The Epic Experience Nintendo May Never Top │ A Subspace Emissary Retrospective 

Vxpor if only sakurai showed the same compassion for my boy bandanna dee 😞

"I'm also likely one of the strongest Nintendo characters canonically. Fight me. Literally. I'll show you that my description of infinite power ain't no joke.😎"

@@popstarchamp ok, this is epic

‘Papa Sakurai loves me most” -Kirby -Arlo 2018 -Vxpor 2018 -Qhew 2018 -{OwOShibe} 2018

"Papa Sakurai loves me most" -Kirby -Arlo 2018 - Vxpor 2018 -Qhew 2018 - (OwoOshibe) 2018 - Silver Sheild 2018 - J Boksiner 2018

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The reason why sakurai never gave smash 4 a story mode was because the cutscenes were rewards and he didn’t like the fact that you could just look it up on RU-vid with out have to work for it

@@isfren5482 to me that's still a petty reason, guess he never noticed pretty much all games have a similar "issue"

Isai Frenette Unfortunately, that’s just how the world works nowadays.

@@isfren5482 yeah,so he made kirby rye only survivor.

what the hell overtook it

@@ilexdiapason I would also like to know lol

From what I heard it wasn’t the longest fanfiction. It was the longest piece of literature ever created.

@@ilexdiapason A Loud House fanfic

Could I have a link to that fanfic?

My issue is that the ending didn’t even explain half of what was going on in the story and why it happened. It really did feel rushed.

@Christoffer113 You ever watch Fargo or Gone With The Wind? They had endings with no real 'conclusions'? I guess they're extremely lazy and not thought out in any way.

Especially since it’s possible to finish the game with only Kirby, Luigi, Ness, Bowser, King Dedede and Sonic. They’d have to either automatically give you every character or make multiple cutscenes for each possible scenario

It all would have been fine, if we'd gotten to see just a little bit more character interaction as an epilogue. Various groups patting each other on the back for a job well done, certain people heading their seperate ways... But they genuinely were running out of time and money by the end of things, which is why Sonic's introduction (and gameplay) are so rushed.

The ending is the opening to world of light

Dangit I was gonna comment that

Lucas M your name says lucas but it shows pirahna plant

Who said that

That’s the truest statement ever said

I should really scroll further down before I post my comments lmao

Billiondollar idea

Or, NCU for short. *:3*

And hey, if Detective Pikachu proves to be as popular as the trailer has been so far, maybe they'll be able to start making other live-action versions of their IPs. If all the movies are popular enough, then have it following a similar formula to the MCU and have a big crossover event... a live action movie of Smash Bros...

Illumination making a Mario film? Make subspace HD

What if detective pikachu is the first of the NCU 🧐 (like Ironman for the avengers and the MCU)

Markus Kramer - Oh man, I can only hope and then hopefully Nintendo follows up with a COMPLETE/Nintendo Select version of Super Smash Bros.: Ultimate physical copy with ALL the Updates/Patches/DLC.

I would literally pay upwards of a hundred dollars if they made a dlc for ultimate

Bro Fuck WHY HAVEN'T THEY DONE THAT!?!? ARE THEY ALLERGIC TO MONEY???

2 years later. Hello

Oh hi

It's also a cheeky joke at the fact that they saved Snake's debut for so long into the campaign.

Oh wow, this is bran new information

How did this get 150 upvotes. Conspiracy.

I know what you mean. Smash 4 kinda felt 'little' without a story mode. The missions were not bad, but nothing that could beat the Subspace emissary!

Hey that rhymes!

@@mr.glurak9492 Subspace is bullshit. Why? It just brings more toxic people yelling at Sakurai for not bringing subspace into ultimate poor sakurai

​@@RU-vidr-xi6qo The Subspace was everything a Nintendo fan could ask for, and still has tons of great memories for me. I couldn't wish for me a better crossover story.

@@mr.glurak9492 Sakurai said the Subspace was complete hell and he never wanted to do another one. So they just made a Way Simpler one in Ultimate for Sakurai (and his team) health. I hope you care about Sakurai’s health

SAME

...when you’re having fun

*old snake gif*

Reading this comment made me feel even older...

@@greysquirtle5144 bro for real it’s now two years later since this comment 😂

YES!!! A SMASH BROS CINEMATIC UNIVERSE! DO IT!! We have Pokemon and Sonic both done pretty good, next is Mario's turn.

I liked it. Most of the reasons people bring up for not liking it are entirely valid, I'd even agree with most of them but none of them bothered me that much when playing through it and even looking back on it. I don't know how much of that was Brawl coming out at the perfect time for me, I'd just left college so at that point nearly all of my gaming was single player and 'hey this primarily multiplayer game you like's next installment has more single player content than ever before' - the adventure mode which the first couple of times through were cool but quickly became repetitive replaced by an overarching 10 hour story campaign... But I like Subspace.

I had literally the exact same experience. I had to buy a new copy of brawl because after playing my first copy so much, it melted.

Brawl is perfect, so was Subsapce! Its a new generation now. Edgy kids have grown up after brawls time and think its cool to hate

@@maverickay5807 Uh... It's actually completely the opposite. It's the kids who grew up on Melee and 64 that hate Brawl, because the general gameplay was so different and lackluster compared to what they were used to. But the new generation at the time didn't have any of those preconceptions, and fell in love with it. The newer kids that would have grown up on Smash 4 probably don't even realise that Brawl exists, much in the same way that most of the kids that grew up on Brawl had no idea about Melee. And even though Brawl is such a massive portion of my childhood, my biggest source of nostalgia, and one of my favourite games of all time... it's not perfect. Not by a long shot. It has all the bells and whistles you could ever want in your entire life, but that all gets a little soured by how hard Sakurai dropped the ball on the fundamental gameplay because he was so desperate not to make a Melee 2. Subspace has some rushed bits and lackluster level design, even if the rest of it is probably the best thing to happen... ever. So I can see why it's not for everyone. Still... Funny how times change.

I played through Subspace once and hated nearly everything about it. I think the only things that I did enjoy were the ridley boss fights. The actual meat of it, the levels, were completely uninspired. meandering dreck with generic hazards and visuals. For a crossover game like this I have no idea why subspace opted not to primarily focus on environments and enemies from nintendo games. Would it have been too much work? If so they shouldn't have even bothered with an adventure mode of this scale to begin with. It's hard for me to look at SSE and not see a total waste of time and resources.

@touma it's a joke about how mega rayquaza have his own tier level called "anything goes"

@touma so this special form of Rayquaza called Mega Rayquaza utterly broke the competitive scene at every level- it was so good that the Pokemon online battling community (called Smogon- it's unofficial but it's a huge presence in competitive Pokemon) banned it from the BANLIST TIER. They had to make a new tier called "Anything Goes" specifically for it.

given the context of the comment, im sure it was just a coincidence

@@DukeApples im pretty sure it was too, but it was still funny for those who noticed it

Actually Mega-Rayquaza is in the mega-ubers tier, which is the banned from the uber tier but Mega-Rayquaza is the only one there so when people want to use it, they have to go to the Anything Goes mode in Pokémon Showdown which eliminates some stuff like being unable to freeze and sleep more than one Pokémon, not being able to use moves that lower accuracity or raises evasion, etc.

Where did sonic come from in subspace? I think they could have walked up afterwards.

ghostoftime1 Zelda can change form to sheik, why not a different Zelda? Idk that’s a good point, maybe a few days later or something

@@adamjones6473 sheik is zelda (-_-)

Darius Cross I’m aware

@@dariuscross2946 He already said that

Normally I'm a big Wario fan, but even I thought "that S.O.B. must pay" when I saw that.

Lucas and Ness actually don't even know each other at all

@@ginorincon9183 In the smash universe, it appears that they do. It doesnt really matter what happens in the Mother series, since this is a seperate cannon

Same

Dont you mean brawled.

...or you could just watch it on RU-vid.

@@amber_toiletbowlfingers Watching in the youtube is what made Sakurai quitting on make a successor to Subspace -.-

Watch it on youtube. The platforming in Subspace was soooo bad, it's a slog to get through.

@@Linkzx007 Literally EVERY game has a movie supercut on RU-vid, Sakurai just wanted an excuse for not doing a story mode on Wii U

If people just want to watch the cutscenes shouldn't they be able to? If Nintendo did release it on the eShop/DVD/Netflix, I'd say go right ahead and buy it. But they haven't. And if watching the cutscenes for Subspace was enough for people to not want to go out and buy Brawl... I don't really know what to say. The vast majority of people who would think those cutscenes were cool are hardcore Nintendo fans who bought Brawl on launch. If it was something like Final Hallway XIII on youtube hurting sales, I might believe you, but not Brawl.

KiddKoalaz :(

I bought one for Smash before Smash was announced, no joke. When that part aired I laughed as I just knew I’d need it 21 months or so down the line, lol.

I can't the router is too distant from my switch

why the generics doesn't work?

Moneysuckers

Technically, it was nintendo since they forced sakurai to make it

@@putridmoldyman306 correction, they didn't force him to do it. When Nintendo announced a smash title for the wii, Sakurai was surprised without them letting him know. Nintendo asked if he wanted to direct the new title, if he said no, it was just going to be a melee port with new features and stuff. So Nintendo never really forced him, they just asked.

@@isthatajojoreference That does sound like he was forced though.

So,I should thank shakuria for the laziest representation of any character in smash?I understand brawl but his changes from brawl to ultimate at just giving him star fox moves that "at laggier but cover more distance"

@@ahmadkazan7994 He's doing his best

TruPotato also his only implementation in ultimate is his empty absolutely safe capsule, so he just might be coming back . . .

Hasn't overuse of time travel made him effectively immortal, not his robot? Or am I misremembering?

@@13nrandom Nah, you're right

Eh I wouldn't go that far

"and double its length without warning" I mean...Symphony of the Night...and that's kind of the weakest part of the game when you get over the initial excitement...Symphony is fan-friggin-tastic, but the second half proves exactly why the game only really worked right-side up.

Only one reply, WHAT!!

I hope you are right.

Remember when Nintendo said, that Smash 4 is going to have a story mode, but they scrapped it because people posted and spoiled cutscenes in the Internet?

Cool idea, but it doesn’t explain where the Ultimate newcomers came from after Brawl’s ending. :/

@@Triff3599 Well, the Story Mode from Ultimate isn't Subspace Emissary.

guess what it did actually because the idea of this being the next one is an insult

*what is the purpose of using this font*

*Was this an intended pun*

@@justashyguy2889 ?

J.G Jonny Didn’t we all?

*I didn't :-(*

To be fair, Infinity War was best written big crossover event movie to date.

@@realar Not for me that never gave a shit about Super Heroes. I still prefer Subspace

the ytp experience is just right

I thought he was going to talk about Balloon Fight online!

i thought he was talking about ROBLOX Battle Royale

Honestly, I would kill a man for a proper Subspace Emmisary-type "cutscenes" based on that doofy YTP-based Smash Bros Lawl thing...

I actually loved the level design and randomness (except SUBSPACE) and one of my favorite moments was the Halberd levels and ending them with the silly moment when G&W just appears out of Shadow Bugs and joins the team

For you maybe

Isnt there only one wii kirby game?

M.O Epic Yarn and Return to Dreamland. While some consider the former a spin off I don’t since it’s still a 2D platformer and lots of fun

Why are people pushing this "star allies is bad" train? It's quite similar to the wii/3ds games, and those were awesome!

@@pondscum9363 It's too easy and lacking in content compared to other kirby games

Epic Yarn is ok but kinda dull for some. Return to Dreamland might be my favourite, and Triple Deluxe is very good as well, and I've heard that Robobot is great as well but I didn't play that one. Star Allies is fine as well but not really worth the price.

mario odyssey has a whole world dedicated to donkey kong. He didn't really choose a good example lol

@@joakkar True that. let's not forget that they also crossed over in Donkey Kong '94 for Game Boy. As well as umm, Donkey Kong arcade from 1981 if you wanna count that iteration of DK.

That's debatable at BEST tho. Mario vs Donkey Kong is a series based on the classic Donkey Kong arcade game, to the point of focusing on Pauline as a character over any Mario or DK exclusives. You don't get to see Cranky Kong show up as an NPC in New Donk City, not even Diddy. You feel me?

@@JacksonJinn Yes but Mario and Donkey Kong do cross over in Mario vs DK. Same with Donkey Kong '94 for Game Boy. Even if other characters are missing, Mario and DK are still there and do cross over

To be fair, Mario vs. Donkey Kong has Toad, Peach, and Luigi in some form.

MOAR

It saddens me he doesn't know Earthbound...

Something about you seems familiar.

Oh yeah yeah

You've been eating lots of butternut squash, I see

Is that a question?

What makes it more valid is that Kirby is the only character that survived in the World of Light intro!

I completely agree ; I'd pay full price for a 'Subspace 2', lots of the comments section didn't seem to like the platforming but I found it fun especially given the context of all the characters coming together and now, with Mega Man, Villager, Inkling and Ridley as playable characters this would be a dream come true.

Hakaco. i just did it a few weeks ago XD

I'll be damned if I have to come back to this comment ten years from now and give you a congratulatory you told us so

The Mlg Pyro More!

PsychokinRazalon More what

How's that inappropriate?

The Mlg Pyro thats right, the preferred term is “unalive”

Kids need to learn that everything dies. It's sad but true.

Gameexplain

@@turtleanton6539 That's the best nintendo NEWS channel, but not the best nintendo channel

Puppet? what do you mean puppet? hes a monster not a puppet, dont you see?

@@martinmar5753 I think he was talking in about Taboo controlling the Master Hand, otherwise, I didn't see any puppets.

@@jareddanko7959 Im pretty sure he was talking about arlo being a puppet, i corrected him, hes not a puppet, hes a real life monster.

Dax Masterix Yes! I second this! I’m sure he’ll love it.

When he said "weirdo robot with a kid inside" I was like "OH YOU HAVE NO IDEA"

I third this

@@jeremytewari3346 you should give me an idea =) I've never had an immediate urge to play mother because I heard its pretty grindy, so I stayed away because I couldn't find any justifications for the grind , but I bet you know something I don't about it. I've heard the story elements are sort of bizarre, but is it all that?

joey mancuso So here’s the thing. Most people prefer Earthbound/Mother 2 over the others, but I think Earthbound is harder to get into the longer you wait, as it’s gameplay does have some very dated elements, but I wouldn’t say grinding is one of them. Without grinding the game is pretty beatable, and I think that the argument about grinding comes from the fact that the start of the game is a huge difficulty spike from the start, so lots of people are inclined to grind. Earthbound’s quirkiness and its experience are what the game is about, but if you want a more heartfelt recommendation for the game I’d ask someone else, because I don’t think I can give one, mostly because I see Mother 3 as a vast improvement. It fixes all major gameplay problems and has a great story, in addition to the quirky humor and charm of Earthbound (one of the game’s 8 chapters is pretty much exactly like Earthbound in an homagey format because the game is super different.) I would definitely at least try to play Earthbound, at least up until you reach the location Fourside, and if that doesn’t do it for you then you can stop there and either watch a let’s play or pick up Mother 3, as you will probably be able to understand the story at that point with simple inferences. As for Mother 1/Earthbound Beginnings, while it did technically come first, I think it would be much better played after completing Earthbound, as it gives lots of context to the game but is in no way required to understand the basic plot, whereas Mother 3 makes much less sense without having at least seen the first part of the game. Mother 1 is also a much harder game to get into the series from because of its admittedly dated mechanics, but still definitely worth playing or watching a play through of (the latter might be better) So you should play the games in this order. First play Earthbound, if you finish it, go back and play Mother 1, and then play Mother 3. If you only play the first part of Earthbound, skip straight to Mother 3, don’t even bother with Mother 1 as you probably won’t like it, and then if the game makes you feel so inclined go back and finish Earthbound and then maybe Mother 1. Well that’s my take.

Sonic is in brawl you can have them team up if you want

@@frostyblade8842 Yeah. But it's not the same as having them team up in a story setting with cutscenes where you actually see them interact with each other.

To be fair, I think the fact he was approved late into the development of the game might have had something to do with that.

@@numebernode I still wish they didn't tease us with a possible team up in Sonic's reveal trailer.

@@BigHailFan they totally teased it, Mario and Sonic are both running around in one of the jungle SSE levels in Sonic's reveal trailer.

Nope. That one "awesome" cutscene was just it. There isn't any other besides particle effects going on in sky/space.

No, there is no interacting within the cutscenes

@@nuibaba280 Yhere are more cutscenes, no clue what they are like though

I saw the leaked cutscenes, there are no character interactions.

Guess what, WOL absolutely did NOT have anymore cutscenes. And RPG elements in a fighting game sounds like an awful idea. That turns the game into a pencil pushing mediocre strategy game that you can cheese or get horrifically frustrated at. And spirits don't give you new abilities, they give you stats. That's it. It's a terrible direction to take a fighting game. It takes away skill and wit and makes it "boom, got the thing, now you win or die."

So long as it’s not waifu chronicles shulk beats rex any day

Well you're gonna live a very incomplete life then

@@TheWeedIsland unfortunately.....T_T

lmao your life is never being completed

I also had that thought, actuall. , shows how original that thinking is.

AshnSilvercorp Big does not equal good. Subspace was good and cool, especially the cutscenes, but the platforming was fairly dull. It was fun, but fighting generic enemies and going to generic lands isn’t really that good. The platforming is also pretty shit.

It's because "Brawl is the worst one". That's every comment in here summarized in one sentence.

It's "literally the biggest thing ever" but also very, very poorly done. Strip the cutscenes away and all you're left with is Melee's Adventure mode in generic environments against generic enemies that lasts much longer than it should and plays like a slog. Heck, *include* the cutscenes if you want and while they're cool and all, they barely tell a story when put together.

@@FamilyTeamGaming I can elaborate. The cutscenes were definitely there just to look cool, but that is pretty much how most collections of video game cutscenes work. (I agree with you but that was I point that I personally was on the other side of) Melee's Adventure mode was definitely quite boring and repititive. Yes, there is a way to make that work (Overwatch, Paladins, TF2, Halo, Call Of Duty, etc.) but Brawl did not suceed in these areas. Which was a very important element of the mode. Sakurai himself even stated that he wouldn't be making too many cutscenes because people would just upload them to youtube. Who would want to waste months of work on something that will just be opened to the public for free?

@@xdiamondx5721 That's a bad mentality to hold. The cutscenes being online isn't exactly going to substitute the experience, so at worst it'll do nothing and it's most likely just going to draw attention to the game.

@FlyingDead L thats what im super excited about

I've been playing the SSM leak and WoL is balls to the walls AMAZING

@@BromoDragoonFly how have you been playing it?

It wasn't