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Great video! However I think you should have used the House of Dusk symbol to 'represent' the Fallen as although they have no unified House to begin with, so it would be difficult to find a symbol to represent them all, House of Dusk is the largest and most wide-spread house. Using the House of Salvation symbol is like using the ISIS Flag to represent all Muslims...not a good look. Currently, there are also 2 Houses allied with us, House of Light (no military forces, almost entirely comprised of refugees) and House of Spider, a Pirate gang with actual highly-specialized military forces, and a shady but desperate leader.

Dark Angels: FALLEN???

Awesome video!!! Hope you do videos on Naruto or Legend of the Galactic Heroes.

@@jakespacepiratee3740 spider doesn't have a house of his own, as he's only a baron, not a kell

@@icicle_ai The Destiny pedia itself calls SPider's group "House of Spider" and apparently it was referred to as such in lore at some point.

I think many humans wouldn't, but I think most humans may. Like, most humans wouldn't be the first to suggest the idea but would go along with it at some point once that proverbial ball started rolling. It's a lot easier to do something awful once you've seen someone else do it.

@@deriznohappehquite which is the right decision generally speaking, had they done that from the start the wars against the Hive, the Taken, the Vex and the Cabal might have been far less costly and over far sooner. Alas they felt entitled to reclaiming the traveller exactly as they'd had it before and did not take the time to consider the human perspective in the equation.

We’ve killed so many of their brothers it only reinforces their inhumanity… Human Beings know when to stop fighting when there could be peace -be it for survival or blind malice- Eliksni deserve to go… Their already not being used to their full narrative potential, but I’m just a humble Worldbuilder what would I know…

I would not and I do blame them.

@@seekingabsolution1907 indeed, the idea of a house finally allying with humanity fuels a want from me for a fallen Guardian. It would look amazing and makes me think;”what would a fallen guardian have for abilities?”

Except Mithrax, Kell of the House of Light, who appears to remain at Captain size and never take more than a fair share.

@@konahrikb1578 And yet he’s powerful enough to scare spider and hold respect from eramis at one point

@@snax7760 Just goes to show, an Eliksni doesn't need to grow to the size of a small mountain to be a powerful warrior and intimidating presence.

That’s why I love Mithrax. Sure most of his people are underdeveloped but being a Kell, mithrax is only the size of a regular captain. He only takes his share and no more. He only needs enough ether to become strong enough to protect his house.

@@warriorboltz8817 Real leaders put the needs of their people ahead of their own. Regardless of his pas, this is why Mithrax deserves to be the Kell of Kells.

Chelchis, the most badass Kell to ever live. Threw hands with Oryx one-on-one for three while days to buy time for his people -and everyone else on Riis- to evacuate. He's probably the biggest reason the Eliksni still exist.

@@RavenWolffe77 she

@@torunsmok5890 Huh? Pretty sure the lore depicted Chelchis as a dude...

Celchis the Gigakel

@@RavenWolffe77 And that kell was turned into a gun by oryx. The Chelchis's doom scout rifle is literally him.

fallen virgin vs Hive Chad

House Salvation sigil also works as its a combination of the sigils of the 4 major houses from Destiny 1. Also cause Dusk isn't really a house

Yeah I think House Dusk is the Eliksni way of categorizing all unaffiliated Fallen raider groups.

@@nitothefunkybunch6938 House dusk is now the generic Fallen. House Salvation are the more violent and hostile Fallen. House Light are the Eliksni that don't want to fight and help the Last City.

I think House Light is the better representative, as it embodies the ideal of becoming the Eliksni of old again.

@@nitothefunkybunch6938 House Dusk is a house. Mithrax referred to them as such in Season of the Splicer, and you saying such is a slap in the face to the fact they were *literally mentioned* as a House from the old days in Forsaken. Every Destiny simp’s favorite expansion, for some reason

Technically, they are. Considering their origins, the Scorn are basically the Eliksni equivalent of Zombies.

@@ShawndaPrawn Orks*

@Riskrunner They built it on top of Eventide, it is quite literally a scavenged city

They are impressive engineers. I will give them that. They can adapt their technology to whatever they scavenge and jury-rig some impressive stuff. Human, Cabal, even Hive technology.

I see what you did, and for that you deserved my like sir

Eliksni. Not fallen. Xenos, not Heretics. Important distinction.

Better interrogate them anyway, the warp works in strange ways

@@martinford4553 no need. Just eat their brains. Astartes learn from consumes brain tissue. They cannot be redeemed as Xenos.

@@Deridus they can’t repent. They can only die by the hands of the God-Emperor’s Servants!

What is duragtory

@@lukesalvidge118 He means derogatory. 'Fallen' is like a Human-made slur. Eliksni is the species name.

Misraaks himself conceded that the term is adequate as his species has indeed fallen far from grace. The Fallen are a twisted mockery of what the Eliksni once were. He formed the house of light because he realised that changing their ways away from barbarism is the only way to save his people - both phyisicaly and mentaly.

how about xeno scum

No. To eradicate prejudice you must acknowledge the "humanity" for want of a better word of all members of a group that prejudice is directed towards. The house of Salvation are still Eliksni and they must be acknowledged as their own people with their own histories, values and desires, even as you mow them down in the dozens across the system.

You mean the Tharks? They might have 4 arms, but arent they closer to the Na'vi from Avatar due to their primitiveness?

I was thinking that when they mentioned the 4 arms. I read most of the John Carter books after I stopped playing Destiny. The Fallen have more in common with the Tharks then the Na'vi. Tharks were a fallen race too having access to tech, but also cannibalizing most of what they used

@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat Just reread the books, also they have made some new ones that are good. Just drink the movie away

@@Odin79_LTD I've never read the books, have no access to Alcohol, and the Movie was underrated so why?

The vex video would literally be: "We have no idea what they're about. It's in the name. They're time traveling robot things and that's all we know for sure and even then we can't be certain about it and my head hurts"

@@BoisegangGaming "And they like to spread milk everywhere. That milk turns every single thing to them."

My Name Is Byf has in-depth lore vids on the Hive if you're interested. His video "Dynasty" goes into the origins and the Hive Gods. It's well worth the watch if you have time to spare.

*"REPENT, MOTHERFU--"**

REEEPEEEEEEEENT!!!!!

_DID SOMEONE JUST SAY “MURDER THE TEMPLIN INSTITUTE VIOLENTLY?!”_

Sorry, Dark Angels: wrong type of Fallen.

I fear that, in her naive curiosity, she will stumble into matters she isn't ready for.

I foresee her as the possible Kell of Kells

@@Mediados Maybe. Here's hoping she grows up very fast and that any hard truths make her wise and understanding instead of bitter and dark like Eramis.

I dont think shes a daughter of eramis, since Misraaks found her as a hatchling abandoned in a ship iirc

@@careydaniels310 I wouldn’t put that past their writing team. Especially since Destiny is just a retelling of Paradise Lost when you look at the bigger picture

Well right now In the story we have a group of eliksni called the house of light that are with us in the last city they are a group of eliksni who worship the traveler and they do not attack humans but the humans were not happy with them living in the last city and have committed some hate crimes

The Traveler's concept of good and bad is beyond human comprehension.

@@deriznohappehquite doesn’t threaten, actually does. There’s a difference. The guardian only stops her before the ritual can’t be reversed. That’s what the web in the final mission is for.

"When"? Why would the Traveler leave? There's no evidence that'll happen. The lore books Unveiling, Constellations, Dreams of Alpha Lupi, and the Hidden Dossier contain evidence of the opposite.

@@equestrianmidnight5619 It left before didn't it? The Eliksni were the Guardians before us. Before the Eliksni, there was the race of the moons of Fundament. It left 2 races to rot already and preferred using it's power to tp away instead of strengthening them. Now it imbued Savathun with the Light and pitched us in a fight against her, most likely to see who would make the better Guardians. It is only a matter of time until the Traveller decides we aren't worth saving either.

@@Mediados Your comment is based on slippery slope fallacies and faulty assumptions. In order: No, the Eliksni were never Guardians, there's no lore stating they were. They just had their civilization uplifted, their own version of a "Golden Age". Humanity were the first to be given the Light as per the argument to prove to the Darkness that when given power, we would choose to "build a gentle kingdom ringed in spears and not fall to temptation and not surrender to division", to quote the Traveler from the book of Unveiling. The race of Fundament were the Krill, which later became the Hive because the Witness lied to them and said that a "God-Wave" was coming. The Traveler wanted to uplift them, but because the Witness convinced the Krill to seek out the Deep via the lie, they were corrupted by Darkness first. You learn this in the Witch Queen campaign, Ikora sees it how it happened in a vision. The Traveler did not pitch us in a fight against Savathun. She showed up on Mars with her ship and we left to investigate. Savathun was revived as part of a plan for her to abandon the Dark as she did not like the deal of having a parasite that must be fed or else it devours you. The Hive were going to be uplifted from the very start, but it couldn't thanks to the parasite. You can't exactly bring a Golden Age to a race that thinks murder is justified. That's against the Traveler's philosophy. It’s also worth noting that when the Traveler left the Throne World, it could’ve decided to bounce. But it didn’t. It went right back to our city. EDIT: I mistakenly thought the Krill were supposed to be Lightbearers, they weren't, they were just supposed to be uplifted and have their own Golden Age. Edited for clarification. The rest of my post is accurate, though. I know a lot of people want to believe the narrative that the Traveler is some self-serving, evil space orb that thinks this is just a game and/or it is unfeeling and purely a machine caught in a battle with another. It's easy to judge something that won't defend itself and take its silence as admission. But the truth, a truth that is supported by the lore, is that the Traveler is a very benevolent entity that encourages all life to thrive and cooperate with each other. The Witness is the complete antithesis. EDIT 2: 5 days and no response. Damn shame. :(

@@equestrianmidnight5619 Why do you think the Traveler abandoned the Fallen but not humanity?

Azrael:"Sadly these Xenos existing in a different universe,so we can't purge them.not yet..."

He's just that guy

The Scorn are still lead by Fikrul though. The Scorn arent exactly like the Hive. The Hive are basically a magical cult, but they still have free-will and individuality. The Scorn have none of that. Nothing happens without the Necromancer Fikrul puppeting their actions. Massive Scorn named "The Fanatics Chosen" have also been seen in the canonically-repeating mission "Preservation" so the choices to ally with Xivu Arath, Calus, and ultimately the Witness were most-likely under Fikrul's choices.

@@jakespacepiratee3740 Yes but only especially powerful Darkness entities could even allow the Scorn into Savathun's Throne World, leaving entities like The Witness and Rhulk as prime candidates. And only because they allowed the first Scorn in could they establish a beachhead and open portals to get more Scorn through. The Fanatic is undoubtedly still around, but his importance to Black Fleet operations and the War of Light and Dark has taken a backseat. He is merely responsible for the creation of more Scorn but is not the principle commander anymore.

@@UnseenBubby How has the Fanatic's involvement taken a backseat when The Fanatic's Chosen were in Rhulk's Pyramid Ship commanding Scorn? People over-obsess with Fynch's lines about the Fanatic but he never said Fikrul got usurped, just that Rhulk's power let the Scorn in. Even if the Fanatic isnt in the Throne World, he knows whats going on and has no established reason to dislike the forces of Darkness when he literally has Darkness in his ether.

@@jakespacepiratee3740 I didn't say the Fanatic isn't important, and his own personal chosen forces are indeed active in the Throne World and therefore pieces to be removed from the board. But using a chess metaphor, the Fanatic is a Rook or Knight, while the Witness is the King. Definitely a powerful piece that should be removed when an opportunity presents itself or as required for our own more immediate defenses, but he is not the principal commander of the Darkness aligned forces we are fighting. If the goal is to defeat the Witness, or at least prevent a Second Collapse, then an ultimately temporary defeat of Fikrul is not a high priority, not when there are far more powerful and active pieces on the board. People like Calus are much more significant threats, taking the forms of the Queen and Bishops that are challenging us more directly. Besides, Fikrul is functionally immortal, and no matter how many times he is killed the amount of Scorn popping up has not apparently slowed. So why waste energy fighting Fikrul when the Scorn will seemingly keep coming. We will have better progress challenging other powerful pieces while figuring out how to permanently kill Fikrul moves to the back burner.

@@UnseenBubby Holy fuck this is too long. Im not reading all of this. The only point I wanted to make is that the Scorn are mindless creatures so any choice 'they' made like allying with Xivu Arath or allying with Rhulk was the Fanatic's choice. Any claim you have seen of 'The Witness is in contest with the Fanatic' was just Byf conspiratizing with no evidence, and if you are gonna just say things with no direct or indirect evidence, here is one, Fikrul could easily become a Disciple considering the interest the Witness is taking in the Scorn.

former 'Inevitable' victors/dominators of Every passed [Flower Game] Long before the Great Struggle.... so far as since their existential emergence as those said-Patterns anyways. against Every 'other works' (like us for example) other than their own preferred suggestion, from before.

Not just a Single 'uni'verse, Keep in mind. Everyone.

whosoever among those [Light]-reforged ones, and has been Risenly chosen to consider immediately Siding with the [Light]'s instead: well, those Few are true Lightbearing Guardians anyways even before some Physical establishing of that metropolitan settlement under the watchful [Traveler].

I’d gladly take an Elder Scrolls style game instead of this MMO BS. Just for the meaningful choices. I actually quite agree with how the morally black and grey characters think and act. Do I get to do anything like that? No, I’m Zavala’s hit man. Didn’t care when Cayde died, but I still go on a person quest for vengeance? How about cutting our dependency on the traveler? Nah, stasis bad, but I’ll allow it this once.

@@CMTechnica Technically the guardians have been weary of the Traveller ever since it gave Savathun the Light. We just keep the Traveller for it is the best weapon against the arriving Witness. We are still able to use whatever powers we want like the Light subclasses and stasis, since as the Stranger said, "They are tools". Heck we are even getting a new darkness subclass by Lightfall.

mah first strike

Nope. Destiny 1 is not only still up and running, but 2 raids from D1 have actually made their way to D2.

@@zdude0127 Wait really? I would have expected them to shut down the severs by now, okay cool, now I just need to pray and hope someone can archive the assets in time before it ACTUALLY shuts down forever.

I got tired of a game that tries to monopolize your time. But the setting was rather fun

@@PantherCat64 look man Destiny 1 and 2 are going to be around for quite a while. But if you're that concerned with them being shut off just go and play them. D1 is super cheap, and D2 is free to try on all major platforms except Switch. The developers say they plan on supporting the series for a very long time and have no plans on shutting them down anytime soon.

​@@CringeMe1ster But they also require online servers to work. Meaning that they'll EVENTUALLY die with no way to ever play them again unless either Bungie has a end of life plan or we archive it now while they're in a playable state. If Bungie goes out of business tomorrow for whatever reason, they're both gone forever. The game's environment and worlds are fantastic and you never know what or who will be inspired next by it. Someone that could make a fantastic piece of work that could change history as we know it but needs this small spark of imagination might even be born yet. I'm not concerned about me not playing it again, I'm worried about no one will ever play it again in the future long after I'm dead.

And they are physically childrens.

Witch Queen is fantastic. At least play that.

@@zdude0127 it’s a fantastic way to burn money

R/Whoosh

the third one is a true gamer 🤣

Guardian 1 is a blueberry Guardian 2 just ran Grasp of Avarice for the first time. Guardian 3 has a problem

_Make him _*_repent,_*_ Asmodai._

Good thing you can now view lore tabs in game in destiny 2

Dont worry they have already done them.

the templin institute does nothing SCP related because reasons

@@ranbojd1070 probably because there’s approximately 8 million channels that already do SCP lore content

@@DarthNicky no its not because that its because there is no canon timeline the concept is Easy to explain But It doesnt make Up for the usual content the institute makes you cant exactly make an investigation if there is no canon events or origins in some universes the SCP foundation has an origin based in a point in history while in others the SCP foundation has been mentored by another SCP foundation in an infinite multiverse its fucking sucks