Hasn't Kabul been liberated from a 20-year unwanted foreign occupation? Feb 2020, the US agreed to complete the evacuation by May 2021 then extended it to 31 August. Why has the US still problem to complete it on time? Does the US slow down the evacuation intentionally for no other purpose than to provoke Taliban? Now our media is crying out loud that the Taliban doesn't allow the US/G7 to keep breaking their agreement. So, any agreement signed with the US/G7 is insignificant - virtually worthless because they can tear it apart at will? Russia offers to provide its civilian planes to fly Afghan and US citizens to the US and other countries. Hasn’t the US not only invaded Afghanistan for 20 years to replace the Taliban with the ‘Taliban’ but also send 1,000 more US troops to aid evacuation? While "cleaning up" the mess in Afghanistan is still under way what country’s vice president is visiting Asia strengthening its strategic structure around China with the sole purpose of containing China?
@@garyoakham9723 Trump's Impeachment at first was caused by his phone call with the Ukranian President, trying to favor him about the 2020 Election. He was charged for abuse of power, and obstruction of congress. His second impeachement was caused by the US Capitol Attack by Mobs, encouraged by Trump himself. He was charged of Incitement of Insurrection. Trump may not started another war, but Trump caused the reigniting the tensions with the Iranians, which both US and Iran made a peace terms during the Obama Administration.
Ended in chaos? Not surprising! This happened in 1975 in Saigon, Vietnam too. Exact same situation. Scenes of people rushing onto helicopters at the US embassy, scenes of babies being lifted, scenes of helicopters flying off from embassy rooftop, scenes of Vietnamese US collaborators, translaters, etc. being executed, scenes of Vietnamese refugees on the high seas and land borders.
Well... If you in one of the poorest countries in the world announce "Come to the airport and we will evacuate you" What did they expect would happen?? Must say it was not "The brightest idea" they had... Strangely enough nobody has pointed this out...
Maybe we would actually have the infrastructure, the renewable energy, the public transportation, to receive this amount of people. At the very least the American people could count on tangible results other than "it's going great guys!"
The US soldiers killed recently were so young, born in 2002, 2001, 1999 etc- they have no memory of 9/11 - It’s history to them, yet they still lost their lives in that war. It is unbelievably tragic. No more.
Spent my early 20s deployed. I’ve had 15 knee surgeries and lost 3 friends. I’m angry, sad and indifferent. Spent 2 years in Kabul alone. Now I understand why Vietnam vets are salty. This hurts. Wish the best for the local nationals.
Do you want to feel hurt even more? Whenever you are called into a war in foreign lands, know that you will not fight for your own people, but for the rich and powerful minority.
The goal of the war was to funnel 2 trillion dollars of Americans tax payers money to the military industrial complex, which it achieved spectacularly. Sorry for what happened to you and your friends.
I’m sorry for your losses, but thank you for your service, I don’t think I could ever willingly enlist in the military knowing that we fight for the rich to get richer.
FUN FACT: The United States simply abandoned $85 BILLION worth of military gear, weapons and vehicles over there. Some perspective: Russia's entire defense budget is only $61.7 BILLION. India spends about $72 BILLION. The UK spends $59.2 BILLION. What we just threw away is more than the entire defense budgets of Italy, Australia and Canada COMBINED, and we did it for NOTHING. What's worse is these very weapons will likely be used against us in the coming years.
@@kadaltokek3953 if you want to be nitpicky and technical, I'd tell you that there is no continent called America. there is north and south America, but no whole continent I'm aware of. If you are referring to north america, you say north america. If you are referring to USA, you can say America for short. I can assure you when people say America they're talking about the country. If they're talking about a continent, they'd be wrong. "America" isn't a continent. you're thinking of NA and SA.
@@Michijoy Who said that when people said "America" its reffering to "USA"? Just USA itself, the whole world reffering America as the continent. Now go back to geography lesson weeb, take care yourself, healthcare aint free and remember those 3 grand for an ambulance
Bruh didn't Vietnam have like 20x as many casualties..? I think more people died on September 11th during the terrorist attacks than US soldiers in the entire 20 year Afghan war.
"If you lose a war and wanting to flee,do not accepte the fact that you lost, just say you are withdrawing with your allies."--Sun Tzu (The art of war)
We've already spent billions on both and what do we have? An overwhelming population of people who can't meet educational minimums and vast sums of money spent on people who aren't even legal citizens at the hospitals. Throwing more money at problems doesn't solve these problems - it's what is done with it that counts.
Essentially the U.S. government had been beating this dead horse for 20 years, kept throwing money and live blood at it. No president wanted to admit that this horse is dead. At the end, the dead horse just implored.
We extracted a lot of oil during the time though, money well spent to those in high positions, they don’t care about the death of our young soldiers lol
Can't say they didn't try though, imagine had it actually worked and Afghanistan could've caught up to the world like it was before the Taliban dragged them back into the medieval times.
The goal of the war was to funnel 2 trillion dollars of Americans tax payers money to the military industrial complex, which it achieved spectacularly.
At last , after failing miserably to make any positive impact in Afghanistan, despite being there for 20 years, America has finally seen the light and waved, the white flag before the victorious Talibans. What a humiliating swan song.
@@jamesburns2232 For the record, the idea of exiting Afghanistan began with Barack, then Trump made 'deals' to release Taliban prisoners (one is now the new Afghani leader/ president)--which had no consequences for the Taliban, nor real value other than Trump's personal gain. ALSO, Trump made this deal WITHOUT talking to Afghanistan. #facts Enter the 'Biden' administration. Which happens to inherit everything from the previous administrations, because... uhm... yeah, that's how it works. Then, they had to make their own decisions. Like it or not, 'fan boying' for one 'side' or another is pointless. If we're a 'country divided'... then, we're definitely going to flounder. THAT IS WHAT CERTAIN PEOPLE WANT. They want the people of the U.S. *divided* amongst themselves. People yelling 'TRUMP!' or 'BIDEN!' But in the end, 'DonJoe' will keep you poor, unfulfilled and broke.
@@Novastar.SaberCombat Trump made the Afghan armed forces totally defenceless against the taliaban advances. It was Trump who made the "peace" deal public on US TV for electoral purposes.
It's just the fact that we just let it get back to where it started. R.I.P to the lost soldiers in Afghanistan. This isn't going to be going anytime soon and we will feel those effects unfortunately.
The US entered the war because of a terrorist attack, we are not back where we started so much as we’ve lost the effort to continue. Also, you should feel a lot worse about the Vietnam war, with millions dead and displaced, along with huge riots and many cultural shifts.
I like how this piece switches from calling out the corrupt government to calling it a "democracy we supported". I am sure Afghans will miss that government
Going forward, the Afghans will miss any kind of cohesive government. Afghanistan is a failed state, run by warlords who'll fight one another in the absence of a common enemy.
@Supreme Afghanistan has over 34M people. Of those, only a few thousand are clamoring to get to the USA, some for economic reasons and not for any fear. The country needs to settle and the best support that can be given is economic support and not perpetuating conflicts. I find it funny that people in the USA are screaming to see guns banned and police defunded etc but are perfectly okay sending troops with deadly drones etc to other countries. The only time troops should be sent is if there is a massacre or active civil war, like it was in Rwanda, yet no one helped anyway. And then leave as soon as things stabilise and focus on rebuilding. Imagine how many schools, roads, malls, farms, factories etc could have been build with the trillions spent if only half of that went to direct economic empowerment. The Afghans would have had something to fight for.
@@ciararespect4296 Once again someone who talks about something or someone without knowing what really happened. Tupac died almost broke, he didn't live long enough to enjoy the royalties of his biggest album All Eyez On Me. And he was giving a lot of his money back to his community and to charity.
@@LuckyBide yea right. Dying broke doesn't matter. We can't take it with us. All rich donate a bit to charity for the feel good factor I wasnt replying to you anyway and it was to a specific comment. So clear off
I can't wait for Gerard Butler or Tom Hanks to star as a tough but kind US General/ NATO senior military officer that helped save thousands of lives in the evacuation in a Hollywood movie glorifying the US involvement in Afg while holding the terrorists at bay for several days outside the airport. Blockbuster hit, US pride redeemed, public forgives. All is well that ends well.
Some of the biggest critics of the Afghan withdrawal are Americans. You're literally commenting this on an American made video criticising the US' war, on an American platform. The US has a remarkable ability to admit its mistakes and display them to the entire world.
@@waterdrinkingexpert6797 lol that is why they put all the blame to afghanistan after their humiliating defeat. When they themselves sideline the afghan government by negotiating with the taliban.
Sure, the last 20 years of warfare in the Middle East cost the USA $4 trillion, but the impact of all these Covid lockdowns has cost the US economy $16 trillion in just two years.
your taxes could have been used to improve health care, improve the education system, build foster shelters public learning centres places of worship and better public transportation had been spent on a lost war.
2 trillion USD. That's 600 billion USD SHORT of India's annual GDP. My gawd. The subtle privilege of being able to quantitatively ease when you're a super power.
Bhai, it is 1000 billion dollars more now. But, whatever. The main thing is US just installed monsters who will now propagate jihad all over the world.
Managed to secure lithium for batteries, the vast majority of the worlds supply of opium for opioids used in pharmaceuticals as well as minerals for petroleum and of course oil reserves in Iraq. All of this over a 20 year period, now presumably a deal has been struck and the Taliban will no doubt be cooperating with the sourcing and logistics. I would say mission accomplished certainly.
@@nickrad6966 wrong. China will get the deal with taliban for earth metals. They are already talking about building high speed rail between China and Afghanistan basically the new silkroad.
@@Blackowl44 in foreign policy but if you leftists think America will fall like the Soviet Union you're trippin asf as long as standard of living and pace of the economy is good just because civil and social issues are prominent it wouldn't mean crap I recommend you watch the whatiflist on would the west fall within our lifetime
@@inigobantok1579 Soviet Union and USA are two completely different societies. Everything you mentioned is not good in America currently lol. Do you even live in America right now. They are literally printing and pumping more fiat currency into the economy just to keep it going. So many more problems I haven’t even mention that is building up.
You literally have big private equity companies buying up everything and raising the price in America as we speak. Millennials can’t even afford to buy a house in key America cities. Majority of people don’t even own their home. Our tax money is wasted majorly. The intelligence community can operate without any accountability. Millions of Americans are becoming fed up everyday. You have no idea was gonna pop off in the near future.
If the US is truly a land of law and order and justice (i.e a first world civilized nation) as they try so hard to promote around the world. Then, heads need to role, those decision makers that did all of this need to be held accountable. However, this will not happen and the world now sees that the US is no better than the countries the US points their finger at.
2:23 So are you claiming the U.S invaded Afghanistan and imposed a corrupted government on them on purpose, OR that there are corrupted U.S officials who had been working with the a corrupted Afghanistan government to misappropriate and embezzled U.S tax payer's money in aid to Afghanistan? How is that not the more important issues ?
@@KesumaofEO Talaban was in control then. Talaban is, after two decades, still in control. Afgan is the longest and costliest war in US history. At least 2 Trillion plus went to Boeing, Raythin, General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin. So yes, I guess it is MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
@@jonb3189 obviously you're just here to spread anti-american thoughts since you can't even get the spelling correct for the Taliban. Use your 50 cents to get a better education you wumao. You go ahead and tell all the women in Afghanistan that it wasn't worth it to give them a chance at being something more than a breeding vessel.
@@KesumaofEO 2 trillion dollars and thousands of lives for giving Afghans limited human rights. Not to mention US bombed thousands of kids to death and it is the US fault that Taliban exists. Maybe it's you who needs a history lesson, US does have a crappy education system.
$2.26 Trillion better to be spent on well being for Americans providing home for the homeless, create more job opportunities, settle student loans, cheaper medical expenses etc
@SpaghettiBoy7 Afghans does not have a real concept of a country, the are like 5-6 main tribes, mostly rural people, thats why the military arm of Afghans fell like a house of cards, Afghanistan "exist" by a mere "fake" territorial division of Great Britain.
We extracted a lot of oil during the time though, money well spent to those in high positions, they don’t care about the death of our young soldiers lol
Sure if you like waiting 3 months for a surgery like in Canada where wait times are three times higher than the US... by the time you get your date for surgery you're already dead.
Why would they bring refugees from Afghanistan and spend so much money when there are many immigrants from Mexico that are willing to work and they cross the border by themselves, what a waste of money.
Because the Afghans are fleeing from a war you guys started and because of the oppression of the Taliban. Mexicans on the other hand have a democratic government and are just economic refugees whereas the Afghan refugees are war refugees. It's as simple as that
Uh no, just that there was not enough support for a unified government, without the US the people in those rural areas hardly had a choice, let the Taliban takeover or be killed by them.
The mostly rural people were not getting the support they wanted from the very corrupt Afghan Govt.--- The very corrupt Afghan Govt. was not worth fighting and dying for. America is an idea. But what exactly is "Afghanistan" to the mostly rural population. Answer: ??
A wise man told me, "You're just a poor man fighting a rich man's war." Nothing but glory mongers, all because of 9/11. None of these guys, except maybe a small, very small percentage gave some care for the people of Afghanistan.
Well, when the Soviets left Afghanistan, it was done in a very orderly, efficient and organized manner. The Afghan government troops that were left, fought, defended the cities and capital and held out for 3 years before falling to the US and Pakistan supported mujahideens. Also, while the Soviets built a lot of infrastructure, the US mostly spent the 2 trillion dollars on big US defense companies and private military contractors.
More like the american peoples understanding. The military have said multiple times how barbaric in thinking Afghans are, and how its like teaching medeival idiots how to form a functioning democracy. But some people live in a fantasy land where they think they can keep afghanistan stable without equally barbaric responses.
@@cplcabs huh? I think Biden is a total tool, but I agree with him on this one. Weapons are really cheap and easily available in Afghanistan - why not fight? They had 20 years to save up for a rifle and ammo and train. Now they’re running away? Did they just sit around and smoke opium the whole time?
@FlawlessGainzz4 exactly! They just rolled over instantly. Almost like they think it’s not worth it, or they agree with the takeover. Either way, you’re 100% correct. We can’t fight for them forever.
How can the Afghans are left badly trained ? The US has been there for 20 years fighting side by side with the Afghan military. It is absurd that they learn nothing from the experience on the battlefield. It is the attitude of the Afghans soldiers that ran away from the taliban , not willing to fight to the last man. If you ask me, I will say, they deserve this ending.
Anyone who had the slightest delusion that the Afghan war would end any other way simply ignored a surfeit of evidence. We knew the Afghan regime we had brought to power was deeply corrupt. We knew the money we were spending on projects aimed at improving the economy and building stability were being stolen from. In what universe did you expect such people to fight and die against the Taliban once we left and the gravy train was coming to a stop? The simple fact, the United States' war aims were never possible, because true regime change requires cultural change. It's madness to suppose that in a mere 20 years, we can change the fundamental character of Afghan society and values. England conquered Wales in 1283, yet the Welsh culture and character remains distinct. England began incursions into Ireland in 1529, yet Ireland struggled for nearly 500 years to achieve independence. Scotland and England came under a unified Monarchy in 1603, yet there is still a seething independence movement after over 400 years. Cultures change, to be sure, and these lands are far different from the places they were hundreds of years ago. And yet, you would think after all that time, the regional identities of the various parts of the United Kingdom would have assimilated after hundreds of generations with a single government. So, why would we operate under the fantasy that we could assimilate the Tajik, Pashtun, Uzbek, and other ethnic groups in a mere 20 years? Especially while we were, to the casual observer, indiscriminately firebombing people? The truth is, there we never a reason for us to be there. Not defeating Al'Qaeda, not exporting democracy, not providing stability. It was all futile, a gigantic government boondoggle which made riches for defense contractors and a select group of corrupt Afghan insiders. Next time we're going to waste 2.2 trillion dollars in taxpayer money, let's do it on the American education system, so at least nobody has to die while we're hemorrhaging money failing to achieve our policy goals.
Amen to this, US was successful with Japan because they were so nationalistic and US work with their high ranks to rebuild the country, in Afghanistan you have lots of ethnic groups that probably hate each other and wouldn’t never cooperate with each other.
Not, down the drain, Taliban upgrades and resupply. See what the $85 billon gave them: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NQSfFvaztdc.html
You said its a fall.. Because you lose that war.. But for Taliban its a biggest win.. After more than 2 decades Taliban fought more than one country to defend their teritories, their homeland from bulgar that wanna robbed everything from them. Someone once told me.. Never understimate your enemies.. Wether they fought you with good weapon or just a rock.
whenever you fail a business or a job, wasted a lot of money on failed investment, and want to end your life; remember not to ever do it. because as bad as you are, you will never wasted $2 trillion dollar. so keep on living, better days will come.
Bro we didn’t have a single casualty until Biden’s handing in the final days in the withdrawal. There was no need to completely pull out thanks to bombing any taliban movement. Now the world is a more dangerous place now that terrorists have more black hawks then Australia.
@@zakiasultana7087 No, the US is a very young country,, about 240 years old, that makes it only about 6% of the time those countries have been fighting, and destroying each other, (close to 4000 years), and it doesn’t have the malice and history of human disrespect and degradation all those other countries have, but I should add terrorist harboring Pakistan to the list, along almost the whole east side of Afghanistan, and Turkmenistan, one of the MOST repressive countries in the world as well. Would be interesting to get a live satelite view of all those borders right now. May I say more? We can continue if you like.
The whole "War on terror" adventure is around 7 TRILLION USD and that is only what the USA have spent... then you have what all allies have spent... "But look at the fantastic result" things have gotten so much better😂😂😂😂😂😂
Reality Check: With Afganistan's war budget of $2 trillion, you could fix American healthcare, eradicate homelessness, and build an extensive high speed cross country rail network COMBINED. *AND YOU WOULD STILL HAVE $1.47 TRILLION LEFT OVER* . The US government can fund a 20 year long war, but not the most basic necessities for it's citizens as a "first world" country.
@@FATDADDYSACK Same outcome. Thousands of American friends and allies caught by the NVA. The South Vietnamese government were just as corrupt and venal. And many ran to reside in California and similar places. Some even proudly waved their old flag during the January 6th event at the US Capitol.
Interestingly, several years ago Trump detailed what would happen in Afghanistan if the US just up and pulled out. His clear and unambiguous statement on the matter is on video. Although Trumps very accurate years old prediction did not include intentionally giving the Taliban billions of $ of US military equipment/structures/info, it did accurately described what just took place - here in Aug 2021. Surely someone employed by CNBC knows what video is and how to view/listen to it ??? Saying, "no one could predict" is just entirely false.
Every major news outlet reporting how the US has lost trillions of dollars, but why do they not report the amount that the US has made from this war. All the contractors (e.g. Boeing to name one) that were employed in the last 20 years made also trillions of dollars. Board of management of these contractors are top US military individuals...all became millionaires. You have not lost the war, you decided that elsewhere profit will be higher.
Let's not confuse politicians and the American people. Politicians may have made out like bandits with their executive cohorts, but the American people were left with the bill.
"The goal is to use Afghanistan to wash money out of the tax bases of the US and Europe through Afghanistan and back into the hands of a transnational security elite. The goal is an endless war, not a successful war". - Julian Assange Somebody! Please thumb me!
Human rights? What happened to human rights when carpet bombing? When supporting criminal warlords abusing children? Oh and not counting deaths as a policy. Spare us the crocodile tears. It was never really about rights or freedom or democracy. Its all about the money - The military industrial complex has played a vicious game. Afghanistan will be just fine. The migration is largely an economic migration. With security and law and order in place, the country will become prosperous InshAllah in no time.
Does anyone remember the endless parade of flags displayed on cars before the war? That was the best evidence we were about to do something profoundly stupid. Only one representative voted against war.
I'm Australian and believe in the US alliance and believe the US presence in the world is overall positive influence. But in the post-WWII world, we were one of the few countries to join them in the Vietnam War (disaster), then in Iraq (based on a lie, and which nearly fell to ISIS, so we had to go in again, and still who know if Iraq will last long-term), and now Afghanistan is like Vietnam no.2. It does have me wondering why we should be a blank cheque for every ill thought out American military venture.
It wasn’t ill thought out. It did exactly what it was meant to. Wash money through the military industrial complex and into the hands of weapons manufacturers. Why do you think they left the weapons there in the taliban? To fuel the next war.
@thulomanchay Well considering the central banks are moving to China underneath the noses of Americans, it makes sense. Xi Xiaoping and the former President of the Republic of Iran signed a defensive and economic pact with each other. We are on the verge of a World War. Something is going to spark it, not sure what. Tensions in the middle east are high. But for you to act as if the Americans are solely responsible for all things bad is ridiculous, meanwhile, China is loading innocent and equally intelligent and more beautiful men/women onto trains and sending them God knows where. But I truly have to respect the Chinese. They are by far the brightest symbol of stability and progression in the world… Maybe not so much technologically yet, but as more people from Silicon, Huntsville, and tech centers on the planet make the move to China, they’ll gain more influential power and become the dominating country. But again, I truly think the only way that would happen is years of already noticed assimilation into American society… But I welcome them and their ideas, as long as we keep each other’s nationalities free, it doesn’t bother me. America has a lot of changing to do, including a lot of European countries. Hopefully it doesn’t become violent before that, but a big war is coming for sure… It will be very violent, but also very short.
You can't win a war against an enemy that sees you as a foreign usurper and has more patience than you do. This is exactly what happened in Vietnam. We should have gotten out a lot sooner but mission creep from defeating terrorism to nation-building made it America's longest war. Apparently the American way of life is not as exportable as the politicians would have us believe.
This was inevitable. Should have left them alone minding their business back in the 80’s. The media should really bring up the history about the US intervention in Afghanistan during that time. There’s too much ignorance about this topic today.
Interestingly enough... If the USA had not started supporting radical Islam and the Mujahedin the Soviet backed government would probably have staid in power. Then Afghanistan today would have been ok for women and like a former Soviet Republic. Al-Qaeda would not exist 9/11 would not have happened. No war on terror... Not these wars in the middle east.. Iraq, Libya, Syria... Not saying this is sure BUT there is a good chance the outcome would be something like that.
EXACTLY Must say... Afghans takes power in Afghanistan. Occupation forces are leaving The media calls this "The Fall of Afghanistan" When the Germans were beat in Europe was that framed as "The Fall of Europe" *WHAT KIND OF COLONIAL MINDSET IS THIS???* Do they realize how absurd this is???
Now Generail Miley said USA's biggest enemy is China. I am Chinese from China. We don't want to have a war with the US because it is too expensive. We are not as rich as Americans and we have a lot of people who need to, in an American term, make ends meet. We also have a lot of infrastructure expenses, such as roads, bridges, railways, etc.. According to BBC, it is said that US spent 825 billion dollars in in Afghanistan which is really a much smaller country with a much smaller population in contrast to China. We Chinese simply cannot afford to that amount of money. If you let 825 billion be divided by 329.5 million (American population), that is about 2,500 dollars for each American. That is insane. I don't know about Americans, but if America had used the 825 billion dollars on education (let's say provide more financial aids to college students), medical care (e.g., make medicine cheaper and affordable), or infrastructure (e.g., build high speed trains in some densely populated areas so people don't have to suffer to traffic jam), that may have been a more constructive way to use American people's tax money. I like American people and I believe they are just as hard working as Chinese average people. They also need to have budget concerns, save money for kids' college tuition, and same things as Chinese will face. Spending too much money on military (too much means not necessary or excessive) isn't the best way to use tax dollars
Доллар сейчас обеспечен только американской военной мощью, иначе это просто бумага. Американцы всегда понимали, что если они остановятся то упадут это сейчас и происходит.
I think it went perfectly fine for the US… US military that is. They had the reason they needed to keep investing money in to the military, but now that they have China in the horizon you might as well put some more money in to that budget eh.
