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The End of Transgender Care for Minors? | Jesse Singal 

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Jesse Singal makes his Remnant debut to discuss his piece for The Dispatch on the Cass Review and the problem with the current consensus about gender transition treatments for children. The two debate the question of social contagion and the difficulties in reporting on “The Science.”
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00:00
The Naming Process and the Introduction of Jesse Signal
09:16
The Cass Report: Weak Evidence and Recommendations
34:26
Anti-Science Beliefs on the Left and Right
41:43
The Collapse of Expert Authority
55:34
The State of Science in the United States
#trans #lgbt #politics #conservative

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24 апр 2024

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@ropeburnsrussell
@ropeburnsrussell Месяц назад
Really interesting interview. Now Jonah needs to go on Blocked and Reported to go head to head with Katie Herzog.
@howmanybeansmakefive
@howmanybeansmakefive Месяц назад
I say this as a neuroscientist-turned-lawyer that has also worked in scientific/medical publishing more broadly. Regarding “true science,” people in general have too homogenous/narrow a view of what is scientific, and what scientists are/do. An experimental physicist's 'science' is very different to a theoretical physicist's, and very different to an ecologist. Then there are differences in fields/approaches, in my field of cellular/systems neuroscience, many would say that ‘cognitive’ neuroscience and psychology aren’t really sciences at all, let alone the ‘social sciences’. Generally as you move more towards more complex systems/human elements, the more cautious we should be. A big problem in the American academy has been the “social science-ification” of psychology, sociology, economics… which tries too hard to fit/treat human spheres of knowledge as a “pure” science, and thinks that taking on a facsimile of scientific method will necessarily be more fruitful/valid, which can be misleading or just plain wrong when applied to non-scientific questions. Then particularly with medicine, people really shouldn’t consider it primarily as a science first. There’s a world of difference between being a practitioner/vocation and capital S-science. That’s not a denigration of the professions, I’m just saying we should value them without having to treat them like a pure science. It’s like saying an engineer is a physicist, a miner is a geologist, or a lawyer is a philosopher (though the US has a problem with that too). Also from my time in publishing, the quality of doctors/medical studies are usually an order of magnitude worse/variable, and the incentives for doctors in their research/publications are especially vulnerable to not being aligned with scientific rigor, and other biases are much more prevalent. There is a general problem in the public thinking that 'studies' = science. Studies are just step one to entering the conversation, and the majority of studies are wrong. Ultimately medicine is a profession/vocation that requires phronesis/practical wisdom/judgment/experience to be able to interpret data and make decisions, taking into human/professional/social/ethical considerations. Setting aside the terrible quality (and fundamental limit) on the quality of human studies, studies can only provide the basic information for you as a professional to then weigh/interpret to make a good decision. Which is why it is evidence-*based* medicine,.EBM is just as much about a general disposition to avoid ideological thinking. Evidence-based thinking is a skill and extremely important, but it’s a fallacy to think by having enough data in vacuum, we will know how doctors should act and health systems should be run. “Following the science” in a professional/political sense can be misleading in that way, and an abdication of political/social/professional/moral judgment. This all just a long way of saying, we need to respect disciplines and professions for what they are and on their own terms. And trying to tie everything back to science does a disservice to both the scientific method and medical practice, and leads to a lot of shoddy research/pseudoscience.
@2kallday21
@2kallday21 Месяц назад
Just blindly ‘following the science’ is a cop out in this case for all the reasons you so eloquently stated. At the same time, it seems there isn’t much quality evidence right now when it comes to youth gender medicine, so I think studies can be valuable right now. As you said, studies can’t make decisions for us, but can help inform them.
@theosakonas1995
@theosakonas1995 2 дня назад
We need to demand a class 45:33 responsibility lawsuit for the pharmaceutical and agricultural companies that have denied the evidence that endocrine disrupting petrochemicals affects childhood hormonal development.
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