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So HEINRICH SCHLIEMANN WAS NOT THE LAST WHO FOUND TROY. NEED TO READ THE ILIAD AGAIN. I GOT A NEW PASSPORT & THE REAL I.D BUT @ 80 I AM THRU YRAVELING.

Just because a fabulous story is made of a real situation doesn't mean the situation never happened. Like the Hatfields & McCoys or recent things blown out of proportion. A rich amazing city in ancient days could mean something the size of a developed county town in the Midwest of USA vs the huts & shanties of the regular Bronze Age villages.

Have we achieved anything worthy of being studied in 1000 years!?

Internet in itself is probably the biggest achievement and there are many more

arthur nas this is the whitest thing I’ve read all week

But what about mystery seed boxes from china?

Good Answer!!

What if some low life from Atlantis came through and jacked their package?? Like what if the Trojans didn't have a RING doorbell to catch the thief?? No one will ever know.... 😳

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Actually it's beware Greeks bearing gifts.

ha ha everybody with their own flimsy modern tribalisms attempting to justify them through a Minoan war that may or may not have happened.

yeah

Funny AF rite there now

Sounds like a lot of othodox, stale BS to me

Hehe. Did that and found your comment first

It isn't about the bible.

I'm honestly here because of the movie "Troy" and how such a great story had to come from at least some real history.

instead reading bedtime stories, my parents told me these kind of stories when i was a kid. maybe thats why im watching it😂

*sweat drops* this is why i hate social studies

@@boffeycn What has to the History with the religion?

ANTONIO FAMA read Strabo’s report on the conflict between locals in the 2nd century regarding the tomb of Akhillauos. The disagreement whether it was at the Achilleion or the Sigeion I believe.

Supposed tomb. Not only is it questionable the tomb existed but it's even more questionable Achilles existed. This is all based on a myth. Remember Achilles was supposedly son of zeus....enough said...

@@zarni000 he was not son of Zeus, he was the son of Thetis and a mortal king named Pileas

@@ektwrasxios first of all you need to replace "he was" with "he was said to be" as it's all mythology. Sea nymph or God of whatever who cares. You missed the point here.

I'm afraid this whole rats nest of fiction, apparently, is like looking for old west sites based on the movie the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. That old cemetery, I think its in Texas, I know Arch Stanton was from there and Blondie was from San Diego.

@Gerrit Peacock That's why it is called mythology (from the Greek word mythos for the story of the-people.

@Gerrit Peacock My view is that the Illiad is more what we today would call Historical Fiction. What we know of for sure, thanks to the latest finds is that during the Bronze Age Collapse a magnificent city was destroyed in a war. That collapse ushered in a dark age where even literacy was lost for centuries.

Names truly echo through the halls of eternity. 👍

@@nikosgrigorakos from the sound of your last name.... I'm going to guess you descend from the Mediterranean area... possibly... Greece? Macedonia???

@@TheLittledikkins Perhaps not unlike Shakespeare's works 'Julius Caesar' or 'Anthony and Cleopatra'. Historical fiction that is based on older accounts, and that repopularized already known stories. This, in my eyes, is most likely.

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And don't forget the Georgia Republic are ancient Greeks.

Ok I guess you know more than the experts....

@George Washington lmao I thought you were joking....would be a funny joke...but seeing subsequent comments I laughed even harder.

@Jeremy Kirkpatrick dont you know? Jesus was Serbian as well...

Liz Tukenmez Turkey was Greek at the time of Troy. Turks didn't arrive yet

@C.H.A.D Bravo Actually Turks entered Anatolia in 1071 with the Battle of Manzikert and they have been there ever since. However at the time there were many other ethnic and religious groups in the region including the Byzantine Empire.

chill out, guys. The dude just said, "Troy is in Turkey". He didn't mention anything about Troy's History. I think everyone knows that Troy has nothing to do with the Turkish History or Culture.

Greeks had conquered that part of Turkey.

@@ArjanTV hahahahaha

Yes .... but elsewhere

I think so too. Greek myths do have truth in them. Many of them may be based on historical events. Writing didn't really exist at that time - thus, they were transferred orally, which has definitely changed the story. I do believe that the Trojan War happened, and it happened in Troy (in response to ioannis mansola), but not in the way we imagine it.

At some point 1,000 ships sailed to a single war. A place to where 1,000 ships were required to conquer a people. Thats certain. As we have accounts of such great armies through out history. Inspiring the iliad? Possible. The greeks wrote many tales of their gods. Same as we do with our religions today.

Historical point = Homer in the Iliad and the Odyssey speaks only of Danaans, Achaeans, Argians and not of Greeks. The Hellenes (tribe of Southern Thessaly also called Argos Pelasgians), at his time, did not constitute yet a people or a Nation (Thucydides I,3). He affirms in the Iliad that "Zeus is Pelasgians and dodonean" (XVI,234). Precisely these Pelasgians (🇦🇱) were considered by all the ancient Greek authors as "the first inhabitants of Greece" before "The arrival of the Hellenes (🇬🇷)"! Another word that was misunderstood or glossed over. Indeed the Greeks arrived from somewhere because they were not indigenous. As they did not come from the North ( one wanted to make us believe the opposite), they could only be foreigners coming from elsewhere. It is this elsewhere which is difficult to define very precisely. But the legends, which are only embellished, idealized or metaphorized historical facts, give us some precious indications on the first foreign ethnic groups having occupied the country of the Pelasgians: the Danaans (Egyptians from whom the Dorians descend), the Cadmeans (Phoenicians) and the Pelopides (Assyrians). Among the peoples of archaic Greece the Ionians, Aeolians and Arcadians were descendants of the Pelasgians, indigenous populations conquered by the Hellenic invaders: they could claim to be indigenous populations. All the ancient authors, including Homer, Hesiod, Hecateus of Miletus, Acousilaos, Hellanicos, Herodotus, Thucydides or Ephorus, inform us succinctly but sufficiently to affirm that before the arrival of the Greeks the Pelasges (🇦🇱) occupied the country that was to become Greece. They also claim that these Pelasges were not Greeks but "Barbaros" i.e. not speaking Greek and, finally, that they LEGAVED TO THE GREEKS A LARGE PART OF THEIR CULTES AND DIVINE. Example: So, everyone has learned (at school etc ...) that Zeus was a Greek god, right? But why in the books of Homer (the basis of the bases!) we never see the so-called "Greek Zeus, Mycenaean Zeus or Zeus the Hellenic etc ... " Here is what Achilles (the greatest warrior of the Trojan War) tells us about Zeus = Achilles: - "Zeus, sovereign lord, O Dodonian prince, O you Pelasgic Zeus (🇦🇱), distant god who reigns over Dodona, in this harsh land of the Stool... " Source : Homer ( Iliad, XVI, 233/234 ) Achilles did not say " O you Zeus the Greek, O you Zeus the Mycenaean or O you Zeus the Hellenic etc ... " So why did they tell us that Zeus was a Greek? With this alone, we can see that modern historiography is not honest! Zeus = Zâ, Zani ( gheg ), Zê, Zeri ( Tosk ) Before securing power over the other gods, Zeus was the god of the luminous sky, of atmospheric phenomena (clouds, rain, wind, lightning, thunder). It was said of him "Zeus rains or Zeus thunders". With Homer and Hesiod, he acquired a preeminent role among the gods of Olympus and a place of choice in the mytological cosmogony. Some say that the name Zeus evokes the Sanskrit root "Dyaus" meaning "the day" (Latin Dies). However Homer states that "Zeus is Pelasgic 🇦🇱 and Dodonean" ( Iliad XVI,234). The oldest sanctuary, dedicated by the Pelasges to Zeus, is that of Dodone, in Thesprotia (ancient Pelasgia, called Epirus, the 5th century) . In Dodona was a sacred oak whose rustling leaves were interpreted by the oracle as the "VOICE" of Zeus. The attributes of Zeus are the Eagle, the Lightning and the Scepter. Moreover, lightning means "thunder", thus "noise" or "voice". Thus the name of Zeus can be explained by the Albanian "Zâ, Zani, the "voice", the verb". With the arrival of the Hellenes (🇬🇷) this oracle lost its importance to Delphi, the "Greek" sanctuary (of Apollo) par excellence. It should be noted that in Albania, God is called Zot (Zeus = Zojz = Zot), all religions combined. Moreover the expression "by Zeus" (who forgives) is always used there "për zotën". Porphyry (Life of Pythagoras) reports that Pythagoras used "Zan" to designate Zeus! ) This alone is enough to convince us that a great civilization, not Greek, existed WELL BEFORE THE ARRIVAL OF THE HELLENES (🇬🇷) Neibhur (FOUNDER OF THE MODERN SCHOOL OF ANCIENT HISTORY!): "The name Pelasgians was probably that of a nation and, in any case, THE GREEK EXPLANATIONS ON THIS SUBJECT ARE ABSURD!" Source: The History of Rome Volume I, p.507 It is the meaning of this famous word "ARRIVED" that the modern authors (majority) did not quite seize (or occulted). Everything has been said and its opposite on this subject. Until the discovery of the so-called Mycenaean tablets, "deciphered" by Ventris and Chadwick, the doubt remained in their minds! But as soon as these two scholars decreed that the Mycenaean linear B (in reality Pelasgians!) was of the old Greek, all rocked in favor of the thesis of the continuity of the two civilizations (Mycenaean and Greek) and this in spite of FOUR CENTURIES, I repeat "FOUR CENTURIES !!!! "of MAGISTRATIC SILENCE! It is this theory that Mathieu Aref dismantles with arguments to SUPPORT because nobody suspected that this Mycenaean (total invention of Schliemann, who is not even an archaeologist but a Businessman! ) was none other than ancient Pelasgians (opinion of the Ancient Authors!) from which is derived, in part, the ancient Greek. Moreover of other flagrant argument comes to corroborate this last thesis: According to Herodotus ( I,57- VIII, 44- VII,95) the Ionians were Pelasgians (🇦🇱) become Hellenes (🇬🇷) by adopting the Greek language! The ethnonym "Ion" derives from the Pelasgic 🇦🇱 "I onë" ( in Albanian, I jonë ) meaning "ours", that is, by extension, "the one who is ( or was ) part of our family, of our ethnic group" . The assertion of Herodotus, according to which the Athenians and the inhabitants of Attica were of Pelasgic origin, is, before, confirmed by Hecateus of Miletus and, later, by Hellanicos of Mytilèbe (Lesbos) and other ancient authors. Curiously Thucydides, whose chauvinism is not any more to be shown, affirms that Pelops (conqueror of Peloponnese) was a was a foreigner come from Asia (I, 5): the only time when it evokes the foreign origin of one of its a - Therefore, the ancestors of the present Albanians, the Pelasgians, lived during the prehistoric periods in most of the then known world, developing a very important civilization and building works of exceptional value". Source: Great Greek Encyclopedia (Athens, volume. XIX p.873) - "Pelasgians, very ancient people living during the prehistoric period in Greece, in the Archipelago, on the coasts of Asia Minor and Italy. It is generally considered that the ancient Illyrians, Thracians, Phrygians, Lydians, Etruscans, Epirotes (...) and Albanians of today are the main branches of the Pelasgians". Source : Petit journal Larousse (Paris, 1950, p.1599) Karl O.Müller ( is a German archaeologist and mythologist ) : - The more the intelligence will enter the history of Greece, the more the attention will return on the element Pelasgians sacrificed until now . (Prolegomena - 1825) "Will enter" "Pelasgians", "sacrificed"..

Very much so! My wife was not as impressed as my motorcycle.

Good for you. I certainly envy you, perhaps not going on the bike but having visited the sites.

@Jeremy Kirkpatrick lol

Historical point = Homer in the Iliad and the Odyssey speaks only of Danaans, Achaeans, Argians and not of Greeks. The Hellenes (tribe of Southern Thessaly also called Argos Pelasgians), at his time, did not constitute yet a people or a Nation (Thucydides I,3). He affirms in the Iliad that "Zeus is Pelasgians and dodonean" (XVI,234). Precisely these Pelasgians (🇦🇱) were considered by all the ancient Greek authors as "the first inhabitants of Greece" before "The arrival of the Hellenes (🇬🇷)"! Another word that was misunderstood or glossed over. Indeed the Greeks arrived from somewhere because they were not indigenous. As they did not come from the North ( one wanted to make us believe the opposite), they could only be foreigners coming from elsewhere. It is this elsewhere which is difficult to define very precisely. But the legends, which are only embellished, idealized or metaphorized historical facts, give us some precious indications on the first foreign ethnic groups having occupied the country of the Pelasgians: the Danaans (Egyptians from whom the Dorians descend), the Cadmeans (Phoenicians) and the Pelopides (Assyrians). Among the peoples of archaic Greece the Ionians, Aeolians and Arcadians were descendants of the Pelasgians, indigenous populations conquered by the Hellenic invaders: they could claim to be indigenous populations. All the ancient authors, including Homer, Hesiod, Hecateus of Miletus, Acousilaos, Hellanicos, Herodotus, Thucydides or Ephorus, inform us succinctly but sufficiently to affirm that before the arrival of the Greeks the Pelasges (🇦🇱) occupied the country that was to become Greece. They also claim that these Pelasges were not Greeks but "Barbaros" i.e. not speaking Greek and, finally, that they LEGAVED TO THE GREEKS A LARGE PART OF THEIR CULTES AND DIVINE. Example: So, everyone has learned (at school etc ...) that Zeus was a Greek god, right? But why in the books of Homer (the basis of the bases!) we never see the so-called "Greek Zeus, Mycenaean Zeus or Zeus the Hellenic etc ... " Here is what Achilles (the greatest warrior of the Trojan War) tells us about Zeus = Achilles: - "Zeus, sovereign lord, O Dodonian prince, O you Pelasgic Zeus (🇦🇱), distant god who reigns over Dodona, in this harsh land of the Stool... " Source : Homer ( Iliad, XVI, 233/234 ) Achilles did not say " O you Zeus the Greek, O you Zeus the Mycenaean or O you Zeus the Hellenic etc ... " So why did they tell us that Zeus was a Greek? With this alone, we can see that modern historiography is not honest! Zeus = Zâ, Zani ( gheg ), Zê, Zeri ( Tosk ) Before securing power over the other gods, Zeus was the god of the luminous sky, of atmospheric phenomena (clouds, rain, wind, lightning, thunder). It was said of him "Zeus rains or Zeus thunders". With Homer and Hesiod, he acquired a preeminent role among the gods of Olympus and a place of choice in the mytological cosmogony. Some say that the name Zeus evokes the Sanskrit root "Dyaus" meaning "the day" (Latin Dies). However Homer states that "Zeus is Pelasgic 🇦🇱 and Dodonean" ( Iliad XVI,234). The oldest sanctuary, dedicated by the Pelasges to Zeus, is that of Dodone, in Thesprotia (ancient Pelasgia, called Epirus, the 5th century) . In Dodona was a sacred oak whose rustling leaves were interpreted by the oracle as the "VOICE" of Zeus. The attributes of Zeus are the Eagle, the Lightning and the Scepter. Moreover, lightning means "thunder", thus "noise" or "voice". Thus the name of Zeus can be explained by the Albanian "Zâ, Zani, the "voice", the verb". With the arrival of the Hellenes (🇬🇷) this oracle lost its importance to Delphi, the "Greek" sanctuary (of Apollo) par excellence. It should be noted that in Albania, God is called Zot (Zeus = Zojz = Zot), all religions combined. Moreover the expression "by Zeus" (who forgives) is always used there "për zotën". Porphyry (Life of Pythagoras) reports that Pythagoras used "Zan" to designate Zeus! ) This alone is enough to convince us that a great civilization, not Greek, existed WELL BEFORE THE ARRIVAL OF THE HELLENES (🇬🇷) Neibhur (FOUNDER OF THE MODERN SCHOOL OF ANCIENT HISTORY!): "The name Pelasgians was probably that of a nation and, in any case, THE GREEK EXPLANATIONS ON THIS SUBJECT ARE ABSURD!" Source: The History of Rome Volume I, p.507 It is the meaning of this famous word "ARRIVED" that the modern authors (majority) did not quite seize (or occulted). Everything has been said and its opposite on this subject. Until the discovery of the so-called Mycenaean tablets, "deciphered" by Ventris and Chadwick, the doubt remained in their minds! But as soon as these two scholars decreed that the Mycenaean linear B (in reality Pelasgians!) was of the old Greek, all rocked in favor of the thesis of the continuity of the two civilizations (Mycenaean and Greek) and this in spite of FOUR CENTURIES, I repeat "FOUR CENTURIES !!!! "of MAGISTRATIC SILENCE! It is this theory that Mathieu Aref dismantles with arguments to SUPPORT because nobody suspected that this Mycenaean (total invention of Schliemann, who is not even an archaeologist but a Businessman! ) was none other than ancient Pelasgians (opinion of the Ancient Authors!) from which is derived, in part, the ancient Greek. Moreover of other flagrant argument comes to corroborate this last thesis: According to Herodotus ( I,57- VIII, 44- VII,95) the Ionians were Pelasgians (🇦🇱) become Hellenes (🇬🇷) by adopting the Greek language! The ethnonym "Ion" derives from the Pelasgic 🇦🇱 "I onë" ( in Albanian, I jonë ) meaning "ours", that is, by extension, "the one who is ( or was ) part of our family, of our ethnic group" . The assertion of Herodotus, according to which the Athenians and the inhabitants of Attica were of Pelasgic origin, is, before, confirmed by Hecateus of Miletus and, later, by Hellanicos of Mytilèbe (Lesbos) and other ancient authors. Curiously Thucydides, whose chauvinism is not any more to be shown, affirms that Pelops (conqueror of Peloponnese) was a was a foreigner come from Asia (I, 5): the only time when it evokes the foreign origin of one of its a - Therefore, the ancestors of the present Albanians, the Pelasgians, lived during the prehistoric periods in most of the then known world, developing a very important civilization and building works of exceptional value". Source: Great Greek Encyclopedia (Athens, volume. XIX p.873) - "Pelasgians, very ancient people living during the prehistoric period in Greece, in the Archipelago, on the coasts of Asia Minor and Italy. It is generally considered that the ancient Illyrians, Thracians, Phrygians, Lydians, Etruscans, Epirotes (...) and Albanians of today are the main branches of the Pelasgians". Source : Petit journal Larousse (Paris, 1950, p.1599) Karl O.Müller ( is a German archaeologist and mythologist ) : - The more the intelligence will enter the history of Greece, the more the attention will return on the element Pelasgians sacrificed until now . (Prolegomena - 1825) "Will enter" "Pelasgians", "sacrificed"..

How did Russia get it?

Pictures or it just Bovine Excrement!

Why is it in Russia

​@@christophershiels786 they took it was war booty.

These are a joy to watch. Myself, I watch and listen with a healthy dose of skepticism...👍

BTW, it's a shame about your irl friends not being interested..

I love listening to them as well. Good on you 🙏🙏🙏🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

Omg I know. And I left facebook a while back cuz u could see society just slowly losing their minds even more so. And I really have found myself turning to comments in RU-vid. Lol. I tf s the most socializing I get anymore. Lol. I love a good youtube community

@@amberinthebox4462 same! Facebook got really boring these days

Doh!

Absolutely.

Trojan is a sity in Bulgarien and the History is Made from Same Elite and is Not True !! The old Zivilisation are Traki and This are Bulgarisns !! Google it ... It is Not korrekt to Tell tings what is Not True !!! Spartakus , Orpfeus is Form Bulgarien to und This is Not True about Greeck Zivilisation... and Joghurt und many other things ....

@@mariablawatzky6103 I'd like to NOT have what you're on brother.

@@pOpCoRn0531 The Truth ist taff to be acceptet! Intelligenz ist to See the Fakt and Not to be ready to attack! I am Trakian ! And proud to be From Zivilisation like This ! Most englisch Talking People are Not ready to See the history and Sorry The Education Is Not to Talk 1 Language !Und read Book ONLY of This one !! 💖

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James Glen Lol doesn’t work

@@stephenmartin5766 It works for me on my android but not my iphone. I have no clue why.

😂😂😂😂

Interesting - there is a documentary about the year 536 AD where they talk about geopolitical consequences of the Krakatoa explosion (now believed to be multiple volcanoes, one in island and another in Brazil and other places as well). Funny that the Romans turn to christianity and stop coming to Ilium at around the same time. And this is also the time when the sea recedes and pestilence and disease rage like the rest of the world. Fascinating.

Another curious occurence which has occurred in my own lifetime is; northern Africa WAS NOT all Sahara desert when I was young. There was a thick band of green verdant land around the far north west of the continent......it was thick and the Sahara was.from central Africa TOWARD the west.......something happened there when I was little and suddenly within 15 yrs the dry sand went all the way to the western coast. It was catastrophic. 😲

The most difficult thing is calculating elevation changes from continental drifts and tectonic changes of the crusts of earth. But wAter leaves remarkable evidence. However. Of all the ancient cities. There are many uncovered underneath the oceans. This location would have as likely risen as those dropped. And the ocean dried up some what. But we have a strong study n belief the ocean was much higher back then. N that contradicts these other sunken cities of the period. 1,000 years is only about 12’ difference. You’d expect an ancient account of a massive land change and earth quake. Which there are a few but they dont completely unify. We may never know for certain for as far as i know. We have no way of tracking tectonic shifts from our past. Their changes and to what degrees of centuries around this period. Proving that the ocean was simply higher and close to this location is left to discovering the one simple thing. Proof of sea life. There would be ships or wildlife remnants. Only to yet be discovered to prove these considerations

That is why it is called pre-history, it was before they recorded everyday life and events.

This. Totally.

they did no such thing. They called it paeganism, and there were cults of people dedicated to serving specific paegan idols or gods in their own temples. Giaus Ceasar of the Julii, immediately upon marching into Rome was recorded as having patronized the Cult of Mars to ask for a sign of Mars' blessing that he name himself emperor.

The word "cult" has more than one definition. Cult today is a specific type of religious organization where one is not allowed to leave, and there is one leader whose word is law for all the members. The modern cult seeks to cut the member off from his family and former friends.

a cult is a relegion practice that difers from the mainstream practice, a cult of Athena like he was speaking is a branch of the main relegion dedicated exclusevly to athena, it was a cult inside the main religion of rome you had many of them

72Yonatan Very true. So scary these groups hide n isolate people to manipulate minds n lives.

haha well done

Sure it’s located in Croatia lol

@@Harosho but unfortunatelly no dragon fossils have been found... Only a strange humanoid half the size of a man... could the kings landians have been a city of dwarfs

Well the story of Game of Thrones is based on real history of War f the Roses. And those cities were real, the people were real, the deaths and all were real. So archaeologists me dig the ancient city of York and claim they found the starks and all, I wont be surprised. This implies there really was a city that went through a disgusting war and met its end, became a legend, and is now mistook for a mythical/fictional story. So the name of the city must be different, the happenings of the war must be different, but of course something similar happened in the real world.

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Bravo!

Iliad was created by homer!!

he is treating the Illiad a bit roughshot, the Illiad was not about of Troy, but about the hissifit of Achilles.

Iliad wasnt created by Homer ,even they say that ..iliad is PELASGO -THRACO ,two of Homer ’s teachers were Thrachians ….this is a STOLEN HISTORY !!!!

@@AlinnaIrimia not stolen. Simply passed on as a tale. Homer can't help that historians credit him with writing it.

They didnt have modern archeological practices to adhere to, or go by! Not really a fault thing, and its entirely human to want credit for accomplishing interesting things, certainly this would be no different!

Schliemann was a dilettante and did a lot of damage, but he also recorded and published meticulously. In many ways, he pioneered modern archaeological methods.

True, but they were pioneers & formed the basis for what the field is now.

Then you would hate Aussie palentologists(dinosaurs) They use dynamite..to find stuff..we got glue.

How can somebody damage the stones ?

i mean, you can. Grab a shovel, put on a cool desert hat and say "i'm an archeologist". bamm, self-proclaimed archeologist.

Go on...get digging then 😂😂😂

Nah I will just self proclaim myself achilles and put an end to this whole matter.

You can- knowledge and education are within your grasp. You needn't go to an Ivy League school to have the level of education that some pay thousands to receive..with only a piece of paper signed by some other guy who paid thousands for the right to tell you you're a _________(

@@wrongturnVfor If you're gonna be Achilles, be sure you wear a really tough pair of boots.

It is sweet until you consider that Schliemann destroyed the sites above the location of the jewelry.

When your rich you do what you want lol

It also refers to Helen as a princess of Sparta rather than a queen.

Historians now think Hector and Ajax were from an earlier tale based on their armor and shield descriptions.

Most likely Homer did what most famous writers do - picked up a bunch of cultural ancient stories, added some salt and spice and everything nice and produced one great "epic" or two to get famous.

They really have no clue at all how old America is or this planet

Jeremy Kirkpatrick I guarantee you they don’t they be guessing this planet and humans are old as the dirt 😂😂 sike

B Nizzle and I don’t have time to go back and forward with slowness

@Ramona Rael If you remove a zero, you'd have it right--> about 30 years. The late dating of the new testament by scholars is about 50-100ad. The early dating is 50-70ad. Christ is believed to have died around 30ad. The earliest quotes from new testament books are from around 100ad. No one claims they were written 300 years later.

@@marleneglamworld1452 Um, I think he is referring to the USA, not the actual land, lol.

Button Mashing Queen Another post said Korfman died in 2005...so....

Ancient 😂

It's on RU-vid - they no longer allow current info -

@@bethbartlett5692 😂😂😂

Obviously quite old as guy is talking about Yugoslavia

Ads? which ones? 🤣

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Well I just skip the video to the end and then I press the arrow circle and... Magic all ads gone :)

I'm just going out on a limb here, but im assuming most viewers are watching this on a mobile device using the RU-vid app, and thus, do not have an ad blocker. However, I do realize that there are still people who do it the old fashion way.

@@histguy101 Good assumption good sire!

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It's found

Look up the richat structure

I say look it up they found a place that matches the details of the city in Africa

Plato made up Troy as a cautionary tale for Athens.

Chrsi Aldridge: I agree, absolutely.

A couple of points but I agree with sentiment. a) I believe Homer was blind and just repeating oral History in the tradition of the time.(he couldn't have seen anything) b)He says he used the Iliad for directions but his directions and sailing distances ,tides don't match to Turkey c) The description of land and climate don't match ,making many believe a northern or western European site for Troy.( No doubt the site in Turkey is more than worthy of more research but I don't think anything found so far proves it to be Troy . I read a couple of works from diff authors proposing alternate sites that fitted the directions and topography much better than the Turkish Location.( I need to go through many bookcases to see if I can find any of them to give a ref, sorry still very old school in that regard )

@@Evilroco there are many clues pointing that original Troy lies in Adriatic sea and coast,behind mountains.. after fall of Troy,Odysseus is wandering 10 years and Homer describe parts of coast and some islands in the Adriatic sea.. there is long tradition in seafarring and horse raising among this people,and for some time in history,they were called Illyrians..

every bit of "mythology" penned in ancient times was not meant to be a work of fiction, it was an historical account. It's just that modern "scientists" cannot cope with the fact how advanced ancient civilizations were, and that's why they decided to call ancient history "mythology" and pretend it never happened.

Tom Jones yeah right, they’re always about their opinions and not just facts and science that can be factually proven.

It's because the trade of archeology is based almost entirely on opinion ,their is no empirical truth, their never will be . these guys are a rare breed ,very self assured . So you are right ,but it isn't because they think they are better ,it's just that everyone has their own version ,a version which they've sold to their benefactors , their students and every article they have ever written. If they don't show progress ,then the money runs out . It's sad to me that archeology has more to do with research funds than fact.

Yep and they are all in for the money...meager as it is..They want fame.

Michael Wood did this topic so much better back in the 80s.

Yeah, they're only the people that dig the site. What?

mehh....debatable cuz highly speculative

Yeah calvert then scheliman forgive the spelling of the Germans name sorted that a century n a half ago

He did. Schliemann had read the Iliad and compared geographic references from the book with local evidence. He only mistook the wrong layer as "the Troy"...

Def is Troy. Schleiman went to Turkey at a time when everyone thought it was a myth using the Illiad as a guide to figure out where to look, gets about where he thinks is right and asks locals "wheres Troy?" they point to where he digs, He finds a sprawling city dating back to time of the war and far earlier, complete with megalithic walls and priceless treasure. Yet, you always have people to try and find every excuse to how its not Troy because it was written about by Homer and was considered "mythology" ? I don't get it sometimes.

oh yes.Before Mongols took it.

MrMethadrine False it was abandoned in 500 A.D due to Constantinople. Mongols invades around 1100 A.D

more of an Indiana Jones like tombrobber. oh sorry Indiana Jones has Schliemann as inspiration.

Call archaeology a science is an even bigger stretch.

People are too restricted by their own insights to rationalize how everything was in the past. Even today. 50 years prior. American culture was dramatically different. To imagine 1,000 years. In a period where 3 generations may last one century at best. Less written accounts. No educational systems. In terms of today. One generation to the next its difficult to keep the definitions of words and slang consistent. In 30-50 generations of 1,000 years. Vs nature at its harshest... its astonishing that the story has survived at all.

Timeline - World History Documentaries .

They got their gold jewelry from Africa.

I think they're fantasizing about this being Troy. They are insisting this is Troy. They are depicting modern images. Causing confusion.

Can you please increase the volume on your uploads? They are somewhat quiet. Excellent content. Thank you so much for the documentaries.

Just figured I'd let you know the app doesn't work. It was very disappointing to find out. I guess I'm sticking with just curiosity.

JoachimderZweite Such fun.

Why would i lick A gift horse in the mouth ? Ewwwwww

That's good!

It will be in England

Imagine a thousand years from now someone uncovers Disney

Terry Rodbourn Me too

Do you know what means troy ?

Yeah, long ago fella. It's anyone's guess what sheet means.

Read The Lost Book of Enki

@@theloner6063 Don't be silly now. How can I read something that is lost. Switch on mate.

Hogwarts

Not unless the people of the future are absolute fools.

Anyone could probably find the movie

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He's stoned.

He's just happy. Someone is talking to him like they care about the subject