20:52 Also to add on some more interesting details about Jon Ossoff he is also one of the few Australian-Americans to be elected to office, with him having Australian citizenship for a time through his Australian immigrant mother
Welcome to the Spurs fan club Sam! I should say though Lineker is mostly identified with Leicester rather with Spurs, but he was in the last team that won a major cup for us in 1991.
25:40 Similar to this, one of my great grandfathers Roy (Israel) Cohen was born in Misk around 1899, moved to England as a baby and came to the US around 1912. I have relatives on both sides of family that lived in London for a few years before leaving through Liverpool.
@SamAronow I just saw Oppenheimer this weekend and besides being a good movie, it featured a fantastic clash of two very different American Jews who seem to embody some of the strains of thought you have discussed in your videos. While it’s a bit off topic, I think a video touching on this movie and it’s Jewish aspects could bring a nice influx of people to your excellent channel.
My great grandfather emigrated from Poland . We have his records and it says on the back “name changed by the U.S government to “Lewis”. (It used to be Lazar) and his hebrew name was Eliezer Ben Yonah HaKohen.
Right, they would have applied for that, in the same way you apply for a driver's license. It isn't forced. I looked into this via the USCIS and it would appear the trope of the Ellis Island Special originates with an overly literal reading of "our name was changed," implying a lack of consent that wasn't the case.
@@SamAronow Interesting I unfortunately never got to meet him so I couldn’t ask him, however I know he did teach Torah when he was in Europe so you’d think he may want to keep his my Hebrew/Yiddish name.
That commentary of WASPy sounding names, that happened in South Africa too in regard to how the white population interacted with domestic workers and garderners. Names like Gladys, Gloria, Bradly, Eric, names like those would simply be given by settlers to african people, especially those who ended up semi-grating (migrating within one "country") at the time to Johannesburg, Port Elizabeth or Durban, any of the urbanizing cities in the late 19th and early 20th century. It also happened in the Afrikaans community, especially on rural farmland, black farm workers ending up being given Afrikaans names.
Oh yay, I guessed the location of the map you showed on your community post correctly! Glad to see a fellow born and raised SGVer be successful on RU-vid
That…certainly sounds like something that would happen in Gupta-era South Africa. I’m a loyal codeterminist, so Andromeda Jaffa will be co-owned by me, the players, and the fans.
The part about Tom Watson holding the seat that would eventually be Jon Ossof's isn't true. Ossof is the Class 2 senator while Watson was the Class 3 senator, so his seat is currently held by Raphael Warnock.
Thanks for all your videos! I learned a lot on stuff I couldnt learn during my University years. Do you have some book titles in English, German, Slovak, Czech or Serbo - Croatian on the subjects you cover to share with me? 😊
It's so cool you're contacting tasting history lol. All the RU-vidrs I follow band together. While you're at it maybe you can do some kind of Collab with snappy dragon
4:14 Why is that a terrible name? Zionism is a national movement, not nationalist. The name of the N*zi party is just a meaningles name. In fact, Hitler wrote in his book, that he regrets not calling the party the "Social-revolutionary party" (yeah, similar to the Russian social-democratic party in the early 1920's).
Someone correct me if they can think of other examples, but AFAIK the quintessential fan base of the old Brooklyn Dodgers is probably the closest thing North American sports has had to the European style niche/ethnic/class style fan base, with the exception of the often politically tied fan bases of the NHL’s Montreal Canadiens and Quebec Nordiques before the latter moved.
That's so true. In North America, sports teams are seen the OPPOSITE as how they are in most of the world; even when cities have multiple teams, like LA or New York, they only really focus in the geography (I.e Brooklyn vs New York) and never talk about politics, class, or ethnicity. We often focus on the unifying power of sports, as a way to transcend these identities.
A comment on the migration via UK. At that particular time prior to WW1 immigrants were being attracted by coal (?) mining companies in the UK, so this could have been a multi-stage migration, after failing to get permanent work or laid-off. This is the reason why a small Lithuanian community emerged in Scotland in the first decade of 20th century, and it would mean that there were Jewish compatriots with them as well.
Hello Sam I can't wait for the WWI era and I assume the disscussion of the Jews in the Balkan and the Ottoman empire I wanted to ask something that just wasn't clear to me during this era of videos you barely talked about Congress Poland (besides lately some things in Warsaw and mentioning pogroms that happened there) and i wanted to know since most of my family came from there. what were the differences between living in congress Poland and the Pale of settlement? I also am really interested in the Hasidic developments around that time (mostly because of a personal connection) and Hasidic Zionism that started to take off after WWI
Slight change: because the Benaroya video involves the Macedonia Front, I realized I couldn’t explain that without first explaining Gallipoli, so the ZMC will come first and will be a direct sequel to “The Second Aliyah.” As to Poland, I don’t remember the specifics, but I can say that Jews in Congress Poland had _some_ of the same restrictions applied to the Jews of the Pale, but not _all_ of them. This is one reason Jews didn’t emigrate from Congress Poland at quite as high a rate. It’s also one of several reasons Poland briefly had the world’s largest Jewish population in the early 1920s.
On sanctions, it really depends on what you define as effective. Iranian sanctions have been devastating in many ways. It's just that the leadership of Iran is so fanatic it doesn't care. So, if the purpose of sanctions is to get Iran to change its policies that hasn't happened (actually, it kind of did happen, in the Obama-era deal with Iran, rolled back by Trump). But if it's to diminish Iran's economy, make Iran less powerful, that certainly has happened. Sanctions have a cumulative impact over time. Iran has been under sanctions for a very long time - even if the impact was to knock only 1% off its economic growth per year, by now that cumulative effect is substantial. Same thing is likely to be true for Russia. You will mostly see the impact of sanctions over time. Though things like the German elimination of gas imports are already having a pretty devastating effect (since Russia has very little way of transporting that gas to any other country - pipelines to China transport *other* gas to China, and Russia has too little LNG capacity to resell the gas that previously went to e.g. Germany.)
Yeah, my problem with peacetime sanctions is: look what it’s done (or hasn’t done) to North Korea. On the other hand, current sanctions against Russia have materially harmed its ability to fight, to the point that they’re constantly running out of weapons and ammo.
@@SamAronow I think if you want to criticize peacetime sanctions, the best example is Cuba, which is US stupidity. North Korea - effectively every meaningful country, even NoKo's main ally, has imposed sanctions - that strongly suggests no country can think of no better way of minimizing the danger posed by NoKo than by doing their best to suppress it short of military action. A state has to be pretty dang awful to get to that position. I understand the rationale for engagement as a strategy. But also the limits. The west faces a conundrum in China - the whole idea with China 20-25 years ago was hey, let them get rich, they'll become friends. Turns out... not so much. Are we supposed to engage with North Korea and thereby give the Kim regime more money and power in the hope that somehow they'll become better people? That seems a risky bet, when even their closest allies don't think it's wise. NoKo have told us, for decades, who they are - assassinations, bombings, kidnappings, organized crime, etc. Juche is also a wild ideology, with racial purity ideals that are extremely troubling - NoKo published vile racist things about Obama, for instance. Maybe, sometimes, suppression is the best you can do. What do you do with a state, like Russia, that engages is open and flagrant assassinations, such as what Russia has done in the UK on at least two occasions, and which has suborned western elections and engaged in all kinds of other terrible things? Turn the other cheek and continue engagement? You think Germany should continue to buy Russian gas? The interesting thing about Russia is that, notwithstanding their huge endowment of Soviet legacy equipment, they are running out of materiel. It's mind-boggling, it's another example of just how incredibly incompetent, corrupt and shambolic is that state, but it appears to be true.
FUN FACT: Sometimes, a “name change” might have happened, because people working at the immigration center like Ellis Island, etc. couldn’t pronounce the name properly. Like Corey, might be an “Anglicized” name of an Arabic name. I’m sure the same thing happened with Jews, and others, coming from Eastern Europe.
Just a heads up, at least according to last video's guest GeneaVlogger, this is actually is not true. Apparently Ellis Island employed a lot of people who could speak the languages of the various peoples coming through, so this is not where the name changes would have taken place. I suspect a lot of the formal name changes come with the naturalization process, which is implied in this video.
At Torreon, Mexico, the anti-Huerta rebels under Pancho Villa massacred the entire Chinese population of several hundred. The Chinese who wore nice suits were forced to strip, so the suits would not have bullet holes in them. A Chinese Mexican woman I know grew up in Torreon, and was there in high school on the centennial of the massacre. Mexican education and media did not mention the massacre. The young woman had never heard of the Torreon Massacre. No whiners or ethno-masochists in Mexico, which I find rather nice.
what do you sayor think about those that say that Zionism is a western colonial scheme due to it being started by Ashkenazi jews? Since you official get involved on the reddit, I think its best if you prepare to those kind of questions, especially from r/askmiddleeast
I think they don't know who is or isn't Ashkenazi or what is or isn't "Western." The most westward-looking of the early Zionists were all of the Sephardic minhag: Montefiore, Alkalai, Herzl, Nordau, etc. They came from a culture that looked down on Ashkenazim for being too eastern.
@@SamAronow Exactly. People the USA (including Ashkenazi jews) look at Sephardic Jews as exotic, and non-western (sometimes non-white), but as you have pointed out in your videos, the most westernized Jews until the mid 19th century, were Portuguese Sephardic Jews from Western Europe. Not an accident that Benjamin Disraeli was of Sephardic, not of Ashkenazi origin. Even the polemical issue jews and slavery in the Caribbean involves virtually only Sephardic Jews, who were indeed dominant as the white colonial class in the Dutch Caribbean.
The sports clubs kinda triggerd something for me. year ago we had a scandal in the netherlands on a row between the football clubs of feyenoord and Ajax. Beacause Feyenoord hooligan supporters have a very bad no good song about there Rivals in the club Ajax. And all i can remember is thinking to myself. ''i dint know the ajax club was jewish''
Philly people are repping Philly. And if they represent any specific political ideology, it is broadly socialist. They're not beating up antisemitic fans from a rival, right-wing Philly team that doesn't exist.
@@SamAronow that isn't the only form of hooliganism. They absolutely riot, stir shit, etc. Their football stadium had a jail and court inside for years.
I think you're missing that colonialism does have a lot of inherent contradictions while still being colonialism, US and Aus were both colonies of unwanted and criminal populations, australia basically being a prison camp; and at the same time were strategic ways to expand britain's economic, military, and extractive power. these contradictions are the rule, not the exception, also true when analyzing zionism
Sam. There's a Kossoff family in England. It produced both the actor David Kossoff and his son, who I'm sure your Mum and Dad have heard of, Paul; who played guitar with the hard rock band Free. I wonder if your mate Jake might be related? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kossoff
I actually planned to visit the Roman ghetto two years ago, but had to cancel. Rome has been taunting me ever since. I'll be changing flights there, but not with enough time to see anything sadly. Italy is #1 on my list for Europe.
Sam this video is very disappointing. You make clear your political bias and that's fair as long as it doesn't affect your videos too much. But increasingly it is. Your last one gave far too much positive attention to socialists and even attempted to apologise for antisemitic elements of them and Democrats. And now you've adopted a viewpoint on the Rwanda scheme based, as far as I can see, solely on taking the left-wing stance because it's left-wing. The parallels with Uganda are interesting but you ruin that by taking out the complexity with partisan commentary. For the record, as someone whose great grandparents came to this country in the wake of the Aliens Act, the immigration situation today is very different to then and the British public poll clearly in favour of the scheme as an attempt to get some control over the situation in the Channel. As for Lineker, I oppose his sacking on free speech grounds but he compared the government to the Nazis... Something inaccurate, highly offensive and laughable when the Conservatives even now enjoy majority support among British Jews and are very philosemitic and pro-Israel. Please stop letting your personal biases cause you to present a left-wing narrative as being factual. I love your channel and appreciate the research you put into your videos, but the videos are becoming increasingly uncomfortable to watch as the biases become more noticeable. Remember that not all Jews are secular socialists, as much as you might present the community and history itself as being overwhelmingly disposed that way. Make it so that I don't have to caveat sharing your videos by saying "he's a secular Socialist so keep that in mind when watching". I'll also note that while Tottenham is known as the "Yids", various other teams enjoy strong Jewish support, particularly regionally. And ironically, Arsenal, Tottenham's dual nemesis, has a similar share of Jewish football fans as Tottenham itself. Which my Jewish Arsenal-supporting friends would keenly point out. Edit: I'm sorry if this sounds aggressive. But so much content on the internet is politically biased and it would be a shame for this to be a defining feature of your videos. I'm asking you be more mindful of your own bias and not to paint history from an ideological perspective but factually and making space for differing interpretations.
The political views sam shares here are perfectly reasonable to the point of morally expected. Which part do you object to, out of interest? The part where he criticises deporting refugees? Wow, I’m sorry you had to expose your relatives to such atheistic communist rhetoric
