1988 documentary looking at English hooliganism and the introduction of a membership scheme at Luton. Crowd coverage of a Man City v Liverpool game I do not own any copyright
its easy to be romantic about this era in football. The spectator conditions were terrible but most people loved it! Working class lads allowed to stand.sit together,great atmospheres. Away day memories will live with me forever, some were terrifying, but you always went back
@@count69 Luton Town engineered the riot by making a midweek Millwall FA Cup visit pay at the gate. 8000 MIllwall fans on a 5000 capacity terrace. Inevitable violence follows and there is Evans holding his pious little hands up with his membership scheme and got what he was really after - election as a Tory MP the nasty little squirt.
@@alanwatkins5782 awwww bless you, is that the best you can do? Have a go at somebody for pressing the wrong button? Well if it makes you sleep better thats fine sweetheart xxx
@Mugged Off Not just people from Manchester. My mate was a victim of you lot. He was walking to Anfield past Stanley park and he felt something on his back his shirt was covered in blood he had to have 38 stitches in a knife wound in his back from one of your lot. So don't give me that crap.
@@antonyhobbs1144 Were you complaining when Utd and the Men in Black and Cockney Reds beat people to a pulp and used knives? No i doubt it. Suck it up lad in that game rules go out the window.
Ive never met a football lad who never loved his team and football. That's another media myth that hooligans didn't like football! Absolute bullshit. Also, I seldom knew any lads who didn't work, yeah there was a few who jibbed their way by robbing and scrounging but in the main most football lads worked. So the excuse that hiking ticket prices is to deter the hooligans was a smokescreen to screw more money from everybody. All high ticket prices coupled with Sky sports have done is stop local,working class kids going thus turning their back on the core support that kept most clubs going for the first hundred years of their existence. All seater just put the final nail in the coffin.
It was Murdoch who wanted control of the game! Talked up violence through their press! He got the old owners out of the game and started the premier league.
@@shhhplease1050 yes it would have but a lot of it was the passion, adrenaline and tribalism created by the thatcher hatred towards the poor working class people if i recall, i was very young then but always saw a streeker and some sort of scuffle, that's what was normal for a ten year old at the time.
Apparently stolen overnight. Biggest load of crap I’ve ever heard. Although it might have had footage of Jackson, the top police officer there on the day, cowering under the desk in the police control box about 45 minutes after the disaster started.
The sickening thing wasn’t any hooliganism or anything like that, it was the fact that the police not only caused the hillsborough disaster but spent 27 years denying it and covering it up. Football hooliganism didn’t take place in the ground then anyway it hadn’t since the 70’s with a couple of exceptions.
boris Trump there was a photo of a football hooligan from Italy firing a gun at the crowd and they went running away because they didn’t know that it was shooting blanks but they never mention that sort of stuff
Course it was. I’m sure the Liverpool fans knew that the tunnel to the central pens really went to the whole terrace. They also didn’t know that the central pens were full because the entrance to the tunnel was still open. Unlike in 88. I’m not a Liverpool fan but people who still blame it on them need their heads testing.
Mr Kipling it is upsetting that men that hadn’t got a clue as to whether or not they were being murdered are collectively blamed for the tragic accident that occurred because someone wanted to put the wind up them what happened to the inquiry at that stadium that wasn’t only a little thing. Also the terrible horrific thing that happened when the fire caught at the hills borough stadium I know that they went robbing well some of them did but they didn’t get a fair hearing then and that has got to change innit
Alun Davies fire caught at hillsborough?? That was Bradford. I agree with you on the other stuff though, bloody police coverups were the order of the day unfortunately.
"Luton believes that almost any price is worth paying that will rid them of the hooligan scourge, and it certainly cost them dear...." Now in the conference... just desserts. Shit ground, no fans. Who the hell did they think they were?!
Number 1 looking oddments. Inbreds. There a very strange looking bunch. Yeah. As for the riot at Luton the millwall end was full ov firms from all over london. 8 thousand millwall fans away. Do me a flavour. They'd be lucky to fill a taxi.
Bert Milichip. “Nothing more we can do but to exaggerate and encourage hooligans through the Murdoch press so that!.. yes you guessed it Murdoch bought the whole game with his TV money.
Yeah Now it's a tepid emasculated billion dollar business run and played by foreigner billionaires and millionaires who kneel to a black American marxist movement
Look at the faces of City and Liverpool fans. Proper homegrown fans, lads from the town representing the team in their own back yard. Not a foreign glory hunter from Egypt, Algeria, India etc or Asian football tourist in sight. Happy days.
@@mrkipling2201 they went into the stand moonboy, the away end was terraced as most grounds were mainly terraced then football existed before all seater stadiums were introduced & sanitised football adios star gazer 🤣😂🤣😂💩👀
David Nolan I know what happened, Luton didn’t make the game all ticket for away fans and about 10,000 millwall fans squeezed into the away terrace that only safely held about 8,000. That was one of the reasons why they started invading the pitch before, during and after the game. Then after the game they went into the corner of the stand that ran the length of the pitch and ripped seats out and threw them at the police. I know grounds had terraces then, I used to stand on them every week. So please don’t paint me as some Johnny come lately fan. Glad we cleared that up.
@@mrkipling2201 you just answered your self, trouble started on the terrace behind the goal they wanted seats to throw so moved into the adjacent seated area as it was nearer than the moon, now then moonboy what seating is popular on the moon bucket seats, Chesterfields do enlighten me star gazing seatoligist👀
There was an atmos that just doesnt happen anymore. A lot of games ended in a punchup outside afterwards and you dont get that so much nowadays either. In a way thats good but its sad in a way - the fire has gone out in most stadiums.
Marlene your so right wishing that..I clearly remember the atmosphere was electric at the grounds that were not all seats in 1970s and 1980s. Now too sanitised and expensive the great atmosphere has gone.No loyalty to fans and players get obscenely over paid.I have lost interest in the game and I was a fanatic.
Same as any city's or towns in uk and Europe ow so true!....its just a pity they didn't all stand as one saying that different generation most of these deluded fans mix with shyt as do big brother watching them those days have gone sorry kidas but that's the bottom line do your self a favour and stand for country sort the shit were in grow a pair!..
The video footage not shown by the mainstream media on the 7/10/2017 When there was well over 30’000 of us Marching against extremism and terrorism. Stop blowing our people up !
@Zia Smith knows. Working class who are traitors to their own community and lick the boot of the elite and their tactics to cause division to weaken us. Far right workers are the worst.
@@dylma9605 since when? What a nonsense statement. Zero proof behind it. You've swallowed the myths and lies put out by the left obviously which is one of their biggest skills. Brainwashing.
When i was a kid you could go and watch you team for half a crown naturally you wanted to win but if you lost you lost so what it was a cheap day out but now it costs a weeks wages to watch a game and another day's if yo want anything to eat so it hasn't been a cheap day out so when you loose you've spent a weeks wages been treated worse than cattle and don't even have the satisfaction of winning. Then someone starts making fun of you. You're going to react
Throughout the late 70s and early 80s the followers of West Ham, Millwall, Leeds and Chelsea were some of the worst firms around. Portsmouth also had a nasty firm. Just because Liverpool were at the Heysel Stadium in 1985 doesn't make them scallywags!
mcsquare77 Liverpool exported hooliganism to the continent, that common knowledge. The scoucers would rob the clothes shops in Spain and Italy - the birth of terrace chic.
***** That's not true at all though, people get caught up in it all the time. Pubs get smashed up all the time, buses, trains, all sorts of places where people congregate. And all just because thugs think it's fun. You are vermin.
The English were globally successful in exporting the sport. Unfortunately, they were equally successful with its by product......hooliganism. To this day, it's an English disease. For this reason mainly, they'll never win anything as a national team.
No crowd is safe to be stuck in the middle of Kev. I have experience of this myself. The English are infamous for their middle ages behaviour and for this reason, are hated throughout Europe, even if most don't show it. When you lot failed to qualify for Euro 2008 (or was it 2012?) it was a blessing as the respective Police forces had significantly less to deal with. Other countries may have trouble in soccer arenas but it was the Anglo Saxon that exported it to other places (like other evils in the world)
I live in the present Kev and in recent times have seen this on your island for my own eyes. If you choose to believe that this is in the past, this is your entitlement.
Justice Popplewell. Ah, yes of course, all the football violence ever perpetuated is English. A long line of Popplewell's serving the state. Presumably they and him have never acquainted themselves with the 1980 Scottish Cup Final! Up the union LCJ!!!!
I know Swales got a lot of abuse but at least he was a fan of the game, unlike that twat Evans. Swales knew that banning away fans wouldn’t work. Without the fans of both clubs being in the ground then you didn’t have an atmosphere. Although nowadays it doesn’t matter if both sets of fans are in the ground, there’s no atmosphere anyway.
Luton have there own mob,The Migs,they used too run amok like everyone else,this guy has no clue,you need awayfans orthe atmosphere is crap,hoolies don’t go too McDonald’s and rob it for a free burger the game is too be discreet and meet the other crew it’s not about scaring normal joes,the are talking bollocks,A,DEEN1
He was very wrong about a tiny minority. The whole country comes together when England play in the euro's and world Cup. Even the women who stay at home Saturday afternoon listened to it on radio. Small minority my arse, most of the country love footy, most of the world love footy, the English premier league is watched world wide. The hooligans have not gone away either they just take the ruck away from the ground. Everyone in the stadium is a potential hooligan. Football has a way of changing people.
Phenomenon Bollocks!! The NF tried selling their papers at Maine Rd and got kicked to fuck absolutely splattered. Most of our lads were black or of mixed race. Same with Birmingham , Arsenal, Spurs and many others.
Anyone would think that Liverpool are murderous, well maybe in the eyes of juventus fans.., all teams to a certain extent had thuggish behaviour in the 1980s, the high profile ones, like Millwall, Chelsea, west ham, probably made the problem even bigger than it already was!!
