The End Of Motorsport Games? 

What would you want from an eventual (and hoped good) NASCAR game?

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I just hope IndyCar does the same. As a diehard NASCAR and IndyCar fan, we need a great game for both series to grow the younger fan base.

Im getting the feeling that IndyCar will follow suit with NASCAR ending an exclusive licensing agreement, too. I think bigger things are to come from this. Possibly, even lawsuits by MSG shareholders for not holding some fiduciary duties.

the SRX game is pretty good. liking the career mode so far and the ability to buy upgrades to your facility and car.

Part of me kinda hoped the source code for 21’ would’ve been leaked as I’d be interested to see what the modding community could do to improve the game.

I hope Indycar does the same and we can get the Indianapolis 500 back on iRacing and race on the current Indy tracks, which were banned.

I remember going to that Daytona race (my first time there) in August 2021. NASCAR 21 Ignition had great eye candy and I got a free t-shirt. Even though I played a demo at Daytona I thankfully I didn’t pre-order the game based on that demo at a plate track.

Still waiting for IndyCar to find a brain and cut ties with them…

Dear God, On behalf of the NASCAR community, we ask that you let the higher-ups of MSG be investigated, found guilty, and face punishment for their crimes. We ask for mercy on the employees that they be able to land on their feet quickly, and that they will be looked after by you. In Jesus’ name, AMEN 🙏

I'd love a rerelease of Thunder 04 just with modern graphics. Playable on my Xbox One. You can add in features, but the core game play of that game is solid. I just hate loading it up on an old system and looking at the pixels. But if we couldn't do that, then essentially a new version of that with a trick paint booth that you could use in career mode. That's the one element Ignition nailed, just an awesome paint booth.

They literally destroy everything they touch; ever since heat 5 updated it straight up doesnt load on my Xbox One. I hope the marketing team for nascar realizes that they have the perfect opportunity to introduce new people into this sport with the video game market, and currently, they're wasting that opportunity immensely

If one of the new NASCAR games ends up being a simcade, I would enjoy something akin to NASCAR Thunder 04 and 05 Chase for the Cup

Exclusivity in general in games shouldn't be allowed. It leads to publishers like EA releasing the same game over and over with barely any enhancements for full price and have no incentive to innovate or anything. Why should they when nobody can compete with them? Just completely anti-consumer.

Im moving to charlotte to go to school for this exact reason in december, my goal has always been to be the guy who works for nascar and oversees the development on their end so they dont repeat these same mistakes and just let the developer go to work without supervising them at all about what absolutely NEEDS to be in a nascar video game. With any luck ill bring all of your guys suggestions to the table and tell the corporate guys "look, the only way this works is if you find people who are passionate about the sport to build this thing, the blueprints for making a great game are literally ALL here and our fans are telling us exactly what they want, but were gonna need more than one year to make this unless you guys want to shell out some super big bucks"

I wish Nascar had a season league like F1 has, one where the game records and tracks how the playoffs go so my friends don’t have to have a separate spreadsheet to track who wins the championship

There are bad consequences with exclusive licensing, just look at EA Sports and Madden, it’s become a mess.

I wish maybe nascar could team up with turn 10 studios and make a nascar dlc for the next forza motorsport game yes I know people have problems with forza but in all honesty they one of the oldest racing games and have a good foundation for younger fans so I think it will be a good idea because I myself have been trying to do a nascar series on forza because forza was alot better then the nascar games

Also nascar needs to do the same with Lionel they can’t make diecast for 💩 nowadays it doesn’t help that they keep raising the prices and lowering the quality and don’t seem to care enough to make better quality diecast

1 step closer to EA possibly picking it back up? With the Codemasters F1 Games and EA having Codemasters now, I'd love to see NASCAR Thunder come back with management stuff from the F1 Games. Can you imagine a My Team mode where you start a Single Car team as Driver/Owner and expand to a 4 car team with hiring drivers for the other 3 cars and maybe have the field size expanded to 43 cars instead of the current 40 cars and have DNQs be possible?

3:34 Amen, brother. Exclusive licenses mean that developers can put out mediocre products year after years since there is no competition. EA is the worst of these with Madden and FIFA (now EA Sports FC), but 2K has also grown complacent with their NBA 2K games now that NBA Live is basically dead. It's a shame that this is the case since leagues like the NFL and NBA at the very least could definitely support multiple games going head to head. Imagine telling a gamer 20 years ago that they were living in the golden age of sports gaming and that their games from the early-mid 2000s would have more depth and features than games released 20 years later on far superior hardware.

I will say that my favorite racing game right now is Gran Turismo. The AI in that one aren't as competitive, but the realistic aspect of the time trail hot laps and car tuning is so much fun. If we could get the paint booth, aggressive (without the getting run over all the time aspect), and plate racing from Eutechnyx, the EA Thunder career mode, and the physics and graphics from Gran Turismo, man this would be a legendary game. I agree with Eric's take last night on the podcast though, we need to reign in our expectations, because this will is a somewhat niche sport. My hopes is that NASCAR could pitch in funds as much as possible, in hopes to get a good ROI on younger newer die hard fans. I'm with you guys, i played NASCAR 06 & 05 on my uncle's Xbox, and when i finally got my own Xbox, NASCAR 07 was one of 2 games i ever bought for it. It was all i needed, and not coincidentally, i started watching racing in 06-07 ish

i just play heat 5 and nr2003, the ai can comprehend not just following the line like ignition and i actually have pretty fun battles time to time but ignition 21 ruined nascar's gaming reputation

Here’s my message to Motorsport Games: Another turning point, a fork stuck in the road Time grabs you by the wrist, directs you where to go So make the best of this test, and don't ask why It's not a question, but a lesson learned in time It's something unpredictable But in the end, it's right I hope you had the time of your life So take the photographs and still frames in your mind Hang it on a shelf in good health and good time Tattoos of memories, and dead skin on trial For what it's worth, it was worth all the while It's something unpredictable But in the end, it's right I hope you had the time of your life It's something unpredictable But in the end, it's right I hope you had the time of your life It's something unpredictable But in the end, it's right I hope you had the time of your life

I couldn't care less about online, online gaming is just full of trolls and griefers anyway. What they need to is a deep career mode where you can hire/fire drivers as team mates again.

Competition is good for the economy and the consumers. Our world has been monopolized which technically is illegal. But when big corps pay for the companies who regulate the business that they are in it’s a rigged game. What I’d want from a nascar game Seasons update on previous installments Additional tracks from the past or fantasy tracks When pitting absolutely every single pit crew works, I’ve been waiting 25 years for that now to see not just your own pit crew come out DLCs should be former nascar gen cup models you can purchase and run “Winston” cup seasons which is overall points system, the chase format, and the playoffs format. A better sponsorship option in career mode where it’s not obvious by using your phones calculator which sponsor pays more, where it truly competitively matters which sponsor you choose with incentive and bonuses for performance year in year out. I like what heat and D2D did with dirt, trucks, xfinity and cup, progression means a lot, but have in race commentators as an option as well as the actual leaderboard they use on tv, Intervals being .0001 seconds as truly that makes a difference As always a easy to use yet complex paint booth More than just your either a rival or “friend” based on how you race make it deeper than that Etc etc

First of all, if I wanted something in the NASCAR game it would be a custom next gen car, a burnout system. The system that didn't exist in the ignition game a safety rating. So if dirty drivers want to mess up other drivers. And yes I know we can all relate that they do that stuff like a unranked in a ranked lobby

For the video game just make a 2024 or 5 dirt to Daytona with the career mode...crash damage, sponsors, upgrades ect. Have the top developer play the game for a weekend and then duplicate it. It doesn't seems that difficult to me 🙄

I know its not likely but id like a game with past generations of cars included. Especially the cars of certain legends

The best option, in my opinion, is to work with the makers of iRacing to make a nascar console game. They know what they're doing. They have the license. They have a great racing platform essentially already built. This would be the best option for everyone.

Thank god it’s over. Maybe now we can get a good NASCAR Game for once. This is why there should NEVER EVER be exclusivity licenses in the gaming industry. Anyone who wants to make a game should. This is why I haven’t bought a NASCAR Game in 4 years.

In a word: Yes Now who takes over?? I hope Iracing for Console gaming

I want a game that has nothing to do with Motorsport games. I can’t support this game developer as I paid for nascar heat 5 and now it won’t load

we’re about to piss on MSG’s grave

Funny how we hated nascar heat 5 back when it came out, guess you never know what you have until it’s gone

Not going to lie, I'm still playing 2004 career. Good ai, actual good points format for season/career + sponsorshil/rnd management for career, rival system, good soundtrack, nothing has topped it

Honestly They need nascar whelen modifieds

look at where NASCAR has signed with Xfinity 2025 and think about it...............

Iracing and nascar need to do a game. Look at what iracing did with world of outlawa game its great.

I have a long wish list of things I'd love to see in a good NASCAR game, so bear with me: I'd like a game that actually feels good to drive around in, one where I don't have to have the assists on full to actually be able to drive without the car feeling like it's undrivable. Maybe that's just my bad video game driving skills, but the past few games I've played all felt like the car was just on ice no matter what setup I had, so turning, braking, staying in the pack, it all felt like if I barely touched my joystick or triggers, my car would fly out of control. On that, I want more customization with my controls and setups, and more information on what they do, not just a slider with "loose" and "tight" on either end (I know what those mean, but I'd like to see the details, like tire pressures, balance, grip levels, etc.). Controls...maybe just me fumbling with a controller when I should invest in a racing wheel, but I'd like to have something that's not so chaotic on controller, like steering that feels like I'm actually steering and not jerking the wheel violently by barely moving the joystick. I want to feel the transmission shift when I'm shifting, not just click a button and bam, I'm going faster or slower, or it's making the engine go crazy because it glitched out or something. Something else I've literally never seen anyone do: realistic pit stops! I want to have a mode where I can literally go down and try to pit myself, not just have the AI take over when I hit the pit road line! I want the crews to feel more real as well! I want to see them have those moments more often where, whoops, dropped the jack too soon, or air hose is caught on a fender or whatever! Just something that doesn't feel like an AI run program all the time that's super boring to watch... I also want a super detailed customization for making my own car/paint scheme! I'd love to have an option where I can design patterns myself, not have to make do with patters 1, 2, 3, or 4. I want more sponsor options as well, even if it's fake/fantasy ones (I remember the EA games having some really funny and good ones). Another thing I've never seen: Track creator! I'd love to make my own dream NASCAR track! Road course, superspeedway, short track, dirt track, whatever! I want tons of options and ways to make it unique and special. Have ways to test it and share it online with others to see! I'd also love to see more track options as well for the regular tracks, like time of day for all tracks, weather options (have a race that could be impacted by rain randomly, so you don't know when the finish is), things that could change the race! Probably the most important thing for me: I want realistic damage and crashes. I cannot remember the last time I played a NASCAR game where it felt "real." Oh sure, you can have tire wear, fuel run out, hitting the wall may dent the car a bit, maybe if I tap someone's bumper wrong, it'll cause a small wreck... But none of that felt "real" or "authentic!" I want a damage level where if I hit the wall, it's going to pancake the side of my car! I want the AI to make mistakes sometimes and cause wrecks, not drive mindlessly into my accident and cause a 20+ car pile up! I want dents and scrapes to look good, not some copy/paste thing you see on every car when they hit in a similar spot... I want to see engines blow, tires go, fenders fly, and cars slide!

The end of Motorsport Games? God I hope so.

Let’s throw a big old celebration party!

Just give the console license to iRacing. They'll churn out the quality that you are looking for.

I just want a complete game that's not stuck behind a damn paywall. I almost don't care about graphics. Just make a functional, complete, fun game. We don't ask for much 😭

Idea for nascar career mode You start in late models when you 14 part time then run full time from 15 to 17. If you run good in the late models you get to go part time in trucks and arca. If you do really good you get to go full time in truck if you don’t you either stay in late models or go to arca. Then you keep going up base on how good you are so you can be a truck driver for your whole career or be a cup series driver. Also if your really good in trucks you can skip to cup if you get a offer. But you have to get offers you can’t just go up if your bad. Plz don’t make a game with my idea I will need money

Screw msg hopefully nascar can get console games that are actually good and realistic

man, i just want an actual good nascar game.. we’ve been deprived of one for so long. just something with enough single player draw, a paint booth (i absolutely love paint booths), a good career mode- both driver and owner- with the ability to make more than a 1 car team, with driver transfers too, and a good/functional online mode

All i want in a nascar game us good racing and career mode

Twas a scam and a disapointment, so deserved.

Yes!!!! Now if only IndyCar would step up and do the same.....

All combo of features from NASCAR thunder series along with total team control. New features: NASCAR History: Challenges that take place from 1949-present You can unlock legend drivers and tracks that are no longer on the schedule. Forza/Photoshop paint booth: Go Karts, Bandelora, and all NASCAR SERIES REPRESENTED. These are just some of the things I think of.

Good job Iceberg for a very informative video! NASCAR Arcade Rush is coming soon but I’ll wait until Christmas until the prices go down.

Been waiting on this day

I cant tell you how much i agree with you when you say that you hope nascar just takes these jokers all to the cleaners and takes all their money, they deserve nothing more and maybe that money can be used to help make a better game

I’d love if nascar went back to EA. Say what you will about EA but the EA nascar games were the best nascar games to date

Thank goodness the exclusivity deal with MSG is over...good riddance!!!!

NO exclusively hopefully I racing and EA sports make there own Consol games

Let's just hope that Bethesda doesn't get it's hands on the license for NASCAR games... 😂😂😂

There hasn't been a good game with a good fight to the top in 17 years. It's time for that again. I wanna start as a nobody and become a champion. I want to be able to build teams and hire drivers and manage sponsorships. One with detailed statistics. I wanna know how many races poles and championships inhave in each series and how many my teams have as a driver. Just 1 good new game like this is all I'm asking for.... just 1.

I have had this idea of being able to race different generations of cars. Cars like the Hudson Hornet, Plymouth Superbird, Dodge Daytona, Buick Grand National, Chevrolet Lumina, Ford Thunderbird, Pontiac Grand Prix. Everything from 1948 to today. Even being able to replicate former tracks. IMO that would be a great idea!

Gib the license to Monster Games, Gib us back NASCAR Dirt To Daytona!

Package iracing's nascar section and release it on console for $70. Have codemasters do a simcade.

Anything that resembles the Nascar Thunder series works for me.. Keep it simple and fun to play I also always wanted realistic damage were is if you slam the wall your car is done similar to how the F1 games are set up.

the Eutechnyx games were glitchy but had a lot of detail and were really fun to drive imo. Id want something like thunder, mixed with Eutechnyx driving data,

Heat 4 and 5 were great!!

I think at this point the only company capable of giving you a real Nascar game is iRacing. Give them a license to do a game on the consoles and you will get something great since they already are the kings of Nascar sim racing right now.

I would love to see Polyphony digital take a hack at it unless they were to make it PlayStation exclusive

As long as the new Forza Motorsport has NASCAR content, I'll be happy

Two words……TIME TRIAL!!!!!! How can such a simple concept be so hard to implement in a racing game

I would like Dirt to Daytona 2 brought to you by iRacing, please and thank you.

Yeah but what about Indycar? They also gave the Indycar license to these same idiots.

Actually looking at the trailer for a new arcade nascar game I would love to have different eras of cars. Like from the start and every generation. Older tracks. I would be happy even without real drivers or if some tracks or cars would just resemble real things. I mean it’s 75 years of nascar and we see commercials with all the cars and I want a game like this.

Sing it from the mountain tops and praise the Lord. The MSG nightmare is over.

HALLELUJAH

I would like to EA Sports do NASCAR games again 😊

Bring in Capcom. The Resident Evil remakes could really use some Nascar.

I feel like the NASCAR fan base is giving a party right now

I only experienced glitches on nascar 21 like a total of 7 times

I hope Chicagoland never comes back on the schedule

It's the end of nascar gaming as we know it and I feel fine

team control let to swap driver during the race

Hopefully we get a custom paint booth again exactly like nascar 21

Whoever ends up making the NASCAR games needs to make it VR compatible. Racing in GT7 NVR is an amazing experience and I think any racing game that comes out for PlayStation needs to be VR compatible.

Now to see if the new batch of games are Nintendo exclusive. Arcade Racing that was announced yesterday confirmed this

With Motorsport Games losing their license, this means we have many opportunities to see the things we saw in different games. GT5 and GT6 had an amazing NASCAR racing scene when they had the Cup cars from each era in there until they signed some exclusivity deals. Forza Motorsport 7 had great models for that generation of Cup Cars, not to mention all the custom throwback and fantasy liveries made by the community. And let's also talk about the incredible EA sports series games during the early to mid 2000s. Thunder, Chase for The Cup and other games they had before the 08 season. I am hoping that, and this is a huge longshot, that PDI can sign a temporary deal with GoodYear and NASCAR to bring the Next Gen cars to GT7. A full test body of the Camaro, Mustang and Camry with either default numbers or pure steel bodies. The Forza Motorsport reboot could do the same thing and get the three base model cars with 3 different sponsors like FM7.

At this point, we need a nascar game like f1 games with graphics, rain racing, good handling mechanics, AI with brains n more. After all they put us through with horrible nascar games, this one has to b A+.

we did it!!! war is f*cking over!

3:15 'the worst game ever made'. It can't be worse than Leisure Suit Larry: Box Office Bust.

Look how good the world of outlaws game is....same creators could make a banger for nascar

Either 2K or Sony may be possible but I heard 2K tried in the past but didn't, and Sony tried other sports other than The Show like NBA the Inside but failed. But I think 2K may be best because I'd like a League mode where you can actually change drivers & sponsors at will

I’m a strange animal. That’s what you know

DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD

Will we get a nascar game for the 2023 season? Like for yes, comment for no

I love the free range of the paint booth that MSG made happen, that is the only reason I play the game cause making schemes is fun to me. I don’t really care what the new developers do, as long as they bring it back…. Or make it even better.

I think there needs to be more transparency going into the next games development an feedback taken to earn back the good faith lost

What I don't get is we waited a long time to get the Next Gen DLC for NASCAR Heat 5, then when it's released you buy it and realize that all the DLC paint schemes you got for the 2020 cars are completely gone. Personally I feel like I paid all that money for some cool paint schemes to run for my race leagues only to have that money go to waste because I can use those paint schemes any more.

Bye Felicia ✌️

I say let codemasters playground games or turn 10 make a nascar game and see what happens

Basically if i was to have a say in what was to come in a new game, I'd want something with a deep carrer mode. Something like Thunder 04 where you handled everything right down to signing the pit crew. Also do R&D like the F1 games where you gotta research upgrades to the car bit by bit. Also, throw in the NASCAR 14 or 15 paint booth in there because it was probably the best one in a nascar game. Oh, and for the love of god, customizable set ups

Let’s gooooo!