The FATE of Every KOTOR Companion 

I promise, I really thought this video would be like... 6 minutes long, but alas. At least Juhani was tragically killed though, right guys?

I love how HK-47 kept looking for Revan long after the expected life span of a human being. The dude just doesn't give up on his missions.

While I'm not a companion, the truth of what happened to me is I faked my death on the Star Forge and waited till Revan walked away to get up and get the hell out of there before it blew. I got surgery to have a realistic looking prostectic jaw so I could chew my food, and I've been hanging around the Twilek healing baths ever since

Man, this brings me back. KOTOR 2 had one of the most underappreciated storylines ever. Kreia especially had incredible motive if you took the time to gain her loyalty. To me it felt the same as New Vegas - a studio with impeccable writing rushed to meet the deadline of a major franchise, and buggy gameplay tarnishing the release. But ultimately the REAL fanbase kept the game alive to see its full potential realized.

They really should have done more with companions like Mira and Bao Dur outside the game. Especially with the plotline of rebuilding the order.

"Great news...I'm pregnant!" "Wow...um...that's great, but I have to go fight a hidden threat in the unknown regions....yeah to protect you and the baby..."

Juhani and Jolee Bindo were supposed to work together to find Revan in the Unknown Regions... I believe it says exactly that in the game... it then says that Jolee and Juhani disappeared while looking for Revan...

Including Atris because she was a cut companion was a nice touch.

Somehow i really love the fact, that Canderous the Manderous did go full Mandalorian. He kinda refuses to die or vanish after the first game and reappears in the second, that is how awesome this character is. Sad though, that he did die after Kotor 2 by a literal headshot (probably)...

lol Kreia being in love with the Emperor is such a terrible idea that it's kind of funny.

15:16 It's easy to miss, BUT if you gain enough influence with Kreia to where she's teaching you how to read surface thoughts, when you get to Bao Dur she is _unable_ to read his thoughts in that particular moment *but you can* and her prior dialogue was even a little speculative on him. You can choose to tell her about it, or not (because you may not completely trust her). If you do decide to tell her she will say some lines similar to Palpatine in ROTJ. Something along the lines of "Are you sure about what you're sensing of the alien?" When you answer in the affirmative she will respond "Strange that I have not". It is similar to where Vader is telling Palpatine that Luke is with the band of rebels on Endor moon. So even for all Kreia's clairvoyant abilities, she couldn't read Bao-Dur like the Exile, even though she clearly knows his drive has something to do with guilt of the unresolved past in how he follows the Exile. In a cutscene either on the non-canonical-to-EU dark side gameplay, or of cut content, Bao Dur tried to eject Kreia off the ship because he notices she has a negative influence on the Exile. She rebuffs him as she incapacitated him and it's revealed she clearly knows about his guilt about the mass shadow generator. This, to me implies the developer clearly only intended for Kreia to have an intel-based edge on the zabrak as opposed to a force based advantage. As to what it means? It just furthers the notion his fate was uncertain instead of definitively dying on Telos' underground HK droid production plant.

This is awesome. I think picking each person’s theme song in the background was a great touch! Got me emotional thinking about a few of them!

I am massive Star Wars lore enthusiast, and I've followed your work for a long time now, and I cannot state enough how much I appreciate your honesty. Your diligence and hard work and attention to minor details within the lore, Your careful consideration of how you word things, and your overall presentation style is absolutely inspiring. May the force be with you.

I’d love for a book series by the KOTOR creators that fully explores Jolee’s life, including his post-KOTOR adventures. Maybe it can close the book on Juhani as well. I also want to say how much I hate what STOR did to KOTOR 1&2 characters

Hey, buddy. Stumbled across some of your videos the other day. Binged through a bunch. You’ve inspired me to play through kotor and kotor 2 again. I’ll likely have to fight the urge to reinstall swtor as well. Thanks!

I'm not exactly on board with how they ended some of the characters in swotor. Especially Revan's story. Man can dream for a kotor 3 with the remake of 1 hopefully reigniting interest to continue the series.

Thank you, man, for this video. Star wars and then Kotor/Kotor 2 helped me through some tough time and I am so happy to find a channel with content on these wonderful characters

For Bao-Dur, he is mentioned during the Makeb storyline of SWTOR, where some scientists are talking and one mentions the Bao-Dur science academy. With this, I assume after KOTOR II he went in to establish that academy and did a lot of science stuff

As long as the entity is not confirmed as Kreia I defy the idea that they are the same character

It’s always bugged me that Carth doesn’t get mentioned even once in the Revan novel

Catherine Taber (Missions voice actress) says she believes Vette from Star Wars: The Old Republic is descended from Mission. Helps that they have the same voice!

Does anyone else hate what Bioware did to Revan and the exile? Revan being imprisoned for hundreds of years and then getting his soul split into his light side and dark side is ridiculous, and the exile just gets stabbed in the back like a punk. They deserved far better.

The Revan book and Swtor are such a disservice to this story. Backstab one of the greatest Star Wars characters ever written, and ruin Revan’s arc of “falling out of necessity” and making him and the “hidden threat” generic bad guy Sith. Such a shame.

My thought’s on their fate’s. Bastila Shan - Best ending for the character, nice to see Bastila focused on her and Prodigal Knight Revan’s family. Carth Onasi - Good until the ending. Jolee Bindo - Fitting and make sense but do wish we found out but I think it’s better to leave it. Juhani - Make sense but unfortanate (misspelling). HK-47 - Got confused, too messy so no. T3M4 - No Kreia - Don’t think that character was Kreia, better to have that be a different character and leave Kreia as her own. Atton Rand - Great for him, didn’t know he’d be a Jedi Master, that’s amazing. Visas Marr - Great ending for Visas Marr to come at peace, happy ending for her. Mical Dispile - Well good for him, don’t think he’d be a Grand Master. Bao Dur - I hope he did become a Jedi honestly. Mira - Good ending. Brianna - Nice, now she’s a teacher. Atris - Well that’s unfortanate (misspelling). G0T0-Heck-no - Not really interested. Hanharr - Idk Bao Dur remote - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. So, some character’s ending I like, some other’s no, some NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Rest in peace, T3

Revan's spirit didn't actually become one with the force after the swtor shadow of revan expansion. His spirit made another appearance in the echoes of oblivion expansion, explaining that as long as a part of valkorion survived, he couldn't become one with the force because...reasons. Just thought I'd mention that.

The fate of the exile in SWTOR tells me "In the end its doesn't even matter" im quite disappointed to the exile in SWTOR. Like Bruhhh After all we've been through in KOTOR 2 it will end... Just like that!? And i was like WHO WROTE the exile fate in SWTOR? xD

Another great video. I'm actually in the process of replaying KOTOR for the first time since like 2005 and all of these years later, with how much more Star Wars lore I possess, I'm finding it even more enjoyable.

Bao-Dur went on to be honored with a science and engineering award named after him.

During a recent vid I watched, Bao-Dur supposedly died during the Battle of Telos, after The Exile and Co defeated Darth Nihilus. I always assumed, and as you said, Bao-Dur survives to reform the Jedi Order alongside the rest of the KOTOR companions, so I’m a little confused about Bao-Dur’s true fate. Alas, great vid, as always

I had to do a double take since I read the title as "Every FATE KOTOR companion" and thought "Hell yeah! Fate/Star Wars here we go!" Oh well.. Loved the video. After stories for characters can be really interesting outside of their games. Poor best boi T3..

You talked about Atris although she wasn't a companion, so I think Yuthura deserves a mention too, as early in development she was planned to become a companion. I know that you could turn her back to the light side and meet up with her again on Dantooine. In which case she most likely died to Malak's bombardment. But is there anything to her story if she was turned good after the destruction of the Academy on Dantooine?

I remember playing swtor, and finding the HK-47 boss in the Malgus operation. It left me chilling, it felt surreal. Kinda like if you met someone from a past life who was once a friend but now an enemy. It felt bad having to kill him in the game, a part of me wishing there was just some way I could spare him but alas I couldn't. I played kotor on my old macbook before I ever played swtor, so a lot of the kotor stuff leaves me with chills. I never knew that it was a rebuilt HK-47 or about the foundry bit until this video.

I think it should be note-worthy that Visas Marr at some point has children or another member of her family survived katarr or was never there since there is a Miraluka named Adeline Marr in the Old Republic, who was sent to kill the Bounty Hunter/Champion of the Great Hunt at a celebratory party on Nar Shaddaa.

I love how KOTOR lore is shrouded in mystery and the only way to learn the full story is to literally be a part of it. That’s good game design and PHENOMENAL storytelling.

I really feel like the Revan book and The Old Republic did most of these characters dirty, particularly Bastila, Carth, the Jedi Exile. Everything KOTOR 2 set up felt so interesting and then the Old Republic Rise-of-Skywalker-ed the whole thing.

I remember a theory that the voice in the Malachor temple during Star Wars Rebels was Kreia.

If only we got the third kotor maybe all the companions could be together for the final game

Love the reference to HK-47 on Mustafar as part of the SWG lore. Awesome video

Didn't Zalbaar become chieftain eventually? As for Juhani...I'd say odds are maybe 75:25 that she got killed

Thanks for the explantaion, I'll never playing SWTOR before (bcause it's an MMO game and i don't like it) but now i know what happened to Revan, Meetra and their companion's after KOTOR 1&2. Once again thank you, and may the force be with you :)

9:00 - I'm surprised you didn't go into the cut content from Kotor 2. HK-47 had a quest hunting down the HK-50 droids that led him back to the factory that made him.

Such a great video! I wish we knew more about the rebuilt Jedi order, but this helped put the pieces in place.

Thank you for doing this, no one else has made a summary like this

OMFG This video I randomly go in the feed showed me that I actually never finished KOTOR 2. As I thought beyond a shadow of a doubt that you played as Revan in that one too. I-I need to go download it RIGHT NOW

Thanks for this my guy. Needed the refresher

Really great video! I think topics like this are super interesting and not at all well talked about. Keep up the great content!

A lot of people ask "where were you during 9.11?" It could be interesting to see a video focused where every character in kotor 1/2 were during Malachor V. It was such a tipping point, that a lot people could link their own past to it. Directly or indirectly, one way or another. A pivotal point, but unfortunately it's difficult to map out where exactly all the people were exactly. Comments here or there from people are difficult to remember.

Wooooohooo the video I’ve been waiting for! Let’s goooo!

Loved this video my dude I’m currently playing kotor 1 again I have played the second game so many times as it was all I had in childhood but now that they’re both on switch I’m living the dream

Atton used his Jedi powers to exploit the pro pazaak circuit

Appreciate the full vid man.

Well done on a complete story conclusion. Subbed (old KOTOR games and COMIC fan).

Great video brother. Much respect.

Thank you for doing this video. I never liked Swotor, but loved Kotor and Kotor 2 a lot, so knowing what happened with those beloved characters is really cool for me.

Excelent video!!👍👍👍👍👏👏👏

Great vid! Here's hoping for some more, really good Kotor games. 👍

Between the characterization of Meetra in the Revan novel, the fact that he thought that this random spirit in SWTOR was actually Kreia, and the fact that Meetra is taken aback by the emptiness on Natheema in the Revan novel even though her entire story in KOTOR 2 revolves around her being cut off from the Force…I’m convinced that Drew Karpyshyn never really understood KOTOR 2.

i just beat kotor 1 for the first time yesterday and instantly started a dark side playthrough straight after, so the timing of this video is perfect

A video on the fates of the companions of dark side path kotor would be interesting. The ones that stayed alive anyways (poor Mission 😭). I always wondered what happened to Carth after he saw 16 year old Mission get killed, said "screw this, I'm out of here"

I think the criticism you had for SWTOR’s portrayal of Kreia equally applies to Revan and the Exile. I enjoyed SWTOR, but it shat on the legacies of the KOTOR cast.

I imagine Jolee finding a way to become one with the force,Ben Kenobi style, as he came off as a very enlightened character.

Definitely needed this!

Would honestly love a full video on just Canderous alone. He's one of my favorite's. But i don't know if there's really enough to warrant a full video though.

14:42 I'm surprised that the Disciple (and the Lost Jedi in general) NEVER got referenced in either of SWTOR's Jedi storylines. It would've made loads of sense for him (or Brianna) to have been one of the Jedi archived within the special type of holocrons that the Jedi Consular finds in the Coruscant part of the Prologue for their storyline. Also I'm not sure if all the Holocron gatekeepers in those quests were pre established Jedi or the only preexisting characters there were Arca Jeth and Nomi from Tales of the Jedi, and Bastila and Vandar from KOTOR 1 but if the others were created just for that quest then they could've just replaced them with KOTOR 2 characters.

Another video on the alternate future of the KoTOR 2 characters? I'm talking of course about their dark side stories.

Ayo nobody better dis my boy REMOTE he's a God among companions

This shows well how convoluted TOR story is.

Love the videos!

There is an award with Bao-Dur's name mentioned in SWTOR so I think he lived a little longer.

This is very useful for the spanish star wars fans like me who likes learning English, and sw kotor content as well

I had a wonderful time with this video.

Good job!

I’ve been looking forward to this

Great! Its perfect for nighty watching before sleep

Revan's companions all got holostatues on Corellia.

Great video, what do you use to make your videos?

Banger video

Brought back lots ofvlosr memories great video ibforgot a lotofvwhat happened to most ofvthem

i read someone cant remember that all of the Exiled Companions was actually push to their death by the surviving jedi council that joined their rebuilding, specially Mira that died brutally.

Love your content mate

I knew pretty much all of this but it's a nice summary. Damn, this is good when summarized. That kotor/tor lore is probably better than the all of the 'canon' now

im glad bao-dur's remote gets the recognition they deserve

I also believe Kreia is the spirit that Ezra hears in the holocron in Rebels. Not confirmed, but it satisfies my head canon nevertheless.

These games are so unmatched on a story level I still play them and wish there was more to discover in a game sense

I read on Wookiepedia that the company that made training remotes was created 870 something years before the movies. If this is true, and no other company made them beforehand then that would make Bao-Dur the creator of the Jedi training remotes in Legends, and would be a considerable contribution to the Jedi Order including his knowledge on lightsaber construction which was likely only known to him, Meetra, Bastila, and Revan post KOTOR 2.

This the kind of content I love to see

Great video

It's a shame swtor shafted so many of the original characters because the game actually is really good. The fact its still getting content 8-9 years after release should make that pretty clear, like next to wow it's one of the longest running mmo out there. It's sad about the legacy characters but if you can look past that, I would highly recommend giving the game a go.

My headcanon is that Juhani and Jolee returned to Kashyyyk after the destruction of Katarr and waited out the dark wars in the shadowlands.

What's uniquely Kreia: (a) she hates the Force, loves the Exile, and plays these two dynamics against each other as betrayal; (b) she's missing her left hand, and her eyes have atrophied, but she replaces her abilities through the Force and acknowledges her own reliance on it; (c) she's really annoyed by pointless acts of evil as well as short-term good and is the ultimate "both sides" sceptic. I don't see any of that in the Entity; so, she can't be Kreia.

I’m a simple man. I see, and click.

The very idea of Kreia being this big black spoopy scary ghost that makes scary voice speeches is the complete opposite of Kreia. In the game her highest skills, Mical spent a very long time on the Ebon Hawk not even knowing she was aboard at all. Kriea was never outwardly scary or in your face, she was an anonomly to Jedi and Sith and even to those ignorant or untouched by the force. You the player couldn't even figure her out in one playthrough. I'm so happy she has gained a cult following, because this character was not meant to be popular or marketed, she was meant to be in the shadows, she was meant to be a ghost figuratively speaking.

Huh, neat! It would have been nice to know about certain side characters though. Carth’s son, bastila’s mother, Zalbarr if he ever returned to become a chief of his tribe, and Mission’s brother: Griff. Part of me wishes those characters got some exposition or hints at their final fates would have been nice.

I like to think HK-47 went on to help found the new Jedi Order and it's a copy that ends up dying.

That was awesome!

None of this could of been possible without T3 same as r2. Those droids are something else

feel like with so much lore and effort going into this universe, there 100% needs to be a really good sires or set of films on all of this, so it can finally be accepted as canon again

I’m think a lot of KOTOR fans that hate SWTOR don’t realize that there is a SEVEN year gap between KOTOR 2 and SWTOR’s release date. SWTOR didn’t kill KOTOR 3. Executives had already screwed with KOTOR 2’s production

It was very interesting😊