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The Empire Strikes Back Featurette: How Walkers Walk with Dennis Muren 

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Dennis Muren looks back on how Industrial Light & Magic animated the AT-AT walkers from The Empire Strikes Back's Battle of Hoth sequence -- and the inspiration for the techniques used.
Originally, Muren and his team were unsure of how they would bring the AT-ATs to life. The first idea was to build an actual robot that could move by itself, but that was deemed too complicated and costly. Instead, Muren pushed for stop-motion, citing the influence of King Kong and the realization that the staccato look of stop-motion would be appropriate for machines. Models were manipulated a frame at a time, animated in front of painted backgrounds instead of blue screen, with baking soda was used in place of snow.
It was shot at 24 frames per second, resulting in about 5 seconds of footage per day of work. For explosions, high speed photography was used, and cutouts were used for background walkers.
One of the early ideas was to build an actual robot version that would walk on its own, but that would prove too costly and complicated. Muren, whose background was in stop-motion animation, pushed to have the sequence done using that technique -- since the AT-ATs were machines anyway, the staccato look of stop-motion would be appropriate. So stop-motion models were built and manipulated in front of paintings, as opposed to blue screen, and baking soda was used for the snowy landscape. The set itself had trap doors so that animators could pop up, animate the model, go back down, and shoot a frame of film. Photo cutouts were used for walkers in the background, and smaller models were created to convey a sense of scale and depth in the shots.

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@ChrisPirillo
@ChrisPirillo 10 лет назад
I always wondered how this was done. And now my life is complete.
@mateusz73
@mateusz73 10 лет назад
makes you really appreciate all the hard work that went into the original trilogy
@mattdawg83686
@mattdawg83686 10 лет назад
Some people have actors and sport stars as their heroes. Not me. The guys in this video are my heroes.
@OrionsAngel
@OrionsAngel 10 лет назад
I saw Empire when I was 7 years old. The Walkers left an impression on me and still do to this day. There's something magical about the way they look and move. A lot of modern CGI can't even come close to these sort of movie special effects. What was so special about movies back then is that no one had any idea how the special effects were done. Even adults were scratching their heads. That's called movie magic and that's sorely lacking in today's modern movies, when you can just say, oh it's just CGI. At least for teen and adult moviegoers.
@MaheshWalatara
@MaheshWalatara 10 лет назад
Stunning- it looks soo good in the film- far superior to any CGI.
@Darthadios
@Darthadios 10 лет назад
Echo station 3-TA, we spotted an Imperial Walker on the drawer !
@CashlessCollector
@CashlessCollector 10 лет назад
This vid really makes one appreciate the time and work that went into the Hoth battle. Way better than crappy CGI!
@duringmydeath
@duringmydeath 10 лет назад
What a genius! What an incredible moving work of art. Ugh what I would do to be able to go back in time and be a part of it...
@calabiyou
@calabiyou 10 лет назад
genius, i love dennis muren and richard edlund. No photoshop back then..... what these people managed to do!!!!!!!!
@markstimac6461
@markstimac6461 10 лет назад
If you grab the scroll bar under the video and move it back and forth quickly you can see how much the AT-ATs move during this whole clip.
@Mr-Tibbster
@Mr-Tibbster 10 лет назад
Just wow, all that work and dedication
@ASarneck108
@ASarneck108 10 лет назад
True dedication. So much work went into all the models and the animation.
@WillPattenden
@WillPattenden 10 лет назад
I say again...This is why I LOVE Star Wars and animation! This is awesome!
@RonanB99
@RonanB99 10 лет назад
Amazing!
@CUfan712510jd12340987
@CUfan712510jd12340987 10 лет назад
AWESOME!!!!!!
@elisahuberman3408
@elisahuberman3408 10 лет назад
It's pretty spectacular!
@chickenslice86
@chickenslice86 10 лет назад
Cool video i love stuff like this
@lunhil1264
@lunhil1264 10 лет назад
I still like the look of physical models over cgi.
@hdmoviesource
@hdmoviesource 10 лет назад
That requires some amazing patience, wow.
@benmasta5814
@benmasta5814 8 лет назад
i always loved how flawed/impractical the AT-AT are due to the four-legged, top-heavy, design they have. I mean, the only real guns are the two cannons on the chin of it's head. I get that these two guns are basically super cannons, but the fact that the AT-AT is even required to splay it's legs and turn it's body just to shoot at a passing speeder that is maybe 30-40 degrees off of its straight forward trajectory. All of that impracticality still managed to look cool and powerful lmao. i never understood why they were much of a threat to the super fast snow speeders considering that the AT-AT don't seem to be equipped with any weaponry able to fire beyond the ~35(just a guess) degree pivoting limit of the head. Besides tripping them with the cables, it seems like the AT-AT would be seriously vulnerable to flanking passes by the speeders, especially since the AT-AT were barely staggered in their approach. Its well-established canon that the neck joint that connects the head to the body is a unarmoured/unshieled(?) weakpoint and even a fully functional/undamaged AT-AT can be destroyed with a direct hit of a laser cannon. Even if a speeder's cannons arent strong enough for a 1 shot kill, a few passes by a couple speeders should be more than enough i would think lol I'm sure in the expanded universe they played up the walker's firepower/viability, but im going off what i see in the movies and shows lol. Basically i feel like the AT-AT walker's ONLY favourable design quality is it's excessive height lol. Seeing as i feel that is its best quality, maybe "excessive" isnt the right word lol.
@joshuahedrick5380
@joshuahedrick5380 8 лет назад
They don't need to be very maneuverable. The canon sources provided tell us that the at at is the next strongest vehicle to the star destroyer or Death Star. And in the battle of hoth we saw that using battle tactics where they were deployed far away showed that they then had time to aim for on coming enemies. Also they are built in HUGS numbers, so basically ,big guns,strong armor,and badass look equals an awesome machine. One more thing, the design Isent meant to be practicle, while it has legs so it can conquer almost any terrain. The creature like shape is meant to inspire fear in the enemy.
@ProtoZealott
@ProtoZealott 10 лет назад
If only the "newer" 3 were made with this kind of care and love..
@m3gusta17
@m3gusta17 10 лет назад
I just realized how AT-AT's are essentially a futuristic take on the war elephants used by Hannibal. Terrifying and intimidating, but, like all weapons, possessing a weakness.
@AnthonySkubic
@AnthonySkubic 10 лет назад
Yeah, the Alps.
@m3gusta17
@m3gusta17 10 лет назад
lol no, I mean a combat weakness. The Romans under Scipio Africanus defeated them at Zama with a relatively simple but ingenious tactic.
@AnthonySkubic
@AnthonySkubic 10 лет назад
Tell me how the rebel alliance used velites and columns of troops to funnel the AT-AT's into a panicked stupor.
@m3gusta17
@m3gusta17 10 лет назад
lol stop being a smartass. It's pointless and annoying. The Romans found a weak point in a very intimidating opposing force and developed a strategy to take advantage of it. The Rebels did the same with their tow cables, immobilizing the walkers in order to strike at its weak point.
@AnthonySkubic
@AnthonySkubic 10 лет назад
So your revised premise is that in each scenario a specific method, a tactic (not a strategy), is developed to exploit a fatal weakness in the core of an opponent's strength. Which is correct; however, my comments are aiming at the ambiguity of your original statement. Based on your description of the relation between Hannibal's elephants and the AT-AT, "[they are] Terrifying and intimidating, but, like all weapons, possessing (sic) a weakness.", one can deduce that the Death Star, or any number of military pieces, is also a 'futuristic take' on Hannibal's elephants. The point being, you draw a very weak argument between the similarities of the war elephants and the AT-AT.
@KahSemeraro
@KahSemeraro 10 лет назад
Nice :)
@thereaIkatsketch
@thereaIkatsketch 10 лет назад
God! 5 walkers in total that's sooooo many hours of moving legs and what not.
@xbaxdark
@xbaxdark 3 года назад
It says "Dennis Muren" narrates this but that's incorrect, it's actually Phil Tippet, although Muren was the ILM supervisor it was Phil Tippet that actually worked on the AT-ATs.
@PeppyTheCrawdad
@PeppyTheCrawdad 10 лет назад
Very cool. Wish I could hear a single friggin word being said, though... why is the sound on all these video so quiet?!
@SledgeNE
@SledgeNE 10 лет назад
How are the big AT-ATS's are landed on hoth? The spaceships must be very big to carry them from coruscants Walker-Factory to a far planet.
@DavidWMiller
@DavidWMiller 10 лет назад
They are very big. Answered your own question ;) See starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Y-85_Titan_dropship or starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Theta-class_AT-AT_barge Also, AT-ATs were generally built at Kuat, not Coruscant.
@seanwilkerson7558
@seanwilkerson7558 10 лет назад
Better special effects that CGI by far.
@raptorshinryu
@raptorshinryu 10 лет назад
I NEED one of those models. Please.
@WhiteTigerShiro
@WhiteTigerShiro 10 лет назад
Sound quality is horrible. Even after double-checking my sound settings, it's very quiet even with my speakers turned way up. So all this video seems like is some fast-forwarding that doesn't tell me anything while some low mumbling goes-on in the background. :/
@ClarkusMarkus
@ClarkusMarkus 10 лет назад
Now show us how the opening scene of Revenge of the Sith was made.
@DtWolfwood
@DtWolfwood 10 лет назад
5 seconds a day. Just to put that into prospective, If the shot was 15 minutes long. it would have taken them 180 days to animate it. Yikes.
@ricardorusso01
@ricardorusso01 10 лет назад
FIRST!
@Xalocin
@Xalocin 10 лет назад
FIRSTER!
@kurvos
@kurvos 10 лет назад
People can't just simply say they love this - they have to be juvenile and trash-talk CGI and the prequels. Grow up and get over yourselves already. Yes, it IS amazing how much effort they put into this. But people CAN still work their asses off with things nowadays too. Look at behind-the-scenes for Lord of the Rings 1-3 and The Hobbit - those movies have a lot of CGI, but Peter Jackson put an incredible amount of effort and passion and love into those movies. Don't deny that just because you're a selective biased old-school purist. -_-
@Termnath
@Termnath 10 лет назад
We're not saying all CG is bad, we're saying CG is bad when it makes up 80% of your movie like prequels. CG is fantastic when used properly (Jurassic Park, lord of the rings, first two narnia movies...) with a mix of sets, models, and locations. The problem people have with the prequels is that CG is used when not its not needed (CG chewbacca, every clone was CG, CG enviroments, whole portions were filmed on a blue screen without giving actors much to work with) and would even look better with practical effects. That's the CG laziness we're talking about.
@kurvos
@kurvos 10 лет назад
Naythan Millya First of all, it wasn't "lazy" to make so much CGI in movies back in 1999 with Episode 1. It was a lot more expensive and difficult to work in, and the CGI in it is very impressive even to this day, even though some of it arguably didn't need to be CGI. If anything, George Lucas was a pioneer with the movie almost as much as his original trilogy. Episode 1 is the first live action movie with that much CGI in it, and to work characters in with CGI environments. Second - alright, fair enough, CGI is lazy a lot of times and inexcusable. But that doesn't make a movie bad, and doesn't make it deserve to be overly bashed. I love the prequels as much as the original trilogy, and I should allowed to. Movie taste is very very subjective, which people far too often forget. I can find just as many flaws in the original trilogy than the prequel trilogy - only thing the original has going for it that is objective is that it was a lot more influential. That, and it of course didn't use CGI (even with his newer versions of the OT, the CGI isn't nearly as overused as in the prequels). But as for how good or bad all the movies are is all subjective. And I know a lot of others like me who loves the prequels, who feel really bad about all this unneeded hatred. They feel like they don't deserve to love what they love - haters says the most horrible things to them, and to me. I've been told a lot of times I deserve to die or should hang myself for loving the prequels. The Amazing Atheist here on RU-vid has said to me directly that there must be something wrong with me for loving Episode 1 and having that one as my favorite movie. He said that if I know what's good for me, I'll "change my mind". I'm not making this up, you can find him saying it to me in 2 of his Q&A videos. I ask you, what is more important? To kick a not only dead, not only rotten, but skeleton horse and bash the prequels on and on, or to say that people are allowed to have whatever opinions they want because it's all subjective? I'm sorry, but... this hate for us prequel lovers is no better than homophobia. And I should know - I'm both a prequel lover AND homosexual. And yes, I even do believe all the prequel hate can contribute to people committing suicide - especially when it turns into personal attacks, and when it comes to talking like the prequels are objectively bad. Please, stop all this bullshit hatred. You don't like the prequels and hate them? That's fine. Everyone knows it already. I think this is a lot more fucking important than to kick the skeleton horse further, as said. We need less hate and more love in this world. :'(
@Phaileen001
@Phaileen001 10 лет назад
kurvos Dude I think you're over reacting a bit. Naythan Millya didn't say anything about the prequels being bad and you just wrote a book about how much you love CGI and the prequels. He was perfectly right with the overuse of CG in the prequels, especially Episode 3. And you just compared the hate for the prequels to homophobia, that's just stupid.
@DarksaberForce
@DarksaberForce 10 лет назад
My problem is how the massive use of CGI in place of a good story and characters. Hollywood films cost 100-300 million because and rarely make their money back.
@kurvos
@kurvos 10 лет назад
DarksaberForce The CGI isn't replacing the good story and characters. The story and characters are to me as good as in the original trilogy, so please cut that biased bullshit out. Is CGI overused in the movies? Possibly, but that's another subject. A lot less is CGI in the movies than people think - they were building lots of models, FYI.
@branscombe_
@branscombe_ 10 лет назад
childood ruined..
@TaubeMovies
@TaubeMovies 10 лет назад
C.G.I.Animators are couch potato's these days!!
@djsash77oldmanradic
@djsash77oldmanradic 9 лет назад
This is amazing. Let's be honest. CGI sucks ass still
@OrionsAngel
@OrionsAngel 10 лет назад
I saw Empire when I was 7 years old. The Walkers left an impression on me and still do to this day. There's something magical about the way they look and move. A lot of modern CGI can't even come close to these sort of movie special effects. What was so special about movies back then is that no one had any idea how the special effects were done. Even adults were scratching their heads. That's called movie magic and that's sorely lacking in today's modern movies, when you can just say, oh it's just CGI. At least for teen and adult moviegoers.
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