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The Female Eunuch by Germaine Greer | Book Discourse 

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What does society deem the ideal woman? "She absolutely must be young, her body hairless, her flesh buoyant, and 'she must not have a sexual organ'." The virgin maiden. The female eunuch. Germaine Greer argues that the woman who demands sexual autonomy becomes a social outcast. This designation, done under the false reality that is patriarchy, disallows either gender of truthful expression. Let's discuss.
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@ASMRyouVEGANyet
@ASMRyouVEGANyet 2 года назад
This needs more views and more people need to read Germaine's books. She's excellent!
@jimisru
@jimisru 6 лет назад
The first thing that crossed my mind was The Elder Eunuch! Once we reach a certain age we are supposed to be gentle invisible sexless humans. We can be the cause of much humor with our absentminded silly ways, but we can not express our sexuality one we are over sixty. That is just icky.
@theblackponderer
@theblackponderer 6 лет назад
That's why that sitcom "The Golden Girls" was so great. The characters' sexual autonomy was front and center and it wasn't icky just because they were elderly women.
@nicknack191
@nicknack191 6 лет назад
Damn you really put things in perspective for me! Looking forward to your videos in 2018 man
@tristanbruns5968
@tristanbruns5968 6 месяцев назад
Nice review. Thanks!
@mixorin
@mixorin 6 лет назад
Happy new year Black Ponderer!
@theblackponderer
@theblackponderer 6 лет назад
Happy 2018!
@AnupamBhogal
@AnupamBhogal 6 лет назад
Happy New Year!!
@magigurl755
@magigurl755 5 лет назад
2019! Ty for this! Interesting!
@JoshuaKaluba
@JoshuaKaluba 6 лет назад
Black Ponderer still going strong in 2018 god bless
@nothernranger1018
@nothernranger1018 6 лет назад
Happy New Year! I would recommend reading the book called "The Predatory Female: A Field Guide to Dating and the Marriage-divorce Industry".
@karransingh8002
@karransingh8002 2 года назад
Nice commentary
@KanafanisGhost
@KanafanisGhost 4 года назад
mate you should make a podcast !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@theblackponderer
@theblackponderer 4 года назад
It probably is a good idea to at least convert my videos into a podcast format.
@juliaalvares7563
@juliaalvares7563 6 лет назад
Read "Orientalism", by Edward Said! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientalism_(book)
@postmodernityarmageddon
@postmodernityarmageddon 6 лет назад
I'm reading Zizek's "The Plague of Fantasies" That's goes over the Object of Desire whose role is contradictory because for the desire to ever be realized would remove that object from its position so it must always delay gratification. It's very much like "the eternal woman". "The objectified woman " you might also say the commodified woman. Sexuality in Marxist terms is sublimed from the Subject, the woman into an idealized and prepackaged term. " To be sexual is to be male" isn't this also the commidification of sexuality. The male is also idealized and prepackaged. Male identity becomes sublimed from the man as subject. In both cases it works to transform the citizen into the consumer. There's a BBC documentary about this which I highly recommend called the Century of Self. It goes over the development of consumerism. It also goes over this focus on Freudian psychoanalysis in today's society. I promise you you'll really like it if you liked this book. "Adam loving himself" Zizek talks about this also. The Subject uses fantasy to deny the desires of the other so that the other becomes a tool for the subjects jouissance. Lacan goes over this "not being able to love yourself" from childhood we're the object of other peoples idealizations. The child is forced to share their own position with their idealized positions. The parents see not only the child but what their expectations, so also the teachers and other adult figures. In this way we're introduced to the dominant ideology and learn to incorporate it into our self identity. This ideological self or Ego-ideal is the self we recognize as the self. He goes on to make an interesting point that not all of the self can be processed into the imaginary some of it is left over within the traumatic real. He calls this the objet petit a. We are made up of these two parts, the subjective self and the unsubjectifiable self, the self which is both the​ self yet alien to the self. Lacanian psychoanalytics is pretty interesting. If you enjoy reading unreadable books you'd like him. Also read Lenin.
@theblackponderer
@theblackponderer 6 лет назад
I think you may be missing the point of this text. Germaine Greer is not simply saying that society commodifies women. Greer is saying that modern civilization socially castrates women. This has more implication than just being unattainable objects of desire. This means that womens' true selves are overwritten by false social definitions. And that results in women unable to realize their true potential in civilization.
@postmodernityarmageddon
@postmodernityarmageddon 6 лет назад
Maybe I didn't explain it well enough. In Freudian terms it would be called castration. In Lacanian terms the commodified self rejects what doesn't fit into it. So I agree with you. Say everyone is playing the same role such as store clerk. This role represses all excess of personality beyond itself. What characterizes a person isn't what fits into the stereotype but what exceeds it, but when the stereotypical role becomes the only acceptable role to play this excess is castrated, if you enjoy Freud's language. Lacan would say that it becomes excluded from subjectivity. The real self becomes excluded from how you identify yourself.
@theblackponderer
@theblackponderer 6 лет назад
Okay. I just want to reiterate the main takeaways from "The Female Eunuch." The term "eunuch" is used purposefully over other terms to highlight the sexual nature of the subordination of women, whereas the female sex drive is only acknowledged when it is under the service of men. The female sex drive is not acknowledged when it acts in service of the woman, when it doesn't subordinate. Hence the sex drive of the woman is only socially acceptable under male domination. So this is specifically a feminist argument. The condition does not apply universally across all genders and sexes.
@jimisru
@jimisru 6 лет назад
Third thought...This is why some gay philosophers have argued that homosexual relationships differ from the typical heterosexist norm. Heterosexist society ignores so much science and culture to maintain this false structure, but that does not mean reality goes away. Another book worth reading on this topic is Radically Gay, about Harry Hay.
@theblackponderer
@theblackponderer 6 лет назад
Heteronormativity is ultimately a means to maintain patriarchy, which is itself a false reality. There is a difference between reality and truth. Realities, like heteronormativity can feel very true because of strong social reinforcement despite being false. While realities like homosexuality are true yet are deemed false by social outcasting.
@sarahharris2729
@sarahharris2729 6 лет назад
+The Black Ponderer you've got that really wrong. heteronormativity is the simple out playing of nature. gender, sex and orientation has only one purpose, to create and sustain the raising of children. heteronormativity discourse that doesn't mention children can automatically be relegated to the trash heap. Without children, everything is out of context. hetersexual relationships are more difficult but are ultimately more rewarding than homosexual ones. the psychology between two homosexual men or women is more similar between parties. between men and women that identify on opposite ends of the sex and gender spectrum, have a more difficult time but ultimately a more challenging student/teacher relationship between the couple if they can put the egos aside. the potential to grow into something else more than the self both personally and outside the self (children) makes it a rewarding experience for both parties if they don't abuse their positions but take it as an opportunity to grow.
@theblackponderer
@theblackponderer 6 лет назад
Sarah Harris, do you happen to know personally any people who are in a homosexual relationship?
@sarahharris2729
@sarahharris2729 6 лет назад
+The Black Ponderer yes, but I love the deflection here. the point is, you shit on a family structure that is essential to society. homosexual relationships cease tomorrow and the world still turns.
@jimisru
@jimisru 6 лет назад
I love the heterosexism here. Once again someone thinks heterosexuality is the norm and the moral default. Just because you think that does not make it true. Any study of biology would teach you otherwise.
@jimisru
@jimisru 6 лет назад
Second thought, she said that transgender women are not women. This seems to contradict the quote you read about gender, but she said it. May I suggest a wonderful book titled The Riddle of Gender. It was the most informative book I have read about gender.
@theblackponderer
@theblackponderer 6 лет назад
Yeah, Germaine Greer is transphobic which potentially undermines much of her feminist theory. Despite that, there is still useful insight from her gender study. Many important thinkers have deep insight but at the same time very bad ideas. Nietzsche's view of women or Freud's "Oedipus complex" come to mind.
@codeeater0
@codeeater0 2 года назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@blinkypushbuttons
@blinkypushbuttons 2 года назад
Yes men will never be women just like white people can never be black people.
@thecultofjohnnydelr.soulsw7010
@thecultofjohnnydelr.soulsw7010 4 года назад
This is not a woman.
@theblackponderer
@theblackponderer 4 года назад
Paradigm shift.
@codeeater0
@codeeater0 2 года назад
That is a gender inverted biological male. A Freemason plant who's role was to infect the minds of that generation of young woman. Greer is garbage.
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