My Maternal Great Grand Father was raised in the Appalachian Mountains during the late 1880s. His family was very poor. He showed me how to light a fire in similar way. He used cotton fibers to show me but stated that there where many fibers that would work. The natural ones just had to have a low oil content. He said that fibers with a higher oil content had a higher flash point. That seemed backwards to me but he was the teacher. He also stated that the courser the rust flakes you could find the easier it was to get the fibers to light. Thank you for bringing back a memory of him to me.
@JD Farmer , I myself live in the Appalachian mountains in S.E ky. These natural fibers with high or low oil content were they all different cotton varieties or from other plants and trees . I ask this because the more you know , the more you can learn , the better , in this case your the teacher and I'm he student.
@@geraldhoskins2933 He mainly used cotton fibers from old cloths. He would scrap across cotton jeans and make a fine lint. Then he would strip the cloth into treads. He would twist the lint and threads with as coarse of rust he could find. He use a piece of cloth that was made from flax and it was much harder to light. This was where he told me that the reason was the oil content. Now remember this was when I was 9 or 10 and I am now 72. LOL ( A lighter is much easier now. LOL)
@@silverclouds3725 There are a few quality youtube channels, but not many. That and here at Lars' would rank among the few. And anything from Mors (RIP) and the whole Karamat cadre. Enjoy!
Lars, I think I know how it works, as I play with some pyro; Rust is oxidised iron or Fe2O3, you can see it has oxygen to spare! This will help the jute catch, and provide oxygen for the burn. This is also seen in Thermite (ali dust and rust) We use KNO3 as an oxidiser too, for example in smoke b*mbs And think about metal cutting torches, they have an oxygen line so the burn can be as hot as possible, as air is only 20% Much love as always!
But the usual temperature for iron to give up its oxygen is a very substantial temperature. Quite a bit higher than the melting point of iron. Basically rust isn't really an oxidizer until you reach those temperatures where the oxygen is open to disassociating with the iron. That's why lighting thermite usually involves a magnesium fire. Seems it has more to do with friction than oxidation.
I have used this method with jute from twine, that I took apart and tore up into fine fibres. But instead of rust, I used ashes from a fire. Rolled it up tight just like the demo. I used a much smaller amount though. It started to smoulder after only a few seconds. It was easy to start a fire with it. Blow on it after it starts to smoulder, then put it into your tinder bundle.
Looks like flax. You can get cotton wool at any upholstery shop or get cotton balls at the drug store. The flax would be good because of the line seed oil. You can always use the lint from your dryer.
On other vids, I see a lot of people dismiss the fire roll (Rutiger Roll), saying 'who's gonna have cotton wool and ash with them' etc, but they miss the whole point of it. Cotton Wool and ash is to learn and practise the technique so that you can then apply the method to other materials such as you have done here and then apply to natural materials if you were stranded without other means to make fire. Anyone who has successfully tried this method knows that it is certainly less taxing on the body than rubbing sticks together or even the bow drill, which is kind of important in a survival situation. RU-vidr Boggy Creek Beast has popularised this method for others to copy with numerous videos with the method, using various materials.
Hi Lars, greets from CE! Interesting that you are using rust! I saw those firerolls first on YT-channel of David West. He uses mostly particles of charcoal from the ashes of a wood fire!
Hemp fibre has a high content of a certain mineral which makes them quite fire resistent, burlap or Jute on the other side is quite easy to light up. Maybe explains why it took a few more rolls to ... My Grandfather told me a version of this but with some cloth, a bandage + some ash from a cigar and i believe some charcoal dust or charcloth was in there. Thanks for the demonstration, it's nice to see that the old ways still working in this day and age ;)
I have worked with hemp for over 10 years and it is not fire resistant. Hemp is cannabis, cannabis is famous for burning. To make it fire resistant we blend it with wool, 25% or more wool will stop natural fibres burning, wool does not burn.
Which mineral is in hemp that makes it fire resistant? When comparing the chemical composition between the two plants the only difference is in ratios of celluose, hemicelluose and lignin by a slight percentage. Hemp also contains ~%3 pectin but this compound is flammable.
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Yes, Lars, you surprised me!I heard about it a long time ago, 30 years ago, but I had no idea how exactly it was done. Now you can try to collect the fibrous lichen growing on the branches of the spruce, dry it and try to get a fire too.
For those curious or who might need to know, you can get a similar fibre from the inner layer of certain tree bark, cedars in particular. I've only done it with Japanese cedar, but American cedars seem to have a similar property. Take dry wood, strip off the bark and you can just peel the fibres away by hand. Take a bunch, rub them together in your hands, then gently rip and tease it apart and you end up with a fluffy wodge of fibre that makes a decent tinder material, even if you just plan to light it with a normal lighter.
Great idea ! Thanks for sharing. I’ve seen this method but used crushed coals and lil ashes on cotton wool or stretched cotton ball and start rolling just like you did here and have to roll it fast between your hand and a hard surface and she lites up. This method you shared is very similar just different ingredients. Thanks Lars for sharing the knowledge and videos. Till next time bless you and your family.
I know a woman was went to the Gulag at 8, she escaped at 18. She said they made friends with people with bad eyesight who wore glasses. Even the guards would be nice to them since they could get one started in no time in the sun.
I was once alone in a manufacturing facility with no way of lighting a cigarette. Some semi rusty wire wool from the workshop stuffed with tissue paper and placed in the canteen microwave for a few seconds and I had a light for a much anticipated smoke 🚬
I find the easiest way to light a fire 🔥 is to use matches or a cheap gas lighter. If it’s very cold I just leave the gas lighter in my pocket for a few minutes to warm it up ! 🏴
You bring up a very good point and using old school materials because most modern materials cannot be manufactured by the population at large only through corporations and government
Jute is in fact a different plant than hemp. It's cultivated mainly in India. Jute fibers are used for various packaging and agricultural products, but the most widely known is burlap. The tensile strength of hemp is slightly stronger than jute, but due to lesser versatility Jute is usually cheaper than hemp. It's difficult to say whether the mass of fibers you have is Jute or Hemp.
At the end of the day it doesn't really make much of a difference for this purpose. Both plants have the same composition: cellulose, hemicellulose and lignin. The ratios are slightly different but not by much. They both have high surface area and would perform indiscernibly in use as a fire starter when adequately dried out.
Is your method using cotton roll and ash? I am familiar with that. Jutte and rust! Never heard of it. Cool video! Good luck with the tactical equipment, that jacket you are wearing looks awesome.
Most "DRY" natural fibers will work . In an emergency cotton cloth (not synthetics) broken down and frayed will work with rust or wood ashes . Thanks for sharing .
I've seen this done using regular charcoal dust instead of rust. Unsure of the chemical reaction that causes it to work, but it was also done using regular plant fiber that you would use for a typical "bird's nest".
Looks like hemp fibre.We use to use it in England for pipe joints. .Thread your pipe. Apply some linseed oil to the pipe thread.Then wrap 2 strands of hemp fibre around the thread. ,Screw the fitting onto the thread tighten with a pipe wrench. That join will last 100 years plus.
Rust can be used, but the best way to get this kind of fire going is to use wood ash instead of rust. try it with wood ash and you might have a better time of it. and you can use cotton balls in place of Jute if you have it, plus you can make a bunch of those rolls ahead of time and keep them with you in a tin for throat lozenges if you have them. they make a good fire starter! it also helps if you put more pressure on the roll as you run it back and forth between the planks of wood. so put more pressure on them and you might have better results as well.
That's great! Aluminum foil and iron rust folded in layers and pounded thin can react if beaten with hammer (chemical reaction) and also makes flash paper.
Have you seen the David west channel on RU-vid…he is the fire king of the world….he uses this method with cotton, but the same technique…..love your stuff too! Thanks it’s amazing!
Strange considering all the pine tar and resin laying around out there. I mean it's a good thing to know if you don't have available local fuel/tinder. But lots of people don't know about it or how to harvest them.
Hi Lars !👋 :David West channel is experiencing this method of making fire 🔥 with several different types of an approach to successfully attempt a good result 👏 in these ways of using frictional devices, basically with hash and cotton 😀... great idea 🧙♂️🇨🇦
I've seen this method used a few time's, friction fire is numerous and reasonably hard to get right first time round, always remember Lars that our breath contains moisture so breathing on an ember could take a while, waving the hand over an ember works well and no moisture.
Off camera, I tried "waving" it, like a when I do bow drill fires. It did not work. I thought it was easy, because I got it going the first time I tried with the jute and rust.
@@SurvivalRussia Ahh in that case then Lars, fair play, I've not actually tried that method of friction fire, I only know the theory of it, my favourite is the plough method. All the best to you and your family mate during these trying time's we are all in. Paul.
Hei Lars, if you are interested to know more about fire rolls and material you can use for it, watch "David West" he is THE expert in this field. I watch his channel now for years and he is experimenting with different materials and technics. When it starts to smoke you have open it like you did in your last attempt that it gets more oxygen this is a key part. And best of luck for your small business.
Да,Ларс,ты удивил!Я слышал об этом давно,ещё лет 30 назад,но не представлял себе как конкретно это делается.Теперь можно попробовать собрать волокнистый лишайник,растущий на ветвях ели,просушить его и попробовать тоже добыть огонь.
