When you listen back to artists produced by Cheiron like NSYNC, Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears etc you realise how interchangeable the songs are. Any of those acts could have recorded those songs and they would fit their catalogue at the time.
I beg to differ, an NSYNC song sounds completely different to me than a Backstreet Boys song. Their formula is a bit different from each other but I see what you mean
Well Kevin left the group for a while… Plenty of musical groups are still together, just as plenty of other groups no longer perform together. It’s not a rare thing.
@@ssshar2176 yeah and what is Justin doing now? BSB is touring right now in 2022. yes many groups are still together, but never boybands. BSB's bond and chemistry is very rare and unique and stands the test of time for a boyband.
To get off topic, can we give Boys to Men their flowers. They were the most successful male group in the 90s and Billboard crowned them #4 most successful music act of the 90s decade outranking Backstreet Boys and NSYNC. Additionally Boys to Men were the world's greatest selling male group of all time at one point. Plus Boys To Men is still the #1 most successful male group on The Billboard Hot charts since 1990 outcharting Backstreet Boys, NSYNC, One Direction and BTS. Yet Pop Culture stills overrate every male group over Boys To Men 😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑 Oh and to know how competitive the 90s were (#1 Mariah Carey, #2 Janet Jackson, #3 Whitney Houston, #4 Boys To Men, #5 Celine Dion, #6 Madonna, #7 TLC, #8 Toni Braxton, #9 Garth Brooks, #10 Michael Bolton). Michael Jackson, Brandy, Britney Spears, Shawnia Twain, Alanis Morrisette, Backstreet Boys, NSYNC, And Spice Girls didn't even reach the top 10 and they too had blockbuster success in the 90s.
I think it’s the fact the b2m don’t have much cultural relevance, the weren’t really Part of a movement. The best way i can describe it is any other r&b act could’ve sang those songs and it have the same result, likewise b2m didn’t have the global reach these teen boy bands did, I’m from Ireland our music runs hand in hand with the uk and most of Europe and I can tell you wayyyyyy more people can recognise and name the teen boy bands and their songs over b2m, obvi they were v successfull, they just didn’t make a big impact to last in pop culture. Realistically if your not a dedicated fan could u even name any of the members?
I would love to know how chaotic their fandoms would've been if today's social media was around at the time. (Yes, I know the internet was just beginning it's boom during the 90s and early 00s but it was still new). It's no secret how political these two bands were amongst their fandoms. If you were around during the time and enjoyed the genre, you *had* to chose just one band and ride with them. It was almost impossible to like both (which is funny to think about). My mom was a total NSYNC girl (she loved Chris specifically), and despite liking Backstreet Boys her loyalty rode with NSYNC. It makes us laugh whenever we talk about it. There was also another time on MTV'S Total Request Live where Carson Daly had two teams (Backstreet Boys fans vs NSYNC fans) compete against each other. When the NSYNC team won, a girl from the Backstreet Boys team threatened Carson Daly AND the NSYNC team because she was upset her team had lost. These bands were HUGE and would close down literal streets due to the amount of fans showing up to support them (Just like MTV's Total Request Live had a special to promote Millennium and fans flooded the streets of New York). Fans would despise the girls the boys would date (including Britney Spears when she opened up for NSYNC. She had a cupcake thrown at her and was boo'ed. This was when Baby One More Time was released as a single). My mom also remembered how fans got so upset when Justin shaved off his hair too! I think it's interesting to see how "stans" were just as chaotic then as it is today, but imagine how much bigger it would've been if today's technology was around for that era.
I didn't really experience this "feud" because here in Canada, especially Quebec, BSB were much, MUCH bigger than Nsync. We embraced them long before the US did. And I was a BSB girl myself, but I still listened to Nsync. Having to pick sides is just stupid.
In Germany BSB has always been way bigger as well. They first started off in Germany, so they have been around for way longer than in North America. Also, I just saw them live 2 days ago playing to 12000 enthusiastic fans and it just hit me how popular they still are to this day. Obviously, BSB has never split up. Unlinke Nsync, so hard to predict if they would be doing the same in case they hadn't.
I never really thought of the BSB vs *NSYNC feud as being manufactured but now it all makes perfect sense. It’s yet another example of how absolutely gross the music industry is lol.
@ MiMi The BSB guys always seem so humble and real. No offense to Justin Timberlake……I like him and all, I’m happy for his success. But he clearly let fame get to his head after becoming for successful than his fellow members. And the fact the he refuses to join them for a NSYNC comeback is disheartening!
Same, I was still obsessed with BSB when everyone else my age loved N*sync. I consider Millennium to be among the best pop albums of all time, in terms of the music itself. One of those albums with no skips.
Really, I’m my 4th and 5th grade class, it seemed like Backstreet Boys were more popular amongst most of my peers. (I’m also a Backstreet girl just like you). I’ve also heard few of my friends diss NSYNC a few times. (Which I never did as I liked their music too).
@@PrincessWhatsername no skips my ass, backstreet’s millennium album was just singles and filler and the bulk of the albums tracks couldn’t hold a candle compared to the singles
Man, when I was a kid you could lose friends over which group you liked better 😂 I was (still am) a HUGE fan of BSB. I had all of their posters all over my walls and even felt personally attacked when someone said they were an Nysync fan 😂😂😂 Now I am both an Nysync and BSB fan bc they both got bops!
Imagine the privilege to afford multiple copies of a CD just to help your fave win a feud in the 00s...like CDs were expensive back in the day, I can't imagine having that kind of money to just throw away lmao (I'm sure some/most people gave copies away as gifts etc, but still).
@@NeonGreenSpidey i mean, I'm sure that's a thing people do today, kpop stans are a whole other breed lmao. In the 90s and early 00s, though, I can't say. I was a kid and internet was for rich families, YT didn't exist yet so I was entirely unaware of any pop not being played on US radio stations. Also, $20-$30 for a CD was technically more expensive than it is now if you look at the value of a dollar at the time.
Nsync was bigger than BSB in the US but BSB was wayyy much bigger than Nsync in the rest of the world, like their album black & blue sold 5 million in its first week alone, but both boy bands were definitely talented.
I was going to comment on Black & Blue. BSB sold over 130M albums worldwide and I'd argue that NSync had more popularity at the tail end of the boy band wave but that is because BSB took a break. NSync sold very well of course but they never quite reached the same level as BSB--they definitely seemed more popular in the states though. BSB still tours as a group. I like both groups but BSB was first and had a much harder way to go legally they had to pay out a lot of money whereas NSync did not have to pay as much because their true success came after they left Lou! BSB had popularity overseas in Europe before they were known in the US also.
i would say that nsync was bigger in the us when bsb took their short hiatus, because bsb’s millennium tour broke records the year before so technically bsb was bigger in the us haha. i could be wrong but that’s what i know! and hell yeah both bands were talented as fuck.
What you said about Spice Girls was true in regards to the US. Nevertheless in the UK and somewhat internationally All Saints have giving them a serious run for their money on the charts. They were the anti-glittery, manufactured group. They were like the P!nk to Britney Spears. However they’re music was still mainstream pop. Just with more edge.
I agree, All Saints was a pop group with substance. Especially when they worked with William Orbit. Listen to Black Coffee for an example of their collaboration.
@@m3rl1n4 I wish they had done much more collaboration Black coffee and Pure Shores are definitely great examples!!!! That's why they were number one UK hits lol. He was a techno dance machine during the late 90s and early 2000s thanks for his work on Madonna's Ray Of Light album n Beautiful Stranger. He definitely should've done more with All Saints 🥺
Id rob a bank to make sure i attend as many concerts as i could bc i know theyd probably only do one tour and i haven't ever been since i was a small kid when they were famous. It's only as i hit my 20s that i realized they are amazing and JC is so cute!! But yeah, JT clearly is the one from preventing it to happen
@@ifyouwantoreplyjustclickth5063It's actually JC. On Lance's podcast in 2020 he asked each member how they felt about a reunion tour and everyone besides JC was open to the idea. Even Justin said he was open to it! But JC sounded really offput by it. I think he's enjoys having a quiet life out of the limelight, he's already doing what he wants to be doing (producing and song writing), and he's probably overthinking that he's passed his prime and can't do what he used to do 20 years ago, but who knows? 🤷🏽♀️ If it's not one member who doesn't want to do a reunion tour, it's another one lol
I love both NSYNC and Backstreet Boys (BSB). But I realize because BSB had more hit songs and albums. BSB is a bigger boy band. Plus, BSB are the biggest selling boy band of all time. Though they are tied with NSYNC with 8 Grammy nominations. By the way, seeing how BSB had a #1 album (2019 DNA album), 2 huge tours (Vegas Residency and their DNA World Tour) and a recent Grammy nomination in 2019...still proves how people love BSB till this day. But I do wish NSYNC would release one more album and do a tour.
Honestly if you paid attention, there’s not really much that bsb has accomplished that *NSYNC hasn’t, everything bsb is doing now both artistically and commercially is generally quite mediocre, if *NSYNC got back together now they would be 10 times as popular.
I was born in 2000 so this was a bit before my time but I ended up becoming a huge BSB fan, Larger Than Life was my most played song on iTunes and continues to be one of my favourite songs ever
One blaring correction that I see is that New Kids on the Block was the prototype for Uber successful boy bands… in all reality, Boys II Men and New Edition was actually the prototype, but were not ready for that conversation
Yes for group dynamics new edition modelled later boybands like backstreet boys and *NSYNC, but new kids on the block were essentially a blue print for how to get their commercial success to another level.
I prefer backstreet boys a real group in my opinion, I feel like nsync was like let's prepare Justin Timberlake for his solo, other members in nsync could sing and I think jt Sanchez was the better singer but no lets shove Justin in everybody face.
Hi Honest nice video BTW (By The Way) I would like to see a video about Missy Elliott & her career & impact on hip hop/rap. I would also like to see a video of Brandy & her career & her impact on r&b music & her Full Moon / Afrodisiac Era & why Brandy is an important figure in r&b
Chris had solos in I drive myself crazy, and it's one of their best songs in my opinion. He has a really high beautiful voice. With that voice, he should've had way more solos.
@@KathrynMosley close enough, my point is Kevin and Howie barely sang, bsb don’t get credit for them all singing, their first album is 90% AJ and Brian
@@eguyatt6813 I think if we’re going by first albums alone it’s actually pretty even on both ends of most to least leads sung. Brian and AJ, do have the most but Nick is actually only a few leads behind them while Joey and Chris sing even parts to Kevin and Howie. It’s the only album where that’s the case as then Nsync focus more on Justin and JC and poor Lance only gets to showcase his vocals twice and then never again on their follow up albums. For BSB it’s the opposite Kevin and Howie start to have more leads each album, especially their last 6 albums. Having JC and Justin sing 90% of their entire catalog kinda makes sense and sad for the other guys because they can sing quite well. I think having that extra lead vocalist in AJ, Brian and Nick definitely makes a difference and when Kevin and Howie do their parts, also they have so many songs where all five sing lead vocals. Nsync has I think two overall. They definitely didn’t showcase each individuals voice quite like Backstreet Boys do and have but both are great in their own ways.
Honestly growing up I just thought there were two different boy bands that people compared to each other I had no idea that the management or the creator of one band I secretly made another one this kind of sounds like a Disney Channel movie lmao and there’s nothing wrong with creating another boy band but at the end of the day it’s disloyal and also does genuine because we don’t really know what he was telling the Backstreet Boys.
@@PrincessKLS Exactly princess because I just saw that they were rival bands I didn’t know they were technically brother band which I understand why they mentioned did that but it would’ve been more of a bigger for us if they would’ve went on tour together if they would’ve this shows together.
I still have both these groups greatest hits cds and i will say even though some of the songs are dated they are still fun and amazing and that 2 me is whats most important
Nsync and the backstreet boys are both of my favorite boy bands in the world 🌎 of all time just like my favorite female artists britney spears christina aguilera brandy and monica 🙂😁👍👏👏
In 7th grade I was obsessed with Nsync and my best friend was with BSB we both would download tons of things from the Internet of them and we thought wed marry Justin and Nick😆 good times☺️
I had NSync's very 1st TV performance recorded on VHS. My 7 yr old self watched it on repeat lmao. BSB's music is more timeless tho. "As Long As U Love Me" by BSB still gets play from me!
Stop it nsync is gone but THE BACKSTREET BOYS STILL HERE and Become The GREATEST BOYBAND OF ALL TIME ALMOST 150 MILLIONS ALBUMS WORLD WIDE HARD TO BEAT THAT.
Lol I was a little Kid when they put out these albums. I didn’t know there was a feud I just thought it was good music. But I do love that members from both groups collaborate with each other for Back Sync
He said new kids on the block set the stage for the 90s boy band But I really think that was new edition mainly because they were the ones new kids looked up to and I believed they were formed by the same manager and new kids was made as a “white new edition” because they would be able to sell better he should make a video on this it’ll be interesting to see
*NSYNC really could’ve been bigger if they tried but they were so popular in America than they didn’t really need to be huge internationally, even though they did have modest success pretty much everywhere.
BSB FOR LIFE! I like bye bye but I honestly didn’t know nsync existed until I came to live in the states but BSB was huge where I’m from and I still know and love all their songs
I love both Backstreet and Nsync they both had really great songs, but for me Backstreet because of the fact I heard them for the first back in 1997 Quit Playing Games with my heart love this group to this very day
@@eguyatt6813 Not really. BSB are the better singers and they have distint voices that complement each other. I don't like Justin's voice. He sound like a goat.
Lou as 6th member of each group he started but bsb and *nsync 2 different paths, one put money back because of him then they be free and other messy court battle for their name... both won at the end
I never really thought of it as a few I know that they had the same manager and the same person discovered them I always thought they was a like but they was talented I always can tell the difference between both of the groups but they just remind me of each other
Nsync was a boy band that was pin, against the Backstreet Boys on purpose. By the same person who created the first band, which it was the Backstreet Boys. Even though that both boy group were great band, Nsync were never going to beat or outlived the Backstreet Boys. Because they were never going to be bigger as them in the first place. People or fans never saw them as a freshly boy band, they always seeing them as the Backstreet Boys rival. Not to mention the person who created, both Backstreet Boys and Nsync. And other artists, he robs and stolen from them.
My most memorable part of the feud that sticks out to me till this day is when a BSB fan girl threatened to kill an NSYNC fan live on TRL when she lost a competition between the 2 lol also when the NSYNC fangirls won a Winnebago on the price is right and followed the guys tour bus cross country! Lol
It would have been nice to acknowledge that New Kids on the Block themselves were created as a copy of and direct competition to New Edition and was created by the former manager, Maurice Starr, who they fired after receiving a paycheck of 0.67 cents to split between the 6 of them. Just a brief one sentence would have been nice just because New Kids on the Block wasn't just meant to be competition to New Edition but to ERASE them (cause their former manager had a vendeta) and he seems to be succedding. Everyone credits New Kids on Block for modern boybands when they weren't even the originals. I am not sure if I would say that the rivalry is what pushed into international stardom because both groups gaijed fame internationally without their rivalry BEFORE coming to the US. It was only in the US that the rivalry was beneficial.
It was the other way around. Spice Girls would never be associated with All Saints whereas the latter would be constantly compared with the quintet. Plus, although All Saints had the best selling single in the UK for many years and broke Spice Girls record once the Spice Girls had a way much bigger success internationally (hits and albums). All Saints were quite successful in the UK but not so much elsewhere. Backstreet Boys vs *NSYNC is a different subject, they came to a point in which they were head to head, even though BSB still remains overall the best selling boy group with the most global hits hence the most successful.
It's really weird to think all the boy bands were owned by the same person, nobody really knew that at the time I think. In my city all the bars/clubs are owned by the same person as well, really gives illusion of choice :/.
What I really never understood about Nsync is why the hell only two of them sang all the songs... The other 3 did... Back vocals? And were more like a dance crew than vocalists? I swear I have no idea how their voices sound like.
Because of the groups vocal comfort zones and the fact that they sang 5 part harmonies. Chris' comfort zone is way higher than all members, joey's was lower than jc and justins and lance is a baritone and cant sing that high comfortably. All the bsb members are tenors so theyre able to easly divide lead parts, but that also affected their harmonies, they usually do 3 part harmonies but 4 parts on brief moments
@@nfected00 that's great, but I wish they had not just a secondary role but more spotlight. When I think about Nsync I just remember Justin and JC's voices.
@@RiotGrrrl10 songs that I will recommend where you can hear the rest. Chris - I drive myself crazy Joey - You got it/I thought She Knew Lance - The Only Gift(christmas album) I know there's more songs where you can hear them but I specifically chose those songs where their voices shine.
TEAM NSYNC FOR LIFE! But in all seriousness Lou Pearlman was responsible for the “feud.” He would make up stories saying that NSYNC was talking crap about BSB and visa versa. He was so gross! And I’m glad they’ve all realized this years ago and became friends. I wonder if Lou was friends with the original management of New Edition and TLC; they had all their money stolen too.
That one guy I think his last name was Wright was "friends" with Lou or at least cordial. Lou seemed like a narc parent using triangulation on his kids to pit them against each other and dividing them. Glad they found out the truth way before he died. Could you imagine all that mess coming out posthumously (for Lou)? Such gross behavior.
Alex Greggs who helped JC write and/or produce some songs for NSYNC's 2nd and 3rd albums, said in a recent interview that both groups actually did look out for each other during their respective lawsuits and hung out a lot more than ppl realize
I agree but at the same time, All Saints were like the complete opposite of The Spice Girls in terms of music and artistic image. While The Spice Girls were more colorful, joyful and fun with their fashion and music, the approach of All Saints was more dark, toned-down and serious. So in short, All Saints were like the Anti-Spice Girls, much like how Avril Lavigne was considered to be the Anti-Britney when she debuted in 2002 with her album Let Go. Also, All Saints was only successful in the UK whereas Spice Girls were HUGE both in the UK and US.
I loved all these groups and artists as a kid growing up in the 90s. Tbh I was only vaguely aware of the rivalry stuff and it didn't really ruin the scene for me.
@@eguyatt6813 Let me just tell you that I physically got into fights with classmates because she was a Wanted fan. Let me also tell you we were 12. Fangirls will always be fangirls.
The feud between the bands may have been fabricated, but the fans certainly thought it was real. I thought you would show the episode of TRL where a backstreet boys fan threatened to kill carson daly lol.