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I think of This Means War as a spiritual prelude to Beartooth. Even the drum patterns are similar to what would later turn up on Beartooth's first record.
That's because Caleb literally wrote that entire album. Just like he does with every Beartooth album (with the exception of "Disease". He had some help with that).
Bilmuri was the best thing to come out of AA! for me. Johnny doing his own weird funky shit is just... I'm watching a man do what he wants and it sounds great.
March ahead was fairly solid too, especially the last stuff he made under that title. The guitarist, Lee Albrecht is one of the best on the planet. His other band Seraphim is one of my top favorites.
@@nicholasdonin1465 the first March Ahead album literally sounds like unreleased AA songs that Johnny had written. And shows how much of his creativity contributed to the band.
Bilmuri is one of my favorite bands now!! Johnny is such a cool and talented guy! Seeing him perform live was definitely one of my highlights from last year
I love how we never acknowledge how many gatekeepers in the music scene who hated anything popular in the scene there was in the 00s. Looking back it really wasn't that serious of these bands and their different sounds. They influenced this Gen.
It was weird. I saw blessthefall at a Taste of Chaos show sometime around 2008. Had my BTF shirt on and was walking back from the bathroom and some random dude in an Avenged Sevenfold shirt (who I also like) sang "Blessthefall is gay" in a the melody of one of their songs as he walked by me. I said nothing to this guy, didn't even notice him till he said it. It was unprovoked and completely out of nowhere. I just shook my head and laughed, which seemed to bother him too as he walked away with a pissed off look on his face. I wasn't even mad or offended, I just found it comically stupid. It was bizarre and was the only time that's happened to me at a show, but it epitomized that era of gatekeeping. I stopped going to music forums to avoid all that stuff. Just let bands do their thing and have fun. That's what music is all about.
Same with the oldheads in hip hop. They want to stick with the same sound for decades(which is fine) but the problem comes in when they start attacking and discouraging people from evolving the genre
these kinds of suggestions are pointles, he has to do the videos about bands because of his own personal experinces with those bands' music, not just because they're important or generaly interesting for a certain population in the scene because of this or that
*shows post-AA!-projects* Austin and OM&M: serious and intimidating Caleb and Beartooth: serious and intimidating Johnny and Bilmuri: derp face and cowboy hat
When Johnny left, I left to. I recently just revisited their 3rd album in my life and now @ 30 Years old I love that album. I did follow Caleb to Beartooth and everything, But attack attack lost me when Johnny left :3 he was attack attack to me.. He brought in that Neon Pop punk shit that I loved about AA #1. I mean i was still around for 'Last breath' and how Caleb was talking about changing his Vocals up and actually trying a lot harder. I liked Last Breath and remember it being kind of heavy in it's own way, Like Wetzel said in the interview. Bro i couldn't believe their was a tour with Attack Attack as the headliner and Asking Alexandria as an opener... That has to be where they stole the stage presence and perfected the crabcore. AA #1 and AA#2 hahah
@@andremasghati852 I heard about Bilmuri from the comments of the first video on Attack Attack, on this channel. I agree, it's amazing. Been streaming 400lb Back Squat ever since
I actually know their bassist and I can guarantee you that caterpillar sex is probably never going to be an album 🤷🏻♀️ Matt just doesn't want to release it despite having everything done. At least from what I've been told.
@@Albie_SOHR as far as I know, Austin called Landon and said something about him and his kid that crossed the line. If I’m wrong, someone please correct me
@@jackdotsontv The song was actually about Austin allegedly raping someone that Landon knew/is related to. Pretty ahead of it's time, considering all the shit that ended up coming out about Carlile
I agree, their self titled one is by far their best album. I'm glad they're back in some degree and returned back to their earlier sound. The new ep is pretty good and a natural follow up to their 2nd album.
Whoa, I had completely forgotten that Jerry Roush was in OM&M briefly. You can always count on the Cozy Rep to bring the scene lore. Great video as always.
A day to remember would be an interesting rise. I just saw them at the mission ballroom.. they didn't fall ha. Still got it. should be a vid on the channel for sure.
@@DxmSanchez For sure, they are still strong. And while they don’t have the total domination they used to, they are still heavily respected and people come out in MASS for their shows.
I remember liking a video from Attack Attack! that had the demo version of Stick Stickly. In the video, there were guys in mosh pits and parking lots, crowdkilling, moshing, and spin - kicking. I don’t know if the video is still up (haven’t checked my feed further to see if it was deleted or not), but it had to be the sickest video I’ve seen.
This Means War and self titled are easily my favorites. I like Someday Came Suddenly but not nearly as much as the other albums. I feel that the self titled is peak and iconic Attack Attack while This Means War is basically a pre-Beartooth album for Caleb which I love because I also love Beartooth. Also I’m loving the new stuff rn.
Just letting you guys know, the new ep Attack Attack came out with in 2021 is really good. Honestly think it’s such a good step up for them. I hope this time they can keep their shit together after being gone for 7 years.
It’s ok but it sounds like everyone else. Would’ve rather seen more members reunite with more of their original sound rather than a 20% reunion that sounds like wannabe BMTH
@@stevelatour7886 Honestly I have thought about this too, and as much as I do miss those days, their history and drama just has proved that their current lineup has the most potential. Also I feel like two of their songs sound like their old stuff and the Kawaii Cowboys I think is the only song I think sounds the most unique. Never heard a country like tone meets electronic vibe before but that’s just me. If that sounds like everyone else I’d love to hear recommendations on what that sounds like cause I have yet to hear a metal, pop, or electronic artist add bass drops to acoustic-country like riffs before.
To help clarify or at least somewhat understand some of what John was saying... I think John was suffering from a form of OCD. What many don't know is that OCD can manifest itself in a myriad of ways with the most irrational obsessions and worries--in this case, John obsessing about being gay/not being gay. It's a very common obsession in the OCD community. The way he explained his thoughts did come off as very erratic though but that just shows his deteriorating mental state. I hope he has gotten the help he needed at the time.
The problem with This Means War I'd that it's too heavy. Yeah it's more heavy than the previous albums, but that also means it's the least heavy. Because when everything's heavy, nothing is heavy. The synth and pop vocals breaking up the brutality was the reason why it was so heavy.
Caleb was young for a front man, but hey they did tour with Our Last Night, who had Trevor, who was 12 when he joined his band, so yeah Also AC-130 is probably a reference to the popular Call of Duty kill streak perk that would call in a AC-130
Also worth noting that a pretty good reason they booted Nick was there is a demo of Sexual Man Chocolate with him and Caleb just over shadows him in it
Attack Attack will always be influential to me due to the bands that were created out of former members. Bilmuri Beartooth Of Mice & Men --> Dayshell There's probably more, but these are the ones that come to mind.
I remember my sophomore year this guy in my class showed me stick stickly and was hooked in the ‘scene music’ ever since lol. Still listen to a lot of those bands today. But I agree their self titled is my fav album too!
This means war is my favourite album by far, it feels sort of like a teaser of the sound that Beartooth picked up later on. Kinda like a Beartooth 1.0 if you will.
i miss john holgado, i hope he’s living life, metal articles were so insensitive back then!! you look up his name and it’s just so weird and crazy, miss his face 😭❤️
I’ll never forget seeing a AA tour video that had just came out. They were at Chili’s talking about what they ate, and someone harmlessly said “All Caleb had was a Diet Coke” or something like that… didn’t even realize at the time.
I always thought AC130 was just a funny reference to the call of duty kill streak from MW2, being that the game was so popular at the time. Never thought about it as an Austin diss but that’d be crazy.
The AC-130 thing probably had something to do with Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2 being like the biggest thing in the world around when the album came out
That guy that said technical difficulties in the beginning... At the American legion in Pensacola in 08/09 the synth audio went down..then all audio after that during party foul and I remember Austin Carlisle repeating: "boats n hoes" to smooth it over. Still an amazing show. Thanks J! Love the nostalgia you bring with these vids.
Just saw AA live a few months ago, they were phenomenal. Their new songs are in my opinion, their best and most balanced material. Not too crazy, but not so bland that they don't have a sound. Their new vocalist is absolutely killer.
ALSO worth talking about, Last Breath had a demo that was insanely better than the outcome and they had written an entire album like the song that got shelved
I admit i've never heard of any of this bands youre videos are based on but i watch them all, your knowledge on music and you explain everything so well, you are so cool thank you for the vids
bruh, for me, Austin, Johnny, and Caleb will always be the soul of Attack Attck!. The newest AA! stuff is some metalcore Weekend at Bernie’s vibes, and just sounds like another generic BMTH wannabe. Real shame too, all these neon hyper-pop projects with wild autotune like 100 Gecs that AA! could take notes from. Seemed like a natural progression to me. idk, maybe they’re too old to get it. Now it just feels likes they’re desperately chasing those hard rock charts and trends. Kinda sad from the band that was setting the trends man :’(
Johnny and Caleb were definitely the masterminds. As evidenced by Beartooth (not my favorite, but can't deny that it's different than most other bands) and Bilmuri
Something I didn’t see mentioned is between the self titled and the 4 song EP with “last breath” and even on into this means war, Caleb Shomo was heavily studying singing and screaming vocal technique with Melissa cross. His work on this means war and bear tooth are some of the best examples of the technique she teaches.
Pretty sure AC-130 was a direct reference it's appearance in Modern Warfare 2 because Johnny was obsessed with the game. Even put in the thank you section for the album
According to Andrew Wetzel on his live stream, they were really into war themed games (like Call of Duty) and "AC-130" comes from the fighter aircraft name. Just a joke title, like some of their other songs.
Johnny Franck leaving because he's more introverted makes more sense when you listen to his current band Bilmuri's lyrics. Bilmuri is amazing, for anyone who haven't heard them yet.
Wicked video as always man! It would be really cool if you did an ISMFOF one! Remember those weird sketches they did to promote their music back in the day?
Last breath and pick a side I instantly loved. I wish they kept that the 3rd album sound. BUT as I distanced from that genre as I got older, the 3rs album is solid AF. Anyone just jumping into that album would never associate that with teeny core. I got into these guys my senior year of HS, after several Columbus Ohio shows. And yes, Austin was a total tool back then Also NO DEFEAT was a damn BANGER!
I agree with you, attack attacks self titled was definitely their best album, all good bangers like sexual man chocolate,I swear I’ll change, smokahontas,and turbo swag are my favorite songs on that album. I think Caleb honestly made the band who they were meant to be.🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Whether AC-130 was a diss to Austin or not, Austin certainly thought that it was. On the second OMAM album the track "ohioisonfire" definitely seems like a direct response to AC-130.
I remember seeing Attack Attack twice in 2012. Once with TWA and Escape The Fate where Caleb Shomo had the flu and was puking on stage, and then headlining Scream It Like You Mean It 2012
I agree with you in the sense that This Means War didn't do much for them past the initial release, at the time. 'At the time' being crucial here. If we talk about the album NOW, I completely disagree and I think it's just as crucial and legendary of an album, maybe not in terms of AA but for the metalcore scene as a whole now. Don't forget that This Means War was essentially birthed Beartooth. Once Beartooth became a prominent name in the scene, as well as Caleb. I think the album turned out to be much more important than it was. Sonically it isn't ground breaking by any means, but if Caleb didn't start singing, and This Means War didn't exist. Beartooth wouldn't be one of the biggest bands in the scene Timing is everything
