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The Failures of Deku's "Vigilante Arc" 

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Deku's Vigilante Arc, or Villain Hunt arc, whatever you want to call it, has finally wrapped up in My Hero Academia Season 6. This used to be my least favorite arc in the series, but why? Let's talk about how this arc started the downward trend of Midoriya, Endeavor, Hawks, and so many more.
Preamble: 0:00
The Potential: 1:47
The Consequences: 2:53
The Endeavor & Hawks Issue: 6:25
The Disinterest of One for All: 9:37
The Bastardization of Izuku Midoriya: 11:08
The Apology: 15:04
The Worst Chapter: 16:32
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@Horacio_Poggi
@Horacio_Poggi Год назад
The only mistake of the arc for me is that it was too short, I liked everything else and can't really complain much.
@cravercrash5074
@cravercrash5074 Год назад
exactly, it was just too short than I thought it was gonna be
@crescent_rose__
@crescent_rose__ Год назад
Yea
@mr.spidey89
@mr.spidey89 Год назад
It had unnecessary hype.
@izukukageyama7552
@izukukageyama7552 Год назад
Yeah honestly it is one of the best arcs, not sure what tf this guy is talking about.
@TheCreed1217
@TheCreed1217 Год назад
I feel like most of the complaints for this arc are just very nitpicky or they just blatantly ignore the context of the story at the moment for all of the issues they have not being addressed. When I see people bring up the lack of consequences for Endeavor or Hawks I just question the readership. Who the fuck is going to hold them accountable for their crimes in societies' current state? You could argue Hawks' lack of apprehension towards Endeavor is a little weird but Hawks is inherently biased towards him but he is also capable of seeing the man he is now isnt the same as back then. I dont have an issue with the power progression at all it makes sense given the context of the story and still comes with adequate risk even fueling deku's self destructive tendencies even more in this arc which was the best part, even if the finish wasnt as good as it could've been. I've had to argue with way too many people that cant suspend their disbelief over the top two heroes not being indicted amidst societal collapse or how they clearly get plenty of pushback especially Endeavor for their sins, ala Dabi and failing to keep the public safe. We're literally shown society turning its back on its protectors so hard even the heroes we thought were legit like Death Arms hung up the suit.
@whochangemyname6977
@whochangemyname6977 Год назад
WARNING: This comment section MAY contain spoilers for future season 7! If you don't wish to be spoiled any further, don't look at the comment section.
@PronutChaney
@PronutChaney Год назад
W comment
@Boruto-cooks
@Boruto-cooks Год назад
Bakugo had got killed again
@_Pinkguy_
@_Pinkguy_ Год назад
​@@Boruto-cooks I hope he stars dead this time at least
@Storm-Cloud
@Storm-Cloud Год назад
​​@M Y T H I C A L N O V A the proof is in the manga He isn't really confirmed dead but not alive eighter
@246bajanboss2
@246bajanboss2 Год назад
@M Y T H I C A L N O V A no joke he not lieing he dies again like die die
@shirokane0153
@shirokane0153 Год назад
The only mistake for me is calling people calling it the vigilante arc. Horikoshi confirmed it was the Dark hero Arc.
@DraconicInsomniac9815
@DraconicInsomniac9815 Год назад
I keep calling it the Vigilante Deku arc, but only because Dark hero arc sounds more like the hero turned into a villain, but that's just me.
@vg-_-universal8283
@vg-_-universal8283 Год назад
Vigilante sounds cooler deal with it 😁
@shirokane0153
@shirokane0153 Год назад
@@vg-_-universal8283 also not canon. Real name is Dark Deku.
@vg-_-universal8283
@vg-_-universal8283 Год назад
@@shirokane0153 🤓 “also not canon heh”
@shirokane0153
@shirokane0153 Год назад
@@vg-_-universal8283 Horikoshi came up with that name...so...you can blame him for it. Vigilante Deku like Cremation is a fan name. If you've read the spinoff manga, calling Deku a vigilante makes zero sense as he has a provisional lisence.
@nomus1172
@nomus1172 Год назад
For me it highlighted Deku’s flaws . His tendency to risk his life. Though he throws his life away too much that he can’t really save anyone.
@thefull9746
@thefull9746 6 месяцев назад
it highlights it but actually doesn't do anything with it. The characters or even Deku himself never adress it
@nikamoreillus661
@nikamoreillus661 6 месяцев назад
​@@thefull9746 what do you mean, dekus tendency to hold the burden by himself was said by tsuyu and shoto, telling him they were strong enough for deku to help him shoulder said burden.
@thefull9746
@thefull9746 6 месяцев назад
@@nikamoreillus661 that's not the type of thing that is supposed to be fixed just by another character saying "We can help you with it". The issue deserves more (it's litterally Deku's biggest flaw, the crux of his character)
@nikamoreillus661
@nikamoreillus661 6 месяцев назад
@@thefull9746 ochaco's speech helps deku to understand that he can't hold this by himself and to not put his class in such a low regard acknowledging that it's not just him that's going to become the greatest hero but everyone in class 1a. Then allmight was supposed to die because he kept on pushing himself the limit eventually burning out ofa in the process and almost died and it's the same with deku, he pushed himself too much and got some z's midbattle fr.
@nick25oo
@nick25oo 6 месяцев назад
⁠​⁠​⁠@@nikamoreillus661you’re missing the entire point. Deku needs to solve Deku problems. In Naruto, Naruto needs to solve Naruto problems. In bleach, Inchgo needs to solve inchgo problems and in One Piece, Luffy needs solve luffy problems. Getting help is fine but Ochaco can’t solve Deku personal problems for him, Deku needed to say something for himself or recognize his own problems and he never really did. Also the problem doesn’t end in one conversation. Deku is a good hero because he pushes himself and actually cares about people, so the story applying that part of him is just a bad thing sorta goes against Deku entire character.
@aBIgailjacob14411
@aBIgailjacob14411 Год назад
My main problem with these kind of shounen animes is that they are too afraid to kill off characters and it feel unnatural for so many people to make it out considering the stakes. It reflects badly on the villains and makes them seem incompetent and barely threatening :/
@R3in_Ch
@R3in_Ch Год назад
That's One of my biggest issue with shounen
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 Год назад
That's a pretty frequent occurrence for most media aimed at middle schoolers.
@Clemontye2.0
@Clemontye2.0 11 месяцев назад
Yeah Horikoshi shouldve pulled a Tatsuki Fujimoto
@ihave40wins63
@ihave40wins63 10 месяцев назад
This is why Aot is my favorite anime
@aBIgailjacob14411
@aBIgailjacob14411 10 месяцев назад
@@ihave40wins63 I'm honestly too scared to watch aot in case I get attached to a character that dies :(
@kobycolin2046
@kobycolin2046 Год назад
The wrappings were from America where sheald built then for all might, this connects the first movie to the main story where it's really nice to see
@pastorcodymitchell1456
@pastorcodymitchell1456 Год назад
Uraravitys speech is beautiful it almost made me cry
@Agent_3141
@Agent_3141 Год назад
The Dark Hero Arc is honestly one of my favorites. Seeing Deku just fight and not overthink everything was awesome, and I'm happy they took a more dark tone compared to last seasons
@dflaming1371
@dflaming1371 Год назад
Glad you likes it now, because it'll be like this never happened, he goes to the way he was before when Horikoshi actually puts him in the story instead of 101 new and side characters, and he never has and growth, thoughts or internal consequences to his month long, self destructive rampage
@egbertmilton4003
@egbertmilton4003 Год назад
It's barely darker than Overhaul, what are you talking about?
@Daboy804
@Daboy804 Год назад
People call it dark but he just beat up people while looking dirty with a mask. Nothing “dark” happened. Even vigilante Deku isn’t right because he has a license and is right now publicly known as the strongest hero. Better name is lonely Deku arc.
@mikhaelgribkov4117
@mikhaelgribkov4117 Год назад
The issue is that after Nagat fight we don't see him beating other bad guys AFO send after him before Tyrant comes in. It felt jarring how we got from Nagat dropping important plot point, only for Deku being rushed to get back with the class and then Stripes comes in to be the most bizarre in manga filler.
@Agent_3141
@Agent_3141 Год назад
@@egbertmilton4003 1: that's the name of the arc and 2: Deku's in a darker place and looks dark what are you talking about?
@Seraph_op
@Seraph_op Год назад
Funny because to me it was my favorite arc that got me back into MHA. Ok maybe not favorite because USJ and Sport Festival are still better.
@walruss-4069
@walruss-4069 Год назад
its a great concept but horrible execution
@raydygonzalez5714
@raydygonzalez5714 Год назад
Deku is still too good for me i want him a little more realistic.
@yuzmanito
@yuzmanito Год назад
because this series is trash
@ClavinZKL
@ClavinZKL Год назад
@@raydygonzalez5714 its a shonen..
@cultureandhistorynerd6739
@cultureandhistorynerd6739 Год назад
@@ClavinZKL And your point? Just because it's a Shounen manga, it doesn't mean that the hero/protagonist cannot be "realistic" or break away even a little from the standard mold.
@markfrantz4612
@markfrantz4612 Год назад
This was my favorite arc. I also read the manga. My only problem with it is that is was too short... It could have easily been a whole season worth of material imo. Where maybe we even see less of deku and instead we just see him in the backround... IDK. Still an AMAZING arc.
@TheAluvisify
@TheAluvisify Год назад
I think that you meant that it was too short in which case I agree with you. Seeing him more in the background would've definitely been nice. Like they tease him being in background with the rumors circulating and all but that sort of loses it effectiveness when the audience is still following him as a protagonist.
@markfrantz4612
@markfrantz4612 Год назад
@@TheAluvisify Twas a typo and has been fixed. Thanks!
@minou2980
@minou2980 Год назад
i liked it because for once hes the main character.. not 500 different side characters and their personal storys + battles that take up 40m of the episode but dont get me wrong i totally agree seeing their own personalities, the thing that blew my mind when i watched this was when momo lost her confidence and thinking back to the sports festival, its when the characters actually felt human to me, but not its just... either nothing, or dragged the hell out
@nathanjones9627
@nathanjones9627 Год назад
I literally said to my gf that this is the first time he’s really been the main character!
@Lumberjack_king
@Lumberjack_king 11 месяцев назад
Honestly he still isn’t even the main focus he never gets to talk about all he’s been through he was discriminated against for something he had no control over for year’s physically and mentally and no one ever talks about it not even him
@PainCausingSamurai
@PainCausingSamurai Год назад
The MHA manga tends to reflect the different eras of American superhero comics, and the vigilante Deku arc is an almost perfect deconstruction of the 90s trend of edgy antiheroes. Deku's costume even begins to resemble characters like Venom and Spawn.
@jamalhartley5863
@jamalhartley5863 Год назад
How is it a deconstruction when it doesn't say anything. As someone who has read a lot of comics the only thing that screamed anti hero was his costume getting jacked, nothing truly happened. I don't get how you can call it a deconstruction.
@threat3071
@threat3071 Год назад
"Deconstruction" has become a buzz word. Every single show that is pretty good is called Deconstruction these days
@PainCausingSamurai
@PainCausingSamurai Год назад
@Jamal Hartley "Deconstruction" may not be the best word, but it seemed the best fit for an arc that simultaneously pays homage to and critiques an era of comics generally defined by loner anti-heros, x-treme aethetics (animalistic poses, torn clothes, accessories, claws, etc.), distrust of authority, and general nihilism. The story has been building up the cracks in hero society for it's entire run, and it finally comes to a head with the formation of the PLF, the failure to stop Shiguraki, and Dabi's public address. Midorya is then seemingly set up to fall into the life of a solo vigilante after his encounter with Lady Nagant, where he'd eventually be forced to gradually lose his humanity and resort to more violent means. The intervention of class 1-A not only pulls Deku out of his downward spiral, but also refutes the very notion of nihilism and solo anti-heros. And they do this not through some saccharine speech about hope and friendship, but by drawing on their shared experiences, acknowledging the failures of the hero society, forcing Deku to see his actions are driven by fear, and demonstrating how much more affective they are working together. It may seem a bit rushed, but I felt it was efficient and effective.
@jamalhartley5863
@jamalhartley5863 Год назад
@@PainCausingSamurai I get that since this the first arc where Deku actually acts like a super hero 😅 so I get why some like it. Although violent? Nah. The only thing edgy about Izuku was his costume. He saved a guy who tortured a little girl aka Overhaul during the Nagant fight. So I didn't see that downward spiral you talking about. Would've been cool if we got that though! Plus that edge in the 90s was so short lived because it can't last. No one wants to read that every issue so it's focused onto characters who can carry that like Daredevil, Batman, Punisher, and the like.
@otterfire4712
@otterfire4712 Год назад
I would say it's more of a subversion of 90s edgy antiheroes. Midoriya has been adamant and diligent in fighting villains and saving lives. So diligent in fact, he has begun to neglect self care and has isolated himself from his friends, family, and eventually All Might. He seems to act more like Batman, always vigilant, always out prowling the streets. He looks like a monster, but his actions are quite heroic, leading to mixed rumors in the masses.
@PavillionKing
@PavillionKing 7 месяцев назад
What I dislike the most about the arc is that I never really understood WHY Deku had such a huge change in character. Like I get that a ton of people died, but no one in Shiggy's battle against the characters. If you want to turn Deku into a Batman like character, then kill off someone important to him like his mother or even a classmate and have him witness or even be partially responsible for it. If you don't want to make such huge sacrifices, then don't act like you did. Also, this arc was far too short. A character change this big, especially for the main character is something have affects that last for the rest of the story, now it's like it never even happened.
@gth839k
@gth839k 7 месяцев назад
This is a good thought, but I don’t think a character needs to die to explain the change. Bakugo sacrificing himself to protect Deku was enough to explain the transition. Deku actually sees and knows that everyone would sacrifice for you, because you are the savior. This is a heavy burden to bear. To me, that was more than enough to explain the transition.
@darkwinter2009
@darkwinter2009 7 месяцев назад
Well, there is a reason why Deku had an entire change of character. This was supposed to give a darker and scarier version of Deku. For about 10 years now since MHA released, a lot of the anime community are always complaining about Deku's crying. They always complain that he is a crybaby and that he cries too much. What I also find ironic is that when Deku eventually went out and changed into an entirely different person, people were now switching up and hyping up Deku acting like he is the best new gen MC of current anime. Also, yeah I do agree with the killing of person. But the problem is which character do we kill off because it has to be a person that Deku extremely cares about.
@leritykay8911
@leritykay8911 6 месяцев назад
I mean is it really fair to both complain about this being too short, AND not warranted enough? Which would be better? Deku's Mom dying and the arc still being short? That wouldn't make sense. Or maybe the arc being ten chapters longer? What would we even get out of that?
@rato_o6841
@rato_o6841 6 месяцев назад
​@@leritykay8911 At least it would explain the drastic change... These are two pretty unrelated issues so I don't see why one has to exist without the other.
@leritykay8911
@leritykay8911 6 месяцев назад
@@rato_o6841 Well I'm just saying, duration of a change also affects how drastic it is. Like if someone is very hungry and becomes agitated until he eats, that's not a drastic change. But if someone becomes agitated and angry for a few weeks straight, it IS. So the way I see it, it follows that if Deku didn't have a huge reason, then the change wasn't THAT drastic. He was putting on that mask for what, a week?
@KnShark
@KnShark Год назад
deku having rizz is enough for me
@egbertmilton4003
@egbertmilton4003 Год назад
His character has no rizz though.
@offensiveGame-Ing
@offensiveGame-Ing Год назад
​@@egbertmilton4003 He literally does
@mulanomula
@mulanomula Год назад
​@@offensiveGame-Ing he has fake rizz. writer wanted deku to get bitches so he just wrote it in. deku still has no rizz.
@offensiveGame-Ing
@offensiveGame-Ing Год назад
@@mulanomula If Deku is getting bïtches then that means he has rizz bruh
@xui856
@xui856 Год назад
​@@egbertmilton4003 Deku pulled Uraraka without trying, how does he not have rizz?
@austinsnyder8743
@austinsnyder8743 Год назад
I don’t doubt my hero academia vigilante has flaws, but I still love my hero academia.
@dommydom8673
@dommydom8673 Год назад
This is honestly my favorite part of MHA for me still tbh. I agree with everything you said, but for what we did get I really enjoyed. The weekly reading experience for this arc was incredible and seeing what twists and turns it took was extremely fun to read. Seeing Deku post PLW trying to take on the weight of the world by himself still is so interesting, and I loved it even if it never really got concluded properly. Starting it off with a Deku vs Muscular rematch was an absolutely insane introduction to the final act, and I just wish we got to see more of that. Imagine if Hori started to explore the idea of mutant discrimination in this arc. Imagine if we actually got more interactions with all might and Deku, and a scene of Melissa giving all might the new full gauntlet prototypes. Am I disappointed? Yes. But did I enjoy what was good. Absolutely. Great video btw.
@dflaming1371
@dflaming1371 Год назад
I dont fully understand saying "I'm disappointed in the overall arc while being happy with what I got."
@AhmedEx1.
@AhmedEx1. Год назад
​@@dflaming1371disappointed because its short, but good while it was there
@TheDeepPix3l
@TheDeepPix3l Год назад
Literally what twists? He got broody for like 10 chapters and then he wasn’t anymore.
@KashifReza-sl3vu
@KashifReza-sl3vu 7 месяцев назад
It didn't deliver what could have happened. Just an average arc at best.
@Thisguy2532
@Thisguy2532 Год назад
Still honestly this was what I was waiting for and imo it’s the best we’ve gotten the animation in the fights was top notch, me and my coworker loved every second of it considering after work every Saturday night we would sit and watch it and it was simply badass deku and we loved it
@QTRemnant
@QTRemnant Год назад
Eh. There were things that I agree with, like the main cast's reaction to hawks killing, their mourning of midnight, and having gran Torino die, but all the deku stuff... I have absolutely no idea where you got "deku destroys his body because he was discriminated against and he chalks up all of his problems on all might not being there". I don't know why people expected deku to bring up bakugo's bullying when deku's already moved past it, so I don't see what else they could've done (it was always something bakugo needed to get over). Might just be me, but I thought deku solving his self worth issues began with him accepting the name "deku" and ended when he chose it as his hero name. Personally, I don't see the problem with fa jin, danger sense, or smokescreen. The last two are basically just tools with one of them being something he can't turn on or off. Danger sense is practically spider sense in my eyes, so I don't really see the point of "mastering" it if it even can be. The reason that I don't have a problem with fa jin is because it shouldn't stop deku from using the real 100%. Fa jin is just a build up of a kinetic energy, so if the enemy can stop him from building up that energy, then he wouldn't be able to fake 100%. Overall, if I'm wrong in some places or all of it, then I have no problem with that. I'm glad that I at least bothered to watch the video all the way to the end. Maybe I'm just an mha shill and I don't acknowledge any of the problems that's currently plaguing the series because I'm honestly enjoying what I've watched and read without any or too many issues. Either way, this was a great video 👍.
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71
The way I see it in the case of Deku's self-destructive personality stemming from his years of systematic verbal and physical abuse at Bakugo's hands is best illustrated is when he's on that rooftop being told by All Might that he can never be a hero, literally vindicating EVERYTHING that Bakugo had been telling him for the majority of his young life, and further vindicating Bakugo's words that if Deku wants to be a hero then he should just kill himself and hope in his next life he'll have a Quirk. Just imagine that every horrible, uncaring word that you've been told your entire life was just echoed by the hero you've loved and respected your entire life... what would you want to do next on that rooftop? Now imagine that after that, you FINALLY got the Quirk, the POWER you've been longing for your entire life to give all the hardships you've been through over the years meaning and purpose... well, you'd want to keep that feeling wouldn't you? You would never allow yourself to not live up to the expectations of those who gave you such power, to prove people like Bakugo wrong in saying you are worthless, who gave you the power to continue the fight against villainy and evil... even if that meant rending your flesh, breaking your bones, tearing your very body to bloody shreds... because if you did, then you would be back on that roof wouldn't you? Reminded that you are a worthless human being... That you should never have been given this power to begin with... That everything you endured to reach this point was meaningless... That ultimately the best thing you should've done at that moment was take the leap and hope that next time will be better than this one... That IS what Midoria's mindset has been throughout the entire series and the person who started all of this was Bakugo. Just because Deku got over his bullying and abuse doesn't mean he's over the trauma of it, of being forced back onto that rooftop facing down his inadequacies every single time he fails to meet everybody's expectations because he wasn't good enough to win and wonder if what's on the other side is the better deal. And so in order for Midoria to finally get over his self destructive attitude, he NEEDS to face its ultimate cause... and the apology wasn't that. What should've happened is that after Bakugo said he was sorry for what he did to Deku, Deku should've then dumped everything he felt back at Bakugo. The years of abuse, the agony of trying to befriend and stand by a boy that would never allow it, the soul grinding of being told day after day that he was, is, and will never be a human being in the eyes of the people around him. It is only when both Midoria and Bakugo are made to face the consequences of their actions can Bakugo truly say sorry for what he has done to Midoria and Deku can truly forgive him for it and begin to lay the pains and inadequacies of his past to rest... so that both can finally begin to walk the same path together than Deku had always wanted his entire life... Now take this little opinion of mine and compare it to the apology we got in the manga and anime... do you still think that that moment was earned and helped to repair their relationship?
@Mr2dmonkey
@Mr2dmonkey Год назад
Good take. you're making a lot sense than most of these people in this comment section.
@QTRemnant
@QTRemnant Год назад
@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 I still kinda think that version we got was earned, but I do like your take. At the same time though, I just don't think that deku is the type of character to dump everything that he's ever felt on to someone. This is a most likely wrong take from me since I just don't remember him doing something like that. That's all I have to say now, so have a nice day.
@ookami2.0
@ookami2.0 Год назад
@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 I agree with your comment but I think in my opinion that deku shouldn't have forgiven Bakugo yet because it was 10 years to late for that
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71
@@QTRemnant Guess I can't argue too much there, I just think that just because a person doesn't like to unload on other people doesn't mean that keeping things bottled up is healthy, even for a fictional character going through the mother of all rough patches. Anyway, nice day to you too.
@LongXue
@LongXue 7 месяцев назад
Ok, so I was not the only anime only watcher who thought that 'is that it?' for the Vigilante arc of Deku... manga readers were hyping it down to the last second after the war arc... so my expectations were there.. and granted the fight scenes were cool and some might even be some of the best in the anime, but it felt like the whole Vigilante arc was going upwards into a climax, but then you realized this is the climax and it suddenly ended... it's like a riding a rollercoaster and you're climbing up only to realize once you're at the top that's were the ride ends and you're actually not sliding down...
@darkwinter2009
@darkwinter2009 7 месяцев назад
Well, the thing is I absolutely agree with you. Don't get me wrong, I personally love Vigilante Deku and he looks awesome. But the only problem I see with this arc is Deku VS Class 1a because it arrived way to early in the story. I wish Horikoshi actually gave more time to develop this arc so Deku can finally be developed into his own character. Seriously though, we got some cool action fight scenes and it felt good seeing Deku become an entirely different person than he was a couple of seasons ago. But the problem with this arc in general is the wasted potential of Deku as a character. At this point, Horikoshi just wants to be done with MHA and nothing more.
@nothingtoseehere8771
@nothingtoseehere8771 7 месяцев назад
As a manga reader it wasn't any better there either. I have no idea why some people were hyping it up.
@DeertickDaniel
@DeertickDaniel 5 месяцев назад
Yeah I was expecting so much from vigilante deku but when I got to it it just felt like a kid ran away from home to the nearest playground then got picked up by his parents 4 hours later then went to bed
@sketchpartz
@sketchpartz Год назад
Don't know about you, but for me I loved the "Vigilante Deku arc", definitively one of my favourite arcs in the entire series, i'm really surprised you preferer the "Joint training arc" more than the "Vigilante Deku arc", but hey! it's your opinion.
@AsarathaHSYT
@AsarathaHSYT Год назад
Hopefully one day I make a video going over my issues with the arc
@marinefart9082
@marinefart9082 Год назад
I enjoyed it at first but when you actually watch it properly there are many holes
@chromulus2225
@chromulus2225 Год назад
Personally I loved the start of the arc, but it just ended in a way that was so unsatisfying. I still like the arc, but man I really wanted some deep introspection from Deku and we just didn't get it :(
@marinefart9082
@marinefart9082 Год назад
@@chromulus2225 I understand how u feel tbh and I hate how there is a lack of acknowledgement from the rest of the cast as students see their teachers DIE IN FRONT OF THEM
@beCoCOi
@beCoCOi Год назад
Talking fast doesn't make you special.
@Haru-vr3ro
@Haru-vr3ro 3 месяца назад
I don't think he talks fast on purpose, I also talk fast and it's normal. He doesn't think he is special, he is only saying his opinion. He has his and you have yours, there's no need to be rude. (Sorry if you can't understand correctly, I'm using Google translate)
@gracjanlekston134
@gracjanlekston134 Год назад
Feels like Asaratha missed his opportunity if he wanted to make content like this. Since the anime has changed the community's perception of this arc drastically.
@ThePickleMenace420
@ThePickleMenace420 Год назад
Fr I’ve heard stories of so many people wanting/getting back into mha because of this arc alone
@Dr._Atom
@Dr._Atom Год назад
@@ThePickleMenace420 only to be disappointed by the recent arc lol
@jeffali5157
@jeffali5157 Год назад
Idk what the anime did differently seeing as nothing was changed or added into a lot.
@felipekane9611
@felipekane9611 Год назад
@@Dr._Atom what disappointment? These arcs were amazing.
@spider1266
@spider1266 Год назад
​@@jeffali5157 Yet people loved it
@aozorahaou2643
@aozorahaou2643 2 месяца назад
I honestly wish this arc was a hybrid of canon and filler, as a kong arc exploring Deku's descent into the darkness of loneliness to protect his loved ones thus bringing proper build up to Class 1-A saving him. Delve into the flaws of the life of a vigilante, what a man has to go through, what mindset he has to enter to face that path, show at times Deku can hesitate wondering if he made a mistake, but presses on stubbornly, maybe occassionally run into some classmates here and there who try to convince him to come home before the big fight.
@DraconicInsomniac9815
@DraconicInsomniac9815 Год назад
Can totally see where you're coming from. I love this arc, but I can have problems with it. I know I really wished we got to see Deku unlock smokescreen, Fa Jin, and then train with them in some way rather then just having a good enough hand on them. I also think it's too short, and would've loved to see Deku vs Class 1-a have 2 battles. The first being where Deku gets away from them, and the second being the first, heck, maybe Endeavor and the others try and stop him after round 1.
@mickwoodfield9980
@mickwoodfield9980 Год назад
I like it to because for me now that I think about it deku never really faced any real psychological conflict true becoming the new all might was something he had to go through but I don’t really count that and I feel the Dark Hero Arc was Deku’s true Physiological conflict because he’s at the lowest of the low he abandons everyone even all might and in a way abandons the identity of Izuku Midoriya becoming a shell of the person he once was and even though it is for a good reason to see them all happy. So in also another way the Dark Hero Arc was Deku’s Daredevil season 3
@DraconicInsomniac9815
@DraconicInsomniac9815 Год назад
@@mickwoodfield9980 👍🏼
@darkwinter2009
@darkwinter2009 Год назад
Honestly I get all you're points, but this arc right here is downright my favorite because we finally get to see Deku experimented as a character and his vigilante form looks fire. It looks goated. Although I do have a few problems: 1. I would've liked it if there has been a chapter dedicated to where the students and teachers mourn the loss of Midnight. There, it would make us remember Midnight much more. 2. Deku isn't really a vigilante since he has a license. But whatever, if you want to call him "Vigilante Deku", then alright. Also I respect you're opinion and it's fine if you don't like My Hero Academia. I know it's not the best well written series. But you're MHA videos look awesome and I'll be sure to check them out myself. :)
@famousfox6318
@famousfox6318 Год назад
he's not saying he doesn't like MHA, he quite literally giving a constructive take ( could we call this scrutiny???) on a arc. Simply put it, if you like it base on how you feel that's fine but going through from a narrative perspective will always take precedence. As much as i myself enjoy this arc, one thing ill not regard as good is the abrupt and erratic switches in time and lack of detail given to him improving his innate abilties and character. No inner conflict, growth in ideology or nuance to how he is developing ( side characters aside) as he is, just a radicalised altruistic hero who wants to remove everything to save everything.
@darkwinter2009
@darkwinter2009 Год назад
​​@Roberto The Super Mutant What? I'm just giving my opinion. That's all
@darkwinter2009
@darkwinter2009 Год назад
​@@famousfox6318 Yeah I know bruh
@spuddyuwu2650
@spuddyuwu2650 Год назад
your* also i see you dissing one piece on your channel L
@HeyVerdel
@HeyVerdel Год назад
I couldn't agree more on the Midnight take. Midnight was one of my top 5 favorite hero and, yes, a little bit because of how they sexualize her but it's because although she is sexualized a lot, she actually does her job of being a hero. She's a hero that likes showing off her body but when she needs to be a hero she acts like a hero. Midnight will definitely be remembered for me but I full on agree that she would be more remembered if they gave her a moment where everyone mourn over Midnight and even a few other hero's that lost their life.
@iheartluffy1996
@iheartluffy1996 Год назад
Here y’all go
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 Год назад
honestly i found the villain hunt arc really enjoyable and am not saying that because it was only "raw" moments i found good writting in this arc PERSONALLY but even then this video does say some of my problems with this arc, the all might and deku meeting,class 1As reactions, hawks wings and bakugos apology to a extend i dont really think dekus character was "bastardized" or "ruined" per say but i 100% agree he SHOULD have more of a POV i PERSONALLY believe he has more stuff in act 3 ( i feel like me saying that rised some eyebrows) but at the same time his character devolpment feels "shackled"? i do believe his trauma is shown in his moment when he sees bakugos corpses (and the anime exclusive moment) but damn i miss the interactions between the kids but again thats just my opinion great video! you did a amazong job covering some of my problems with the arc!
@rodrigoa.m3566
@rodrigoa.m3566 Год назад
You seem very defensive of your point of view, friend. Don't be! We already know it's your opinion, we already know you PERSONALLY think this by merit of the fact that you're posting it yourself in the first place. Cheers, be more confident!
@AgentNero9
@AgentNero9 Год назад
@@rodrigoa.m3566 "You seem very defensive of your point of view, " yeah thats my fault 😅 i got insulted and got into arguement a few times because i said my opinion in these types of videos because i kinda have a more positive few on mha then most but you know what your right! i should be more confident in myself, i just get a little anxeious because how much people can be aggressive, of course i dont think peopel are ALL like this, just a few bad apples but again thank you! your comment made me smile
@rodrigoa.m3566
@rodrigoa.m3566 Год назад
@@AgentNero9 I'm glad to know :) with that, you bring a smile to me as well
@NA-ud6qm
@NA-ud6qm 4 месяца назад
Ehhh, I keep seeing the comments just defend Deku and one or two comments say: "Finally, I agree", but I just think, personally, that the War Arc and the Vigilante arc is just bad/rushed writing. I'm not saying this to be mean or to discredit people's taste in anime shows. People can like what they like and I say this as someone who will finish MHA when the next season comes out. However, when I look back on both the war arc and the vigilante arc, I just see both arcs with bad writing. Sure, there are good points to the arcs, but, as an average anime goer that has invested time into MHA, I can point out the flaws that really bug me greatly in both arcs and I honestly believe that is just bad/rushed writing. I don't blame Horikoshi entirely, he could be on a rushed schedule, but I am allowed to look at something I enjoy watching and say: "This could have been done much better."
@AbStar_xx
@AbStar_xx Год назад
I loved this arc. The excitement of reading the manga when it was being released, the wonderful way it was animated despite the flaws…But yes, it was too short.
@CreativeNia
@CreativeNia 7 месяцев назад
I agree, I love this arc so much I wish it was longer :(
@josueurias7805
@josueurias7805 Год назад
I’m satisfied sooooooooooooo ya😅
@user-zv9es6so8u
@user-zv9es6so8u 2 месяца назад
My biggest issue here is that For an Arc that is Named ‘Dark Deku’. Midoriya himself feels way too…Restrained. Like I’m not saying that he should Start brutalizing or killing people but I feel like he should be way more Spiteful and Even Pissed at the world throughout the Arc. Maybe like,Deku always Had these thoughts but The people Of UA(both whom he looked up to and Looked up to him) kept his Rage in check. But now that they aren’t here,He lets out those feelings in the most cathartic way he can. Beating up People. And more dangerously People that by some means Deserve it. Deku has always been a characters that has this very Raw and Almost Unabashed Rage(Like in his Fight with Shoto,or his fight with overhaul and more recently aginst Shigaraki and late AFO) And it has always felt like an Anger that isn’t just something of the moment,But its something that Feels that it comes from the depts of his soul. But no,Deku Has to be the Good Boi even when he Doesn’t have to be
@gp-1542
@gp-1542 Год назад
they REALLY need to slow down and take time to really process everything around them and just "lol lets just rap this up and move on"
@MstarSmith
@MstarSmith 7 месяцев назад
Personally I find it sad MHA is still being adapted into an anime whereas there are so many other mangas that truly deserve it instead.
@darkwinter2009
@darkwinter2009 7 месяцев назад
It's not completely MHA's fault. MHA has over 400 chapters and the story has been dragged out for way too long. Honestly, MHA used to be peak but the series began to fall off when the war arc premiered. It honestly fell off when Stars And Stripes VS Shigaraki occured.
@NA-ud6qm
@NA-ud6qm 4 месяца назад
What do you recommend?
@aceknight6622
@aceknight6622 Год назад
while this season had its issues(i agree with most of ur points) i still think its easily the best. story issues aside it had alot of great moments. one of my favorite moments being ochacos speech(literally brought a tear to my eye) also about the whole dekus body being fine point the idea is that it was only harming his body becasue his body wasn't used to the OFA keep in mind all might was quirkless too so using logic his body had to have suffered when he overused it too right? only reason i can think of to be the case is that his body got used to ofa and ofa became his quirk rather then a borrowed power(thats what i concluded). the problem is how it was executed. other then that and some of what you alrealdy spoke about this season was pretty good. also with ochacco being tired she just gave a big ass speech so making her tired seems reasonable
@themcdonut9602
@themcdonut9602 Год назад
im sorry but i don't think that you could possible agree with and acknoledge all of his points and still think this arc is the best, without thinking the rest of the series is total dogshit
@itsjustvin7630
@itsjustvin7630 Год назад
@@themcdonut9602 actually you can
@aceknight6622
@aceknight6622 Год назад
@@themcdonut9602 agree might have been the wrong word more like understand? I agree with most though. this arc simply kept me interested the most and I finished it not satisfied but content. i enjoyed it. even if.it has all these flaws I still enjoyed this season alot maybe it was because these aren't a big deal to me or maybe I just didn't notice them but I enjoyed this season more then all the others. plus as a anime only(now manga I started reading it) I have been excited for villginte deku for years. season 2 was the best and my favorite before this. however after finishing this season I came out happy with what i watched. sure the season may not be perfect but I enjoyed it so for me it's the best. you can agree with others and still have ur own opinion
@dflaming1371
@dflaming1371 Год назад
And you've hit my point in the head. Mha is officially riding on big, flashy, emotional MOMENTS because we love the story and characters build pre s4. Everything in between is empty, flat, and noncohesive
@aceknight6622
@aceknight6622 Год назад
@@dflaming1371 can't tell of ur agreeing or not but I agree with this stayement
@NotAnIlluminatiSpy
@NotAnIlluminatiSpy Год назад
idk...To me it felt like they were speed running this shit.
@konnerlathrop5221
@konnerlathrop5221 4 месяца назад
I dont see it as a failure. At the end of this arc there are only three days left to find them so everyone inciding deku and all the pro heros are in a rush to fins AFO to gwt rid of him, and the students and deku know this so they dont have the time to process the emotions there faced with. And deku has had that wreckless drive since the begining when he tryed to save bakugo from the sludge villan. When he went off on his own he wasnt thinking of himself he was thinking of his friends and family, and while pushing himself to find AFO he was trying to unlock more power cause of the short amount of time. And at the end evwryone ine was way to worn out to talk through all there emotions. Same with all might. None of them have time. I belive after the defent AFO they will habe this hidge emotional crash after everything settles down.
@lesterlacy8722
@lesterlacy8722 Год назад
I absolutely loved Dis Season
@deltadove741
@deltadove741 Год назад
I Liked it, I watched through it and enjoyed the moments, Art and Character Changes. To each their own.
@geigercourtier
@geigercourtier 5 месяцев назад
I didn’t. MHA felt like fast food served at a sit in restaurant and prefer to enjoy a savory homemade meal.
@deltadove741
@deltadove741 5 месяцев назад
@@geigercourtier And you’re fair to have that opinion, I thought it was fun, it had flaws don’t get me wrong but I wasn’t really invested anyways so the problems didn’t matter to me since I just kinda watched it to watch something.
@vg-_-universal8283
@vg-_-universal8283 Год назад
It was ok everything you mentioned is fair points but I casually read it and it was alright the only part of it I really liked was the choreography and fighting of the lady nagant fight but I didn’t notice any of the problems you mentioned in this video upon first reading
@shocknawe
@shocknawe Год назад
Mate, this is the anime where the training was “how about instead of focusing all power on one limb you...concentrate less AND spread it out?” and this BRILLIANT and NOT OBVIOUS realisation because the MC kept on BREAKING arms from punches. Also: we literally have rewind healing atm in the story. No injuries matter. Aizawa couldn't even hold a flashback to her before cutting his own leg off. We aren't even allowed to maybe be surprised for forgetting the ultra healing for a second.
@creed8712
@creed8712 Год назад
Congrats, you’ve taken your first step into western comics where a guy just “needs to run faster” and heroes get out into healing comas all the time
@Kuro_690
@Kuro_690 10 месяцев назад
Lmfao, he didn't have a flashback of Eri because of her "healing" he remembered Eri because if he died in the war, he would make Eri fall into depression like his friend did after he saved him and sacrificed himself. Lmfao, there's no way some people think Aizawa had that flashback because of Eri's healing ability from her quirk 😂🙏
@presidentialkingdom2201
@presidentialkingdom2201 Год назад
Man I hate the anime community 😅 everything I enjoy everyone else seems to hate. I guess I’m just weird. This was one of my favourite arcs I ever watched in any anime…I don’t get it.
@blessingrakoma4693
@blessingrakoma4693 Год назад
It's not really that they hate it. I also like the arc not gonna lie it's pretty good. What he's ranting about is how this arc kinda fails to build off the loss and action that happened in the previous arc. It's just mainly been about cool sequences and moments but doesn't focus on all the consequences. I do love Midoroya's growth and stuff but it feels like they forgetting alot of things that happened in previous arcs which we were expecting to be resolved in Villian hunt.
@mayadhawad807
@mayadhawad807 Год назад
Sammmmee idk y but ppl alway like to focus on the negative side always they won’t look on the positive side just did u enjoyed it?? If u did enjoy it then I find that it’s successful regardless of the negative things in it, and I can see that you all really enjoy it, but all you do is just focusing on the negative points, just compare the positive points with the negative ones, and you will see that the positive points are much more than the negative ones. There is no perfect series from all sides always People just like to come and spoil the series with their useless comments. What does not make any work successful is because of people's different tastes, so please be grateful for the work without criticizing it because I am sure that every writer has his own style of writing and every writer cares about people's opinions And every writer wants his story to succeed, so please focus on the positive points more than the negative ones and be more grateful for the work.
@scottvgamer1163
@scottvgamer1163 Год назад
You aren’t alone in this. It’s so strange to me how my top two favorite series (MHA and Bleach) also just happen to be two of the most hated and slandered series of all time. I know they aren’t perfect, but NO series is perfect.
@mayadhawad807
@mayadhawad807 Год назад
@@scottvgamer1163 like some ppl just piss me off with their offensive comments about the work. There are some people who do not like anything and there is nothing that fills their eyes, no matter how good the work is.
@noisepollution4473
@noisepollution4473 Год назад
RU-vidr: Watches 6 seasons of anime, proceeds to talk about it in depth and shows that he truly cares about the material. Cares enough he wishes it was better. Comments: Wow, so negative, why don't you just talk about the positive stuff
@bmebuzz8718
@bmebuzz8718 9 месяцев назад
MHA fans jus ignore writing flaws and inconsistency in motive and literally how Deku hasnt earned shit to be so “powerful” cuz they enjoy how colorful it is or some bullshit
@henrikpekkala7943
@henrikpekkala7943 Год назад
was a amazing arc, comes down to opinion👍
@specialk1538
@specialk1538 Год назад
I think the author should’ve taken an avatar approach, and have Deku unlock a master each of the six powers over the course of the seasons: Season 1. One for all/full cowling 2. Danger sense 3. Smoke screen 4. Float 5. Black whip 6. Fa Jin 7. Gearshift
@firstnamelastname0000
@firstnamelastname0000 Год назад
but he did cool things 🥺
@InAnimated
@InAnimated Год назад
I would've liked it, if he either escaped from his friends the way he was intending to or actually fought them and showed them they genuinely can't keep up, cause fact is they cant. Deku is the only one that can 1v1 shigaraki and survive
@dablackangel
@dablackangel Год назад
Unfortunately I agree with you that I think Horikoshi is rushing the ending. But from what I understand MHA has been a much longer anime than he initially intended. But I agree... I feel like we could have had a few more years / seasons of Deku developing and learning his other quirks. But I wonder if it's because of how Mangakas are treated and that they have absolutely no time to just relax... they are always forced to pump out manga after manga... mental health be damned... so I wonder if he's just tired and trying to finish it as soon as possible... coz even Star and Stripe felt rushed to me. And I agree about the lack of consequences in that more people should have died. Gran Torino and at least one person of Class 1A. Also I hate how quick Mirio got his powers back... all rushed. Also I agree with Horikoshi not just overlooking trauma... however I feel like there is time for that after the War. That when this is all finished they talk about the death they have seen and the collective trauma everyone has experienced. But we will see... I hope he doesn't fumble the ball... but saying that I enjoyed season 6... especially compared with season 5.
@trollof229antthevariable9
@trollof229antthevariable9 Год назад
I was very satisfied tbh
@BigBadDragon777
@BigBadDragon777 Год назад
Well. My only problem with this arc and build is that it's too short. I agree about that but I guess many fans didn't't like it or something. Japanese don't want the others to be left out.😅
@elisamuelorfilarosario4163
@elisamuelorfilarosario4163 Год назад
I still love it🤣🤣🤣🤣
@4080RTXMobileGamer
@4080RTXMobileGamer Год назад
Think the problem is that we're supposed to feel bad for Midoriya cause the plot told us to. WE didn't really see this dude soloing it for months with no rest against multiple villains, we see him fight 2 or 3 villains and now its a month and he is tired and depressed. So the struggle we see feels kinda empty as we are only really seeing the results of that struggle
@anthonybarnes706
@anthonybarnes706 7 месяцев назад
All your points are very good and make sense. I do resonate with the same ideas that Midoriya has let himself become a tool and lost a sense of introspection. The power progression is also wild, although it’s something that I kind of saw coming and don’t really mind too much. Definitely the most egregious issue for me was how the characters kind of felt disconnected from their environment to a degree after the war.
@darkwinter2009
@darkwinter2009 7 месяцев назад
For me, the most heartbreaking part of this arc was that fact that Class 1a came right after Deku. Like the arc was so short, we only got to see a little bit of Dark Deku. Like seriously, the arc should have been longer, and this should have been used to develop Deku as a character. The last time Deku had development was like when? I think it was somewhere 3 seasons ago.
@lazygan8576
@lazygan8576 Год назад
Unlike most people In these comments I agree. It's tiring for me, seeing so many previous plot points and character threads rushed or suddenly not cared about. It very much has me lose interest, and doesn't truly make the world feel real. It's sloppy and inconsistent for me. Still a fine arc I suppose, but basically everything you said is something I felt before this video even came out. This arc continued my falling off of mha. Yes, I'm caught up with the manga, no that stuff hasn't changed too much how I feel.
@BlackOwlMage
@BlackOwlMage Год назад
Vigilante Arc was raw I literally saw no issues with it
@jeffali5157
@jeffali5157 Год назад
First half was raw but the second half was way too rushed and ended underwhelmingly when there were plans for a lot more and bringing Deku back to his old self and all ok really wasn’t ideal especially after everything he went through and what happens later on really makes it all the more baffling on how this got rushed thanks to the bad editor among other things
@ChrisTookFlight
@ChrisTookFlight Год назад
Facts
@gooduserm.a.a.dinternet1228
Did you watch the video or comment before watching it
@ellusiv5121
@ellusiv5121 Год назад
maybe watch the video still
@ClavinZKL
@ClavinZKL Год назад
@@jeffali5157 the manga itself is kinda being rushed, because its reaching the end of mha i think none of these things where planned ahead of time and thats why its being rushed, next season is gonna bbe rushed too so prepare for tht..
@camenji6756
@camenji6756 Год назад
I think it was the best arc we've had in my hero academia in the anime for ages, maybe ever, the way they made the show look felt perfect for the arc and set the mood really well. My problem with cour 1 of s6 and all of s5 was that it felt like something big was missing, whereas in the Manga it felt so much more horrific and serious, I think it could have been the use of bright color that made it feel like the horrific scenes were much less emotional. The vigilante arc fixed this problem with the art style and more muted colors.
@Green-Hybrid3017
@Green-Hybrid3017 2 месяца назад
It may not have been perfect, but I still enjoyed it. I wish it could’ve lasted longer. Maybe a whole season. 🖤❤💚
@samflood5631
@samflood5631 9 месяцев назад
The only thing I liked about this arc is Lady Nagant.
@psrkives
@psrkives Год назад
I used stopped reading the manga before this Arc. I also watched a video before about the flaws of this arc as well, and I just lost interest after watching that and I was more disappointed when I watched this video. I mean, quirks and fight scenes are cool and all but there's also a lot that the author left out and missed to address. I was still thinking of continuing the manga, but I'll just drop it.
@timzyt63
@timzyt63 5 месяцев назад
Izuku Midoriya didn't fail as a character for me. Especially not in this arc
@SkullyX99
@SkullyX99 7 месяцев назад
That was why I fell off MHA. There weren't any consequences so I was just detached the entire time. Why get emotionally invested if the stakes aren't legit? If all I wanted was spectacle, I'd watch Dragon Ball Z or Super.
@deadgowr8958
@deadgowr8958 Год назад
I don't really read the manga, i like the anime adaptation better, so I'm not sure whats different, but I'm pretty sure they said they killed Stain and one of his ribs punctured his lung at the end of his arc, and had to say that endeavor killed him. but then he just comes back to talk to allmight, a little wierd to me. Besides that my favorite part was Eraserhead's few scenes during the Shigaraki fight, Manuel watering his eyes was so cute, and he cut his damn leg off. pretty badass
@theradionicrevival8068
@theradionicrevival8068 Год назад
Um, we watchin the same show? Hardly anyone ever dies in mha and stain was shown to be alive and in jail tons of times in the anime and manga after his arc He’s definitely not dead.
@thebardofhearts3449
@thebardofhearts3449 Год назад
Never watched a second of MHA but I’m here so I don’t make the same mistakes with my writing and creative projects
@IrregularPie
@IrregularPie Год назад
Nice :D
@wimvangeffen4528
@wimvangeffen4528 Год назад
I personally do not agree but I understand the criticism but I liked this arc and I think it did a good job at developing the mha world and showing us how Japan is affected
@leroyngwenya7095
@leroyngwenya7095 2 месяца назад
I remember way back before this arc had an anime adaptation, Manga readers were hyping this up like it was the next shibuya incident.... Im very disappointed
@juliusbossman7280
@juliusbossman7280 6 месяцев назад
The Dark Hero Arc should've delivered with its name. Have Deku be a brutal anti hero that seriously injuries any villain he finds but it isn't played for a power fantasy. The arc antagonist could be some normal person that sees Izuku hurting people as wrong and tries to stop him. Have him face someone that sees Izuku as a villain and it makes Deku remember why he wanted to become a hero in the first place, be a Symbol of Peace and not intimidate people to being good
@ThatLeadZebra
@ThatLeadZebra Год назад
Interesting. I honestly loved it, there are faults but I was so hyped up by the end and loved how they handled things and can't wait to see what happens next. For me every episode made me excited for the next :P
@clovercalloway
@clovercalloway Год назад
I honestly need more people with your hype. Would love to discuss some MHA/anime related stuff. And yeah, I loved this arc. Of course, a point I'd get would be the execution failing in some aspects, because honestly the idea (Deku leaving and his dark arc) was good and made sense. Better stop here before I make a whole essay but yeah, I agree. ☘︎
@ThatLeadZebra
@ThatLeadZebra Год назад
@@clovercalloway Generally feel like you can nit pick anything (youtube kinda seems to push negativity and nit picking which is such a shame), we never really talk about how awesome things are and MHA is so awesome! :D I have Discord, Idk if you can private message me on youtube but I love hearing people's opinions and gush about stuff we like :)
@ThatLeadZebra
@ThatLeadZebra Год назад
@@clovercalloway I sent you a friend DM :) It will have zebra in it
@t20bry33
@t20bry33 Год назад
Honestly this was my favorite arc
@MaineSoSavage
@MaineSoSavage Год назад
Although i enjoyed the Dark Hero Arc i can stand by a lot of the content of this video i've always thought that the arc was way too short and it should've added more time for the cast to reflect more on what went wrong in their respective journeys a bit more in depth i hate how major plot points that involved destructive or morally gray actions within the cast were just completely accepted by the main cast without a mention but if Deku could've had even a little more introspection and not have just flipped his switch into normal mode after an Iida handshake just feels too rushed for me I think the class should've failed to reach Deku the first time & forced Deku to realize his bad habits on his own after seeing how him putting himself in danger affects his loved ones & that would also give other cast members more time to reflect & converse with each other over the recent plot points from the war then we could get the Deku save scene but that's just fan fiction cuz i wanted this arc to be even more personal for Deku & the cast Hori at least should've added another arc before the final battle arc because i can't help but feel the transition from the Dark Hero Arc was really rushed
@thecronometro3375
@thecronometro3375 Год назад
I love MHA, the Dark Deku or Vigilante arc used to be one of my favourites in the entire manga, and seeing it animated really increased my love for the arc. However, after watching this video, i can totally agree with a lot of your points, and see all the flaws that this arc has. Although I dont considerate it to be one of the worst arcs (not even close), i can know see that it isnt as perfect or as good in terms of quality and content as I thought, its Coolness and Epic stuff for the most. I always thought Horikoshi really accelerated the course of events in the history after the War arc. I really wanted the "Vigilante Arc" to last a little bit longer, just to see Deku fighting and learning how to use his quirks prior the Lady Nagant fight, because i really felt that the way Deku adapt to his new quirks was waaaaay to fast. But after listening to your points, i really see how much potential this arc wasted by making things happen so fast. Like you said, the characters in My Hero Academia felt real in the previous arcs, and seeing how all the events that happened after the war really didnt make them different, its kinda stupid. I especially agree with how the OFA reveal was really dissapointing.It's like the only reason to do this was to make the Pro Heros understand quickly the importance of Deku and to make the history go from act 2 to act 3 without further problems. We didnt see the reactions of Class 1A, what they would think about Midoriya after knowing that he literally had All Might's power. I wanted them to feel sad or angry to Midoriya to keeping this secrets (Even though Shoto said something about feeling angry that Midoriya didnt tell him his secret, it really isnt enough). I even think that some of the students could feel envy and demerit Midoriya for having a Quirk that makes him literally All Might, making all his achievements be less thanks to his ingenuity and hardwork, and more to the quirk. This could even trigger characters like Ochaco, Iida, Todoroki and Bakogou to defend Deku, especially Bakugou since he has seen just how mucho Deku has changed and has work, and how he doesnt care about himself and is willing to sacriffice his dream to fulfill OFA mission. This would've added a lot of content to the class 1-A. We could've seen this in any moment of the arc, heck, even at the start of the Dark Deku arc, when everyone read Midoriya's letter. This comment is already way too long, but i want to say that i also agree with you in how Deku should've had some introspection and more time to think about Bakugou's apology. Even though im sad for all this missed potential. I still like and enjoy the Dark Deku arc, and even with all his flaws, i think Deku is a great character and i really love him. Dark Deku is not the worst arc in MHA, it can feel that way by seeing how much potential it wasted, a thing this video really demonstrates.
@sgdpushaa3232
@sgdpushaa3232 Год назад
Wrong about the stakes part I feel like because all might had a stomach injury and he didn't die and deku's durability and his acclimation to one for all just went up at least that's how I see it I mean plenty of stories have lessened their stakes so bad to specific dragon ball but it never harmed their stakes long term and there is a lot more amalgamation of problems with dbz but still ppl love it
@FlipBoji
@FlipBoji Год назад
You have such strong, well thought-out, solid points it’s hard to disagree with you lol, and yet this show created such a complex story and history, however, the characters seem to skip exposition for the sake of nothing. Endeavor has literally done illegal things to his wife and kids, yet no one gave a shit. There’s absolutely no trauma or lingering trauma from other things, which takes away the potential depth this show could have. It’s fun it’s shonen, so it’s simple. What can ya do?
@NA-ud6qm
@NA-ud6qm 4 месяца назад
Finally, someone with a working brain in this comments section. Honestly, everyone's standards in story-telling is actually concerning, at this point. You can love a story but still say: "Hey, this story is still bad/could have been written better."
@FlipBoji
@FlipBoji 4 месяца назад
@@NA-ud6qm yeah, you can’t just write fucked up shit and have your characters forget about it lol
@orb3tnl
@orb3tnl Год назад
I feel like any arc that even slightly touches more depressing or darker moments in mha the anime tries its hardest to skip past it or gloss over it like they did in mva arc
@GUYFROMEldos
@GUYFROMEldos 7 месяцев назад
It was too short probably why a movie is being made as well I mean it's not like hori was being put under pressure by that editor he had at the time to essentially rush into the final(still baffling how when the editor changed hori has done his best to get back to where it was heading and he has done it truly one of the best final arcs in my opinion with everything it was building up towards and even gave characters like Shoji great character moments and growth a 8 out of ten)
@nightbrand8016
@nightbrand8016 Год назад
My problem with the arc was thanks to a misunderstanding of what was coming due to the fanbase. Everyone spoke do highly of the upcoming "vigilante" arc. So my expectations were for a Deku that was crueler, alone, and chased by the heroes. I wanted him to do things that he somewhat regretted and learn from his regrets. So I was definitely underwhelmed when he was basically no more than a sadboi who wouldn't let anyone love and support him
@Lumberjack_king
@Lumberjack_king 11 месяцев назад
I mean yeah “vigilante arc” is definitely misleading
@wizardwolf1020
@wizardwolf1020 10 месяцев назад
@@Lumberjack_kingit’s very misleading. It makes them think he’s leaving behind the flawed hero system that largely caused a lot of these problems and doing away with being an enforcer of the system and government and instead doing what he believes is morally right. But instead, he’s just being an antisocial workaholic who pushes everyone away to go solo
@Lumberjack_king
@Lumberjack_king 10 месяцев назад
@@wizardwolf1020 ok
@aceclover758
@aceclover758 Год назад
Midnight’s death was so glossed over, it was insulting. Seeing people say this arc is “so dark” is laughable since no one noteworthy but Midnight died Bakagou serves no other purpose in the story and hasn’t for a while. He is a weakling compared to the top now and Deku. He could’ve served a better character dying sacrifice himself to Deku We shouldve seen these other heros with names, but side characters die in droves during the Decay Wave If you didnt wanna touch class 1-A fine but even someone from class B losing their lives wouldve had a great effect. Kendo, Pony, even Momura
@thedestroyer5794
@thedestroyer5794 6 месяцев назад
Midnight died? I completely forgot 💀
@xironheadx-4590
@xironheadx-4590 6 месяцев назад
​@@thedestroyer5794exactly
@kai4344
@kai4344 6 месяцев назад
can't really kill monoma off that easily cuz he's the reason why shigaraki didn't instantly one shot the entire verse yet
@kai4344
@kai4344 6 месяцев назад
@@thedestroyer5794 the most irrelevant death in all of mha. I probably would've been a little more sad if it was gran torino dying or even all might dying in the final war arc but nah bakugo wakes up from being dead and gets saved by edgeshot, gets a powerup and goes on to fight against prime afo
@ViciousVitiate
@ViciousVitiate Год назад
Honestly i think if they fully jumped in and had deku fully fall to despair and give it all up to do what he feels like a has to that could be oretty good. Riding the line and not commiting to anything makes it extra weak.
@lunasquib
@lunasquib Год назад
It’s so interesting how no one cared about Midnight’s death? I was very sad but the series gave me very little time to care
@blayde2381
@blayde2381 Год назад
I think the entirety of act 3 of this series is being rushed. This arc is one of my favorites but it could have been the best if it wasn't limited to like 15 chapters. Characters should have had time to reflect on Dekus choice and not just be introduced when he needs to be saved. We should have seen more scenarios where deku is the only hero able to fight since Hawks got burned, Endeavor is traumatized, and other heroes are retiring left and right. I love this arc and what deku is in this arc. We just needed more time to let it all cook correctly
@evanhu2661
@evanhu2661 Год назад
Perfect arc. Dekus style is sick. Stain coming full circle with all might was sick.
@carlosavitia3623
@carlosavitia3623 Год назад
bro did not watch the video😭
@Forit26
@Forit26 Год назад
Perfect how?😭, Bro’s vigilante arc lasted three days💀
@wheatflavoredicecream6863
@wheatflavoredicecream6863 Год назад
@@Forit26it went on for a couple weeks at least dude shigaraki went from needing 4 months of training to get afo's full power and by the end of this arc it was 2 or 3 days
@Jerome7-v5u
@Jerome7-v5u Год назад
@@Forit26 Naruto war arc lasted 2 days
@Forit26
@Forit26 Год назад
@@Jerome7-v5u Yes but that arc didn’t HAVE to last long for it to have add to the plot, deku’s arc did
@CheetahTheCat
@CheetahTheCat Год назад
I liked how the arc was going but it ended so abruptly and sorta just felt like everything got resolved without any effort.
@theduelist92
@theduelist92 6 месяцев назад
The aftermath of the Dabi reveal felt flat to me when i watched it for the first time, and at first i though it was because i already knew about Dabi thanks to spoilers but the real reason why i didnt really care is that no one in the show really cared. I love Endeavor, it's easily my favourite part of MHA and one of the main reasons i haven't dropped the series yet, mabye it's me watching MHA in my 30s but watching the actual redemption arc of an adult that made all the wrong choices guided only by it's drive to be the best (wich is often the exclusively positive drive of MCs) really hits home, and his whole character arc is so dense. But then he's exposed nation wide, people in theyr home make some snarky comments during the war, and... nothing, everyone is cool with him now. The war was good but in order to work it had to botch many characters and plot points, from Hawks (wich i also really liked but i though could've used a bit more time in the spotlight before and after the Twice incident) to the whole 1A class to goddamn Milio showing up outta nowhere in a way that made me seriously check multiple times if i skipped an episode or two...
@noisepollution4473
@noisepollution4473 8 месяцев назад
I think I would have enjoyed Season 6 a whole lot more if I wasn't still actively bummed out about Season 5. I very much disliked Deku suddenly getting new powers. I understand why he got them, it was kind of necessary with how long the show/manga was getting; there are only so many variations on super strength you can use before even that gets eye-roll-inducing, but up to that point, Horikoshi had done such a PHENOMENAL job at slowly developing Deku's power. It felt weird for his next development to just be getting entirely new powers. Again, I understand why he wrote it that way, it just put a bad taste in my mouth regardless. I also have not found any of the villains interesting except Stain and Twice. Overhaul I thought was fantastic as a villain, but only because he was so spectacularly evil and absurdly powerful that he was the most ominous force I had felt in the show up to that point. Yes, I know, AFO is more powerful by leaps and bounds, but the particular kind of menace Overhaul brought to the table was very much my jam. That said, I didn't like him because I found his point of view interesting, I liked him as a villain because he was a piece of garbage. Same goes for every other villain. So when we got an entire arc of backstories for villains who I only liked as villains, not as characters, I got pretty bored of the show. So when things started to finally focus back on Deku, my negativity from the previous material wouldn't shake off and I just found myself unable to get hyped for any of it. Until Uraraka's speech, of course. That felt earned and was well written.
@sierraj1589
@sierraj1589 8 месяцев назад
I agree with most of your points. This arc felt weak and I couldn’t explain why other than it felt super rushed and not fleshed out. Thanks for breaking it down!
@Deathclaw-lh5tl
@Deathclaw-lh5tl Год назад
One of the biggest questions I've been asking was: Where's Moonfish? I mean, you can't exactly ignore one of the deadliest of the VASLV second only to Muscular. I've reached the end of season 6 and reached the end of MVA of the manga, and this is something I need to know.
@twicejaeger6997
@twicejaeger6997 Год назад
He is gonna show up in the final war arc helping the villains, he only gets a few panels though
@tabithatalon4490
@tabithatalon4490 Год назад
I honestly think that Hori is going to let Izuku reflect while fighting and ending the fight. Its rushed and too late but he might just do that.
@Bori.1776
@Bori.1776 Год назад
Almost nothing went wrong
@KitsuVT
@KitsuVT Год назад
Honestly I don’t agree, though it was short it was waaaaay more interesting than the others Arcs and we start to see the true atmosphere of what is going on in MHA. Not only that but Dekus Classmates are growing with him now so it’s not just him trying to keep his All Might given power a secret anymore. I respectfully believe that this review undermines a lot of aspects in the Arc.
@asmodeusguys4472
@asmodeusguys4472 Год назад
Alright, then elaborate. What makes this trashy arc so good? That whole point of "his classmates are growing now" is stupid, since all they do in the damn arc is reassure that deku is good, that he doesn't have to be all alone. The damn arc does a bad job with class 1A, since we never actually get an original thought from them, all we get from them is their damn support for deku. We never get any interesting pov moments from the class a characters. They've all got their own shit going on, so focus on that. But nope, it's all izuku this, izuku that, it's annoying. And for the "true atmosphere of mha" wdym by that? Is it supposed to be some take on the society as a whole? The hero commission being all corrupt is stupid, cuz if they wanted to do all that, then actually put some time into it, instead of just making a mention about it. Build it up. Shit just ended up being completely forgotten. The biggest problem with the classmates is that they're just one big hivemind sharing a single damn braincell. They aren't seen as individuals in this thing, just extensions of the damn plot. Real bad arc, worst arc of the series so far.
@ftsar3494
@ftsar3494 Год назад
yoo did you used to mod xenoverse 2?
@papachoppa9223
@papachoppa9223 7 месяцев назад
First biggest fumble in mha, next was the war arc , giving irrelevant ass characters big moments in the series, I love the fact of all mutant type quirk people being discriminated and wanting to have an uprise that could’ve worked so well for shouji if it was introduced in the earlier parts of the story
@Filmsber5
@Filmsber5 Год назад
Agree with absolutely everything said here and truly believe thanks to Bones putting effort (since they did that arc and second core specifically with a lot of care) people tend to overlook all these issues but especially manga readers who know what is about to come can easily see how wasted most characters and plot lines were. Vigilante arc if you don't think long about it and if it was a little bit longer with Izuku interspection would have been absolutely perfect but it is what it is. Won't even talk about Hawks and Endeavor post Dabi reveal because I have never seen the most complicated and interesting characters become such empty puppets of themselves ever before. Thank you for the video. Keep up the great work
@Filmsber5
@Filmsber5 Год назад
And also mha is much more enjoyable as a casual fan who is not paying too much attention or try to analyze things on a deeper level which is why a lot of anime fans liked it. People who are more invested and connected to the story tend to see the weaknesses more especially if everything they liked about the series before is getting butchered. As a manga reader having seen the current state of it I will forever beg for Horikoshi to never try to involve any social commentary because (SPOILER) the mutant stuff has been the absolutely worst writing in any shounen I have ever read and the last maybe 20 chapters have been so incredibly boring that the fandom is not even talking about their theories or character analysis anymore - they just talking which useless character will get a 2 chapter cameo and then never to be heard from again. Most boring arc and it's a shame never would have thought this is what we would end up with
@Regrettable-Username
@Regrettable-Username 7 месяцев назад
7:08 So glad you pointed this out! I was waiting for at least 1 scene where Hawks would have an internal struggle about the information. Because on the one hand, he's looked up to Endeavor since childhood because he arrested Hawk's abusive father. But on the other hand, he just learned that his hero had abused his own sons. How do you deal with that? I know they're both professionals, #1 and #2 in Japan after all, but working together now has to be a tense situation...
@randompolygon8401
@randompolygon8401 Год назад
I just can't agree with most things here. I think the biggest reason the characters don't have moments like that as much as before, is purely because for the first time ever in the series, there is no down time. their personal problems are simply not important enough for them to start thinking about them at this very moment. all the moments you did mention happen in training arcs, times before operation, not in the middle of a disaster. it's actually the same in real life. the hawk thing I just think you are straight up wrong on. the implication is that just like nagant, hawk has been doing stuff like this for a long time. the twice scene was just meant to fully showcase that to the audience. and we have dove plenty into the morality of hawks as a whole. his contrast with nagant was pure perfection for showing how exactly his actions affect him. he isn't dumbed down, the hawk vs twice was just never meant to be his turning point from his perspective. I do agree with decu's character progression though. and that is my only problem with this arc. It just feels like the author was planning for a longer story when they started, but at some point decided to make it shorter which made them have too somehow fasten decu's power progression. I don't like the fact that the author completely messed up the character progression, but if they had to do it, I say they did a solid job making it hurt the arc as little as possible. I for one liked this arc just as much as, if not more than the first one this season. decu vs class 1A. and the lovely lady nagant were 2 of my favorite episodes in the series, and my top 2 episodes this season. and I like "the way to put out a fire" just as much as dabi's dance. and once again I think most of your problems are from this being the only time were the characters didn't get a break. they all seemed like a goodness hivemind that helps decu, because at this very moment that was simply the most important thing. and similar reasoning can be applied to 90% of your problems. I'm not a manga reader though, so maybe I'll change my mind once I see season 7.
@jeffali5157
@jeffali5157 Год назад
Season 7 content wise is gonna be the worst one of them all
@randompolygon8401
@randompolygon8401 Год назад
@@jeffali5157 define "content". with how the story is going, unless there is a major fuck up, I don't see it being weaker than season 5.
@jeffali5157
@jeffali5157 Год назад
@@randompolygon8401 without spoiling, they rushed way too much, even more than now with Deku coming back to his old self way too fast, they added some of the most questionable/irritating moments, made a lot of bad narrative decisions, plot points having little to no buildup at all, and more. It’s gonna be a major fuck up.
@zechariahcaraballo8765
@zechariahcaraballo8765 Год назад
They clearly want to make my heros pacing better than other anime like the big 3, but they don't seem to know when to slow it down, this could have been longer to show how these events effected people and how they grow from it and to see more character interactions but they kept at their 25 episode pase for no real reason other than consistency I guess, they should have done something longer like the big 3 and other anime ppl like to complain about at least 10 more episodes would have been nice
@ongoingsky9347
@ongoingsky9347 Год назад
I really hate that MHA is being rushed to its end. There’s still so much to explore and expand on. But the anime industry wants its next factory cut&paste isekai cash grab so I guess this series is on the chopping block.
@ericlammers3492
@ericlammers3492 Год назад
Well… who knows we might still see a little more. U never know.
@mr.regular589
@mr.regular589 8 месяцев назад
Well the thing is, shonen jump isn’t rushing the series to end, looking at the popularity chart, MHA still doing real good and always gets into the top 5. The one rushing it to end is actually Horikoshi himself as he’s kind of grown tired of making manga and wants to retire (which is understandable cuz being a mangaka sucks) and so is pretty much speedrunning to the end
@Axel230
@Axel230 Год назад
If being honest, my only issue with this Arc is The focus on Deku speedrunning through the new powers. Full Cowl was awesome because, while it was different, it was just a creative use of super strength at the end of the day, same with Air Force. The power itself was limited, but the focus was closer to HunterxHunter or JoJo where the battles are more about outsmarting the opponent than just getting random powerups Besides that, this Arc does have a lot going so I understand having to rush through some things, still pretty darn good tho
@quotetrain584
@quotetrain584 Год назад
is this arc different in the manga?
@GameoftheYear-fx4mq
@GameoftheYear-fx4mq Год назад
You're a year late with this bro. We would've loved to know your opinions back when it ended in 2022.
@_____Imnotcreativeatnames
@_____Imnotcreativeatnames Год назад
All of these complaints could easily be fixed if it was just longer, if it was longer it could have enough time for the kids to empathize their teachers deaths etc.
@Sci_Fi_Ty
@Sci_Fi_Ty Год назад
This season has been an amazing journey! Best one in the series for me💯
@theocurrent382
@theocurrent382 Год назад
I am honestly surprised at the fact some comments are like "I agree it was short"...is that really what most people think? Just "short"? I remember when the manga went through the arc and everyone was throwing hands at each other because it not only was short, it also had the worst rushed closure for an arc that had SO much potential. Though I get it, by implying it was a short arc it lacked many things people would have liked to see but COME ON! My Hero Academia has the most toxic fandom and you expect me to believe they are calmly agreeing it was short?? I was there when all videos on this arc in the manga had a comment section full of hate. I was expecting a worse storm when the anime aired and surprisingly I haven't seen it blow up like it should have. It could also be that people who simply watch the anime don't care for plot and such...or left soon after this arc ended, can't judge them tho.
@motor4X4kombat
@motor4X4kombat Год назад
do you have any friend?
@xxshadowhunter5149
@xxshadowhunter5149 2 месяца назад
I think it was the shiguraki arc when the city started decaying 🤔 where the smaller problems in the show became a major problem no one minded at first. No major characters have died just off screen side characters, the reveal of dabi was amazing but we didnt get a single dialog or pannel from the class about there feelings towards endevor same with when they found out about deku powers. Deku quirks felt earned every step of the way but then it became a new power ups out of know where. I could go on and on but this sums it up ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cAAT9RoS-Lk.htmlsi=se2vhrpwCXov1jgF
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