The FGC Isn't Happy About The New BLEACH Fighting Game.. 

These are not fighting games. Not a FGC issue.

When did the FGC ever care about arena fighters? You barely see them at major tournaments. You might see some at your local tournaments in your city, but that's just from my experience.

Bleach is my favorite on the big 3. Im just happy to even get a bleach game in this day and age. I really want it just to be fun. I'm not expecting it to surpass sparking zero but I do hope they succeed with the game and not fail like jjk did.

It's not even that it's not a 2d, it's because these games don't be QUALITY, put more money into them, and don't be bull headed about online features ui, and mechanics AND NETCODE!!!!!

Kill La Kill If is by far the best arena fighter in terms of feeling like an actual competent fighting game, but it was unfortunately dead before it even released. I also think One's Justice is pretty solid, but there are things that annoy me about it. Overall, I like the IDEA of arena fighters and feel they have a lot of untapped potential; it's just that most of them are admittedly bad and shallow. As far as Clorox, I'm cool with it and in a way I'm glad it's an arena fighter because all the whining about arena fighters over the last 6 years has gotten beyond insufferable. Even moreso when the same people complaining just want every single thing to just be a fighterz clone or another generic open world game.

The companies that handle these games have a formula that works for the casuals. They will eat these games without complaints. The FGC is literally 0.1% of their Market. They don't care.

I promise. Shutting your brain off makes you enjoy games that you would have never considered playing.

If it's anything like Heat The Soul series, we should be in good hands. I remember enjoying Heat The Soul 4 back in the day

I'd prefer a 2d bleach fighter over 3d but im hyped. I simply hope for a decent combo system, online, and a lack of mechanics that let you escape combos without the use of resources like Jump Force. Also Jump's servers are still online, but it's just the ranked mode that's gone now

First off, Bleach being back in any capacity is hype for me. Secondly, Idk if this is a hot take or not but if there was any franchise that should play like the budokai games it would be bleach. I always found it weird that they zip around insanely fast basically fly and fight airborne and yet these games tend to have you grounded and relatively slow. It’s too early to know if this game is gonna be good or not, I really hope it is tho

People forget about the more competitive arena fighters like Virtual On and the Gundam Extreme VS series. Arena fighters can be just as deep as 2d or 3d fighters it's just about how well it's made. We live in a better time now, but there was a time 2d fighters were being pumped out and were trash same with 3d fighters hopefully arena fighters can stay consistently good.

The real concern should be if this game will give us fans the jiggles. And I mean ALL the jiggles, looking at Orihime, Rangiku, Yoruichi and my beloved Kukaku, who was one my anime crushes at the time.

Isn’t heat the soul a 3d fighting game? Like tekken and soulcalibur? It’s not halfway between a fighting game and an arena fighter it’s just a fighting game.

I was always open to the idea of anime area fighters in the fgc I was just waiting for them to get there shit together

FGC assumes every anime fighting game that releases need to be either FighterZ or Guilty Gear in terms of gameplay. I’ve seen a bit of this with Sparking Zero when Namco said the game is going to be realistically unbalanced meanwhile, FGC still praise some of the most unbalanced shit in classic fighting games cuz nostalgia.

It's a miracle that we are even getting a new Bleach game so no bitching is allowed imo😂 but seriously let's wait for more info about the game before passing judgement ✌️

One issue that the FGC needs to get over is that not every fighting game will be 2D like Street Fighter 6 or 3D like Tekken, Soul Calibur, or DoA. Sparking Zero is for sure a fighting game. To say it's not is just dumb. Now it's one thing to be against 1 button combo BS, It'd be cool if the Storm series had combos like Tekken or whatever, so that I agree on. But to say a game like Sparking Zero, Budokai, or Storm aren't fighting games is stupid. You literally are FIGHTING. They're literally called Arena FIGHTERS. Like the one thing Storm Connections did right was actually allowing combos and adding move scaling, etc. It's a start.

After the core value incident I don’t want the FGC anywhere close to my games.

Fighterz is good, but not every anime needs a game that follows that template. If that were the case, people would just end up complaining about saturation in that genre like they do with arena fighters.

I wish a dev would copy the pokken formula. People slept on that game hard.

the best arena fighting game of all time is dissdia 012 just wish it would get remastered and released on current hardware

Bandai Namco (a bad company I hate) has said that they want to focus on quality and canceled a bunch of games. But not this one. That at least is a sign they took some time with this game. Big companies love making apology games when their reputation gets bad enough. Capcom had to make like 10 in a row. Sparking Zero is defiantly one of those so maybe Rebirth of Souls is too.

The FGC would take arena fighters seriously if they took themselves seriously.

The Fgc complaining of course. Ain’t a problem, but it’s a new bleach game, like damn let the game breathe before it even comes out .

If this was Spike chunsoft developing it, you'd have a guaranteed failed game. They did The OPM arena fighting game. Earlier? Jump Force 2019. These Devs did Melty blood, and I've heard it was decent and had an okay FGC moment (I think?). Let's give these developers a chance to show us what they can do with it. Who knows, maybe they can revolutionize it and make it good. But they're usually hard to balance or to be... Good.

Back when Naruto Storm 2 first came out, it was long before we were swamped with these type of games and I remember thinking, at the time, that I'd love a Bleach game in that style that covers the story up until the defeat of Aizen. When that PS3 game came out and it was a Dynasty Warriors clone, I remember being disappointed. I'm far less of an anime fan now than I used to be, but playing this game will really take me back to simpler times. I'm looking forward to it, and I hope they don't screw it up.

I'm not familiar with Bleach but the powerscaling system reminds me of Capcom vs SNK back in the day and that slapped. You could have 4 Dans, Sakuras, Benimarus etc or a single Akuma or Rugal, and just mix and match to your preference. I'd be well up for that as a concept. Tactical choices, personal preferences and respect to lore in one. It'd be sick to see something like that in a Tekken Tag 3.

These are the same individuals who are hyped for Sparking Zero. How come there’s so much hype and hope for Dragon Ball Sparking Zero, but not for Rebirth of Souls?

I feel that arena fighters actually have a higher potential to 2D or 2.5D fighting games, but to actually nail it down seems to be a struggle for most developers. Budokai Tenkaichi 3 is still one of my favorite fighting games to this day. So, I don't instantly think of arena fighters in a negative light, but I do understand that more often then not that they are subpar cash grabs. This art style and fidelity of the game already look amazing so I'm hoping that this is just a sneak peak at what is to come. Also it appears that Ichigo parries Renji's attack, which if that's the case could speak to some deeper mechanics.

I can’t wait to see people shocked at the trailers that reveal more gameplay or special moves. I feel like people aren’t really acknowledging the quality that this game has

As someone that loves bleach, is a fan of 2d fighters and its not a fan of arena fighters I always held the belief that if we ever get a brand new Bleach game it HAS to be an arena fighter. Because Bleach has been out of the console videogame market for a hell of awhile, so they need to get as many people behind this game as possible, and it turns out arena fighters are loved by the casuals(seriously is the reason why we got so many). So with that logic it makes sense why it should be one. But the more important part is if its good and will it sell, because if it does we are definitely getting more Bleach games in the future, and hopefully Ill get that 2d Bleach fighter that I desperately want

Before getting into mechanics the games need betas for good netcode or rollback. Semantically you can call it a fighting game because the characters fight but does that matter if the devs don’t actually about your ability to fight people.

Sparking zero did one thing wrong: locking splitscreen behind one stage only. The offical excuse was bc of aesthetics "can't carry the same aesthetics in split screen"

Not every fighting game has to be a pro fighter because those costs a lot to make so you just gotta wait until they get the money to make fgc games

The fgc will glaze sparking zero, power stone, bushido blade, and many other pre 2010 arena fighters because thats before global brainrot propaganda turned them into mindless arena fighter hating drones that literally helped tank fighting game genre from the most popular gaming genre to barely surviving with their antics about staying in the 90s style of combat for literal ever. just say the words "arena fighter" and watch them flip a lid go into a frenzy and in the same breath watch them glaze a hopeful power stone 3 or any other pre 2010 arena fighter like custom robo, or heavy metal on the dreamcast, or virtual-on.

i wanted a DBFZ type of game for Bleach i'll try this one tho it might be good

i’m hyped for it, it’s been forever since a bleach game. i’ll see how it is and probably get if it’s good. same with sparkling zero. gotta give games a chance. haven’t played an arena fighter since jump force but they can be fun if done right.

The FGC loves Gundam Versus Maxiboost On. They show up at least in AnimEvo. We don't hate Arena Fighters, we hate the bad Arena fighters. Wjich was the majority of them. Give us more Gundam Versus, and less like Jump Force. And then we'll talk.

To Sparking Zero & the Bleach game… You are on this council, but we do not grant you the rank of competitive fighter

I don't understand, (anime) arena fighting games are technically fighting games (two characters, or groups of characters, fighting each other to deplete their other's health bar), just not in a traditional sense. That being said, a good amount of the stigma surrounding these games stem from them being understandably, catered to casuals and/or having its gameplay being usually designed in such a way in which the "meta" may not be enjoyable to play and or watch, especially for people in thr FGC/have experience with traditional fighting games. (Just watch Daz is Bambo's "A Deep Dive In Competitive Naruto Storm" video for reference). Funny enough, the (anime) FGC seems to have accepted the Gundam VS games and occasionally gets set up at majors here and there. (Honorable mention goes to the Kill la Kill game too, but the fact that Arc System Works was involved in some capacity, may have had a hand in that by virtue of the "halo effect" they have with the FGC, but deservedly so, thanks to their consistent track record with FGs).

Seen more people doom over this game in the fgc. Then seeing people in the fgc hype up the upcoming hunter game fighting game. Granted it doesn’t look that good visually but it’s by the people who did MVC3 and Tatsunoko vs Capcom. But anyway Im excited for bleach 🫡

I remember when Burst Limit came out. It majorly put me off how BL only went up to the Cell saga. I already had DBZ fatigue at the time, from completing story modes of Budokai 1-3, Tenkaichi 1-3 AND Infinite World. Oh hell no did I want a repeat of a Burst Limit 1-3. Fatigue so hard I skipped the entire PS3/360 era of DBZ until Xenoverse for the PS4.

Imma be real. Idc if they want a sweat fest over balanced game; fuck that . I want an anime fighter where characters are as canonically powerful or weak as they are in the show and solid polished gameplay with fun being the overall goal. I do not want some game where the weakest character in the show is as strong as they be strongest for the sake of tournaments . Fuck that. Anime fans deserve good games that are properly filled with fan service . Please don’t chase esports

I find it tragic that bleach's biggest criticism - that it could never escape the Soul Society arc - is proven so, so true by the marketing so far for this game: WE HAVE SEEN MORE OF THIS GAME'S HUD AND MECHANICS THAN SPARKING ZERO BUT NOT A SINGLE MENTION OF ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE SOUL SOCIETY ARC if the game doesn't ship with sternritters or tybw stuff at launch, it'll be such a pain in the ass, since that's the main reason I'd care. Not to mention the fact that there's basically no way they have the budget for a big enough roster to be worth the full price they inevitably charge

I wish i was more like Soulcalibur. Just most crazy. Bamco just sitting on that Soulcalibur Engine. Not doing anything with it. Besides Sparking Zero the only other noteworthy arena fighters that you should definitely try is Virtual On, The Gundam Versus series and Kill la Kill IF.

As a person that likes fighting games,As long as every character doesn’t play the same & you actually have to press different buttons to do cool combos thats a win in my book (I liked Kill la kill if & Ones justice)

You can still play jumpforce online. It’s the ranked match that is shut down. Friendly and quick matches still work and people are still playing lol

I personally have a really special connection to the Bleach series as a whole because it was a show I watched during a very dark period of my life and knowing that the first console game we are getting for it after 13 years is going to possibly be yet another Arena fighter disappoints. The reason being the history of Arena fighters are filled with lazy cash grabs that barely put any effort into making themselves appealing to people who really care about the source material and are used to really prey on your money. It happened to me with Jump Force and a lot of other series who instead of getting fleshed out genuine video games instead got the same rehashed arena fighter for the billionth time. It never feels like there is love put into an arena fighter and it instead just feels like a “here man damn!!” Type of deal. So as both a fan of the bleach series and an avid fighting game player I am really not too excited for how this game is going to pan out however I will still pay attention because I am a fan of bleach

Arena fighters are the "perfect" format for shonen battle manga series, the problem is the vast majority of them are horrible. But if they take good care of the game and the series like DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3 then we have an amazing game that can last for a long time. I hope BLEACH has that type of treatment with tons of combat mechanics and a realistic portrayal of what a BLEACH fight is.

That’s crazy because it’s not made for the fgc it’s made for the fans of course I’d love a 2d fg tho

Didn't think it can get worse than that jjk game but welp

I hope they'll include multiple versions of characters with more different movesets like the storm games

Imma be real I hate fighting games cuz it’s just constant skill gaps online those no life individual are enjoying cuz they can play this for more than 80 hours while those who have things to do and like playing more than one game is struggling cuz all it is hard work, don’t get me wrong sometimes fighting games are hype and fun to watch but it’s less enjoyable from a casual point of view

My issue is how quickly they fall off. Outside of Naruto’s franchise of arena fighters and the DBBT games, other ones (to my knowledge) are often of lesser quality in terms of its systems and mechanical depth that end with the players leaving or the game being shut down. I really do want to get into arena fighters, but I’m worried that my money will be wasted on a product that either isn’t finished, or so boring that I’d drop it, and only hear of it again when the servers go down.

Why does everything need to be hyper competitive lol I’m so hype just to play through bleach and I’ll be even more hype if the gameplay is solid and fun.

“These aren’t fighting games!” Injustice exists.

I find that a component of the hate arena fighters get is that they tend to not be as hyperbalanced as most other fighting games especially now, but this hyperemphasis on balance pretty frequently removes a lot of really fun maneuvers preempts the idea of intentionally overpowered boss characters or underpowered joke characters altogether, and never actually stops the issue of the meta stagnating as players just find the most overpowered characters and strategies and repeat ad naseum eschewing balance in favour of say adaptational loyalty or just fun factor is essentially a lateral move as far as how repetitive and stale metas go. Plus matchmaking filters are a thing and have been for awhile even alternate versions of characters where one is the competitive balanced version and the other is a boss variant have also existed for ages so there is a way to have one's cake and eat it too but it just never gets implemented anymore, maybe due to development costs but still it bites.

Sparking Zero will hopefully change the anime game industry

Most people hated burst limit.

Im glad someone's putting respect on the ninja storm games cause they're actually insanely deep. The depth comes from understanding the lore of the characters. Might guy, for example, gains a "secret" air dash cancel mechanic in 8 gates that gives him looney toons level mobility and infinite combo potential, he also gets tag fighter air combos/jump cancels.

if bleach turns out like burst limit I will lose my mind I loved that game on the xbox 360 playing super sayian 2 gohan the beam clashes and everything it was perfect damn near

The bleach power system is very intricate. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses. Also, some of the powers can intermingle. All they have to do is understand the power system with super vision of course and you will have a very fun battle system

Arena fighters are one of my favorite genres so I'm pretty hype

I'll wait and see what they do and when it's out I'll make my decision. But from the trailer it does look like it might be an arena fighter. However it could still be a good arena fighter.

heat the soul and blade of fate were so good wish they would just expand on those or even make direct sequels

Pleasant surprise seeing one of my HTS7 clips in here, great video and thanks for the credit! 🔥

What got me into bleach fighting game was the one they made for DS.

I think a 3d Bleach game like Soul Caliber would be hype. We will never get that sadly.

We should be glad that we getting a new bleach game after all these years since Soul Resurrection. If ppl complaining about arena fighters (casuals) then they need to move to mobile games fr. Also shout out to burst limit one of the rares❤

Honestly. I want Sparking and This Game to save Arena Fighters. Because you're right. The complexities of Arena is not the complex of the combos but from the overall mechanics of the game

If you're into Jojos you can play All Star Battle R, I'm sure it's a better option than Jump Force

Not from a FGC stand point but as a casual fan of the franchise. Seeing a new bleach game is a complete shock and we need to support this to show even better devolopers that bleach is a franchise worth building around.

I love the storm games I wish it was at EVO and CEO and Combo Breaker but maybe dragon ball zero and this bleach game will bring fourth a competitive scene at these major tournaments spots

Man i loved burst limit...

Its sad how ppl just complain complain complain. Just be glad we are getting a new game at all.

I think the main reason why they aren’t happy is because of the already lackluster reputation arena fighters have so it’s just easy to jump on this game and already get mad at it however while I think it isn’t a GOOD mindset I see why they say they because the only well made arena fighters are either the most popular ones or the most dead(online wise) ones

It's understandable that it's an anime fighter but the standard that non DBZ/Naruto anime fighters have established make it hard to not expect this game to crap the bed is something the game itself needs to overcome. Needs to show up with all the features, depth and polish that a diverse community could enjoy and delve into. Meaty single player content, Roll Back Netcode, Functioning Lobbies on launch, Spectator Mode for tournaments, Local Multiplayer, and a combat system with depth, versatility, & balance that invites players of all skill levels to get invested. Also, confirmation regarding getting additional seasons and content helps so we don't have another DNF Duel. Hoping the game actually does well but I have excessive trust issues.

Dude! Burst Limit is arguably the most fun I had in a Dragonball game outside of DBFZ. And Burst Limit is one of these games that hardly anyone seems to know. And its such a goodie. If only more anime games played like that.

I agree with with you in the critique of arena fighters. Overall nowadays they haven't been for me for a while now. Jump force was a tragedy for me because I loved seeing Hokuto no Ken and Ryo Saeba in a fighting game but the game was gawful. I await your take on Sparking Zero before I potentially buy it The thing that often bothers me about these arena fighters are that due to being conditioned to them generally being bad or mediocre at best I am left wondering if it would have been better as an traditional 2d or 3d fighting game. A My Hero Academia game with Dragon Ball Fighterz graphics and gameplay would be AWESOME. A 3d Tekken inspired Kengan Ashura game could be great as well. How about a Jump vs game that played like either MvC2 or CvS2? That would blow people's minds.

I am sick and tired of the fgc not considering arena fighters as fighting games. Im happy more people are pushing back against this. I have no idea how you can look at arena fighters like Storm 4, Kill La Kill If, Sparking Zero/Budokai Tenkaichi, and ESPECIALLY Gundam EXVS, and say they aren't fighting games. Just because something isn't a "traditional" like Street Fighter or Tekken, doesn't mean its not a fighting game. Hell, why tf do you think they're referred to as Arena _Fighters?_

Anime fighters are never meant to be FGC ready games, why can you people not comprehend this lol. One of the few exceptions is Fighterz but that is made with FGC in mind. If you want a FGC Bleach game, get up and develop one yourself, you guys.

Well if they made a 2d fighter with dragonball characters they can definitely make a 2d fighter with bleach characters who have an insane depth in their movesets. It would be a waste to drop all that in the limiting environment of an arena fighting game but i wont complain too much since we are getting a bleach game.

Arena fighters can be fun, but due to the lopsided ratio they have, it deters me. I can only think of 2 arena fighters that i genuinely enjoyed and thats Tenkaichi and Dissidia/012. It is sadly one of those g that is really good or really bad.

I think the reason most of us are disappointed about this is because it seems every single anime game is made a default arena fighter, which is even worse considering 90% of them are published by Bandai Namco Personally I like the Musou approach of Bleach Soul Resurrection for the PS3 and even the One Piece Pirate Warriors series, even games like Kakarot that while not a masterpiece at least tried to do something different

I hope it ends up well I love Bleach and fighting games

I think it's 100% valid for people to not be optimistic about this game out of the get-go. I myself am not. After all, anime arena fighters do not have a good track record besides Naruto and Dragon Ball, so it'd be wise to maintain low expectations to avoid being disappointed. Having said that, although i love the Budokai Tenkaichi series, I'd still rather have a more traditional fighting game for Bleach, since I'm part of the FGC, I really hope that this game surprises me. Bleach is my favorite of the Big 3 anime by FAR, so I'd love if we could have a good Bleach game after so long. So far, the game is looking kinda cool, but I'll still maintain low expectations since, at the end of the day, it is an arena fighter.

Anime licensed games have been casual afternoon entertainment in Japan ever since Shonen Jump titles came out on the Famicom. People need to keep the expectations low, because wanting the PS2 fma titles to play like DMC or have a Bleach fighter as fluent as Soul Calibur is quite a high bar to reach. The only times when they had trials to give you an incentive; Elemental Gelade, and Bleach: Heat the Soul. Bleach GC probably does have combos if you tinker with it, but that was a Japan only title that remained in obscurity in front of the popularity Clash of Ninja received due to the first two getting localized. To this day, it doesn't have any combo videos. For the show itself, I love it and it's cool, but I am still watching through it. I didn't catch up yet.

We're going to be waiting 2 years to not even get 50 characters that we want from the anime/manga

Fuck all of this. They should have made a Bleach Blade Battlers 3rd. Now THAT was some casual fun designed FOR fans of the series, NOT the arena fighter scene or any scene within FGC for that matter. EDIT: Bleach Blade Battlers was an overhead-platform fighter (similar to Power Stone) series featured on PS2, with very limited release outside of Japan. The selection of characters (and their abilities) available at the time were the ones seen up to the Arrancar Invasion arc, so you had Karakura folk (Ichigo, Uryu, Orihime, Chad), including some Gotei 13 (some didn't have their Bankai yet), and few Espada. There was a meter system that resembled 2D fighters with allowed for "supers" and EX moves.

Let's just hope it's a good polished game that pleases fans of the series, it's a story fighter. Let's hope it gets support and does well, I haven't played Bleach since Soul Ressureccion🤞

I'll like it if its fast and fluid. Everytime I've played something like Storm 4 I feel so slow and clunky

Thanks for news As they say everything that shimmers ain't gold. It was 50/50 for the new bleach game to be a arena fighter or a legit fighting game. I do want to see more of the game to cast judgment on it. I want to know game mechanics, final roster count, costumes/customization, great single player content, and a solid practice mode

Liking or not, those games have mechanics, sure some don't like the jjk game, also this is the first bleach game in years if you don't like arena fighter f*ck off and move to the mobile games Arena fighters sell well liking or not

As a die hard bleach fan they really dropped the fucking ball man. Even in 2018 when DBFZ dropped i thought man a Bleach or Naruto VS game made by arcsys would look amazing and would be good for casuals and the FGC. To this day DBFZ is the best looking Dragon Ball game its not even close imo and the sick supers/finishers plus a world tour saga really showed they cared about the game. All the arena games are dead with no support and are terrible imagine having the rights to all those legendary anime characters and fucking up making jumpforce😒 it could have been the best anime game ever if it played like MVC2 smh.

Hey Mike, whats the name of the music in the background this video

Bleach is definitely one of my favourite Animes of all time, so I already have high hopes for the game. I always end up getting into the Arena fighters that no one plays with good reason I guess lmao But I hope that won't be the case with this game

I honestly don’t give a rats what the FGC thinks. They also didn’t like SBU and MK11 and both outsold almost if not all major fighting games.

The stigma around anime arena fighters is frankly well deserved. They're usually low effort cash grabs. I'd like for that to change, but given their track record, I wouldn't hold my breath. After Kill la Kill: If, I'm over the genre as a whole. Unless it's for something like Sparking Zero that actually looks really good.

with how bleach works it can be put into a game that is almost identical to budokai tenkaichi style game. Bleach has a lot of similarity's to how Dragon Ball Fights work. I like the heat of soul games but Bleach really needs a 3D Fighting arena similar to budokai tenkaichi

Kill A Kill is a really deep fun arena fighter. It sucks arena fighters have been stigmatized.