The Epilogue of Adventure | Sonic Heroes 

I didn't get the Chaotix as a kid, but now I find "welp, gotta keep the lights on in this dump" to be the most compelling motivation of all four teams.

I say that Sonic having “too many characters” is a good thing, because you know what they say, THE MORE THE MERRIER!

"people ask where the Babylon Rogues are" don't do that to me. Don't remind me of our loss

Omochao in SA2: actually helpful, optional to listen to, not even obnoxious, doesn’t deserve the abuse Omochao in SH: *omochao with a vengeance*

Sonic Heroes isn't babyish. Everything we have gotten since Colours is babyish. Would rather have "let's show that creep the true superpower of teamwork" over "man up tails" or "baldy McNosehair" or "best boss beating ever"

"Follow me" is themed for every member of Team rose actually! The song is talking about their passions for what they are chasing in the story. Amy - for sonic Cream - for cheese Big - for froggy

Probably the best thing to come out of this game was the union of Team Dark. Their odd pairing from the beginning developed from a union of convenience where their personal goals was the important focus: Rouge seeking Eggman treasure, Omega wanting revenge and Shadow wanting answers; to a group dynamic that would last through the many face lifts Sega would try to put the Sonic games through. I feel they truly showed their best in Sonic 06 (yes I’m serious) where they came to the realization that they will always face the odds together and that they trust one another more than anyone else (EVEN the likes of Sonic) and that the comics delved into this especially in the Shadow arc in Sonic Universe. It certainly helps counter off the “loner” vibe Shadow was being forced with that at times I roll my eyes at. Should he ever look for any help he always knows who to look to, and vice versa. I’m mostly happy that Sonic Team still attempts to keep this dynamic a thing even with the likes of Sonic Forces in Episode Shadow.

I think "Sonic Heroes" is a way of distinguishing Metal Sonic from Meatbag Sonic. After all, the letter was written by Metal. By the way, as a kid I was REALLY impressed by Eggman printing a movie. More than robots or flying cars.

I moreso consider Sonic Battle to be the end of the Adventure era. The story feels just like an Adventure game.

im glad im not the only one who noticed shadows slight nods agreeing with rouge's rant XD like "you tell em ma!"

Thank you for addressing the overreactions to the control. I've been trying to explain for years that you have free reign to control the right character depending on the section, but it seems the average person would rather use Sonic everywhere and blame it on the game when they die. Anyway great video!

>Has a strong love for the Adventure Era Sonic games >Also loves the Ratchet and Clank series >Has a Kingdom Hearts poster I can't believe I didn't discover your channel earlier. Consider me subscribed.

I've always considered "What I'm Made Of" to be Metal Sonic's theme song.

This might only be me and very few others, but out of the three voice actors, two actually sound how sonic looks, and the other is Roger Craig Smith.

Can we get sonic back at McDonald's? 😂

“The too many characters, sonic’s stupid friends retort can eat shit and die. In that order.” That fucking earned my subscription, because finally someone said what I always felt deep down outloud. Hell yeah I miss the Babylon Rogues

Sonic Heroes is where I considered the peak of the OG cast's performances. In fact looking back I think all of them are the definitive versions. Minus William Corkery as Tails (still hate that voice) I liked everyone else. While I do prefer some later voices like Rouge's current VA and Cream's for that matter and even Mike Pollock as Eggman (he's practically the character now), everyone else I found the best version of themselves. It's all the more reason I consider the Drummond era the best era of Sonic, especially in regards to the relevancy of the cast. Each game had the cast act proactively and were playable just about every game, once the 4kids VAs came their playability dwindled with every game after Sonic 2006 either being reduced to spin-offs or one and off proactivity. (or generally flanderizing them in some cases) It's painful to say Chronicles was the last game that had any of them do anything as a main cast that isn't Black Knight where they play parts of characters in King Arthur's story or 2006 which was a complete mess (other problems than just glitches). The only game I don't like in this era is Sonic Battle because of the repetitive combat and how it flanderizes the cast, especially Amy and Knuckles. Loved your analogy on how every character doesn't have to be a Shadow to be likable, its why I enjoy some of the simpler characters like Team Sonic and Rose. I enjoy the parallel of Amy/Cream to Sonic/Tails, I just wish this could've been used more rather than the later games neglecting Cream. From a technical standpoint while Heroes as a lot of problems I can't bring myself to dislike it. There are some good ideas here that I feel could've been expanded on in future games. I loved the gameplay, running through loops in speed segments and the general mobility of speed characters.. I just wish the Fly character had better control and didn't stiffly fall when their meter runs out (which I feel it does too fast) not to mention how slow they are and the fact they have to carry everyone while in motion. In terms of the Speed characters being too slippery complaint, I don't agree with entirely. In fact I mainly think it just applies to Sonic and Shadow, Amy and Espio control just fine, granted this could be because of their slower speed, but I feed they don't get anywhere near the acceleration as the other two. Its why I consider Amy and Espio the superior speed types among other reasons. However I feel this is only the case when coming across steep or crowded platforming segments, otherwise you are given plenty of room to run around or change formations before proceeding further (though I do wish you could change in mid air at times) With your bonus stage complaint I actually don't mind them like most people. All you have to do is switch to the power formation and it becomes less of a hassle to deal with the stiff control. The power type is less prone to getting stuck up walls, and using Team Rose just makes it better because their stages are the shortest. I really enjoyed your analysis over that Team Sonic vs Team Rose scene I couldn't have said it better myself, its partially why Amy is my favorite character and I think people grossly exaggerate that scene. I can see why people will find her pursuit of Sonic annoying, but people only ever focus on that one scene as a highlight to her "abusive behavior" when really I think its poor context. While it could be argued Amy does so to gain respect from the experience she's gained, it also makes sense because Team Rose thought Sonic had taken Chocola and Froggy, even Big and Cream don't object to fighting them and question them. That one scene also shouldn't invalidate Amy's interactions with her teammates or her general sass through the rest of the game. I also could make the argument that for the Speed character's slipperiness when platforming if used just right their floaty jumps (especially after movement) can help in some situations as holding down the jump button will allow them to stay in the air for a bit, then use the tornado for quick boost and hopefully land a homing attack safely across obstacles (doesn't work for Espio though) or in Amy's case straight up hover across gaps. (very useful if situational and her tornado grants extra air time)

57:19 A *true man's* battle cry. Okay, more seriously now, watching this does make me wish I was able to truly experience this game when I was younger. I had the chance, but the disc I got was already scratched up and couldn't continue after the character select (assuming it would even make it to it), and we didn't remember which store we got it from, so we couldn't just go back to that same one.

7:45 That little explosion made my day

Sonic heroes was honestly good but some people just really didn’t appreciate it at that time at least.

I’m so upset we never get to see metal sonic tapped into again. Sure he’s in generations but that didn’t feel grand. I’ve always loved rival battles in all of my favorite forms of media. And metal sonic is my all time favorite sonic villain for the rival reason. Great video though. I’m glad I ain’t the only one that likes sonic heroes.

I love how you baited the "True Ending" for this video series

This was my first 3d sonic game and one of my favourite games as a kid. I was genuinely surprised to find out it wasn't very well liked among fans. This was an awesome review and it helped me remember everything I loved about the game as a kid, while showing me a critical side to it that child me wasn't smart enough to pick up on

54:55 I miss when Shadow had more emotions than brooding and angsty in the 4kids era and "Grr I hate friendship" in the modern era.

Not done with the video quite yet but coming off of TGC's harsh thrasing of the game, I'm loving the positive vibes in this so far! One thing to mention relating to the combat, though: I found myself enjoying the game FAR more once I started mixing in the speed characters' Roll/Slide/Rocket Accel into the mix. Using the roll and simply ramming into one or two simple Egg Pawn enemies lets you defeat them faster than a homing attack while still carrying far more speed forward than the Power characters' punch, and Rocket Acceling creates the same Wind effect that the Blue Tornado does only its activated far faster and can hit multiple foes at once. These moves are far more unwieldly to use but are also far faster if you learn to master them, its fantastic risk/reward stuff that I also feel applies to the Power character's attacks. The Fire Dunk is accurate and keeps you safe in the air but can only be used twice and is rather slow, while the ground punches hit fast and hard but put you RIGHT in the middle of danger and can be unwieldly to aim. This game gets far too much flack for even having combat to begin with when it handles combat in such a perfectly Sonic-y way. Its similar to Black Knight where its all about constantly being on the move and thinking quickly far more than it is about memorizing button combos or creating large strings or whatever. It's simple and snappy.

The thing I like about Heroes is that it doesnt try to be funny every five seconds to make the stupid 5 year olds laugh, but decides to be campy and corny that'll be "cringy" but in a cute way. It's less like Sonic Colors trying so hard to be funny that it kills the basic plot (to the point where you have to boast that the writers of *Happy Tree Friends* of all shows wrote the comedy which explains why it's not funny at all) and more like an homage ot sorts to cheesy 90s cartoons in a way. I prefer the more serious story telling over this, but I won't deny that Heroes makes me smile *a lot.* Heroes was always an overlooked gem to me. It may have faults, but it's a very fun game that feels great to master, even if it's a bit on the slippery side. It and SA2 were two of three Sonic games I bothered trying to A-Rank so that speaks volumes

52:08 “I won’t go down that easy!” * Robotnik then proceeds to go down very easily

Man, I absolutely love Team Chaotix, I wish they were actually used and seen together in the newer games.

This game was made in a generation where shoehorning combat was a platformer staple. However Heroes is in my opinion, the only game to get this stereotype right. Pac Man World 3, Ty the Tasmanian Tiger and suchlike have enemy health bars and combos for the sake of it. Button bashing is the only way through, and it quickly becomes monotonous. Sonic Heroes has 3 distinct playstyles on the fly, all of which excel at different enemies. Each playstyle can completely allievate the health bar on an enemy, meaning you should only worry about the health bars if enemies are designed to by tanks, or if you're simply attacking with the wrong formation/character.

I've always been partial to Jason Griffith as Sonic. Ryan Drummond's still great though!

57:18 The sound that comes out of my mouth when i fully a- ranked both Adventure 1 and 2, and then realising this game exists

"All's well that ends well, right?" That got me good.

Annnnd I've finished the video! Let me tell you man. My thoughts when it comes to Heroes and really... most of Sonic's late 6th Gen run has always been mixed and blurry. I didn't even play Heroes till a few years ago, and I still haven't played Shadow the Hedgehog. So despite my love for the Adventure Era, its weird to think that I wasn't there during the period where it started to sloooowly fade out. In my eyes, the Adventure Era did live long past games like SA2 or even 06. But the spirit of the main two Adventure games definitely took a turn with Heroes. And despite that, I've never had any ill will with the game. It still feels like a Sonic game (same can't be said for many other certain games *cough*), and for that reason I don't hold a ton of grudge to it. That and I enjoyed most of the game despite its differences and a few of its biggest negatives. Probably the game with the most neutral feeling from me as a whole of the series.

It would make sense for Shadow to survive his fall. He is immortal, immune to bullets, diseases and old age, and quite the power house. But still having memory loss from sustaining physical trauma creates a a nice little ceiling we can all respect.

I really miss playing as other characters. I especially miss Whacking people with my giant Hammer 😢 But yeah, bugs aside, Sonic Heroes is my favorite Sonic game, it was beautiful to look at, had super memorable stages, and let me play as Amy Rouge and Espio lol

I agree with so much here. For my problems with Heroes, it has a lot going for it. The gameplay, while different, is enjoyable and intuitive with depth to the mechanics. I love the look of all the levels and how they add to the world. The soundtrack is still legendary, and I really enjoy a lot of the character interactions within each team; Team Chaotix are my favorite characters in the game. And the English voice actors really stepped up their game here, making for a great sendoff to them (even though they shouldn't have been sent off in the first place, god dammit). But that said, I do have severe problems with Heroes. I still can't forgive the game for how loosey-goosey it plays with the characters. Heroes has a bad tendency to divorce characters from their context or even fundamental characters, and treat them like cardboard cutouts. Knuckles' entire life purpose and character-defining duty is just thrown out the window with no explanation. And his sudden friendship with Sonic, while I enjoyed it for what it was, felt too sudden. Similar with Rouge. I think her opening up to and working with others more post-SA2 makes a lot of sense. But as it's done in Heroes where she's suddenly all teamwork-minded feels way too abrupt. Shadow's amnesia feels like a giant non-sequitur to his arc from SA2 that totally derails his character. I want Shadow to be brought back as I think he adds a lot to the cast, but not like this, as it feels so haphazard and disrespectful. His bond with Team Dark is great, but that doesn't require putting a giant roadblock in his character by having him forget all of the meaningful stuff in SA2. Tails, while not too bad, feels like he's regressed back to the tag-along sidekick before his development. He really doesn't take charge or plan their next move like he did in SA2. Amy, while I love that she's more brave and headstrong post-SA2, again, it feels too haphazard. As now she suddenly has superpowers like the rest of the characters without explanation, even though it's already been established she is more grounded in her capabilities. And also her crush on Sonic was taken way too far, to the point of literally assaulting him, demanding he marry her. I really don't like that. The whole structure of the game where each team goes through the same locations with the same bosses in the same orders really makes the whole story feel super cheap and artificial, in a way that I think fundamentally undermines the whole experience. The worst part of the story to me though, are the Team battles. Most of the cutscenes and reasons for them fighting are so-beyond contrived and cringy that they're just a flat-out insult to the characters themselves. Especially with Sonic vs Dark, where what should be a shocked, but peaceful reunion is instead forced to be a poorly-justified dick-measuring contest, with dialogue trying to reason with them awkwardly placed into the fight itself. The only Team battle cutscene I thought was good was Rose vs Chaotix where the context was there, and the misunderstanding made sense. And also it was really funny. My issue with Heroes' story isn't that it's more simple. It's that it's just plain bad, and honestly an insult to what came before. Treating its characters like cheap plastic toys of themselves, where nothing has to matter (in spite of Maekawa's attempts to salvage what he could in this game). All because Heroes was decided to be a frankly cynical attempt to "broaden the appeal" of the series. Something which has historically meant bad news for game franchises (Resident Evil 5 & 6, Halo 4 & 5, every Silent Hill after 4). I really appreciate that you took the time to highlight everything this game does right, as I do think Heroes is underappreciated in a lot of ways. But at the same time, I think it has to be said just how much damage this game did to the Sonic characters and stories, and how it negatively influenced future games (Shadow's amnesia, and setting the precedent of cardboard cutout characters, and more or less ignoring prior games' events or developments). Sorry for the comment essay, but great video nonetheless, and I really look forward to your future projects! :)

Sonic Heroes was always more of a mixed bag for me, even back when I first played it in 2004. I loved it as a kid but as I got older and noticed the glitches and just how slippery the speed characters felt, it really did detract some points from the game. But I would never say that the game was complete trash, absolutely not. I really did like that this game tried something different with it's gameplay even if it didn't make sense (Cue Cream being able to hold Amy and Big when she must weigh like what? 30-40 lbs? LOL). But yeah, silliness aside, the gameplay was quite engaging though I am glad I'm not the only who noticed the slippery controls of the speed characters and how this game was the beginning of Sonic never feeling precise like he did in the Adventure games and it's a shame because his movement in those games was perfect and still is today in my honest opinion. Though I find it funny that I'm not the only one who really abused the flying character, seriously they were so overpowered and used in a petty way, you could mash through certain bosses and sections of certain levels with quite ease when used effectively lol. I also didn't mind them toning down a bit in the theme and making things more light-hearted. The level design totally was harkening back to the classic genesis days and I though the translation worked quite well. As far as Shadow went, I'm torn with him. I do think that he should've stayed dead just to preserve his legacy but on the other hand, I was happy to see him in this game when I first played the game and while clone thing still annoys me because it really didn't go anywhere (excluding Shadow the Hedgehog's solo game for obvious reasons...), it just felt like a copout to say the character could never truly die. But I do agree that his portrayal in this game was not edgy and was still somewhat thoughtful. I had no idea about the Japanese script so thank you for including that because after seeing it, it makes Shadow's premise a lot better and with better reasoning. I also don't mind that you included a section about your thoughts on the voice acting, never apologize for that because in games like this that are character heavy, voice acting is important. That said I agree with everything you said about the actors. The Dreamcast/Adventure-era actors were just... So special. Everyone was at their best in this game (excluding Tails... no hate towards his actor, it just didn't sound that good imo). I was not aware that Ryan Drummond is still active and is passionate about Sonic enough to interact with fans, that's quite cool to see. He was truly the best voice for Sonic and 15+ years later and I still feel the same. Sonic right after Pokemon was the franchise that showed me that voice acting can really make or break a character so it's always nice to hear people talk about this kind of stuff. Agree 100% with the music. True it's not as bombastic as Sonic Adventure or stylish as Sonic Adventure 2's but it was still great and I find myself listening to the music every now and then. Definitely love the themes for Mystic Mansion, Ocean Palace, Rail Canyon, and Final Fortress. The only thing I wish that Sonic Heroes had was an ice level but then again, with the slippery speed physics, that probably would've been more frustrating to deal with lol. Really even though the game was a bit rough in some areas, I'm still glad it exists. I would love to see a Sonic Heroes 2 that brought in more teams (Hell I'd love to play as Team Hooligan lol) but as it stands, Sonic Heroes is just more of a neutral game. Not amazing but not bad neither. It's enjoyable when in the right mood to play and it does feel like it was a nice send but bittersweet send off from the console era of Adventure before the descent happened... But yeah, great video and also, beautiful use of the "Egg Rocket Zone" theme, I'm so glad to see more people like that theme, it's just so freaking good haha.

Sonic Heroes was my first 3D Sonic title. Your retrospective on it gave me some new insight into one of my favorite games of all time. Thanks and great video, TheBlackHoodedGamed

Just finished binge watching all 3 videos. Thank you for these. It made me realise what made me a fan of Sonic to begin with

I *never* caught those continuity notes and I love those so much.

I think the Dream-Cast has excellently chosen voices for the Sonic characters, but I still prefer the 4kids cast, in particular Jason Griffith's more emotional take on Sonic and intense version of Shadow, and Lisa Ortiz's Amy is the most accurate take on the character in my opinion.

My favorite team was always Team ?????????

I really loved the section about the voice cast. The characters are really the thing that keeps me coming back to Sonic, and I just adore all the actors behind them--they always bring such personality. I've always favored the 4Kids cast myself; Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity is, in my opinion, the best performance they've ever put on. Not in cutscenes, but the gameplay dialogue just captures them so well, from writing to acting. The Adventure cast is truly special, and Sonic Heroes being one of my first Sonic games was truly a blessing just because of how well these characters are portrayed. With all its flaws (and I definitely had a lower opinion of it when I was younger, even), if I hadn't been exposed to those twelve characters, I wouldn't have gotten so into the series.

Aesthetically, this is my favourite 3-D Sonic game. It somehow is both a throwback to the past and also new, vibrant, and unique.

26:07 Shadow was so ahead of his time. Back in 2003/2004 he was already d a b b i n g .

my favorite part abut sonic heroes is that if you get team rose onto big the cat's shoulders and go into first person mode you can see directly up their skirts

Thanks for making these videos. They put what I had been thinking for years into words perfectly. I thought that I didn't really like Sonic anymore and that I was just holding on to distant memories that held no value. But watching these has made me go back to these games again for the first time in years. It's like uncovering a photo album of a vacation with your family that you thought you had only dreamed about. I miss this series, and I wish that the internet would stop peeing on its grave. Thank you for giving it the respect it deserves.

This game had my childhood on lock. I remember refusing to go outside to a block party in order to try beating this game.

Ridley! Wins! Ridley : 57:20

42:14 Love that line!! Team chaotix is one of my favorite sonic characters!

After watching multiple reviews/retrospectives that bashed the game or made it sound mediocre at best, this is definitely a breath of fresh air! I definitely enjoyed this review/retrospective!

I checked this channel over and over again for new content but the wait was worth it!!! Keep up the great work!!!

Sonic Heroes was my very first Sonic game! Way back then, I thought the game was just great and didn't really think anything much more of that. Your analysis video made me realize how glitchy, unfair and sometimes tedious some aspects of the game can be... but it also made me realize a lot of stuff I never noticed as a kid, like the character interactions and the story. You really made me appreciate the game on a whole new level and I might actually replay the game sometime soon (I'll try to stay clear from the PC version ^^) I also think that Ryan Drummond captured Sonic's additude the best and it's a shame the entire cast got replaced by the 4kids dub :/ Great video and keep the good work!

57:18 This my friends, is the first recorded occurrence of the voice of God itself.

I found my old save for this game on my ps2 and somehow had played for 70 hours without beating any of the stories or even getting close lol

Outstanding documentary, witty editing and it is extremely entertaining! Loved your perspective and now I know a lot more about this game that I've always liked but never felt it was that good or interesting outside of the soundtrack. Great stuff!

you know i wasnt ready for a one hour sonic heroes video when i saw it on my recommended, but i really enjoyed it

26:08 Wait, City Escape won awards in iconography? Why didn't I know about that piece of Sonic history?

6:13 "Seriously, the 'too many characters/Sonic's stupid friends' retort can go eat shit AND die. _In_ that order." Aaand, like- 7:45 It's subtle, but that explosion edit killed me- 😂🤙 10:35 "All three are drastically different, each with their own shortcomings. But they all have one goal as a priority. To kick ass and pay rent."

The PS2 version was the one I had way back when, and yes, on my first playthrough I suffered some deaths that left me sitting there like "????????????????????"

34:36 Gosh, that scene really is excellent. Really fun interactions and a funny misunderstanding. Great video, friend!!!

Are we just not gonna talk about the bitchin bat cry he did at 57:18?? Had me crackin up for a long while!

I loved Playing as Team Chaotix as a kid. Everything from their color palettes to their interactions to their moves just made them so cool to me

Hey, I just want to say that while I don't have the time to fully watch and appreciate this video at the moment, I really admire your script work and pace in your edits! You've clearly spent a lot of time structuring and refining what you'll be saying, or at least thinking about it a decent amount, and are making your points clear through simple and strong cuts. I know that may sound kind of random but I see so many small channels that try to take on the similar "video essay" style of some larger critics and it often comes across sloppy or forced. The tone set in this video of sincere, informative discussion that's occasionally laced with light-hearted small quips is very appealing to me and I'd like to watch more when I get the time. You seem very passionate about what you're saying without coming off as obnoxious or cocky which is really nice. Uh yeah I know that's probably a weird comment to get but whatever, just wanted to say I enjoy what I'm seeing! Keep up the good work.

In my humble opinion, I think one of best things about Sonic Heroes is that's just good dumb fun. Everything fits together well enough that you can pop it in and just enjoy yourself. It doesn't take itself seriously, and is goofy without being childish. A game doesn't need to be perfect to enjoy it.

Generally speaking, I think that Adventure-Heroes cast are all great fits for the characters they play. But I do have a preference for Jason when it comes to Sonic.

God its so cathartic to hear somebody say that just because Sonic's concept is "silly" it can't tell a serious story. Even better hearing that Batman and Spider-Man comparison.

53:18 Makes the theme of Sonic Forces Fist Bump very ironic to how he was portrayed in that game

Sonic Heroes is a GOAT and I won’t hear otherwise

It really bothers me how people treat SA1 and 2 as the holy grail of old 3D sonic games but lump in heroes with Shadow and 06 as "Just another bad one". I think if Heroes ever got the chance for a sequel you could make something amazing. You have the joy of multiple playable characters and gameplay styles without stretching them too thin or making them too different from one another. -Give each team a few more unique abilities -Actually give them different levels to travel through from each other -More teams to play with (babylons, silver blaze and metal etc.) -Tighten up the control -Keep the level design similar as it's one of it's best design elements of the game (imo) Boom Heroes 2 would be great. I do have quiet a bit of bias for this game as it's the first 3D sonic I played at a young age but I genuinely believe it's an underrated gem of the franchise that did alot right and deserves another chance.

Im glad people still talk about this game... This made my childhood :)

While Sonic Adventure 2 is the most beloved Sonic game, Heroes is probably my favorite childhood game, because I enjoyed it enough that I didn't mind the fact that it was among the few games I had at the time.

You know everyone keeps talking about Knuckles and Angel Island, but I think that was actually retconned in SA2 with the temple area the Master Emerald is kept in. Add in Rogue talking about needing to LOOK for the Master Emerald in this game even though it's supposed to always be on Angel Island, I think Knuckles has actually just hidden it away somewhere and Angel Island has either been left to fall or retconned out of existence.

1:22:04 True words. Sure the flaws of a game can exist in a variety of ways, and there is room for criticism (people could be throwing out more constructive criticism, I'm just saying), how a person plays a game and understands it is paramount to how they experience the game. One could argue that this game leans way too heavily in "100% to appreciate it" territory. However, without that 100%, what's going to motivate the player to use all of the team formations to their strengths, as well as collecting all of those power cores? That's something that the game does very well in that regard, if you ask me.

As someone who still unironically loves the Shadow the Hedgehog game I can't wait for you to do a video on it, even if you do tear it to shreds.

@53:44-.-I like to imagine Eggman made do on his promise during the events of sonic forces.

18:33 Right here it is very important to mention Sonic's basic gameplay design. The point isn't to just go fast. The point is to go fast through the obstacles laid before you as fast as possible. The faster you beat the enemies, the faster you can progress, and the more points you earn. The change in the point combo system from SA2 shows this too. No longer are your combo points cashed in the monent you touch the ground, rather a timer is started which resets with each defeated enemy, encouraging the player to combo together multiple seperate enemy encounters as quickly as they can.

"We're SONIC HEROES!" "WOULD YOU CUT THAT OUT!?!"

Ive barely started the video but holy shit, *thank you* for 5:45 to 6:45. Your Adventure retrospectives already blew my socks off, but now I'm overjoyed that you took a minute to put this misunderstood but crucial aspect of the series into words. For that minute alone, you've earned a new subscriber. -also did the Tornado always explode offscreen at --7:46-- or did you edit that in? i literally cant tell lmao-

I just watched all three Adventure era videos, now I'm watching your older ones. I literally feel anticipation for the next one and can't believe I may have to wait several months. Take your time, make the best video you can. You're doing a wonderful and I can't wait to see/hear more.

It's here, it's here... we've got the Sonic Heroes video.

Just watched the three of these back to back to back. You made a fantastic series here about 3 of my favorite sonic games.

I love this. I like video essays like these, they're just chill and I enjoy putting my full attention into it. Thank you!

Team Dark reminds me of Androids 16, 17, 18.

The passion of your speech about the game that made me love videogames back then,when I was a kid, makes me feel happy :’)

Not just my first Sonic game but one of my first games ever. The memories man.

Cream is my favorite character because she is a ‘hidden badass’

I love Heroes. This was my intro to Sonic, and all those dialogue exchanges were awesome, music and worlds and sense of speed wowed me, and references to find out more about made that whole Gamecube age of Sonic so special to me.

5:45 - 6:32 This is hands down the greatest rebuttal to the "Get rid of Sonic's stinky friends" argument there has ever been. Someone just needs to send that snippet of this video to Sega to prove to them that there are fans out there who DON'T want to always play as Sonic, and want to see their favourite Sonic characters being un-flanderized and used to their full potential again... If Sega even care!

Thanks for doing this video on sonic heroes. The points you made about it being good for good and old fans really rung true for my personal experience. I've been a long time fan of sonic, and I also have a little sister. It just so happened that sonic heroes came out at a time where she was just starting to be able to play video games herself. She still struggled with anything harder than team Rose, but we spent many hours shoulder-to-shoulder, with her watching me beat the game and cheering me on. The two of us could recite every cutscene by heart, and we even knew all the lyrics to a few of the songs too. Because of this, even though sonic heroes isn't my favorite sonic game (SA2B is my fav, cliche as it is) it has a really personal and warm nostalgic feeling to me, and my sister and I often end up complaining about how often people hate on this game when the topic of sonic comes up. What a great trip down memory lane ^u^

I grew up with the 4Kids voice cast. I love Jason Griffith as Sonic. But I can’t deny that Ryan Drummond did a really fine job voicing Sonic.

i actually watched this entire video. you got me in the mood to play SA2B or Sonic Heroes again, but the video as a whole was really interesting and enlightening and even taught me a couple things i didn't know as I played Sonic Heroes when i was much younger.

Ok I had this long ass bible I was about to post, but let's just keep it simple. Thank you for your videos on the adventure games (& Heroes). The internet ridiculing the whole franchise had me distancing myself from it since 2009 out of fear of ridicule, and your videos helped me to wake the fuck up and actually accept that the games I grew up with were good ass games and should not be embarrassed for singing their praises. Bless your soul.

I think you forgot about the fly group have there own secondary attacks if there speed and power is caught an teleport away or die of cliff in team rival battles like ~ Tails: *throw dummy rings* Rouge: *throw bombs* Charmy: *stinger attack* Cream: *CHEESE THE ONE PUNCH LEVEL CHAO ATTACK*

"Sonic Heroes: The Epilogue of Adventure" Don't you mean...Shadow the Hedgehog?

1:06:53 Could Vector be listening to their own theme song?

This is and always will be my favorite Videogame of all time and it was my first game ever 😭

Creams flying sound 25:18 just sounds like the spell casting from morrowind lol

'Bout time, you beautiful man.

Hey man, your video is great and well worth the time spent! It was insightful, personal and funny. Great job!