Imagine your average crazy man on the internet. Imagine if the government tried to take them down. Because it turns out their insane rant was correct. That's this movie. And it stars Mel Gibson. Twitter: / hubpointless
Why would they take it down? You speak of conspiracy theories as if anyone who believes any of them is crazy. This exactly the kind of content they love 😂. Now if you did a video on all the conspiracy theories that turned out to be 100% true.... Then they'd censor you.
Having the government chase a conspiracy theorist for getting a conspiracy right, but having the conspiracy theorist not know which conspiracy he got right is such a genius setup for a story that no matter what turn the story takes, it will not be a satisfying answer. I would’ve kept the exact conspiracy Mel Gibson got right as a secret the entire movie and have him being an MK ultra victim be something totally separate from that.
I genuinely wonder if there’s been one relationship that started on that premise. A modern day lady and the tramp between a federal agent and a half psychotic dollar general employee.
Someone should actually try a story like that. A fed is posing as this mentally ill loners gf and instigating him into doing a Mass shooting, but the loner isn't insane enough to actually kill people and the fed is starting to fall in love with him. Cue hijinks and dark jokes.
I legit had a bus driver who would rant to me nonstop about conspiracy theories. This went on for weeks until he mysteriously disappeared. Part of me wants to believe The Man got him but it's far more likely he was arrested again for not paying his child support (which was part of his many conspiracies)
@@my9thaccount140you joke but this comment section is covered with idiots trying to imply that getting banned from RU-vid for being antisemitic or arrested for breaking the law is proof of (dumb pet conspiracy that makes them feel smart)
Fun story: my uncle is friends with the family who rented out their apartment in New York for this film. Never thought about it again until this video.
Did you watched "Everything Everywhere All at Once"? Considering it was box office "failure" probably not but this movie is "insane movie" and in the same time actually good.
@@mrscruffles801 Exactly, so many FBI honeypots and then pushing others to commit crimes. Like the recent Whitmer kidnapping plot, total entrapment and they deny all involvement
Honestly though, I have to give this movie points for the fact that the Secret-Super-Agent lost with faulty programming and no memory, isn't portrayed as some cold, cool-headed Badass like Jason Bourne... but is instead a nervous wreck, fighting with all kinds of mental illnesses and character ticks, unable to form meaningful connections, while still following some drilled in routines that would seem like an absolute schizophrenic nightmare to an outside observer
Which is probably what somebody who underwent that sort of thing would realistically be like. Something that makes everything in the movie way funnier.
I think I’m paraphrasing the movie but when he’s getting taken in by the bad guys and he says something like “wait that means I was right! Wait, which one was I right about?” Which is just brilliant
This is an example of a movie with a great premise but poor execution. Some decent acting and a better script, this movie actually could’ve been pretty great
I agree, having him *actually* be the guy who killed her dad under brainwashing - with the later obsession with her being a result of unconscious guilt - is much better than "he was sent to do it but The Power Of Love At First Sight broke his programming".
@@agonzalez7095 you can disagree with the content, historical accuracy, etc of those films. But from a filmmaking standpoint they're very well-made films.
You should really talk about a Christmas movie called Fatman where Mel Gibson plays Santa and a Santa obsessed hitman is hired by an spoiler Elementary school student to take him out, also the US military wants to turn Santa’s Workshop into a weapons manufacturing plant because of how effective the elf’s are with making toys…for some plot reason
This just made me think of a prequel fallout game where you play an on-the-run conspiracy theorist running from the Enclave after finding out about FEV or the Vault Experiments or the Oil Rig etc. It'd be pretty cool.
This reminded me of that one movie where Bruce Willis has to protect an autistic child from the government because the kid accidentally decoded a super secret code that the government uses for secret stuff and that for some reason they published as a puzzle in a kids magazine as a joke because they thought no one would ever crack it and now they want to kill the child before someone finds out he knows how to decode this super secret code.
Why would they want to kill the kid and not put him in a safehouse and train him to become a codebreaker FOR THEM? I'm sure there's some story somewhere where a savant is frequently given "puzzles" that are really top secret codes. Maybe I'm thinking of Leonard of Quirm in Discworld.
@@johnnye87 i don't know, i saw this movie when i was around twelve, all i remember is the savant autistic child being chased by the FBI because he broke a code and Bruce Willis had to protect him.
Alice 'falling' for him is easily explained: she felt like shit for believing the villain, and thinking he was about to die, didn't want to just be like "You don't love me, you're a stalker you jackass." So she just gave him what he wanted to hear.
The way you described the love dynamic in this film made it sound eerily.. I don’t know what word to use other than abusive. Like, someone constantly doing creepy shit over and over again, enough to make anyone want to leave, but still doing the occasional good thing which delays that inevitability.
yeah. it reminds me of the video from Pop Culture Detective "stalking for love" or "predatory romance in Harrison ford movies" that is a criticism on this exact topic. Those characters treat woman bad but it's framed as a good even "sexy". there are others videos from the same channel talking more on weird tropes that Hollywood treat as "romantic" but actually is abusive or straight up crime. highly recommend watch (sorry if bad english)
Man, the first half of this movie is *so good*. All the setup stuff was fantastic, Gibson brilliantly balances charismatic and creepily unhinged, Stewart is perfect, Roberts elevates what could have been a super generic character, and Richard Donner put it all together as professionally as ever. And then the second half very slowly goes off the rails, as it fails to pay anything off effectively. It's not really until the last 15 minutes or so that it falls apart (and even then, Donner delivers some good thriller moments), but man, it's just such a shame that they didn't have the guts to stick with the way more interesting movie that they're setting up.
@@kinsmart7294 That would be the best! But I think they could even have gotten away with revealing it (after all, a former MKUltra boss cleaning up loose ends is honestly a cool answer) if they hadn't had Mel be right about *every* wacko theory and had found a way to keep a degree of mystery and power there even with the answers* hadn't forced that yikes romance and just generally found a stronger last 20 minutes. * After all, we know, for example, broadly speaking what Parallax was up to in The Parallax View, but never why or what their ultimate goals are or if they're really powerful and connected or just inconspicuous. But we still get the gist of what they're doing.
You want a hollywood movie to tell you that hollywood, NASA, tehinterwebz/facebook/onlypornfans etc = run 100% by the deep state? Ewen Cameron mk ultra stuff and NBC weapons' research is probably the best we'll ever get from mainstream media. 🙊🙉
So this movie is essentially what happens when a Conspiracy Theorist realizes that they got in to deep, shed their tinfoil hat, and dons a Kevlar Vest.
Conspiracy Theory had a great premise to be a fun movie. Sadly, the final product is lacking all around. Mel is doing his shtick but his character feels underdeveloped, and Julia Roberts' character more so. The whole conspiracy plot is lame as hell and Richard Donner's direction is barely noticeable. Agree that Carter Burwell's score is the best tho.
Not only that but the whole relationship dynamic between Julia roberts and Mel Gibson is so problematic that it weighs down the viewing experience for most people
"This man is a 4chan poster that wound up as the main character of a political thriller." This simple sentence just creates the most ridiculous plot for a Jason Bourne-esque film directed by Paul Greengrass and starring Matt Damon as the 4Chan poster.
I'd like to thank pointless hub for introducing me to that theme. Now I can have an appropriate sound track as I rant about how alternate History channels are a Psy op to prepare us for time travel shananegens.
It’d be really funny if in the future time travel was invented entirely for the purpose of banishing people back in time. Like in the future you post some crime stats, feds immediately kidnap you and instead of reconditioning you, they send you back to the 1800s with enough resources to start a cotton plantation and tell you to go nuts.
I specifically remember the scene where Patrick Stewart kidnaps and tortures Mel Gibson. I know it was probably supposed to be suspenseful but it was so batshit insane I was laughing my ass off the whole time.
From the goofy music heard in the film clips and the absurd premise and plot elements, I thought this movie was supposed to be a dark comedy or conspiracy thriller parody. According to Letterboxed, however, Conspiracy Theory (1997) is a thriller action mystery and drama.
My favorite part of all your videos on this channel is the editing. Its so damn chaotic. "Hold on to those eggs dear" 2 seconds later. "Auuuu!" As the old couple in 2012 plow into a giant chunk of rock 🤣
The idea of NASA having all of this power and being the villian might be the funniest unexplored plot I have ever heard of. It sounds like it was made by someone who doesnt understand science so obviously they fear it
That’s the thing with NASA conspiracies that make them sort of stupid. NASA is full of autists who find stuff like finding moon rocks and crashing drones into asteroids fascinating. You know who doesn’t? The American government. There’s nothing tangible to be gained just scientific data. You think if NASA was that powerful they’d go and grovel for more funding from the government? Of course not
What's scarier than these movies is real life though. Because in real life we see people who "understand science", like you, do horrible, immoral stuff at the behest of politicians, be it building the atomic bomb and watch a thousand powdered, or finding newer ways to torture Jews in concentration chambers, or maybe even dismember Chinese people at Japanese facilities to see how long they live. But obviously that dude in the gas chamber doesn't understand science, right?
I loved the first twenty minutes of the movie, when I thought this was gonna be a dark comedy. Imagine my chagrin when I realized the movie was expecting the viewer to take it seriously.
I took it as a comedy, it's just I was about half way through it before I realized it wasn't being funny on purpose. Didn't hinder my enjoyment of it though.
@@troodon1096 It did mine. Seeing Mel groan and whimper like he had a stomach cramp, while exposition-dumping mushy melodrama stops being funny after ten seconds, and it feels like that was half the movie.
I freakin’ love this channel! You analyze movies and topics that no one else ever really talks about and are extremely funny whilst doing it. You are seen and appreciated my friend! Keep it up!
I saw this movie when I was a kid, when it was still fairly new and I always remembered it as being really intense, cool and a bit scary at times (I was like 10 at the time). I recently gave it a second watch, I was a bit underwhelmed but it's still really entertaining, but a lot sillier than I remember. Like that scene with the black helicopters; How can nobody else see them!? ''Silent mode'' or not, they are hovering about 20 meters over the streets of New York.
"New Yorkers! You fucking people think you are so great by playing it cool and jaded all the time! There is a silent running helicopter deploying commandos and I want you all to react to it!"
It was during this movie I realized Mel Gibson is a serious masochist... Rewatch Braveheart/ Apocolyto/ Passion of the Christ... Even during the Lethal Weapon movies... He's insane and I love him
I love the fact that the world depicted in this film is one where these shadowy groups are smart enough to pull off these incredible feats like mine control, stealthy black helicopters, and earthquake guns, but cook up these ridiculously impractical plans. Like, how is an earthquake the weapon of choice for a political assassination? This is like someone took those Mitchell and Webb sketches and played the concepts perfectly straight.
I remember watching this movie when I was a kid cause the part in the wheelchair and the cartoons and Mel screaming all the time was very funny to me. For some reason I confused it with "Ramson", another crazy old Mel Gibson movie. And that soundtrack, it is so rare and it doesnt blened in the scenes either, but it's very characteristic
Typical Hollywood MO: "Hey, here's an absolutely outrageous idea for a comedy, with the perfect cast to boot. Let's make it a dead serious action thriller instead."
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5:36 Am I the only one who wishes that we got to see that Deadliest Warrior clip again in this moment? You know the one I’m talking about. It would’ve fit so well!
I agree with your theory that the entire movie is in his head. We’re just shown the world he always thinks he’s living in. One where he thinks the deep state will come full force after some random nobody who’s never taken seriously, where women despite all his many flaws are attracted to him, and most importantly, a world where he’s somebody important. He’s not just some lunatic, he’s a perfectly normal guy who was just MADE to seem crazy by the deep state making him a professional killer. I think the movie if it explored that route had a lot of potential
"Using an earthquake to kill the president" I'm a geologist; earthquakes are very difficult to impossible to detect beforehand. They should have gone with an volcanic eruption instead
I feel like there's an entire genre of Conspiracy movies that mostly exist on dropping a plot bomb that goes "Something Something We execute people on our Blood Diamond pile because (Insert something about about primal Instinct)Something Something" And then mostly go on hoping that plot bomb will coast you through the movie.
I want this movie to be remade, but the Riddler from "The Batman" playing Mel Gibson's role, & Julia Robert's character just pretends to believe/love him until she gets the cops to take him away at the end.
I discovered your channel with your Sharknado episode. Never I thought watching Alternate History Hub's videos on Red Alert would make me want more videos on dumb action films.
The problem with “Conspiracy Theories” is that some of them turn out to be true. And the worst part is that the conspiracy theory about the CIA creating the term to discredit Conspiracy theorists is also true.
