The only criticism i would give chicken is to moderate the convo 75% better... It was TOO many times where he shouldve been like "Yoo lets have a discussion abo it the issue not a screaming contest"
I really hope there is no more drama because I love you, and lion as a fan, and I really do I really wish all the drama will be settled, and gone for good, and you both become friends again.
I'm just praying that things work out. In the words of TMNT 2007 movie (quoted Leonardo) I hate to see Brothers fight. ( Raphael quote) unless it's together. If you know you and you get what I'm trying to say.
Don’t worry brother you have me and lots of people behind you your incredible creator very talented great blood brother to me lots of love be safe I’m here to talk if you need me
I mean KL is right for pins to go and make a video no the goku vs the masks live stream but say KL was toxic KL only came in the live stream when Divine and kaiz team up on chicken but pins to go and say KL was toxic was a L but not asking Divine and kaiz why they was 2v1 chicken but pins do be looking for friends
I love how kinglion says "he just said they were questions! it's recorded!!" but than you go back and see he said "they were rhetorical questions." lmao kinglion is just a clown that cant take his L
Ion understand why people can’t see what KingLion’s saying. Bro made a video about KingLion and lied on the video, now he’s trying to play stupid. KingLion wants bro to just admit that he’s lying and spreading misinformation. KingLion isn’t in the wrong here, sorry bro hopefully you and KingLion become mutuals again 🙏🏾
After hearing comics live I can understand why King is always on edge and why he feels the need to defend himself.King thinks he's always being painted as the villian which I believe he's underdeserving of that title however I also think to some extent it's partially his own fault and I'll explain why. If you're from the debate community you know this. Sperging is used as a form of rhetoric which anyone can attest to. It doesn't necessarily mean there's bad blood between two people it's just how they engage with each other.Now whether or not it's based on the subjective mind of a viewer it doesn't remove or change the kind of environment they're in its just the people involved are being tolerant.Now watching the live I can say this King was being a sperg which wouldn't be a bad thing again if he actually tried to be progressive and be more persuasive in his arguments instead of saying shit like "take the L like a man" or trying to get the chat against divine and doing that ridiculous dog walk meme. What it all comes down to King can be very ignorant and by choice as his denunciation of powerscaling combined with egotistical persona that he tries to spread around tiktok it really tends to rub people the wrong way.
You missed all the parts where he's actually very caring, compassionate, listens and tries his best to never be biased in any debate...there's even been times people have donated to him and he's given them more back than they gave him...not to mention constantly having source material to back up anything he says. What you speak of here, is just his character and who he is as a person. Once you understand that, it becomes easier to get him. He's outspoken and likes to prove his point and personally, a lil arrogance or confidence in yourself hurts no one, especially if you have the proof to win any debate. Now. Everything you've mentioned pretty much goes out the window, when you realise that he could have died of covid and he had people telling him he should have died, people being racist to him, people telling him covid should have won, people telling him he doesn't deserve human rights, threatening him, mass reporting him and sexually threatening his wife....over fixional characters. At this point in time, anything king says or does is valid. Because he knows full well, if he was to do any of the things I've stated above to anyone, he'd be cancelled and mass reported. If he was to ever weaponise his following against anyone, hed be cancelled and mass reported...but what he's not gonna do is sit idly by and take it all from people, because I definitely wouldn't. So yes him defending himself or telling people to take Ls (that they deserved) whether it be a joke or not, is valid. Whether you chose to accept that or not is entirely up to you
@@shodai9_ Bru im sorry but loin has sum of the worst takes and opinions on power scaling on all of TIk tok When he gets completely debunked wich happens often cuz when you believe black panther beats characters like flash and superman people are going to be coming for you- he never apologizes or admits defeat he usually makes a new vid with baseless claims like he did when he was debating flash vs ss No matter how many evidence they sent at him its as if he just ignored it all together- so ignorance and arrogant persona is definitely a way to describe him. He doesn't deserve all the hate he gets sure but he causes 90% of his own problems and leaves a bad taste in the mouths of content creators that try and correct him when he is wrong
@@stfu5013 how does he have some of the worst takes when he ALWAYS has the book or video to back whatever he's claiming?? Power scalers are one of the most retarded people that bring up the silliest numbers and calculations to try to scale a character Kinglion is simple. Watch the show, use the source material to make your judgement. Kinglion has one of the best knowledge in terms of marvel and DC, because he has almost every book...something every other creator does not. And he's right about black panther beating flash. His suit now gives him the same speed or relatively close to speedsters now. Kinglion also specifically showed the scans where DEATHSTROKE with the speed force, put the fear of God into Wally west...or was it Barry Allen, can't remember ....to the point where he had to go to deathstroke's daughter just to bitch about it. So yes. Black Panther would kill flash
@@stfu5013 the "evidence" people try to use is almost ALWAYS misinterpreted ...people don't know how to read and they just assume shit, or take it from quorra as their "proof" when they don't read the damn book. Time after time, kinglion has brought out the exact book, went to the exact page and read it out, to prove that all these people do is lie and lie in their "debates and scaling"
@@shodai9_ Lmao nope- people that have debunked lion like comics related, stult etc all gave multiple pages and proof Loin doesn't do research on both characters in a battle- that's how he went from believing wanda slams LM to then being debunked and saying well at best i see a draw You wanna know why mr Loin d rider Cause he has no shit of a clue what speed scaling is or how it works Nor does he have a clue abt dc cosmology and even worse he hardly understands the marvel cosmology which he advocates so heavily on But go on tell me im wrong 💀
Using King’s analogy. If you see Chicken beating a girl up, you shouldn’t run to the cops saying “I seen Chicken beating up a girl” before you should actually have context on the situation because it could be his best friend. You should have context on the situation before you go and make a video on something you don’t have context on. It’s called spreading misinformation 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
So after watching all of it my take is I see why Lion was irritated about false information but I get Pinyo was trying to explain that in the past Lion has done the same thing. Lion has a comic that is his part of his bread and butter so I get his image needs to be protected but he didn't have to sideways with the insults first which then made Pinyo do the same thing. I think Lion blocked you Chicken just to get out of the situation not to necessarily be rude to you, to protect his image. If Pinyo should have apologized for what he did and Lion should have apologized for what he did to Pinyo. Simple as that.
Bro i swear kinglion is wrong and he doesn't even know it💀 everytime if someone says something you are racist to him💀 i am black but i wouldn't use the race stuff to look like the victim, at this point he should quit debating
Tbh he definitely block you because you're friends with him you did nothing wrong the only one who actually lied on someone was lion I remember when they first got into it lion he is a gaslighting machine and he's sarcastic asf as you can tell in his apology
Why lion just go on a 3 minute monolog and to me everyone but lion was being calm as lion is yelling and overreacting like a kid screaming over fortnite 😂
@@wadewillytv60 faxs and the fact he was the one being disrespectful and cursing at people the whole time it even sounded like he was being rude to you when all you wanted to do was get them to get along squash the beef
So the thing is Pinyo saw a live that had his friend Kazi and thought it was toxic and made a video about the live. And in the start of the live which pinyo could not see cause he states he joined the live late and didn’t hear that part. Lion in this live keeps talking about how kazi and him were not toxic in that live and refers to the start of the live but pinyo would not have watched that live and the video would be his response to that live he thought was toxic and and did not see the start of.And pinyo in the live makes up with chicken pretty easily.Pinyo in this live then brings up how lion in the past when disagreeing with him over talking about a goku is a bad dad debate on tik tok but not only was pins not talking bad about him he was just telling lion how he’s wrong about goku intentions during the cell and buy saga.Lions vid about pinyo before is just him talking about pins video in a very disrespectful tone.Lion keeps bringing it up and talks to chicken like a moderator in this even though his beef is with pinyo. Pinyo then talks about his perspective and how to him it looked toxic from a friend of kazis perspective. Lion interrupts and says if pinyo had a problem he could have just gone to chicken and kazi to tell them if it was toxic and not make a video on it.pinyo and chicken say they had never interacted before this live so that would not be possible. Pinyo says that maybe he should have but to him it seemed justified to talk about it because that’s his friend. Him not knowing who his friend is friends with because who does that made is sorta right in the vid before he got blocked pinyo was talking about how lion was very disrespectful to a whole group of people who do power scales and pixel scales and pinyo bring it up to say if you felt hurt by that why block me instead of coming to me to talk about in dms making king lion a sort of hypocrite to pinyo and explains that. So basically, the live comes down to chicken and pinyo becoming friends. Lion making references to the start of the live pinyo is saying was toxic even though pinyo says he was not their for the start where they explain it was all in good fun as friends.Lion also talks about how he could’ve talked to chicken about it even though pins and chicken were not buddy-buddy yet. Pinyo in the live explains a time when lion blocked pins for disagreeing with him and not coming to talk with him about it and saying lion is a hypocrite. Lion keeps using chicken as like a moderator for a debate even though it’s supposed to be a talk with pinyo and he’s not addressing pinyo but address chicken a lot. Pinyo also does the same when lion will just not listen to him. Lion also keeps saying “did I hurt you did I make you feel bad” in a sarcastic voice as if to egg on pinyo. Pinyo is willing to let bygones be bygones but lion wants an apology for the vid and then leaves after an hour of “talking” but it was mostly both of them talking over each other constantly.kazi joins and becomes moderator number 2 for both of them and kazi and chicken say yes to both pins and lions perspective being right. Also it’s just kazi getting donations and him being excited by the amount he being donated. By the end after lion leaves they talk some more and kazi chicken and pinyo start getting a bit sus.
This whole thing is a mess bro.. King Lion was kind of right. Pinoy shouldn't be making videos about shit when he doesn't know the whole story. BUT, the way King Lion handles his debates and arguments are just way too aggressive. I understand sometimes when he goes off because of all the shit he went through when he had covid. And the way people are always fucking with him. But still, he's too successful to be this angry from my outside perspective. To sum it up Pinoy was wrong, but calm and handled it well. King Lion should calm down, and maybe learn to ignore shit, cause people are always gonna be talking shit and giving their opinions. Chicken just be out here chillin'.
well after watching all of these KL in these lives were never wrong like at all its just how he talks and if you actually watch his lives KL is actually a cool dude but if he feels disrespected he gives the same energy back and in this live pin was in the wrong fosho. but when comicsrelated actually go live and talk with pin i understand where he is coming from calling him toxic and all that and i get where KL is coming from mf has a lot of haters and people still bringing up when he got covid and its fucked up like saying he didn’t deserve to fucking breath over fictional characters and people saying about R his wife like that shits are fucked up im surprise hes still going strong and i mean like i dont think anyone is in the wrong here just some misunderstanding.
@@Iamsora777 No, I understand completely. I'm just making it known that I'm not biased at all. I rock with Lion, I've bought his books. The only thing I don't like about him is how hot headed he gets in debates. His solo videos are good. He's very knowledgeable. And like I said, the Pinoy dude was wrong. He shouldn't be speaking on a situation without more details. Because him going around and speaking all this negativity and making Lion look bad could hurt his career. Especially now while Black Sands is growing so rapidly. In my opinion, it almost seems like Lion got felt some repercussions from Pinoy's misinformation and that's why he's so mad. I just feel bad for Chicken Lord cause he just be there chilling and then all hell breaks loose, Lmao. Like when he randomly became a moderator for a debate without knowing it.
If you don't know about something, do not speak on it, until you do. If you do not have full context, you are in no position to speak or give an opinion until you do. If you do not know what 2+2 is, you owe it to yourself yo learn how to count and find out what the answer is, before assuming it's 5. I'm sorry, kinglion is 100% correct here
Let's say there's a situation where there's two friends a boy and a girl who when they joke around the guy slaps the girl and hit her for fun but it's an inside joke between them so no one knows but them and you see the guy beating on the girl your not gonna jump in to stop it because you don't know the context or are you gonna jump in because from your perspective it looks like she's getting abused so the logical thing is to stop it not to wait around to get the context
@@kobemarsh3875 no he was not. If you know king, you understand the way he talks. He naturally raises his voice when he's trying to prove a point and he's clearly not being heard. ...and how is it gaslighting, when he LITERALLY repeated exactly what kazi said to him??? Pls explain
@@hibbyjibby7102 if I've never met them before in my life and I want to get involved with what's not my business, I'll ask him "what are you doing", to which he'll reply "she's my friend, we do this all the time". And if I am observant, I'll see that she's not in pain, neither is she crying or scared, so he must be telling the truth. If I want to further find out more context, I'll ask her "is this true, to which she'll say "yes". What we're not gonna do, is act like we won't mind our businesses, if it was the other way around...you see a girl hitting a guy, 9.5 times out of 10, the public turns the other eye like they didn't just see that. So stop it.
