The Engineers Who Died To Keep The Titanic's Lights On | Saving The Titanic | Timeline 

And the winner of the "Didn't Happen of the Year Award" goes to.........

Middle of the night on the East Coast in the USA and a Norwegian sailor, and just being on the open seas is brave to me. My sister just met a Norwegian engineer, she adores, and also lives in Boston, a beautiful place with such history. Sleep well now, sailor, and be safe

Purple was reserved for royalty; the king awarded the purple to be worn by the Engineers. Of all the ship's executive staff, only the Engineers are allowed to wear purple out of gratitude for their outstanding commitment and duty with regards to Titanic.

Is this still worn today !the purple band? 2023

@@haroldalston3349 Yes, civilian marine engineers still wear purple stripes on their rank insignia. This distinguishes them from deck officers who have no colours other than black and gold. However contrary to the myth this was not implemented in respect of the heroism of Titanic engineers, more mundanely it was simply to indicate that engineers are not deck officers. However if any modern engineer personally wishes to consider the purple stripe as a mark of respect to the heroism of Titanic's engineers, then they're welcome to do so. The Titanic engineers _were_ heroes, and modern deck officers still wouldn't have a ship to command if it weren't for the engineers keeping everything running.

I agree! Itś a masterpiece! And it shows (in my opinion) that strict hierarchies didn 't do anything good to mankind!

RIP

admirable (admire - able) admiral is a Navy rank.

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Big respect to you for your service. I’m sure you have many tales to tell, god bless you🙏🏼

Really? you were an engineer of naval vessels?... can I ask a question? if so: Q = Why do sea captains use plane trigonometry, and not spherical trigonometry when navigating the seas?

I would venture that we are STILL in the Middle Ages!

@@chrisgardiner2215 You clearly demonstrate that you have no idea what a Marine Engineer is.

@@Sharps777 I never said that I did. I don't understand your comment.

Are you one of these religitard people. 🤔

@@beachcomber1able no but I know that some people find comfort in those words

@@hopeworld_2190 Lots more find relief in mind altering chemical substances. 😄

There was a baker who survived the entire time in the ice water with no injuries almost amazing

And yet even more when you realize that there really *was* a way out for them... But they chose not to use it...

@@d-string2614 Who played Barrett, not Paddy.

I think there'd be less standing around staring into the distance and more shouting and a sense of urgency!

BTW, he was called Paddy because his middle name was Patrick.

Im interested in why they added him in.. Quite a few times they were saying it wasnt the Olympic. A man by that name said that the Olympic and Titanic were switched. Their adding him is them nodding to the theory that White Star Line pulled one of the greatest insurance frauds in history.. I personally believe it. But its something that cant be proven. Considering The Californian had left port very suddenly with coats and blankets and little else on board actually just adds to the "it could have happened" bit. Either way, Californian was close enough that she should have been able to help save most if not all of Titanic's passengers. The entire situation was a waste of life. And Paddy was the whistleblower if it was true.

yeah

DiCaprio asked for too much 💰 lol

*'Bunker fires' were a common issue on any large ship using 'Lignite' coal because of it's tendency to 'self-ignite' as carbon bonds with oxygen which stimulates inherent sulfur particulates to ignite as well* __________ *The ideation that Titanic's hull was 'weakened' by low-temperature coal ignition is completely without merit since it would require temperatures in excess of 1200F to significantly impact the molecular consistency of the ship's iron hull and 'soft-coal' cannot yield temps. that high without the benefit of high-pressure oxygen being introduced deliberately under controlled circumstances*

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Well said

nice how they just copy paste a documentary made in 2011 and just uploaded it back to youtube... no credits for this channel

Me, neither. Gave me chills.

Heard the Olympus was the actual ship that sank

@@johnmontgomery4923 What? Both ships sank. Just a few decades apart. Olympus was substantially improved after Titanic sank. It had accidents earlier in its career too. But no, no conspiracy that Titanic didn't sink but Olympus did in it's place. That what you're saying?

@@jonny-b4954 The Titanic was the Olympus. Olympus was the Titanic. The crack in the Titanic was in the same place where the Olympus was run into. Already making it weak. The undersea video picture by the research shows where the name Titanic has gone clearly showed MPUS. Titanic had the wreak and when it went to drydock everything from one ship moved to the other. Exact Copy to the last Bolt. It is suggested some high class knew or were notified and canceled. Already bankrupt, the last thing needed is a patched-up ship. The patchwork would have been clearly noticed on an Un-sinkable ship. Some Historian´s take.

@@jonny-b4954 Oympus never sank. In service until 1935. Used as a troop carrier.

Too bad they couldn't rig up steam ...and pressurize...then force the water back out the cracks..

Bravo sir well said.

Men who sacrificed their lifes to save many others, true heroes....

¡Indeed!

It's a little late for that, don't you think? They were put to rest in 1912.

@@jessicaschultz586 Heroes of the Titanic? That's news to me. Heroes save lives. None were saved except by a few lifeboats.

@@kentduryea1741 Chronos time = peRcePtiOn based.... "not real".... 🙈🙉🙊 (Now + Now - Now = Now)

Very well said

I've seen a lot of movies based on the titanic, including THE movie (which in all honesty is probably the worst when it comes to portraying actual history). As for this flick? it was brilliant!! wonderfully acted, wonderfully directed, informative as it was still 20 percent documentary though at it's core still had heart. it had characters I truly rooted for, a story that I was engaged with, and even an ending (albeit sad) was still great. I absolutely loved this. most importantly, it told the story of the real heroes of the titanic. the unspoken, unsung and unseen heroes of that night.

@@joeyclemenza7339 At least this movie didn't end with the lead woman protagonist throwing the perfectly good and valuable and actively sought for _Heart of the Ocean_ Diamond overboard?!?! That one scene made me puke, women swoon across the world,.. and James Cameron a pot full of money!! I am kind of surprised that more people on board didn't think about pulling more of the wooden doors, walls, and furnishes apart and throwing them overboard so more people could do what our leading lady friend was able to do,... get out of the cold water!!! And is it *_really true_* that so called _lower classed people_ were locked below decks?!? I saw that in Cameron's movie,.. and that scene had never seemed credible to me at all,.. but was I wrong??! How was that not murder?!?

@@davidhunt7427 so from what I've been able to gather, it wasn't that they locked them below deck. It was that the ship was just so huge that the crew didn't have time or didn't really care to go downstairs and make sure every gate was unlocked. The ship sank like 2 1/2 hours after hitting the iceberg. But the crew didn't really understand that the ship was actually sinking until a good hour plus after impact. at that point, chaos started to break out and the people below deck were kinda forgot about as first class took all of their efforts and to make sure women and children were boarded first

Dang straight !! Amazing !!

They were not really like "brave" as we know now. it was 1912. People weren't custom to go against orders from your superior.

Agree. Such as the priest who was offered a seat in a lifeboat but chose to stay on the ship to hear confessions and help people feel better in their last hour or two. There are lots of stories of absolute bravery, such as women refusing to leave their husbands or older people giving up their lifeboat seats for the younger generation as they had more years to live than them. It does seem a bit uncomfortable that survivors who muscled their way on to boats were signing autographs when they got to NY and were seen as surviving heroes instead.

@@angelkotilainenmy great grandfather Albert Horswill survived the wreck of the RMS Titanic. He was a crewman that was uncovering lifeboats on the Starboard side of the ship. The starboard side evacuation was run by Officer Murdoch, a great mariner. Cutter lifeboat was an emergency lifeboat that was swung out over the side for man overboard situations, it held 40 instead of 65 like the larger lifeboats. This lifeboat needed to be launched because it was impeding the larger boats. The problem was that at this time only 5 passengers were willing to board the lifeboat because many refused to believe the ship was in any kind of danger. Officer Murdoch wouldn’t lower it with only 5 occupants so at the last second he ordered seven nearby crewmen aboard the lifeboat, one of them being my great grandfather. Officer Murdoch was a hero because it was highly unlikely any of those 7 crewmen were getting off of the ship unless they were ordered off by a superior Officer.

​@@angelkotilainena lot of them didn't even believe it was going to sink, and were told whomever got off would be back in the morning.. imagine that. And it's true.

This was early on of course.. and some did decide to just stay.. and you can imagine that was a big mistake later on...

Agree

weird, ive got the memoirs of a colonel on board, and he states that most firemen were on deck.

@@wingsken So, your point is? In the video they told good group of them to go on deck as per drill, or did you watch a different video?

Docudrama

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some of those actors gave HOLLYWOOD CALIBER performances!!! especially the gentleman playing Barrett. WOW!!!

Agree!

100

I always think of how cold it had to have been and how helpless everyone was to the power of the sea.

Not only the fear but the courage and integrity to face it anyway knowing they were giving other people a chance to live.

I didn't know that cool.

The lights stayed on because they were run by a generator requiring no engineers presence. If/when that failed a back up battery would automatically take over (with a small break/flicker in the light's operation - as was reported by many of the survivors). The engineers and firemen were evacuated well before sinking. Working the boilers became utterly pointless long before the ship sank and so they'd stopped and the senior engineers ordered the firemen and engineers up top. Only a couple survived, but they were extremely clear about that. This did not fit the wanted narrative (as mentioned in this film they wanted heroes, even if they had to just invent stuff), but they never wavered in saying they'd been told to evacuate. Most did die anyway, but as there were not even enough lifeboat spaces for all of the passengers, even if they had been filled properly - it's no surprise the staff were not given priority for the boats. These were practical working men, who would not have stayed there when it was pointless and they weren't even getting paid. Their first duty was to their family and they would have wanted to try to save their own lives, and be there to provide for their families.

@@mortisrat Your whole narrative is proven false by the fact that the Titanic (like all ships of that time) did not have batteries.

@@karlp8484 The british investigation into the sinking has transcripts that definitely make clear that the engineers and firemen were evacuated. The narrative that they stayed was nonsense, but a lot nicer for people to believe. It steered the conversation away from 'all those men died because there were not enough lifeboats and there was no plan in place because it would have cost money and looked 'untidy'' and to 'those brave, wonderful men' - which was better for the company and the authorities who'd let it be legal to have so few lifeboats and to send them out nearly empty. The families could think their man died being brave and as a hero - and not simply terrified and because they had no choice. It's a better story, it just does not appear to be true based on what the only survivors actually said, and what they actually said is a matter of public record. OK, backup generators, not batteries. Still not 'my narrative' - it's still what those men said.

@@mortisrat Titanic's emergency power system required steam pressure to operate. The ship did not have a battery system.

@@mortisrat no bats

Without the stokers , nothing happened . The Captain always knew this . Best cabins , best food , the best of everything .

I've been a DDG Engineer for 9yrs now ,I appreciate the recognition especially since people don't understand what we have to do on the daily or in the case of a casualty

As a former boatswain’s mate I fondly recall seeing sweaty engineers coming topside to the catwalks to blink in the daylight, smoke a cigarette and then scurry back below.

Agreed.

No doubt! Could you imagine if this way today? People would be pushing the women/kids out of the way to save themselves, others would be trying to vlog/video everything, and others would be trying to get the perfect selfie to put on Instagram. We live in a different world today.

on cruise ships it does seem this way today(Costa Concordia etc.) but have some faith. Did you forget 9-11 and the service men and women who ran up the tower while all others were fleeing? Life is how you choose to see it. There is good all around if you stop watching the nightly news or allow oneself to be victim of the social media algos. Good luck.

@@jamie-r2034 exactly 💯 it shows how so much has changed. If it were today, I can't even imagine it.

​@@jcd3869men are built differently. No way could you get women to sacrifice themselves like this to save others.

Amen!!!

I was also a marine engineer officer, now retired. I believe the purple was already used by the Royal Navy. In 1865 it was decided that British naval engineers would wear a purple background to their gold braid of rank in order to distinguish them from other officers and that colour coding transferred to the British mercantile engineer officers when they started wearing uniforms. Although engineer officers aboard passenger ships wore uniforms the practice was not common aboard cargo ships prior to WWI and so purple was not usually seen. As more engineer officers wore uniforms the purple background became common and the myth associated with the Titanic developed.

Yes same colour as the Victoria Cross ribbon

@@julianmoore3091 No, the Victoria Cross ribbon is crimson. For Royal Navy receipients, the ribbon was originally dark blue, but after the Royal Air Force was formed, the dark blue was abolished in 1920 and all V.C.s had a crimson ribbbon. The Merchant Navy engineer braid has a purple trim.

With the greatest respect Laura I do not wish to take anything away from those brave lads who kept the lights on . Also I do not wish to say anything to denigrate Wallace Hartley and his fellow musicians who played on deck to " sooth the passengers nerves ". But lets be honest, what else were they to do ?? I consider those with specific duties were the lucky ones. They knew exactly where they should be at this tragic time but what about everyone else ? i'm afraid there is one very well documented crew member who did exactly what i would have done. One of the ships bakers gave up his place in a lifeboat for 1 extra woman who would survive. He then went down below got a bottle of Whisky and drank the lot!! He is my hero of the Titanic and he DID survive the cold- probably because of the Whisky..

@@scabbycatcat4202 That is a slant that i had not thought of.Perhaps it is the fact that i was a chief engineer and really felt a kinship with them.Most of us are at the bottom of the ship.I dont think anyone was less brave or couragous,i just think we all show it in different ways.Thank you for pointing that out to me,Laurajane

@@scabbycatcat4202 I agree with this. They couldn't board the life boats so what were they supposed to do other than what they were told.

What does vlcc stand for? Also, much appreciation for your years of service sister

@@theshermantanker7043 I believe VLCC stands for Very Large Crude Carriers (oil) I could be wrong though

WW2?

That generation really produced some incredible men.

3rd Class Irish Immigrants Locked In (Murder), I have The documentary.

@@MegaTrueTalk Proof or you just full of the brown stuff? Third class were not just Irish

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My late father was always interested in the TITANIC. Was extremely disappointed in the James Cameron film... this one would've REALLY appealled to him. Wish he could've seen it

@@sarahc3295 try watching a Night to remember. It's far better than Cameron film. Cameron was sued by the murdoch family for maligning their relative in the film. All he paid them was £5000.00

Frank Zappa. Yass. Love some zappa

Exhilarating to say the least

Sure, if you are not shoveling the coal whole day...

@@Hellsong89 it was very well payed.

​@@Hellsong89 sometimes thats where your skilled trade starts off. Clearly you don't work construction or ever been an apprentice

You can see it in Andrew's face when him and bell look into boiler room 6 I think and they see the water coming in and forcing the air up

What is NEGLECTED is the ******* truth. Even Ligholler said before he died; "I was haunted every single day of my life by all the women and children...especially all those in 3rd class who died as they were restrained until it was too late to save over half of them." And what many here don't realize, Captain Smith- the **** that he was- was incompetent and was the cause of the collision with HMS Hawke. That collision almost busted White Star financially as he was ruled to be at fault, but the key fact- because of that collision White Star took the propeller shaft from Titanic to repair Olympic thus caused the maiden voyage of Titanic to be delayed almost a month. Smith was born to sink the Titanic and although some of the crew performed heroically- others were either incompetent or at the very least- guilty of manslaughter.

@@NYCYankInTexas What about all the POOR ANIMALS WHO DROWNED. Nobody gives a toss about them.

These heroes absolutely deserve to be honored much more.

they deserve something

@@andypandy7769 "Politics"

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​@@Raymondgogolf creep. All you scammers write the same thing

"Eternal Father Strong to Save" is the universal hym song by all English speaking sailors. It is a beautiful Hym

There one in liverpool too, worth a see

That's sad & terrifying. Hopefully they went quick & painless.

the engines never ripped from their mounts because if you look at the wreck images they are still in place.

@@MyMustang72 some did, not all

Why would they be crushed? There is no logical relation between the water coming in en machines being ripped loose or even crushed.

💯👍 The real, unvarnished stories of Titanic's voyage and sinking and her actual passengers and crew are compelling enough on their own without the unnecessary embellishment of a fictitious, Hollywood love story. It's rather disrespectful to the memory of Titanic's real victims and survivors to imply their true story and lives aren't "dramatic" or "fascinating" enough on their own. RIP Titanic and all who sailed on her.

Because 🐂💩 makes money, truth only matters in documentaries...& even then it can be subjective depending on biases of the film maker...that being said, this very well made, feature length documentary is, in fact, their feature film, unfortunately, it'll never be as big as James Cameron's movie...

exactly. I love that movie for its visuals, and have watched the cut where jack and rose aren't in it almost at all because the fact they cut so many true stories for some fake randies always made me mad

Because the love story shown the story of many of the survivors

I Have To Agree Here, I Don’t Mind The Movie But I Do Feel Like It Could Of Included Some Other Stories Like The Workmen Keeping The Light’s On Till The Water Of The North Atlantic Got To Close.

Thank you for your service, Tomas!

@@bekfast6691 Thank you

@@bekfast6691 A bit late, but Happy Veterans Day! I thank you very much for your service! My dad served, too, so I’m very familiar with the VA. Hope you have a lovely holiday! Love & Light from Miami Shores🦚 Stay safe mate🌎✌🏼 Peace & Prayers for the people of Ukraine🇺🇦

THAT would be an excellent film as well!!

I think a movie of the california's POV would also be interesting. They were in reach of assistence the whole 2h40m it took the ship to sink yet the cpt didnt assume the worse, dispite some of his senior staff's concerns. Wonder how this wasnt more scrutinized. I mean, they did nothing! And 1500 people met their deaths! Wtf hapened aboard the california???

@@ikki5806 The California repeatedly sent Titanic messages warning them, but a lot of messages were coming in real fast from other boats and the guy who took messages screamed at The California to stop messaging them because he couldn't think straight. After hearing that The California turned off communication. The California did everything right.

I liked the idea of a fictional survivor but the love story I didn't care about when I was 6 years old. To this day I liked the idea of using survivors stories and making a fictional person based on them. Rose or Jack alone could have worked. Roses story is something to relate to being born in the wrong class. She wanted freedom which was what woman wanted. She was going to be in a loveless marriage to keep her status which was a thing back then. Rose learning about life was a good idea learning to love a good idea. There is more than romance love. She could have learned from third class how to love life. Her mother learned there is more to life than class or status. She was equal to everyone in the lifeboats. That lesson obviously came too late for her mother but rose was young enough to change

Absolument d'accord avec vous : les 2 " insufferable characters" du film de Cameron font, hélas, sombrer son film dans ce que les Français appellent "roman pour gare", bluette sentimentale ridicule et longuette de surcroît...Bravo aux réalisateurs et acteurs de ce documentaire exceptionnel !

Agree, but Camerons’ version made him a multi-millionaire at box office. That’s Hollywood’s target for cinema 🎦 success.

The love story was unnecessary. It could have been done as just a married couple and had the same reaction. Instead an affair over a ship was meant to be heartbreaking.

Amen 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

110 years in 2 months time. May they rest in peace.

@@babangidanzegwu1476 I agree with you Babangida! 100%

*'God Blessed' all the people WHO DIED???* *WTF?* ( *Yeah...'Big G' is great at 'handing-out' 'Blessings' like the one He gave His Son* ) *'SUICIDE FOR YOU!* *Death by Torture' because some Bedouin Jew eating mushrooms somewhere wrote some frenzied prophecy a thousand-years before*

@@andypandy7769 *There were then and still are ice hazards in that region of the Atlantic and it's extremely rare to strike one and anything large enough to present a danger can be seen far in advance of actually being close to it* _____________ *Why ask rhetorical pointless questions of "Why live anywhere where there's ice and snow in the winter?* *Why learn to walk when you might fall down?* _____________ *Smith was a 'Senior Captain'...not a 'Commodore' which means command over other ship's Captains in a group* _____________ *Why are you 'childishly obtuse?'*

Even James Cameron's Titanic movie depicts the Engineers sacrificing their lives to keep the power on.

@@Edax_Royeaux in a 6 second long scene

@@darklord7479 A lot of people died in that movie in 6 second scenes.

Heroes.

Doing some research on Titanic lifeboat capacity= of 1178 people when full. Capacity on the maiden voyage was close to 3000 on the ship of passengers. A lifeboat could carry 70 people. One lifeboat had only 5 people in it when it was lowered(because no one believed it could sink, another only 22 in it. The bow of the boat started to dip down which means the lifeboats were not coming down so they could be filled with people. The collapsible lifeboats could not be opened properly because of the angle. The crew was not fully instructed on how to load the boats, so some became unhooked at one end and all the people dumped out. into the propellers (so spinning propeller came to the surface and chewed up the odd lifeboat). (There is about 6 different versions on the Titanic sinking, each with a different story angle. Some old black& white movies so closer to the event. . "Social Standing" in society put you in different parts of the ship. Those with money, fame, fortune got to sail on the uppermost decks AND THEY HAD THE RIGHT TO THE LIFEBOATS FIRST -many did not believe the ship was sinking so refused to don on a lifejacket or get into a Lifeboat. They were so insolated from the ship (or drunk) that they did not feel the collision with the iceberg. So they went back to the party. The band played on. The ship COULD NOT SINK & they believed that. It had 11 decks(floors) There were 5 classes of passenger. First class, first & second class, third class, 4th class and 5th class. While 1,2,3 had access to a window, 4 & 5 were closer to the center of the ship, so no fresh air for the entire journey. None of the classes MIXED. 5th class is poor people who just could afford the boat ride. So, this class distinction was even amongst the crew. The guys shoveling the coal for the boilers never intermingled with the passengers. Only the captain and First Mate could do that. Communicating was through a hollow tube, so Captain could ask for more steam or stop the engines. . The Lifeboats were electrically driven motors. No electricity means no life boats being lowered down.(something I did not know before this version of Titanic. The crew were not practiced, so "abandon ship" is not a practiced procedure. Women and children of first class first. This was at night as well. . Many of the 4th & 5th class were locked into the bowels of the ship by a wire cage. There is no way for them to get out until the lock was unlocked by the Purser. It wasn't. They are still in the ship. These would mainly be Irish as the English treated them as second class people and there was that "coal shortage issue" so they were going to go to the U.S. and start life anew mining for coal in the U.S. Once a miner, always a miner. . the sinking of the Titanic and loss of life is not the worst naval disaster. I believe it is the Wilhelm Gustloff, a German military "transport ship" out of Germany with Polish & German refugees was torpedoed by a Soviet submarine cause the loss of 9400 lives near the end of WW2 in the Black Sea. Making it the worst. . The Brits and the U.S. also sunk refugee ships (they are keeping quiet about it as "Top Secret fluck ups") The Poles and Germans that survived because they were on "other boats" know about this. . It is about 6500 lives lost. The people don't know the name of the ships because they were not on them and spoke German or Polish(not English) so they forget...as they are in their 80's.

@@bunzeebear2973 Titanic's engines were stopped throughout the sinking, the screws were not turning, nobody was chopped to death, that happened when Britannic was sinking a few years later after striking a mine.

@@bunzeebear2973 the Wilhelm Gustloff was not torpedoed in the Black Sea. It was the Baltic.

@@Mat-threw yeah idk how a german ship would still be in the black sea near the end of the ww2. i immediately think he could be referring to the baltic. a lot of people confuses the two.

Yes, this sinking and WWI was the end of the Edwardian age.

@@sifridbassoon What if none of them ever happened....the world would be such a different place. I love the Edwardian age. So much promise and spirit. Nothing was left in 1918.

So true, yet so sad…. At least they will always live with people like you and I who will always recognize their bravery, dedication and sacrifice!

Yes, they died to save a lot of people who saw them as second-class citizens.

Ditto. My late father was extremely disappointed in the James Cameron film too. Wish he could've seen this one... this was the type of story he liked

But there was boobs in Cameron's movie.

James Cameron film told a different story, of course you'd prefer this if you don't like romance

Don't lie. Cameron's Titanic was one of the finest movie ever. It was literally a masterpiece. Well acted and directed.

@@MeMatu true we have different preferences by age, when I was younger I love Cameron movie, now I love this.

Absolutely

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Very interesting.

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Took my words right out of my mouth. Agreed. :(

I'd argue that facts over drama is better. But to each their own. Was still a good docu

@@gage9171 smh-eye-roll.

@@gage9171 That's not TOO far from what I'm saying. At least the dramatizations here were based on various eyewitness testimonies - usually implying composites,

@@robvangessel3766 No not far at all, and I mean no way to offend either. I merely meant I prefer a mode of dry facts with diagrams and the broader scope of an event over scenes of drama, although I know it is important to be able to tell these stories in a more intimate way.

@@gage9171 I was as fascinated by the Catholic/Protestant political tensions amongst those engineers as anything else, as well as their emotional states. I knew nothing about that until this documentary came along. It provided better and more intriguing drama than any of the fictionalized flicks I've seen. The stoker at the center of this film, Fred Barrett, in real life, really did sign up to serve aboard when he discovered his wife had been unfaithful. The depiction here recounts his emotional state according to some eyewitnesses. Thus, the actors do offer us a good eye to what really went on. I enjoyed this film and 2 other Titanic docudramas equally factual to the point where I looked up and researched each crew member depicted. Refreshingly intelligent!

British and Irish, Best actors on the planet 👌

@@BurtonRdForever, it was an irish-german production, which in my opinion makes up for the Propaganda Movie. For which I as a german apologize.

Like being in TITANIC.

@@plokoon1912 As someone who has an M.A. in the Science of Modern History, I used to ask my professors how long Germany has to apologize for the sins committed by its grandfathers, fathers. To which he replied, when do we forgive ourselves for taking over America, when do we forgive the atrocities committed by our own great great grandfathers?’ I LOVED him for that. I’m not sure why you’re apologizing to anyone, and what for. Just thought I’d share that tidbit that walked with me for years until I got an an answer. Love & Light from Miami Shores🦚 Stay safe mate🌎✌🏼 Peace & Prayers for the people of Ukraine🇺🇦

@@katherinea.williams3044, thank you very much, your Professor sound like an awsome guy. And the same wishes go to you back from me

Almost every woman survived, which is pretty unfair!

@@jeovanpenteado9542 Really? What about the Women and girls in 3rd class? I'm betting MANY of them died as well. :(

@@jeovanpenteado9542 it wasn't a matter of fairness, it was the ethic of the times. The men viewed their role as men being in large part based on their ability to protect their families, their wives and children, and that's the ethic that made "Women and children first" into an assumed order of things. Although the survival rate for women was around 75% and for men about 20%, the men of the time wouldn't have been offended by that discrepancy. They would have been proud of the success of what they viewed as their duty. If this happened today, I think the children would have had a much higher survival rate, while the statistics for men and women would be very different. Men have strength, women have cold-tolerance, and the ethics of protecting the women at the expense of the men isn't a rigid social rule anymore. Fairness today is a lot more equal than it was then.

i don't think they would have had women crew at that time?

@@SoapinTrucker Not all got out. But percentage-wise, due to the means beliefs and societal norms, the lives of women and children were considered more important. So even in the third class more men perished that day then women, both numerically and percentage-based.

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