The Failure of Pokémon Brilliant Diamond Shining Pearl 

The worst part is that we love Pokémon and just want it to improve. But people just assume we’re haters or entitled just because we ask for a franchise that makes so much money to try harder. When the Let’s Go games are the best games to come out in about 5 years, that’s just depressing.

BDSP beating Metroid Dread in sales in the first few weeks is the most undeserved feat Pokemon has ever obtained

the fandom went from super excited for hoenn remakes, to super excited for sinnoh remakes.. to "please don't touch black and white"

We could have gotten Primal Dialga and Primal Palkia. RIP the possibilities

Im praying hard to never see an Unova remake at this point. Imagine a remake or "remaster" that is somehow worse than BDSP.... i shudders at the possibilities.

You wanna know how "faithful" these games are? They actually kept in glitches and oversights from the original DS games, such as the ability Sticky Hold having no effect in the overworld. Why they would deliberately have the remakes retain detrimental glitches from the originals? I wish I knew.

Masuda: Let’s remake it faithfully! Masuda: Keep the forced XP share.

It’s almost astonishing how the developers have managed to fail at something that they had previously succeeded at. It’s the gaming equivalent of changing your answer on test when you were right the first time, or retaking a test and somehow doing worst the second time around.

*"Is having one button for traditional faithfulness more important than a logical convenient function?"* - Gireum Red

“Its a diamond and pearl remake, not a platinum one” 🤡 imagine having to justify buying this crap with that statement. In denial over the fact that a ds game is better than a switch game in 2021.

The funny part is that in the manga, they actually had a plot line that involved the dex not having all the sinnoh pokemon. When Cyrus evolves magneton and nosepass into magnezone and probopass, when the protagonists couldn't defeat them because the dex gave no information about them. In the games, there's no reason for this restraint at all.

Pearl was my first Pokémon game but I’ve gotten so used to Platinum that I don’t even remember things like the Pokétch having one button, the Galactic building in Eterna City being a normal apartment building, and the ghost gym being a math quiz.

People really need to understand that the people that validly criticize the game aren't saying they can't have fun with it. What confuses me is the fan's willingness to defend a product that could and should have been much more for the price it is.

25:13 This hurts for me because I love seeing reimaginings to old characters instead of them just wearing the same. Pryce and Morty actually look like leaders of their type in the remakes. Wally looks more distinguished from your average trainer. Brawly looked more like the "dude bro" surfer his character was associated with. Archie and Maxie feel more like threats. The Rocket exects are actually characters now. They got so much free waifu and husbando bait out of it like with Steven, LGPE Lorelei and Flannery. Why couldn't we have that stuff for Sinnoh. Gen 4 has some great character design, don't get me wrong but I would've liked to see something different. Have Roark and Byron in better mining gear. Have Barry in a jacket reminiscent to his father. Gardenia could be a bit messier with leaves in her hair and stuff from playing with nature. Give Fantina a new spooky dress. Crasher Wake is literally a blank canvas for new designs. There's so much you can do her but no. You had to take out one of my favourite aspects of remakes because "it wouldn't be faithful".

I don’t know why, but of all things, them removing Berries dance animation was the most egregious change- It’s like they removed a massive chunk from his character by doing that.

I owe ORAS a massive apology after this game

The world record speedrun for this game is under 20 minutes. Idk how they made a game more broken than the originals. Not so faithful >:(

"Ahhh, it's the 25th anniversary of Pokemon. What's the best way to remind fans about how Gen 1 the greatest region? I know, how about Diamond and Pearl less effort faithful remake since the pokedex has 151."- Junichi Masuda

They actually removed from the originals as in diamond and pearl, you could at least place down furniture make the base your own, lay down traps too mess with other players and play capture the flag being able too expand your base if you capture Enough flags

“Or the possible soft lock in Candice’s gym that is faithfully recreated” You sir earned a sub. This video was hilarious.

Tbh the saddest thing about this is that this game got awesome sales, it's basically the best selling Pokémon game on its first week after release. And that's just plain sad. We as a fandom haven't learned a thing. There's no reason for GF, ILCA and the Pokémon company to change or improve. Any type of game they release will immediately be best-selling, so why put any effort???

You hit the nail on the head. It’s just a shame that people are so busy having their nostalgia goggles strapped onto their heads to see just how soulless and corporate that BDSP is especially compared to the previous remakes. And what’s worse is that any actual productive criticism will be ignored by the Pokémon Company because, in spite of those, they still made a ton of money from them. After all, in their book, why actually put in effort if they’re gonna be rewarded even at their most lazy?

The fact that DP will never get a remake in style of the pass games honestly just hurts me.

People need to stop blaming COVID for problems that have been around for years. The Pokémon Company/Gamefreak was lazy long before COVID existed. I’m sure it didn’t help, but these games would have been garbage whether a pandemic happened or not.

"Faithful" is an excuse for their laziness

Sometimes I wonder Why I had expectations for these games at all

Well if their is one positive BDSP is it making people appreciate ORAS more.

1. I love this guy's reviews they're too funny. 2.Gen 5 remakes are going to break my heart.

The undercooked, moldy burger sold more and was easier to produce. That's why they remade it.

Seeing this makes me really hope they NEVER touch black and white and black and white 2 I don't want a remastering of those anymore cause there just gonna remove world tournament and replace it with a shitty battle tower

The worst part about the gen 4 "faithful remakes" is that they removed the gambling. . .

After ORAS gave us Primal Forms I was really hoping we would've seen the Origin forms for Dialga and Palkia.

We all wanted an actual remake and what GF commissioned was essentially a glorified remaster that looks better suited for the Wii or even 3DS

It's really depressing to look at these games butchering my childhood. The worst part is ILCA made a beautiful looking game and put a lot of effort into the presentation, since the code was literally copy/pasted from DP. If Masuda wasn't the director, these games could have been great

Me: Pal Park was designed for the DS. Jerry: The Poketch was designed for the DS. Me: I... damn! The man has a point!

Pokemon doesnt care about older fans anymore cause now they care about kids

They just made "faithful" remakes because it was the cheapest possible way to do it. TPCi is clearly putting all the effort and budget on Legends Arceus

The powers-that-be didn't HAVE to omit the Platinum content from BDSP. They CHOSE to, and that says so much about how those powers-that-be view Pokémon as a franchise these days.

48:06 A summary and remaking his statement: “What if we remake Red and Blue but expand the existing Kanto region with new areas? What if we remake Gold and Silver but try a ton of batshit content and make the game look moody and beautiful as hell? What if we remake Ruby and Sapphire and add lore to Hoenn and make it as lush as possible?” What if we remake Diamond and Pearl, keep the bad stuff, remove the fixes from Platinum and add nothing new?

BDSP has to be the safest remake ever made. Not much improvements from the original DP and remakes shouldn't be one to one exact like the original. It's like that pointless Psycho remake made decades after the original black and white Psycho.

These games are shit for “remakes,” when they still lack platinum content, having the same problems from the OG Diamond and Pearl, dexcut to where it’s Gens 1 to 4 and not the other 4 gens too like Gen 5 to Gen 8, glitches and bugs, soft locks, lazy animations in general like the reused ones, permanent exp share, and no megas. “Faithful,” more like laziness and it looks like a crap remaster with less effort put into.

I realized something terrifying about the possibility of a Gen 5 remake: they could easily make it another Let’s Go game and restrict the player to only the Unovan 156 even in the postgame.

They stopped caring around X and Y. The creators came forth and admitted it. They think no one has time for all those special features.

The fact that most points while playing this game i just thought about playing platinum says a lot about the undercooked mess that is BDSP. I thought it was fine but honestly they probably shouldn't had bothered.

They hella finessed us putting platinum mons in the hideouts but restricting their evolution items to postgames

The games are fine, but that's the problem: they're just fine. Platinum is still better, and these remakes could have been Platinum and more. The missed opportunity is disappointing, above all else.

In defense of Volkner's Octillery, it actually makes sense. He's an electric gym leader, so of course every hot shot challenger is gonna rock up with a ground type, then bam, water type so challenger has to be able to adjust for that instead of just sweeping with a dugtrio or something.

No worries. The game was made in Unity, so it shouldn't take long for people who really care about the game's quality to make a Rom Hack to fix this clusterfuck.

I think game freak was planning traditional DP remakes like what we got with oras. However they felt they could do more and the project morphed into legends arceus. But they knew the fans would throw a tantrum if they didn’t get their Diamond and Pearl remakes so at the last minute they hired Ilca at the last minute to develop these games.

Was planning to get BDSP but couldn't get it right away & instead found a rom hack called Renegade Platinum. After playing that & hearing the reviews about BDSP I decided to continue playing Renegade Platinum

At least the Hoopa rings in ORAS were placed in areas that somewhat befit their respective Pokémon, even recreating the layouts for the Sinnoh lake spirits. Like, you actually had to seek out these areas. Then gen 7 and onward was when the legendaries just got stuffed into holes. Like, I wished USUM could've at least made outcroppings/rooms that resembled the respective regions the legends resided in. But no, it was either generic cliff/cave/jungle/lake. If they're going to keep doing this, they should at least get better/befitting rooms

Yeah these games are truly lazy. Many "fans" are putting them on a pedestal and getting angry at anyone who dares to give reasonable criticism(which honestly shows how senseless a lot of fans in this community are). There's a difference between being toxic and critiquing $60 games that are barley any different from their already incomplete predecessors. Its truly a shame that the most asked for remakes in the franchise got shafted so hard.

"if a movie messes up and leaves a microphone or a camera visible in a scene, they edit it out in late releases, then years later they remake the movie, should they go out of their add back the microphone or camera?" people who say yes are the ones saying its a dp remake not a platinum remake

These games should've been called "Pokémon Diamond and Pearl but in 3D" instead, because it's just that.

If anything should be faithfully remade it’s that price tag.

I feel like this remake should’ve happened in 7th generation, so we can see all pokemon. Plus, the bottom touch screen.

Well I have good news for y'all. Some rom hackers are working on putting Renegade Platinum into BDSP; the wild Pokemon changes at the very least are already finished. Speaking of which go play Renegade Platinum already, it makes Platinum look like an extremely half-assed game in comparison and brings the game up to a challenging modern standard. That rom hack fixes just about all of the issues I had with gen 4, which the remakes kinda failed to do.

The lightning strike scene is better than in the originals honestly. At least something happens as it hits the ground. The problem I have with the remakes is, it doesn't feel like other remakes that were the old games with more content and the most recent Pokemon, movesets and mechanics. Thanks to dexit that means: we can't use every Pokemon at their fullest potential and it doesn't feel like Sinnoh with the Generation 8 take. It just feels like the DS games but with funko pops that has follow Pokemon and Fairy Typing. Literally something you can experience from a DS romhack. No Dynamax. No past Gen 4 Pokemon. No Megas. No Z-Moves. Movesets and moves in general are restricted since I doubt any Pokemon have Pursuit or Return in these games. It was tolerable for Let's Go since it was a Hybrid Game that tried to convert Go Players into Mainline game players and Kanto already had a good remake. MerryBytes made a good retrospective of DPPt.

i think the Funniest thing regarding the outfit stuff is that when you brought up cyrus wearing more casual clothes so its not obvious he's the villain, it reminded me how that was like. literally one of the only things the main anime did right for him. the rest of galactic was kind of butchered, but the idea of the boss hiding his identity in public was probably the best thing they did. how did the main anime in all its trashiness do something right that bdsp couldnt

Quick question: Let's say in an alternate timeline where DP/BDSP didn't exist, and only Platinum did. What would everyone's opinion of Sinnoh be at that point?

Tbh the second I started the game and saw Barry running on water, I knew this game was going to be a joke

They did Sinnoh so dirty it's not even funny. The fanbase deserved better.

Ya know, some neat ideas from Sun and Moon would be nice for the gen 4 remakes. Type: Null, Ultra Beasts, and yeah. Also more pokemon variety from all regions, that way Team Galactic can use pokemon like Elgyem, Orbettle, etc. But nah, "fAiThFul" used bugs and cats!...

The best thing about these games is the fact they are made in Unity, which means these games are gonna be easy to mod sooner or later, the BDSP modding scene will go WILD the long awaited FRLG replacement is finally here -although FRLG can mostly stand on it's own, unlike BDSP-

One issue that bugs in me in particular next to lack of innovation or Platinum content, is that the remakes aren't even superior to DP in every way.. The underground base decoration, CTF mini game, traps, sphere growing and burying AND item trading with other players are completely gone in the remake. The contests are super simplified and now dumbed down to super simple rhythm games only lasting one minute, the Mulchs from the original are gone, once again simplifying a feature unnecessarily. You can't water all the plants next to each other in a row anymore though, so another convenience feature gone Also, the forced exp share and especially the awful affection system suck any challenge out of the game. On top of that, as you said, the story cutscenes are mostly ruined by the chibi artstyle, getting rid of even any hint of tension. The controls are much clunkier and worse than in the original as described in the video, there are two very useful Poketch apps missing and the controls are once again worse. Multi battles with NPCs in the Battle Tower seem to be gone as well. The GTS isn't in the game anymore either. The online battle timer is again down to 20 minutes as in SwSh, only now it's INVISIBLE. So yeah, while the remakes do certainly have several advantages over the original DP, they are still inferior to even DP in several regards in my opinion. And obviously, we don't even need to talk about Platinum. They didn't innovate where it was necessary, but even excluded features from the original. It's just incredible how they fucked up this remake.

I am extremely terrified for Gen 5 remakes. My favorite region is about to get shit on.

BDSP is an insult to the fans of the series..

Despite the unsuccessful Run of the Oras Video, im very thankfull you made it. Gonna watch this now to the End as well.

I really don’t want them to remake Unova, BW2 are my favorite games of all time, which are either gonna be ignored or ruined :(

No doubt it, they ARE the worst possible remakes. Overworld chibi graphics doesn't make up for it. No Mega Evolutions. No species beyond the 4th generation available. Just about everything in the main storyline is exactly the same as the original Diamond and Pearl. It just comes to show how hyped everyone was for all this, only to see the results so down low.

I've been a fan of Pokémon since Gen 3, I've played nearly every main series game including both regular AND 3rd versions and even numerous side games such as the Orre Series, Pokémon Channel, New Pokémon Snap, Mystery Dungeon, I even own a fucking Pokémon Mini. I though X/Y were decent if barebones, thought SM were alright, and actually *defended* US/UM. Sw/Sh tested my patience, but i couldn't consider them outright *bad* games, just mediocre. What i'm trying to say is that I've always been optimistic for Pokémon throughout the years. But these games. These. Fucking. Games. They broke me, i'm finally done. When these games were first announced i was fucking *terrified* that they were just gonna copy paste D/P with a fresh new coat of paint, sucks to know i was right. I'm not gonna go on some long rant about what these games screwed up (and keep in mind i'm more of a gen 5 fan than a gen 4 fan), because you do it better than i ever could, and i'm not gonna claim to be the authority on this, cause i'm not. But what i AM gonna say is that if these games managed to break even the most tolerant of fans (that actually give enough of a shit to think critically about the games), then that should serve as an indicator that Pokémon's well and truly lost its spark. These games don't even deserve to be called 'Remasters', because that implies they actually did something to improve them. TL;DR: Fuck these games, i'm going to play platinum,

Barry has a level 26 starly in pastoria city , shit threw me off , I didn’t remember that in the originals

Also, whiling you can get most of the Gen 4 evos before post-game, you still *CAN'T* use Tangela, Porygon, Eevee nor Yanma before post-game -unless you're playing a egglocke- You also *CAN'T* evolve Rhydon, Gligar nor Dusclops before post-game, because there's no wild pokemon that have a chance it hold the Protector, Razor Fang, nor Reaper Cloth *not even wild Rhyhorns/Rhydons, Gligars, Duskulls/Dusclops*

Lie. It isn't faithful. It's a recreation that pales to the original because THEY REMOVED MOVES.

It feels like at this point any shit Gamephreak will throw, the zombie fans will be like:"Oh nice! another new meal!" , they will procceed to eat that shit and even do Gamephreak's PTR for the game so they can defend why they watsed 60 dollars, again.

minor compaint about the video : the theory that fantina is kalosian is based solely on the fact she speaks french on the english version. however she speaks english in all other versions, so it's more likely that she's like unovan or galarian even

Tbh I don't want them to remake black and white bc I don't want to see ghetsis in a chibi style anyways congrats for 15.2 subs keep up :)

The story ideas you had are actually amazing. Especially the one with dialga and Palkia sending you back to the Husui region. That would be a suburb! Legends arceus would be a direct sequel and would make actual sense!

I just noticed that while Let's Go was heavily restricted, you could still use Alolan forms and Megas which you can't in the DP remakes. You only get Shaymin Sky, Arceus Fairy, Rotom forms and Giratina Origin. But no variation of other old Pokemon.

Modern Gaming in general is dead, most companies only care about $$$ and the quality has gone to shit. These are sad times we are living right now 😔

38:40 There was a pitch for a mod that would replace the overworld models with their Pokemon Rumble counterparts to make them fit more with the chibis.

Platinum is true sinnoh, even in black and white cynthia, when defeated, says "you remember me of that trainer who caught giratina", meaning platinum is true sinnoh in pokemon timeline

Does anyone realize how many Sinnoh flaws were fixed in Platinum? Only people willing to criticize the Pokemon Company for the limits forced on the company responsible for BDSP.

You mean, worst remakes SO FAR...

After these “remakes” and this video I don’t want a Gen 5 remake.

No way...ONE button for the Poketch apps again? Why...just why?

We already know why they remade Diamond and Pearl. Two games that are the same. Two times the profit.

You forgot that this game still need a HM Slave for TM Flash (Wayward Cave)

The fact that you didn't mind the Chibi art style or the Forced EXP Share (both of which are easily dealbreakers for me), yet STILL hated this game, really makes it sink in just how awful these games are.

I would rather play Pokemon Blue than these remakes...it hurts to play these remakes. Platinum version was glorious.... Whoever did ORAS, please remake Gen 4 or something....my heart and soul is dying...

Yup now I don't want a gen 5 remake.

Coming from a long-time first generation fan (Fifth Genner, not Genwunner), it’s a long time issue that GF consistently has with its aging audience. GF really don’t listen to their fans expectations or input, they just retroactively go off of data from past game sales, popularity polls, so-on and call it day. Especially considering that D/P is one of the highest selling Pokémon games of all time, I find it silly that this time they didn’t want to experiment, when it didn’t stop them years ago with HG/SS. Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if Gen V never gets a remake considering how low Gen V Sold.

the amount of 'this is dp not platinum silly hurr durr' comments online really drive me up the wall

The faithfulness to D/P is the game's main and only real problem. It's such a frustrating and bad decision. If they'd remade Platinum faithfully instead, we'd all love it. It's not ILCA's fault, it's a flawed and stupid design choice probably forced by Masuada or TPC

I’m scared about the Black and White remakes…I don’t even want them to touch it

Also, to all the competitive/metagame players. Not only is there *no Move Tutors* in this game (even tho FRLG, HGSS and even ORAS had them), meaning you likely can't have access to certain moves like Earth Power, The Elemental Punches, Iron Head, Wild Charge, Liquidation, Mystical Fire, Heat Crash, High Horsepower, Darkest Lariat, etc. just to name few on most mons, but there's also *no such thing as ANY POST GEN-4 HELD ITEMS* in otherwords, No Evolite, No Safety Goggles, No Assault Vest, No Weakness Policy, No Utility Umbrella, No Throat Spray, and No Heavy-Duty Boots, cause fuck you those items are unfaithful. there's only the pinch berries that were introduced in Gen 7 Figy, Iapapa, Wiki, Aguav, and Mago berries

The word "faithful" is ambiguous and this is deliberate. A truly faithful remake, in my opinion, rebuilds the game while answering the question "what would the original be like if it were first released on the current hardware instead of its original hardware?" Resident Evil 2 is a great example. Its skeleton is COMPLETELY different from the original, and yet it is very clearly faithful to the original. Demon's Souls is also a great example. Its skeleton is changed very little from the original unlike RE2, and it is also clearly faithful to the original. What does this mean? Pure mechanical "faithfulness" does not mean anything. There is more to games. Games are more than the sum of their parts and components. BDSP does *not* answer this question. The Switch hardware is demonstrably capable of more. It would have been less insulting for Nintendo to simply port Platinum version to the Switch with whatever changes would be required to integrate the second screen functions so they work on the Switch.

My Delphox is still stuck in my 2DS

We all know they didn’t keep the chibi style for the Pokémon because it was cheaper to reuse the same 3DS models from 2013, like the last 9 games.

The burger example was my favourite part of this and the Let's Go video. Great service