The EMBARRASSING Failure of Dragon Ball Z Home Releases 

Oh, crapbaskets...

I'll just keep supporting the unofficial release then

Ironic af! Just pure incompetent bunch working on these sadly

It's not that hard...support the official release when it's good, and don't when it's shit. It doesn't need to be all or nothing.

@@Goomyx1492 Voting with your wallet fails when they don't even care about giving you a good product in the first place.

Japanese lawyers don't f*k around 😂

It's hard to when the official release can't get its shit together.

I mean, why would Mark ask people to support Toei after what they did to him?

Made me laugh XD

​@@HawkatanaRefresh my memory, what happened?

Yea, that's why I don't agree with him giving a C+ for the Dragon Box. 1. The Falconer score wasn't in the original Japanese box set. 2. The original Japanese audio (not muffled one) wasn't found until a couple of years ago.

@@Sammmmmmmm617 The Dragon Box has its own problems though. While it's probably the best (complete) release North America has gotten, it has severe discoloration issues that weren't color corrected and the English dub with Kikuchi score has mixing issues. If you only care about the Japanese version though, it's good and all, but the fandom obtaining original high quality broadcast recordings has rendered that obsolete too. Still a good set, but not as good as it could be. To me the best part of the Dragon Box is how beautiful the set's physical boxes look. Easily the best looking set and that's saying a lot. Orange bricks were trash but look great on a shelf and the same uniformity was carried over to Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball GT (with good releases though).

WHAT?!?! Why would they even turn that down? Like what POSSIBLE reason could they have for turning down ORIGINAL broadcast audio for FREE that they themselves don't even have anymore?

@@MultiKool13 Pride or laziness.

Thats insane, rich peoples brains dont work

As a kid you were just happy to be able to watch dragon Ball and own your favorite anime. I still have all the orange boxes and blue boxes and even though they suck I love them for allowing me a poor kid back then to experience my favorite show.

So if you were a kid when the orange bricks came out, how do you even know what the original broadcast looked like other than internet pics, no way you were watching back when it originally aired

@@mania4270 he never said he did.

@@robertwatts7894 so why be mad at something he wasn't even there to experience. That's a gen z being mad at George Lucas for the special edition star wars rereleases. Just comes off as someone just repeating the same thing they heard rather than experience

@@mania4270 Yea I've never seen what the original broadcasts look like. I just think its sad that we still don't have a release that was accurate to it, so people (myself included) have a warped perception of what the series is meant to look like. A series as huge as this should have an option to see it in the best quality possible. I get where you're coming from, yea I haven't seen the original broadcast myself and am relying on information from others. I just want to have the opportunity to watch Dragon Ball as it was meant to look.

The Orange Bricks in the Buu saga pretty much looked almost like a widescreen DVD transfer of what you could imagine the Level Sets to look like if they made their way to this part of the show.

"It is evolving, just backwards"

no blu ray in look ebtter in buu arc then orgne bricks waht you tlaking about iv see it sde by side

​@@ssjgotenks2009The Season Sets backgrounds look like watercolor and the colors and skin tones are way too bright. The Orange Bricks look a lot better in the Buu saga as while they are more black crushed, the colors are mostly really good and the grain actually is retained at this point. Also, learn how to write in English cause this is really embarrassing to read.

​@@DJ792YT reminds me of beyblade burst from hasbro 😂😂😂

I think the level sets look extremely ugly and am very surprised that the AB Groupe UPSCALE looks much better than a real HD scan (the level sets).

​@luluuu548 I mean to be fair given that the level sets only had 3rd generation masters it was pretty impressive. AB Groupe sweeps tho, hope they make Z and GT and those masters are used worldwide but based on the newest DBZ re-release by Crunchyroll just being the old Blu Ray season sets that were cropped and DNR'd to hell, I highly doubt they will do it

Those came out when Kai was still airing. A bit of a short sighted timing from Funi's part.

@@KremBotop Kai was airing, the Dragon Boxes were just completed in the west, and the Orange Bricks were still selling. It really was horrible timing

@@luluuu548 You people just say anything. How tf are the level sets ugly? This is why we get stuck with shit releases

I mean, they could just start reprinting and reselling them till the end of time, though

"They cured cancer but they'd rather sell chemo"

And your evidince for this is

@@coolguychapman6685 it’s just Common Sense My Friend, say You owned a Multimillion Dollar Company like Funimation that produces Anime Films wouldn’t You say it would be in the best interest of Your Company if You also had the Original Masters of those films Your producing locked up in a vault somewhere especially a series that makes most of the profits for Your Business like DBZ?

100% BULLSHIT the biggest anime in human history can't release properly. The botched releases are sinister as hell.

I mean the piracy sites would only have footage that’s available right? So if the orange bricks were available the site would use them. I think the site I’m using since kissanime is gone is using the 30th anniversary footage.

Depending on how well they do DBZ (assuming they do) as well as the OG remaster, I can see many people buying them just to rip the video and sync it with their preferred audio tracks.

​@Madara8989 I know for sure I will probably do that. Would love to attempt something like that with the Edited dub to test my video editing skills by recreating the edits

@@Madara8989 I'll probably syn subs and the blue water dub if they ever finish.

We can only hope they are licensed for use in the NA market.

@@Madara8989 That's exactly what I'm going to do, I'm gonna import the sets officially, and see if I can figure out something for subtitles since my Japanese isn't amazing. AB Groupe deserves every penny for going so far to lovingly restore DB

He gets financial gain from making RU-vid videos

To be fair, most of these home release tips are available online. It’s how people have been able to make AMVs for years

I doubt it, these releases are easily available on the High Seas my friend 😉

Nah, 20:52 LMAO

he bought them off nyaa for the amazing price of 0

Walmart Blu-rays are repacks of the 2013 cropped Blu-ray season sets. They use the same exact discs from those releases, the image. quality suffers due to automated Digital Noise Reduction and cropping to make. it look widescreen. The Amazon exclusive is a far superior remaster.

You're talking about Blu-rays then suddenly say the orange bricks won't die. How are they connected exactly?

This comment saved me $130 bucks

@@princeharbingerare you sure?

@@CrispyHulk1 the blu rays use the orange brick versions.

Yeah. They’ve been remastered and undergone more plastic surgery than other series. I don’t like the redone dialogue or the 40 year old Japanese score. I want the Ocean/Funi dubs I grew up with!

VHS is the answer

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I was just thinking the same thing. I thought they were trying to avoid copyright.

@@homarruiz4346 🤡

@@jsmithers. 🤡

@@jsmithers. I hope you make it through whatever has you acting out like this🙏

Yes!

my friend gave me a complete box set for GT and I'm really curious where it stacks up lol

The blue brick DB is what I have. Wonder if they suffer the way the orange bricks do.

@@VaporeonEnjoyer1 they’re not as bad.

From the Dragon Ball Z single VHS tapes in the late 1990s and early 2000s all the way through the steel books of Dragon Ball Z DVD sets in early 2020s. Funimation done terribly bad with the grain and the cropping issues for over 2 decades. So hopefully I think Crunchyroll will do better, and you still have the voice cast members from Funimation that are still intact. So I hope they can release a better Dragon Ball Z DVD and Blu-Ray sets in the future. Same can be said for the original Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball GT sets as well.

Hi is crunchyroll's version bearable? I'm considering buying a VPN because I live in Europe. And already got a subscription too the service.

​@@espen759 the Crunchyroll versions are the digital remaster versions for DBZ I don't recommend because they kinda redubbed and ruined scenes if you are lucky enough to find them get the singles

​@@ZetsuboXIIIand alot of recent editions have this stupid added dubbing where they add a ton of pointless dialogue to fill dead air so scenes can't breathe anymore because someone's CONSTANTLY yaking away in the background it's infuriating.

@@NinjaTyler yeah especially with z when Goku kills kid Buu originally it was silent when he after he says looks like it's the end of the road buu it's a darn shame so now after he says those lines instead of the music playing it says when I first met you you were like a child that didn't know any better

I also caught that after one or two segments, and I respect the effort put in by Mark & his team

Most of that same fanbase don't even have respect for the original music & voices of the show.

That's true. In some Z dub vs Kai dub comparison, I've often seen people complaining about Kai not looking super bright and oversaturated. And I also saw many DBS fan drawings in "Z art style" that were clearly based on the Season Sets awful remaster.

I remember those titles that claimed “REMASTERED 4K [HD]” but they were just the orange bricks and even more zoomed in.

@@jp3813 Unfortunately most of those “fans” don’t even know the original composer passed away a few years ago.

@@dystopianfuture1165 Worse than that, many have trashed his work in order to put Faulconer on a pedestal. What's funny is that they'd also complain about Kai ruining the "original". The latter being the version that starts w/ the repetitive song "Rock the Dragon".

This is so real

Never trust Funimation. I remember buying one of the VHS back in the 90s because it said Uncensored on the box, only to find out it was censored AF.

@@dangerousdays2052lol

​Ocean dub lmao ​@@dangerousdays2052

@@dangerousdays2052 yea it was weird to see ACTUAL BLOOD on Toonami...but then the VHS just had black missing limbs 🤔. Like SSJ2 Gohan's arm censorship at the end of the Cell fight. On Toonami it had about 2-3 streaks of blood running down and I believe his face was bleeding as well. VHS and DVD? Just black scratches and his arm is limp...

I want this release so bad

And remember that AB groupe productions was the same company that gave us the Big green dub, now they are doing wonders.

@@christopher4249 It’s like Funi and AB are opposites of each other, Funi should stick to dubbing and AB should stick to distribution/remasters lmfao

​@@christopher4249 there remasters make them super space warriors compared to funis attempts

Rather ironic that it's the "Big Green" company. But better than the "Saiya People" company, needless to say. It does sound great, and I'm glad the most I've ever bought were a couple of the VHS releases.

@@hitkid2456the “saiya people” company is Speedy Video in Malaysia. The reason it’s so bad is that Speedy is simply just a video store chain, they wanted to sell a dubbed releases of DBZ but didn’t have the rights from (at the time) Pioneer and Saban. To get around this, they had in house staff (that’s right, the retail staff) dub their releases. They had no masters either for the BG music so simply just had to cut the audio during speech parts to include their own audio!

I dunno, I'd still have been super stoked to experience the anime as a kid, quality be damned. We only got the manga back in the day here in Norway, so while that were certainly the better option in retrospect, I still greatly envied the rest of the world back then.

They are still fine

Just a joke, the quality doesn’t matter that much especially as a kid. It’s still the same show

I still have the orange boxes and I'm glad I was able to watch dragon Ball z whenever I want growing up. I watched bootleg films from a man selling DVDs on the side of the street I can handle a washed-out dragon Ball z when I was 12

A lot of videos are just made for content. Growing up with vhs, each release was an upgrade of the last. Previous releases were so dark that it was hard to see anything. Each release also did not finish sagas. The orange bricks were made not only to resolve previous releases not finishing arcs but also resolving the dark picture issue. It was the best release at the time and also had sub and dub for lots of episodes

I have the Complete Australian Dragon Ball Z Madman Singles Boxsets up for sale if Your interested? Which is the Best way to watch the series in My Opinion.

Where would I even get it

​@@felixrivera4922They are on eBay. I bought the entire show this way, DVD singles, and they are uncut starting in the Ginyu Saga on.

They're reprints.

@@TheReelSketchman they arent, they have way better visuals, in 4:3 and great audio, you can listen to it with the english dub/ japanese sub with the japanese audio/bruce score

Imagine wanting war over some drawings 🤡

​@@joshuarichard6827You don't understand metaphor.

Okay mr original trilogy

why is so much of old Dragon Ball/Z green as well?

@@joelanderson4899 He has no idea because he's just parroting some stuff he read on a Star Wars forum

@@balljoint5853 lol

We don't know for sure AB Groupe produced the Big Green dub. It's never really been clarified

Kami works in mysterious ways…

@@mikefromireland Still, the french are responsible for ruinning Dragon Ball in Europe (they're the ones who came up new terms like 'space warriors') but are now going to save it. They're totally redeeming themselves.

@@aerogun18 German dub of DBZ was a bliss. Cha la Head Cha la (in German however), Kikuchi OST, mostly uncensored, completely unaltered and very based.

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@@jsmithers. you fr

@@thedrunkguyfromthecornerst8164Cry 🤡

​@@jsmithers. 🤡

​@@jsmithers.This is why abortion should be legalized lol

French people are very passionate about art. Even Ubisoft sometimes! It's inspiring

Hopefully they do english dub or else its useless.

well, the fans did them, even if would've been cool to have official good releases

Easy it's a money grab

As if it was treated right before the home releases w/ all the censorship, character altering lines, replaced music, etc...

@@darthkage2163if they release a good one, they can’t sell you another one later.

Dbz is overrated af

@@adrenalinex4 That is the Majin seal talking.

Wait, you are really broke and homeless? Edit: turns out it was poorly phrased and was re-edited to correct that.

Feeling bad for you Home Release People. You deserved better.

Still have no idea what he's trying to say after the edit

Way more than that at this point since there’s constantly more people watching it for the first time

especially since its had so many releases, you'd think it would've been perfected by now. But AB gives me hope, and if they partner with the english rights holders then we might finally get a definitive dragon ball home release.

My nostalgia refuses to let me see it any other way than the original😅

Look, most people haven't even seen OG dragon ball at all, it's not surprising that most people haven't seen it in any decent quality.

@@TBurr030 *“The original…”*

Naruto’s always worn the same color of orange, I will say though the orange and black looks better than with blue

Orange is my favorite color 😢

@@myonman1 Yeah his second outfit is kinda better than his first one which looked just horrible with bright orange, blue and white around the collar area that made his pre-Shippuden outfit look really awful, mainly because the black color work better for orange and as such it look a bit better. However that's not saying much given how terrible Naruto's first outfit and the fact that, disappointingly, his second outfit looks way to similar to the first one but with more black color in the upper area. A better outfit for the first half of Shippuden would be an orange sleeveless coat, a black shirt, orange pants, black boots and black gloves while the one during and after The Pain Arc is is the same but with all clothes are black with orange lines.

@@TerribleTake Sorry about that. To be fair Orange can look cool if used correctly with the right color and outfit such as Deathstroke The Terminator.

@@stefanradebach2889 I mean everyone’s outfit in shippuden is pretty much a slight alteration of their pt1 look other than maybe Sasuke, Choji, Temari, and Hinata

I guess the Old Bastard finally did something right. Good on you, Old Bastard.

They're not.

Parece que não tem nada a ver, afinal teve o relançamento do Grupo PlayArtes em 2012/a Globo segurando os diretos ate 2017

Australia got a release of DB refered to as the "yellow bricks" or "banana bricks" slight step up from the blue bricks. And considered "good enough" by most.

Totally support this. That dub is a comedic masterpiece

Fuck that.

Just out of curiosity (and not knocking on you or anything) but does that spelling of Vegeta come from a specific country? Because I know in Japanese it’s “Beji-ta”. Anyway just curious

@@jaguarnero thats how they pronounced in the Big Green Dub. Ve-jit-uh instead of Ve-geet-uh

@@jaguarnero It's like saying the word Vegetable, but without the "ble" so I can't really blame them for going with that pronunciation. Vegeta/Bejita sounds cooler.

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I'm still sad about the loss of the Level sets. Even just being a B across the board by Mark's rating is alright because it's literally was the best home release for me. Not to mention that the later blu-ray releases that Funimation would later put out ARE AN ABOMINATION BY COMPARISON just makes the loss even more painful

RIP Level Sets

R.I.P Level Sets

I think the "level set" marketing was weird too. Like I didn't understand what that meant. I knew it must be analogous to "seasons" but I think most casuals might not understand what they were purchasing and passed on them

If only they were released after the Orange Bricks rather than the Dragon Boxes

People were happier before social media

​@@guyanesegal3166Social Media/outrage_culture ruined so many things. Actively gives people reasons to be upset for viewership

@@spaceaustrailia5895 we can still have a right to be mad dawg, it says alot about a company for them to not even to be able to properly preserve their work and the fans gotta do it for them

​@@spaceaustrailia5895 I don't know man, asking for a good product that you pay for isn't really something revolutionary here

The VHS tapes are probably (and unironically) the best quality you can watch the series in

The streaming services use various home releases as the source, and are generally going to come with a lower bitrate and other problems common with streaming to boot. Exactly what source you're going to get has varied over the years, but usually it's either been the Blu-Ray season sets or occasionally the Dragon Boxes.

I'm sure Mark would be mostly positive about DBZ especially if he's reviewing the manga

@@Ash_Wen-li ikr it seemed odd bc i watched his anime ranking vid and he spoke so highly about dbz

​@@Ash_Wen-li ye. Dragon Ball Z has a lot of go to material. The manga I would say definitely has better stuff. But I would argue that the anime has done better to other characters such as Gohan.

Me too XD

They also threw Vic under the bus to virtue signal.

yet many fans seme to trusty toei of db were to be reebot we all knwo toei wood ruin it with blood hate carp

​​​@@dansmith1661 It wasn't virtue signaling. In fact, I don't even think they believed all that bs. If anything, I think those vindictive five were looking for an excuse to "KickVic" out of voice acting and found one in the convenient form of the #MeToo movement.

@@dansmith1661 ..Vic committed sexual assault. Multiple people came out with stories about him doing shit like that, and while Vic has tried to sue the people that came out against him under Defamation, the case was overruled, as well as his multiple attempted appeals, due to the fact that he couldn't actually prove that his victims were lying about the fact he assaulted them. And even after the fact he's shown to be nothing but a creep. Like not wearing pants on a livestream with a bunch of women and "accidentally" reaching up and lowering the camera to show him in boxers only to then get kicked off afterwards. Im not a Crunchyroll/Funimation fan at all but Vic is an awful person.

@@gspandem1204 I don't believe hearsay or women.

Lol

I have the orange bricks and I never noticed the difference I like the orange bricks tho idc what anyone says

Steelbooks are excellent, outside of a little too much DNR/loss of grain. I would recommend them, especially if you’re coming from the orange bricks and have an HDTV.

Nerd

@@joshuarichard6827Nerds are cool.

@@_PuppetMaster86Nerd.

@@Drooook nerd.

​@@Drooook Ok, shotgun pfp.... F***king tool 😎😎😎 👌

you know why?....cuz WE ARE SPOILED BEYOND COMPREHENSION. We didnt CARE about no dang "lines" being missing or "Sounds being altered" back when we were JUST getting into the series'. We appreciated even GETTING A SHOW AT ALL. "knowledge" is such a fking double-edged sword because WE get it, and take advantage of it in the worst ways. We see what something was, and complain that it doesn't look the same way it did ALL THESE YEARS LATER. if those lines that are missing bothers yall so much, go READ THE MANGA the way it was originally intended to be received. if u want to hear a weird Asian lady voice over....go do that. if u care THAT MUCH about the score.....look up the songs on here. point im tryna make is 👆THIS is why we ALL say "ppl are soft nowadays" cuz yall do stuff 👆LIKE THIS. WHEN ARE WE GONNA GROW UP?? IT'S A CARTOON. WE'RE 👉GROWN ASS MEN👈 FIND A SOLUTION and STOP CRYING 😂😂😂

​@@home9dog2blue199evolving backwards, are we?

apparently it's because they are so crappy youtube's auto content filter just doesn't recognize them