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The End Game-November through January on Guadalcanal with Dave Holland-Episode 124

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This week Seth and Bill welcome back historian Dave Holland to talk about the last few weeks on Guadalcanal as the 2nd Marine Division, 2nd Raider Battalion and US Army attempt to wipe out the remaining Japanese on the island. The trio discusses the Long Patrol, Gifu, Sea Horse and Galloping Horse as the campaign ashore winds mercifully down to a finale.
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@joebombero1 Год назад

In 1997 my brother and I hired an off shore fishing boat to spend the day catching Red Snapper off South Padre Island. When we arrived shortly before dawn we were sad to see we would be sharing the boat with a group of old men. I thought we had been swindled and almost had a few words with the boat owners. Soon after the boat left the dock, however, we realized this was not a nursing home outing. These old men were smoking cigarettes, one cigar, and popping open beers - and the sun had not even risen yet! They drank continuously throughout the day and not one ever got sick. We caught a ridiculous amount of fish and one small shark. It turned out we shared the boat with a reunion of old World War II Marines, who shared with us their adventures. Those guys spilled so many "F" bombs hahaha. Hard as nails and didn't give a sh!t anymore. We felt honored by their company. I will never forget it.

@flparkermdpc 5 месяцев назад

You lucky buggers!

@steventoal6594 3 месяца назад

You were blessed that day.

@MadLudwig Год назад

Love the opening dialog. That comment about PT at 0500 was priceless. I remember being in command, standing in front of my troops at 0500 in PT gear and freezing rain one morning... and thinking to myself, "What asshole came up with the idea of doing PT at this hour and under these conditions? Oh, wait a minute... that was ME!" 😆

@steventoal6594 3 месяца назад

That's funny.

@DS_Boston 9 месяцев назад

In the book “Shots Fired in Anger” National Guard Officer George discusses his experience on Guadalcanal. The Army units had M1 Garands and thus a lot more firepower than USMC units at the time. The joint operations extended at times down to squad level. He describes going on a reconnaissance patrol, with fire support from a Marine mortar platoon.

@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 9 месяцев назад

Great book

@edmundmcalister119 Год назад

My grandfather was Brig. Gen. Edmund B. Sebree, who commanded Americal Division in the end stages of the campaign. Great episode; Dave Holland is a fabulous resource!

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

Bill responding: Wow! We talk about the establishment of Americal and why it's called that in one of our Guadalcanal episodes. My great uncle Joe was a member of the division.

@dabda8510 5 месяцев назад

So happy to hear from a direct descendant of a notable person of the war and US history. Often when direct family descendants don't keep the memory alive, stories of such people are often lost forever, despite the efforts to keep them alive by the likes of museums and the awesome people putting up great content on this channel. So please keep the memory of your grandfather alive through your children and grandchildren and on. God bless.

@FlukeTog Год назад

This spring I’ll collect all the hand written and drawn documents, orders, maps, and photos in our possession passed down. There’s bound to be some pieces to a puzzle mixed in. I will get that stuff to Dave. My grandad would have liked him. Semper Fi

@flparkermdpc 5 месяцев назад

What a wonderful tribute. And Dave will be VERY grateful. You may be starting something much bigger. I hope so!

@Jakal-pw8yq 4 месяца назад

That's a very great and unselfish thing to do and you know that Dave will treat it with respect and reverence and pass that information on down the line! This is how history and the memories of your ancestors stay alive

@thomasgarrison3949 Год назад

I feel that Dugout Doug Macarthur got a Medal of Honor for deserting the Philippines, that Chesty Puller should have got at least one Medal of Honor for defending Guadalcanal. Another Outstanding video.

@tonybanke3560 Год назад

McArthur froze when the Philippine's was attacked. The most over rated Military officer in WW2.

@refuge42 10 месяцев назад

Chesty puller is the most decorated Marine in US history wiki has an extensive review of his awards how they were earned. Criticizing MacArthur is just plain ignorant. His commanding officer the president of the United States ordered him to leave provided a sub for him to do it he turned to the sub down and left on PT boats which was much more dangerous. MacArthur was greatly admired by Americans and then again in WWII after he retired in 37 was recommisoned in 41. I suggest you do some background reading before you take cheap shots at soldiers whose history you don't seem to understand or appreciate.

@stuartdollar9912 10 месяцев назад

@@refuge42 He was also a grandstanding SOB whose press greatly exceeded his actual accomplishments. The fact MacArthur received a Medal of Honor is an insult to every other person that has ever been awarded the same award.

@yyz4761 9 месяцев назад

One of my great uncles was in the Bataan death march. The local paper did a big story on his ordeal when he got home after the war and one of my great aunts cut it out and saved it. He hated MacArthur more than the Japanese

@DS_Boston 9 месяцев назад

McArthur was nominated for the Medal of Honor after the Veracruz mission, and after a patrol during WWI. He had , many many faults but cowardice was not one of them.

@christopherslaughter2263 8 месяцев назад

People make a big deal of our technology but really,it's the ingenuity of our guys on the ground that makes our Army so formidable. The Japanese and the Germans get bogged down in protocol.

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar 8 месяцев назад

But by 1944 we have 4 times the number of ships than the Japanese. Ingenuity isn't going to overcome that difference.

@christopherslaughter2263 8 месяцев назад

@@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar no it's not I was talking about tech and getting bogged down by military protocal

@davidlavigne207 Год назад

I have been watching the entire Guadalcanal Campaign videos over the last few weeks. These were some of the most interesting, informative and educational discussions I have ever listened to. Thanks for all the effort by Seth, Bill and all their expert guests for informing us about what I feel was indeed the true turning point of the war. I'm going to go back and watch the recordings from Pearl Harbor onwards.

@scottsherman6889 10 месяцев назад

A very complicated campaign, and the podcasts have been outstanding!

@HDBee 9 месяцев назад

My dad always talked about how the Marines took more casualties than the Army because of their tactics in the Pacific. He said that the Army used their arty and air assets more to soften up the enemy during their assaults. He always gave Peleliu as an example, But he was in the Army.

@jollyjohnthepirate3168 Месяц назад

My dad said the same thing. Particularly later in the war, the leadership of Marine Platoon, Company and Battalions really got weak. My dad talked about Marine Platoons loosing about 1/2 there strength by doing a frontal assaults on Japanese machine gun armed block houses. Maybe they expanded too quickly.

@knutdergroe9757 11 дней назад

The ARMY says the MARINE CORPS does nothing but frontal assults. Amphibious assult is a frontal assult. In the Pacific between fighting on islands and in jungles, most of the battles become frontal assults. There not a lot of room to move around. So, you charge in, Hang on, and fight like hell. If you don't win, your brothers may die trying to. So, win and make the enemy lose and die.

@jeffreymartin8448 Год назад

Dave Holland is able to recite such detail. Almost as if he was at each battle. While engaged in solidary sabbaticals on the Guadalcanal battle fields, I bet he was there with them. What a treasure this man is.

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

We agree

@psymetal Год назад

My uncle was a marine on Guadalcanal and got shot twice there.. my father was a radar operator on b24s in the panama zone and Solomons later on. Ive always had an interest in the pacific war. You guys keep up the good work.

@wagstaffe7 Год назад

So nice to see the Captain looking so healthy again.

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

He thanks you!

@tkraft63 Год назад

This series has been a Master Class on Guadalcanal with Master Historians, thank you very much.

@FlukeTog Год назад

P.S. It was U.S. Army Veterans who showed up at our Marines funeral with a gun salute and a huge show of respect in waterbury CT. They all knew his story and I thank them from the bottom of my heart. I’m glad you’re highlighting the Army’s contributions.

@user-bm4ym4fl1s 11 месяцев назад

Great episode. My dad was part of the U.S. Army in Guadalcanal. He never talked about his experience there. He enlisted in 1939 and was stationed in Pearl Harbor and was Medically discharged in January 1943? As a result of having contracted malaria in Guadalcanal. Thank you for all your hard work and information on this channel

@kilcar Год назад

You speak of malaria in the Solomon's; my dad was a CPO with the 20th NCB IN Noumea, Townsville, Then, on to Woodlark Island and Banika in the Russell Islands, in the Louisaides Island Chain 200 miles south of New Ireland, and about the same distance from Bougainville. He suffered recurring malaria and neuritis for the rest of his life, he had and took Atabrine,but he still got malaria. I remembered buying quinine for him even in the 1970's

@lhartatt Год назад

I add, the next biography you have led me to is that of admiral Willis lee. Again, thanks.

@philipcunningham4125 4 месяца назад

I second that.

@barryrammer7906 Год назад

I'm proud of our Seabees defending Henderson field. Could you talk more about them also in the future. Thanks if you can.

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

Will add to the list!

@Perfusionist01 Год назад

You guys are tremendous! I have been interested in Guadalcanal since I saw the 1943 movie "Guadalcanal Diary" in the 3rd grade. I have read a number of books, but you guys still bring up some material that I haven't seen, or you and your guests explain the actions in a more concise way. Thank you for your efforts. As long as you talk, I will listen.

@rembrandt972ify Год назад

One thing that I never understood, even as a teenager. Why didn't the Japanese use their air assets to supply Guadalcanal? I realize it would be very difficult to supply 30,000 troops 600 miles away from Rabaul, but they could have sent them something. They had bunches of long-range aircraft and many aircrew well trained in night operations. I do know they did some air transport in New Guinea, just not on the scale of the allies.

@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 Год назад

They actually attempted to drop supply bundles at times especially at the start of the campaign. There are several photos of captured bundles.

@HeedTheLorax Год назад

No C-47s or anything close, not to mention no airfield so they would of had to air dropped supplies. I've never heard of the Japanese attempting anything like that.

@rembrandt972ify Год назад

@@HeedTheLorax That isn't exactly true, the Japanese license-built hundreds of DC-3s, the military version of which was called the C-47. They also bought a few. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showa%2FNakajima_L2D

@TheBruceGday Год назад

DC-3s aren’t exactly the same as C-47s. One is an airliner with passenger seating, one is a cargo plane. Perhaps Japanese military did not see the benefit of time and cost to convert the airliners into cargo planes. Why they didn’t use their knowledge from the license built DC-3s to produce purpose-built cargo planes, I don’t know.

@TheBruceGday Год назад

Their paratroops used the Mitsubishi Ki-57, so those could have been used. So good question.

@BlitherVids Год назад

Fantastic as always, guys. I love it when you have guys like Dave Holland or Jon Parshall on to get their expertise as well.

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

More to come!

@wadeenyart9676 11 месяцев назад

I agree Dave and, or, Jon rock. I love them both

@flparkermdpc 5 месяцев назад

The idea proffered to get to Dave papers, letters, relics for a beginning to a Guadalcanal museum. It's a wonderful idea.

@Jaysqualityparts 11 месяцев назад

Love his answer “you don’t own me” touché.

@captainbinghamton1319 Год назад

Once again you folks have hit one out of the park. I would love to see you do a podcast on Peleliu. It was a horrific battle that many thought was unnecessary.

@sethparidon8654 Год назад

We'll get there, I promise you that.

@vincentlavallee2779 Год назад

It was totally unnecessary. But that doesn't take away its ferocity and how the Marines did, what they went thru, and its impact on them. This is one of the very few mistakes Nimitz made in the War because he could have said no, but instead he agreed with MacArthur. But IF they really thought that the airfield on this island was a real threat to the Leyte Gulf landing, they could have simply bombed it over and over with medium bombers and with B-17s. The Pacific series does do this campaign justice.

@captainbinghamton1319 Год назад

@@vincentlavallee2779 I agree. Neutralize and isolate it like they did to Rabaul and Truk.

@grathian Год назад

CAM division was the second time a US Division fought that was combined US Army/ US Marines. The first was the 2cd Division fighting in France in WWI.

@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 Год назад

Your correct with the 4th Brigade. If the war would have went into 1919 there were plans to form the first ever Marine Division. I was referring to WW2 in this episode.

@Thumpalumpacus Год назад

I grab a swig of beer every time Seth says "abundantly". Not swaying as much tonight, lol.

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

Haha. We all have words we probably say too much. For Bill, it's "absolutely."

@rogerpattube Год назад

My favourite is ‘Battle wagon’

@Thumpalumpacus Год назад

@@rogerpattube Gosh, I'd be hammered by the end of this vid. "A man's got to know his limitations", lol.

@babychuma1 Год назад

Another stellar episode, glad to see Dave back with his encyclopedic knowledge of the geography.

@mycroft1905 Год назад

Yet another fascinating broadcast, gentlemen. 28 years in Australia has certainly resulted in a unique amalgam of vowel sounds, Mr Holland. TFP

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

Alabama mixed with a trace of down under.

@genenoud9048 Год назад

@@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Alabama is are down under

@richardmardis2492 Год назад

Love that messed up accent! 😂❤

@flparkermdpc 10 месяцев назад

@genenoud9048 you meant "OUR" Down Under regarding Alabama

@stevemccoy554 Год назад

Woohoo! Mornin guys! Meanwhile back in Guadalcanal...

@robmackenzie7171 Год назад

Just discovered this podcast: it is fantastic! Can't wait to see how you talk about the RN carrier seconded to US Navy and how British Pacific Fleet contributed later on

@chadrowe8452 Год назад

Armoured carriers and they took some kamikaze hits

@rogerpattube Год назад

You’re going to wait a long time. This series is only about American activity.

@grathian Год назад

"USS Robin" (HMS Victorious) paired with Saratoga first half of 1943 out of Noumea.

@richardcall7447 Год назад

Heck, the Army and the Navy were doing VERY well in joint operations at least as far back as the Civil War!

@hilogreg5216 Год назад

Ever since I was a young boy when my parents purchased their first set of encyclopedias I have been fascinated with the Pacific Theater of WW 2. Now late in life I have been thrilled to discover your excellent Pod Cast on the Pacific war. You are doing a fantastic service digging into the little know details. Since you asked for suggestions have you ever given any thought to doing an episode on the importance of the PBY squadrons in the Pacific campaign, especially in the dark early days of New Guinea and the Solomons

@billyhouse1943 5 месяцев назад

Thank you.. I’m in the process of catching up. I started from episode one. I started this after visiting the museum in Fredericksburg. I live in Georgetown Tx, retired, and catching up will take some time…

@richardmardis2492 Год назад

Even though my first memories are of the Philippines as a young child- I was also raised at Ft. Bragg as a boy- and the European theatre is my strong suit. Thanks for getting me excited about the Pacific 👍

@FlukeTog Год назад

Good morning. Thanks for all the hard work. Great episode. Close to home familiar story’s.

@kf6bka Год назад

Dave, thank you so much for being up early to do this. Your knowledge of this is so amazing!

@MyNivri Год назад

Tank you for the pResentations on GC. My uncle was a marine that was there for the campaign. He never spoke about it. I know he did suffer from malaria which he contracted there. But not much else was ever said.

@markpaul-ym5wg Год назад

Correspondent Richard tregaskis wrote the book Guadalcanal diary which later was made into a Hollywood movie called the thin red line and had an all star cast in 1998.

@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 Год назад

James Jones wrote the book The Thin Red Line which the movie was made from. Tragaskis book was made into a movie in 1943 with the same title: Guadalcanal Diary.

@dcl1019 Год назад

Another great episode Gentlemen, thank you very much for all this work. Very learnful... and equally enjoyable.

@patrickshanley4466 Год назад

My dad often regailed my brother and I about his time with a sea bee battalion in the late stages of Guadalcanal. One of his favorite topics was “WASHING MACHINE CHARLIE “ and the trouble those planes caused. Not exactly big topic with strategic implications. Maybe you guys could say a word about it . Keep up the great work 😊

@fredkruse9444 Год назад

Washing Machine Charlie was in an episode of McHale's Navy. :)

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

We mention it in a few episodes, including the yet-to-air one on the Cactus Air Force.

@Montana_horseman 25 дней назад

Great podcast and work by everyone and glad I found this channel. Dave Holland is fantastic guest, I've seen every video Dave has produced. I'm older so grew up around a lot of Veterans of WW1 and WW2. The man who mentored me to become a silver smith and gem cutter was a veteran of both 1and 2. Great men who helped shape who I became later in life. 👍

@richardrigling4906 Год назад

These are great presentation/discussions. However, it would help if you could patch in maps supporting the discussions. I'm learning a lot and erasing some bad info all at once.

@juantanamo33 Год назад

Awesome! A long episode with Dave! Perfect birthday present thanks guys! Learned a ton as usual!

@christopherpabsst7260 Год назад

Having only recently discovered your podcast series. I can’t tell you just how much I enjoy your discussions on the Pacific War, which in my opinion, gets far less attention than the ETO. Keep up the great work.

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

Thanks

@gravitypronepart2201 Год назад

Dave has been the star of the who Guadalcanal series, and its been an gold mine of insights. BZ Sir. Thank you guys for this podcast. My Dad was in the Atmy and served in the Philippines toward the end of the war as a medical orderly. He helped Survivors of the POW camps. He was in Pasig, the Stadium in Manila and the hospital at Bagio. I wish I knew what unit he was in. I seem to remimber him saying something about the Second Mechanised Calvery, but I dont know for sure. Maybe when you get to it, I'll be able to figure it out. I'm subbed, so I'll be around for that. 😊

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

Bill responding-- been to Manila & Baguio while in the Navy. Wish I had the time and inclination back then to visit these sites.

@gravitypronepart2201 Год назад

@@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Me too! I was there in the Navy as well. And I wish I had written down all that my dad said about his experiwnces, and adked more questions.

@joebombero1 Год назад

I retired from Texas to the Philippines in 2018, now living in Cavite. Free beer and cheeseburger if you ever swing by. Love sharing stories.

@ralphallen5779 Год назад

Excellent work 👍

@JosephMalone-mg3yh 5 месяцев назад

I have read about many of these events over the years but after following your series from the "Operation Watch Tower", episode. Your great efforts have allowed me to put the events of the Guadalcanal Campaign in much better chronological order in my mind. Well done and thank you very much for that kind gift.

@mightyjimbo7681 Год назад

OK I started at 108 now I have to go back and catch up from the beginning! Great job guys!

@robertmoffitt1336 Год назад

Binge watching through season one, this is such an incredible podcast.

@billechols7136 Год назад

Great show gentlemen.

@cheesenoodles8316 11 месяцев назад

Excellent. Good account of the Army on the Canal. As a lad in the 70s I was learning and reading about the Marines on the Canal, then found the book The Thin Red LIne....it really kept the quest to learn more. The quest continues, like when I discover Dave's YT channel, and you two gentelmen.

@mikeat2637 Год назад

I was wondering, since the Guadalcanal Campaign is the current topic, do you plan to do something about the period when the Royal Navy carrier Victorious a/k/a USS Robin was sent to the PTO due to the loss of the Hornet and the severe damage to the Enterprise which had her laid up for repairs. Then the only carrier available in the PTO was the Saratoga. FDR and Winston Churchill set it up. I think it would make a great podcast episode, as there is not a lot of written product out there for something that was quite important during the spring and summer of 1943. I found the story extremely fascinating and it led me to look more into the British armored deck carriers, as well as David Hobbs great book about the British Pacific Fleet in 1944-1945.

@sundiver137 Год назад

The USN got an excellent education from the Royal Navy on how to properly vector their CAP fighters and the RN learned a lot from the USN about underway replenishment.

@brianhuss9184 Год назад

147th RCT: National Guard (Ohio) separated when the 37th Division was triangularized. The 164th Infantry: National Guard (North Dakota). The two other infantry regiments in the AMERICAL were the 182nd (Massachusetts Guard) and 132nd (Illinois Guard).

@jameshannagan4256 Год назад

Another great episode.

@kyanderson2461 Год назад

You guys are great !

@MMA10mm Год назад

Well, there went this weekend!😂. Found your podcast on 2nd Battle of Savo Isl., and was so impressed, I’ve been binge-watching your whole series on Guadalcanal. Fantastic job! Subscribed and liked. I’ll be going back to the beginning of your series and trying to catch up. An idea: When talking about the locations, it would be great to have a period simplistic map (like US used in its records of the war). Nothing fancy, like circles, arrows, or animation. Just simple map; no harder than putting up a photo, like you do frequently. And a question: Are you going to talk about the Marine Defense Btln. which landed on Guadalcanal?

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

Glad you found us.

@wdcjunk Год назад

38:53 - AIN'T NO PARTY LIKE A WORK PARTY!!

@marksherrill9337 Год назад

Thank you. Very interesting to hear scholars go into details. I’ve heard from my father and history videos and read a few books. However, these videos make it very personal and almost feel like I gotten to know the soldiers .

@terrygregg1228 Год назад

Yhis is very informative, as are all of your shows. please keep them coming. Thanks T

@kyanderson2461 Год назад

great work ! thank you .

@walterrider9600 Год назад

thank you

@lhartatt Год назад

You guys led me to reading a biography of Admiral Earnest King. Just finished it. Thanks.

@tonyaughney8945 Год назад

This has been the most interesting video on your channel. Been hoping for a video on the Army on Guadalcanal. I finally got clarity on the unit in The Thin Red Line.

@JoeNicks389 9 месяцев назад

My dad was in the 132nd and fought in the battle of Mt. Austin, but never talked about. I found out about it after he past in '65 from his brother.

@adambowman8543 Год назад

A suggestion for a video, y'all should do a video exclusively about Enterprise especially as she prepares to go home to receive her PUC and her refit.

@mitch8226 Год назад

Great content

@sparkey6746 Год назад

Thank y'all for another outstanding show.

@theeducatedgrunt2087 Год назад

Excellent as usual gentleman..

@michaellorusso8021 6 месяцев назад

The 164th was also the first US Army personnel to see action in WWII in an offensive operation.

@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 5 месяцев назад

Yes when they landed on 13 Oct. I have an entire episode on the 164ths role during the campaign.

@johnpitchlynn9341 Год назад

The reason Chesty did not get the MOH on Guadalcanal was that the brass despised him because he always told them what he thought and did not hold back. Also you cannot blame Chesty for Peleliu...that was all on Rupterus and his misuse of the 1st Marines. 😡

@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 Год назад

Good points. Peleliu was complicated and all the commanders are implicated. It surprises me Geiger never gets tainted as he was the overall commander. Puller wasn’t liked by many of the top brass due to a number of issues.

@cenccenc946 Год назад

sinply awsome coverage.

@MemorialRifleRange Год назад

Thank-you!

@michaelmontgomery5141 Год назад

I love guys.

@georgea.567 9 месяцев назад

I find it interesting after 4 or 5 episodes Mr. Holland has lost the Australian accent haha

@augustineramos3789 Год назад

Great podcast!!!! will you have time to cover the PT boats contribution? I have long thought the same about MacArthur BTW.

@MMA10mm Год назад

YES, the PT boats would be interesting stuff!

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

They will definitely come up at some point

@dirthgr 3 месяца назад

Speaking of mixing US Army and Marine...at I believe New Guinea my father, who was initially a Navy radioman, was assigned to a mixed Aussie / US 6 man (Aussie led) recon team...a JASCO unit (Joint Assault Co.)....packing a radio to comm as needed. He quite enjoyed the cross-national camaraderie. At Guadalcanal (where I believe he also served--post NG...mixing Marine and Navy?)...he recounted: a) packing in 28 miles to reinforce troops in defensive positions and being greeted with the exclamation "fresh meat"; b) sleeping in tombs and waking to find the guy next to him with a slit throat; and c) malaria.

@TheIhealme Год назад

I believe that the 2nd Division in WW1 was a combined army/marine Division.

@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 Год назад

Correct with the 4th Marine Brigade. I’m actually going to Belleau wood and Mont Blanc next month, can’t wait.

@johnheigis83 Год назад

Margaritaville... 2/5/1st.

@bruceday6799 Год назад

I'm not done listening when you guys finish talking...

@flparkermdpc 5 месяцев назад

Who knew about this dark closing chapter at Guadalcanal?. I surely didn't. Every sacrifice is significant, and especially tragic in these circumstances. These men were doomed to all be like the last man to die in a war: forgotten. This is awfully painful history. Like ALL of the Japanese men on ALL of their hopeless ill conceived battles. Makes you realize what a failure war is as an option in human relations. 😢

@gregbiggs5674 5 месяцев назад

US Army and US Navy had wonderful cooperation, or "jointness," during the American Civil War. The River Campaigns would not have been won by the Union without that.

@ramal5708 Год назад

When they asked the Marines, Army and Navy how the Japanese could escape and evacuate with enough forces from Guadalcanal, they probably said "Dunno, they just dissapeared into the sea!", the action of General Patch during the Operation Ke and his conservative ways in conducting the offensive toward Cape Esperance, also the disaster at Rennell Island and the intelligence on when and how the Japanese evacuation plan is kind of lacking.

@DanielMatthews-ql3wf 8 месяцев назад

My father and uncle both said that they didn't know anyone who didn't have malaria and discentary. My father went in to the army at over 200 lbs and came home at 140lbs.

@rogerhuner6566 Год назад

I think the question was about Army working under Marines. In WWI it was Marines under Army.

@lawrencebeeler6273 7 месяцев назад

I was taught MacArthur frequently liked to borrow marine units but didn't like returning them , especially in the Philippines campaign

@davemomberg5832 8 месяцев назад

I was watching the second episode of the tribute to The USS Enterprise. I'm surprised Bill wasn't aware of the float planes rescuing pilots off Truk and taxing to USS Tang. Nothing against Bill but has he ever seen the TV series The Silent Service? There was a episode that describes that event, probably not as accurate as what you have though. Like I said NO slam just surprised. I am enjoying the pod cast Keep up the good work Thanks.

@jimcurrier3922 6 месяцев назад

My Dad was in a army mule outfit, he was a pack master and he said that they hauled ammo they and chow to there own guns and to the Marines. they they also hauled wounded on a stretchers that was attached to the mules backs.

@lurking0death Год назад

Sound a lot like combat in Vietnam...

@johnd01 10 месяцев назад

Flying Tigers tried to share how to fight Japanese plaines zoom and boom tactics and never try to turn with them but the Navy and Army would not pass the information along.

@JohnRodriguesPhotographer Год назад

A gross injustice that Chesty Puller never received his Medal of Honor.

@jojoemcgeejoe457 Год назад

I'm going to disagree with y'all in your digs against Carlson. Makin isn't on him. You go where you're sent and do what you're ordered to do. Remember... the Marines didn't get to pick their targets. Also, 20' plus breakers on the coral reef around the island are gonna mess up extraction plans, even to this day. That he got as many out as he did is a rather huge plus. And, as to the long patrol, again, you go where you're sent and follow orders. If the patrol was misused and abused, that's on operational command, not on the tactical leadership. Carlson was a commie pink and a Mao fan. But no one's perfect. Not even Marines, as hard as that might be to believe. Semper Fi. Lifetime Member of the L/Cpl Underground.

@artlee2285 Год назад

Is there going to be a focused discussion of the air battle of Guadalcanal ?

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

Yes-- already recorded and scheduled for release in about a month.

@Titus-as-the-Roman Год назад

From what I've read, while Col. Edson's nick-name was 'Red' due to his complexion, Evans Carlson should have been named that. His Communist sympathies were well known, he modeled his outfit after the Communist Guerillas in China.

@williammaloney8264 10 месяцев назад

another great episode. hey bill did you know commander coughlin

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar 10 месяцев назад

Bill responding: I know a captain Coughlin

@fredferd965 Год назад

Are you gentlemen going to do Boganville? And also my favorite, The Battle of Bismark Sea???

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

We are.

@fredferd965 Год назад

@@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Good! The Battle of the Bismark Sea deserves more attention than it has had.

@johnpitchlynn9341 Год назад

On lessons learned the interservice parochialism was a malignant presents all during the war and it hurt the effort all during the war inspite of some innovative ways to pass those lessons on. The Army didn't want the Marine Corps anywhere near the ETO and also there was massive amounts of unprofessional treatment toward Marines by senior Army Officers who for years wanted to see the Corps disbanded and absorbed by the Army. So the Army and Marine Corps and Army Officer Corps are extremely paranoid about each other even to this day. What should have happened in WWII was the Marines should have had 12 Divisions organized within 4 Marine Expeditionary Forces and 6 Marine Airwings to conduct all US Amphibious Landings and then pass the Army through to conduct the protracted land warfare campaign. Had that happened the loss of life would have been much less.