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The FIRST DOPED Cyclist with EPO || A Story of CRAZY OVERDOSE 

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Steven Rooks as he is known to his fans the teammate of Gert Jan Theunisse in PDM is one of the most controversial cyclists in history. He used epic doping methods to win 1983 Liege Bastogne Liege against Giuseppe Saronni and been the crush of the people with a legendary performance in the 1988 Tour de France against Pedro Delgado and Fabio Parra. This is the story of the super climber Steven Rooks last days. Want to know what happened? We'll know more cycling tops, from road cycling news, cycling stories, British cycling, road cycling and More road cycling transfer news today on Cycling in 1 Minute. #Cycling, #Sports, #Doping

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@cyclingstories
@cyclingstories Год назад
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@fromcarlawithlove
@fromcarlawithlove Год назад
At 2.26 you show not Theunisse but Lubberding, the first rider with long hair. Someone that never doped . Berthius Fok never was a doc he was a soigneur .
@dangurtler7177
@dangurtler7177 Год назад
“Never doped” seems doubtful.
@Diksjim
@Diksjim 15 дней назад
i can throw out a guinne accent pretty well not bad for a kerryman hi
@AvB.83
@AvB.83 Год назад
"He was so doped, he tested positive in the 80s." 😅
@marcopaganotto9125
@marcopaganotto9125 Год назад
He still tests positive to this day 🤪
@patthewoodboy
@patthewoodboy Год назад
@@marcopaganotto9125 funny
@bradford_shaun_murray
@bradford_shaun_murray 10 месяцев назад
4:16 woah
@Akkodha-
@Akkodha- 9 месяцев назад
@@bradford_shaun_murrayhe could have ran and still go just as fast
@joshuasasfire2759
@joshuasasfire2759 Месяц назад
😂
@tobiasmessias1
@tobiasmessias1 Год назад
more drugs than a Cypress Hill concert. Best line ever
@Raydar1234
@Raydar1234 Месяц назад
Instant classic 😂😂😂!
@DrtyALGreen
@DrtyALGreen Год назад
Dude Tour de Pharmacy is so funny. Hilarious you threw the clip in.😂
@djevelkjokken204
@djevelkjokken204 11 месяцев назад
Teammate of Andy Bishop here. He was the only non-doped on PDM for the Tour. Raced against all these guys in the early nineties and holy cow they were unreal. Came back from racing pre-Worlds races in Italy and I was flying. Years later an ex-Soviet doctor told me that was "passive doping", where you're not on anything but everyone else is. You get crushed, but once recovered and in a non-doped competition, you are the crusher.
@fernandovega5722
@fernandovega5722 10 месяцев назад
I know him personally from Tucson, AZ and I know you are right. He was always straightforward and clean. Thanks for letting us all know the story.
@barretmc
@barretmc Месяц назад
lol passive doping i thats funny
@lostalone9320
@lostalone9320 Месяц назад
Kinda true though... If you're training to compete with doped guys, then you'll be pushing so much harder and when the dopers are gone...
@davidkennedy4845
@davidkennedy4845 Месяц назад
Like training on a heavy bike and racing on a light bike.
@brianmessemer2973
@brianmessemer2973 Год назад
“More drugs in the PDM training camp than at a Cypress Hill concert” “Our trotting protagonist worked like a Roman charioteer’s horse for the pigeon pie-eating doped man” “That scene was absolutely grotesque” “Today’s kids would say…cringe” “The climbers almost 2 meters tall”
@ChrisBKurimu
@ChrisBKurimu Год назад
Well done story. Really great watching and seeing all the riders I loved in my teens.
@vancespearman8777
@vancespearman8777 Год назад
Love the stories. Please keep them coming
@DiegoDneo
@DiegoDneo Год назад
"more drugs then in a Cypress Hill Concert..." GOLD!
@einundsiebenziger5488
@einundsiebenziger5488 Год назад
... more drugs than* ...
@DiegoDneo
@DiegoDneo Год назад
@@einundsiebenziger5488 thanks
@marcusaurelius49
@marcusaurelius49 10 месяцев назад
This guy doped EPO so much, even his jersey was growing red blood cells in the thumbnail.
@gedrooney9305
@gedrooney9305 Год назад
Well it’s the last day of this years Tour De France and here I am, trawling. Good video, subscribed ;)
@TheLemon333
@TheLemon333 Год назад
These stories remind me of the tabloid papers in the check-out line at the grocery store. I don't want to look, but I can't help myself.
@pichihimunoz2891
@pichihimunoz2891 Год назад
This vid is amazing great footage from the 80s and good work in the story. You deserve millions of suscribers
@janscanulfsson9295
@janscanulfsson9295 Год назад
Great episode, great script & delivery, plus bonus for points for John Cena - did he think we couldn't see him ? I remember Rooks riding well in the Kellogg's Tour of Britain ( 87-ish) and his transformation from classics rider to crack stage racer was truly remarkable - how little we knew back then.
@MightyJabroni
@MightyJabroni Год назад
PDM ... Perfect Doping Machine
@philallan6685
@philallan6685 Год назад
Love these - the scripting and voiceover is bang on and very funny. "I'm sorry for those of you who don't believe in miracles..."
@TheRongy
@TheRongy Год назад
Zombie apocalypse!😂 You guys should write an encyclopedia on doping in cycling! Great video, thanks for posting!💪🏻🚴‍♂️
@jerrychicken967
@jerrychicken967 Год назад
Just a note, alpe d'huez is known as the Dutch mountain. Quite a few Dutch winners there. Also, I only recently found out that blood bags were against the rules only until 1986. This means previous winners would use blood bags including Hinault and, Merckx. I think Rooks won Leige which shows he could climb. Off their trolleys of course but that's cycling 😊👍
@glywnniswells9480
@glywnniswells9480 Год назад
And probably Anquetil too his lady was a nurse and went to all his races
@deathkampdrone
@deathkampdrone Год назад
How about Francesco Moser finally winning Giro d'Italia at age 33, after having been a disappointment in the Giro in the four seasons running up to his win. Notably under the guidance of his doctor Francesco Conconi. That one in hindsight makes me think of Bjarne Riis winning the tour at age 32.
@user-bm6cm4ii3m
@user-bm6cm4ii3m Год назад
Bald bjarne riis... JESTER Bjarne
@francescocarzoli4945
@francescocarzoli4945 Год назад
Conconi at time was a God in blood transfusions
@stevesidebottom2124
@stevesidebottom2124 Год назад
At age 33, when pro riders are in their prime? Sometimes better to keep your mouth closed
@rollinrat4850
@rollinrat4850 Год назад
That was the Giro with the helicopter behind Moser in the final TT right? Or was that just a myth made up by Fignon? That Giro was tailor made for Moser with few climbing stages. Even Argentin miraculously placed 3rd! The only big tour Moser ever won. Blood doping wasn't made illegal until '85. Years later Moser fessed up.
@rollinrat4850
@rollinrat4850 Год назад
@@francescocarzoli4945 His understudy was Ferrari, yes?
@afischer8327
@afischer8327 10 месяцев назад
Your story of tragedy and comedy is appreciated. The earliest admitted use of EPO, and the PDM Team's cynicism. All played out with a nice orchestral waltz. Heavy sprinters and rouleurs were dancing up the mountains, and us poor souls were looking at these fine folk, entranced.
@Stufferburg
@Stufferburg Год назад
Just found this channel. Unreal should be at a milli subs
@Thetoad738
@Thetoad738 Год назад
I felt bad for Parra. He should have won the 1988 Tour.
@englishteacherdon
@englishteacherdon Год назад
Great point! I wonder if Mottet really won in 1991, and Hampsten in 1992. It would make sense.
@sergiobarros2697
@sergiobarros2697 Год назад
At 5:04 i hear prestigious « turd »….dunno if on purpose or my lacking of english skills..-.but for sure made me laugh…thx so much….your videos are so entertaining and informative
@mrbaileybass
@mrbaileybass Год назад
Great vid 👏
@AdeboFunkyVoodoo
@AdeboFunkyVoodoo Год назад
I remember watching that Tour. It was a good one. The following off season didn't Rooks and Theunisse demolish the time for climbing Alpe d'huez but then fail on the stage in Le Tour? It was a long time ago so I may be misremembering some of the details.
@neologian1783
@neologian1783 9 месяцев назад
Great video. My only objection is that way too many people seem to think "doping" sorta "took off" with EPO in the 80's-90's. EPO was just a technological leap forward.....but the use of banned substances and other performance enhancers (whether real or imagined) have been in widespread, almost ubiquitous, in pro cycling since the 60's.....and before that is was preceded by chicanery and outright cheating.
@littleloner1159
@littleloner1159 Месяц назад
That's so interesting! I think it is because very little is known about the pre 80s area of doping (by the larger public) because no one ever talks about it and it's very difficult to find actual information about it. Tho technically is was definitely possible, body builders also started doping back then. Would only make sense cyclists did too.
@gazza0209
@gazza0209 Год назад
I have a friend who was a very competitive amateur racer in the 80's, he told me most of the top amateurs were doping in one way or another.
@lipsterman1
@lipsterman1 Год назад
That's where it got really dangerous. Doping under a doctor's care is one thing. Doping oneself is another. I heard stories of a lot of amateur European cyclists dying of aneurysms in their 30's.
@m.k.s.p.7746
@m.k.s.p.7746 Год назад
@Gary Daly: True -- many did, and that's all I'll say except that there were some very good riders that didn't dope (including the then-legal blood doping). First-hand experience. I retired at the end of the 1984 season.
@chokehanson1830
@chokehanson1830 Год назад
Raced in the late 80's to mid 90's in the UK & for a while I reached 1st cat level (albeit a pretty average one) - there were whispers of riders at our level who were kitting up. They'd be getting their arses kicked all over the winter months, be absolutely nowhere for the first few months of the season, then they'd pretty much disappear before coming back in the heads down & elbows out end of the season & clean up. It was regular gossip & banter that these riders (only a small number, not a lot) were taking something & I know the two of them have now sadly died due to health complications & I also know one guy (a regular speed & cokehead even during the season) who later took his own life. So even at amateur level it was still happening - and for what exactly? Maybe £30.00 in an envelope for winning a local crit. I had neither the talent nor the ambition to ever take it really seriously so i slid back down ghe categories & just raced for fun. The sport was fucked even then & I've no faith in it ever cleaning itself up now.
@nickvledder
@nickvledder Год назад
As Dutchman I have always been curious about the Dutch PDM-team. Thanks for aswering many questions. To this day Gert Jan Theunisse denies being doped and claims he has a special medical condition.
@gladtobeangry
@gladtobeangry Год назад
A number of years ago he was a guest in de Avondetappe. I've only been following cycling for about 15 years now, so I had no idea who Gert-Jan Theunisse was, but he looked like a survivor of a nuclear disaster, or someone on the verge of dying from a terminal disease. If that guy was clean, I'm a coat rack. One of the most visibly doped riders I've ever seen in my life.
@Planetarchitect
@Planetarchitect Год назад
@@gladtobeangry "Your cannot ride the Tour De France on mineral water!" Jacques Anquetil. Keep in mind that quote is from the late 50's early 60's which gives an indication as to how long doping has been going on in cycling.
@valter_vava74
@valter_vava74 Год назад
@@Planetarchitect Anquetil publicly admitted that he took amphetamines part of his normal racing regime. It was normal at that time, so doping in cycling is old news.
@fraidnotsfortunatefew282
@fraidnotsfortunatefew282 Год назад
@@valter_vava74 Yeah, and they used cocaine in the 1920s.
@user-ui6kv2np8i
@user-ui6kv2np8i Год назад
@@Planetarchitect Even the 1st participants tried doping themselves upon whatever they thought would work, but, ofc, it really took off after WW2 when Europe was awash with US amphetamines (which is what they handed out to their soldiers like confetti to keep them going).
@dickieblench5001
@dickieblench5001 Год назад
Love the 88 tour!
@robbienl8176
@robbienl8176 Месяц назад
My uncle beated Rooks in the amateurs in the 80's before Rooks went pro. My father spoke to him a few years ago he stlll remembered that race, Rooks is a nice guy.
@KevinKimmich44024
@KevinKimmich44024 Год назад
Vinokourov would be an interesting one to cover; some of his performances were so obviously aided that it only took a pair of eyes to see what was going on. I don't remember which Tour it was but he went from struggling at the edge of collapse in one stage to fresh as a daisy with afterburner power in the following day's TT--maybe 2007? I had no clue what was going on during the LA years, but by 2007 a lot of the story was out and lots of the people watching were just "oh come on" during that whole tour.
@nighttrain1236
@nighttrain1236 Год назад
Yeah, it was something like that. Didn't he fall off a few days earlier and suffer terrible road-rash? That mid to late 00s era was probably peak denial. Cancer-jesus Lance was too big to fail.
@KevinKimmich44024
@KevinKimmich44024 Год назад
@@nighttrain1236 yeah, exactly, I am remembering the crash now. He was really struggling, then was reborn like he had motors for legs. It was extremely suspicious... It's like they all went over the top in that edition and it was too obvious... I can't remember exactly when all the dirt started coming out. They were providing the demonstration of the advantages conferred by juicing
@holmbjerg
@holmbjerg Год назад
Well Vinokourov did test positive and was kicked out of the 2007 tour.
@colintainter4856
@colintainter4856 Год назад
@@KevinKimmich44024 but if they all were doing it, how was it so noticeable that they were doing it?
@martinhensbergen569
@martinhensbergen569 Год назад
When you turn off the light, Vinokourov gives light in the dark. So much dope he used!!
@pichihimunoz2891
@pichihimunoz2891 Год назад
Love that style of long vids, learn a lot
@TwoWheelWarrior
@TwoWheelWarrior Год назад
Way to go buddy!
@paulsummerfield6357
@paulsummerfield6357 8 месяцев назад
Delgado was on EPO too a few years before
@grachtschrap
@grachtschrap 9 месяцев назад
Interesting times in the world of professional cycling.
@spidyspidy1340
@spidyspidy1340 Год назад
Could you make a video about Stefan Schumacher and Bernhard Kohl pls
@jimbouldin9164
@jimbouldin9164 10 месяцев назад
Strange video. Some nice racing footage, but otherwise a disjointed collection of assertions and suggestions. No actual presentation of evidence.
@VeejayRampay
@VeejayRampay Месяц назад
lmao denial eh?
@blackrul3z
@blackrul3z Месяц назад
Yeah... Evidence? If you think anybody can touch the top 0.1% in any physical sport with good genetics, rice, chicken and a lot of training only, you are dumb af. There are no natural guys at the top. 0... After a lvl dedication, hard work, good trainers, etc are just not enough, and you can use roids, or you are stuck... Robert Förstemann was a famously "natural" guy... Yeah... Guess what. Its impossible to build legs like that... Naturally... Its a pretty easy thing. If you don't use roids, someone else will. And those will just crash you. And on the top lvl, they get the best sht, with the best doctors, to make sure they dont get a positive test ever.
@IslandPink
@IslandPink Год назад
This was interesting and informative watch, until 6 seconds from the end.
@eriktempelman2097
@eriktempelman2097 Год назад
Pronunciation tips: it's Rooks with the oo sounding like the o in coke. Easy to remember. And the eu in Theunisse sounds like the eu in the French word jeu.
@andrewince8824
@andrewince8824 Год назад
"More drugs than a Cyprus Hill concert". I'm howling. 😂
@leeh3023
@leeh3023 Год назад
More drugs than a Cypress Hill concert
@TweedSuit
@TweedSuit Год назад
Rooks and Gert weren't 80Kg. Miguel Induráin was.
@GSXK4
@GSXK4 10 месяцев назад
My own experience with TRT is it makes you about 25% stronger after 6 mnths to one year. At a much older age, too.
@TheCrushah
@TheCrushah Год назад
I very much doubt EPO was used pre 89. It wasn’t approved for use until 89 and was very hard to manufacture. Testosterone, cortisone and transfusions can easily mimic EPO behavior though.
@rafaelwillems3244
@rafaelwillems3244 Год назад
Basically you say this video is a con job, just like old school cycling often was. Agree.
@Alex-pr6zv
@Alex-pr6zv Год назад
EPo didnt become a gamechanger in distance running until about 1993 when another dutchman Jos Hermanns came along with Haile Guebresselassie et al.
@TesterAnimal1
@TesterAnimal1 Год назад
Not approved? Yeah I’m sure that’d stop them.
@rg807
@rg807 Год назад
Agree. As Lemond said, all of a sudden around 1991(?), guys who couldn't even hold my wheel started dropping me, and did so without being out of breath.
@jlm6448
@jlm6448 10 месяцев назад
@@rg807 yes and blooding doping was rampant during Lemond era. But somehow he could beat those guys.
@reddiver7293
@reddiver7293 11 месяцев назад
80s bicycles, 80s hair. What a trip.
@ramilv739
@ramilv739 18 дней назад
Doping is the soul of cycling. Like the scream of a v10 engine in Formula 1. Both need to be brought back.
@gilean6179
@gilean6179 10 месяцев назад
I had posters of these guys (PDM team et al) in my bedroom when I was a did in the early 90s. Jeeez.
@robbienl8176
@robbienl8176 Месяц назад
Awesome team
@foobarbazquux
@foobarbazquux Год назад
Rooks looked great in the polka dot jersey
@cenobitek
@cenobitek 21 день назад
Its just nice to hear someone using their real voice to narrate instead of that AI crap.
@KevinKimmich44024
@KevinKimmich44024 Год назад
I would love to believe lemond was clean since he suffered so bad during the epo era and since he was a hero when I was a young man. USA cycling had that blood doping scandal back in 1984, though... So if that method was already out there and was used by the Olympic team, it's not hard to imagine it was pervasive.
@213tpg
@213tpg Год назад
It's very hard to believe a clean guy can beat everyone at the highest level when almost everyone else is doping. Possible he was clean but for me it seems unlikely anyone winning was clean in cycling for a very, very long time.
@gerardvdelshout
@gerardvdelshout 10 месяцев назад
He beat people “clean” in an age where they were already doing blood transfusions, testosterone etc. And a BS vo2 max story. Blood doping literally increases your vo2 max.
@Shopsmith10er
@Shopsmith10er 10 месяцев назад
LeMond was a loaner racing in Europe and wasn't exactly as an accepted team member. Furthermore was closely watched over and scrutinized. Do you see why his teammates weren't as tight with him? It's because he 'wasn't like them cheats. Ps Put Hinault on the cheat list. He's admitted to it.
@leenverkade
@leenverkade 8 месяцев назад
I have doubts about that too. Though on the other hand the clean guys do Paris-Roubaix 1 hour faster now than the doped guys in the 80s. So its possible, and Lemond definitely was inventive. But dont think he was that far ahead of his time.
@flachi32
@flachi32 Год назад
Gert-Jan still the last Dutch KOM winner in Tdf but now hardly able to climb an escalator at age 59.
@rafaelwillems3244
@rafaelwillems3244 Год назад
So?
@flachi32
@flachi32 Год назад
@@rafaelwillems3244 it is sad how his health deteriorated so quickly partly due to his substance abuse
@PhilAndersonOutside
@PhilAndersonOutside Год назад
@@flachi32 He was also hit by a car at one point (I think on foot, not riding), causing partial paralysis.
@gmoerkerk8342
@gmoerkerk8342 10 месяцев назад
He is still amazingly fit and riding extreme offroads
@hendrikheemels8615
@hendrikheemels8615 Год назад
Delgado even was caught being doped in the Tour of '88, but wasn't punished for it. Unbelievable.
@rollinrat4850
@rollinrat4850 Год назад
The masking agent that was discovered was not made illegal until the year after. So they never actually found the dope in his test. Tour de Farce, it's nothing new. This years race was touted as the cleanest TDF ever. It was also the fastest in history. Golly, gee whiz, Just miraculous!
@PhilAndersonOutside
@PhilAndersonOutside Год назад
Problem was, he didn't actually break the rules. That doesn't mean he was clean though.
@swissbiggy
@swissbiggy Год назад
@@PhilAndersonOutside Nobody was and is clean. Sadly it is always the cycling sport we point at, because it ain't much better in Athletics, Biathlon, Triathlon, Tennis, Weightlifting, Nordic combination, Swimming and a ton of other sports.
@PhilAndersonOutside
@PhilAndersonOutside Год назад
@@swissbiggy Disagree with "nobody". But I'll admit every sport is dirty, and goes through waves where up to 99% of all competitors are doped or cheating in some way. There are no "waves" where 99% of competitors are clean.
@rollinrat4850
@rollinrat4850 Месяц назад
All elite sport is corrupt in some manner. Theres too much money for it not to be so. That doesnt PROVE all the athletes are cheating though. Cool thing about 'free speech' is that you can spew all sorts of BS with no evidence.
@thecasualfront7432
@thecasualfront7432 16 дней назад
Great thumbnail
@AvgDude
@AvgDude Год назад
These are all performances of Floyd Landis quality.
@needfoolthings
@needfoolthings Год назад
What monsters they were at the time! Today, only a drop of fish oil under the tongue.
@terencej72
@terencej72 26 дней назад
It's good that Cycling Stories acknowledges that Serie A was awash with dope in the 80's and 90's We all should know what Dr Ferrari said about the Spain National football team in the early to mid 2000's. Cyclists are an easy target when talking about doping but loads of other sports must do it. I know a famous former SPL (Scotland) footballer who said in his 15 year SPL carear he was tested no more than 2-3 times a year. I'm not accusing him of taking PED's but a couple of tests a year is a joke
@pierovittori1076
@pierovittori1076 16 дней назад
You sound very Irish Love the vid 💯
@rolffuchs2737
@rolffuchs2737 Год назад
So, it will never happen again, that a tall rider riding in the wind will win a sprint and a mountain stage and a time trial?
@jnavonoD
@jnavonoD Год назад
LOL van Aert wants a word.
@Mist7676
@Mist7676 Год назад
Roche the godfather of doping. Collapsing and almost died only to recover and win. Its a miracle as Lance would say
@MitchVanVit
@MitchVanVit Год назад
It was an inspiration as Floyd Landis would say !o!
@tommykarate5126
@tommykarate5126 8 месяцев назад
What about Kelly did he do the same as the rest ?
@silverarrowslk
@silverarrowslk Год назад
Theunisse @80 kg’s? 😂. Where did you get that weight from as it’s way inaccurate
@cyclingstories
@cyclingstories Год назад
In 89 he was so much thinner but in panasonic his weight was 77 kg as we watched
@drunkensailor112
@drunkensailor112 Год назад
@@cyclingstories what is your source for him being 77 kg?
@cyclingstories
@cyclingstories Год назад
Biography (didn't autorised so doesn't know it's 100% true) of Wielaert
@robbienl8176
@robbienl8176 Месяц назад
With all that hair he must be atleast 80kg 😅
@finefriendzz
@finefriendzz Год назад
@Cyclingstories: What makes you think Kneteman was clean that year?
@DreamteamCarlo
@DreamteamCarlo 2 месяца назад
Probably the same files from the PDM Team medics that made him conclude that all the other riders were not clean.
@DrtyALGreen
@DrtyALGreen Месяц назад
Haha I love Tour de Pharmacy...I quote it quite often about motocross. "There are hundreds dollars to play for....stakes are minimal." Lol
@EwenNicolson
@EwenNicolson Месяц назад
It's AI.
@simonloo1588
@simonloo1588 Год назад
Now I know what I try to emulate Delgado or rooks performance on 89tdf I never come near lol…..I was Inspired that year Tdf as a naive teenager then
@RaulVeldhuizen
@RaulVeldhuizen Год назад
I watched only a couple of minutes and there I already noticed a hugh mistake. Adri van der Poel is called Matthieu! (as I hear it, English isn't my mother language). Imo this puts the whole video on another quality level...... I reason: if such a simple thing isn't accurate than what about the more complicated aspects?
@pcdispatch
@pcdispatch 2 месяца назад
Adrie was a cyclist and is the father of Matthieu.
@RaulVeldhuizen
@RaulVeldhuizen 2 месяца назад
@@pcdispatch everybody knows that. But why is (or was?) he called Mathieu?
@pcdispatch
@pcdispatch 2 месяца назад
@@RaulVeldhuizen , you are right, I l played it back a few times and it seems it is a mistake.
@Mosely2007
@Mosely2007 Год назад
Love your videos. Quite entertaining. Do riders use Cbd to aide recovery now? Elec. Muscle Stimulators?. LeMond was a cut Above
@kingdc72
@kingdc72 Год назад
Great video and recap. I would suggest that Andy Bishop was not doping and that his performance over the rest of his career confirms that.
@fernandovega5722
@fernandovega5722 10 месяцев назад
Thank you. You are absolutely correct. I know him personally and he won't do that. Good call.
@skylineXpert
@skylineXpert Год назад
In Denmark we have a song called EPO sangen. Made by red warszawa by rewriting a christmas song
@michaelsteven1090
@michaelsteven1090 Год назад
Love these doped riders much more than today's "radio racers" ..at least they were thinking about how to win and not waiting for instructions..
@cedrichennert4869
@cedrichennert4869 Год назад
L
@brianmcg321
@brianmcg321 Год назад
Christian Vande Velde said it best in "A Road to Paris". When the radios don't work the rider will just sit on the back waiting for instruction. Just blank. Like NPCs, or when a game controller goes out.
@robertdinterman758
@robertdinterman758 Год назад
I totally agree. Racing was so much more exciting. I haven't watched the Tour in years. Just boring now.
@tman5634
@tman5634 Год назад
You love doped riders. That says more about you than the doped riders themselves.
@Raor1820
@Raor1820 Год назад
@@brianmcg321 Pogacar removed his radio the other day towards the end of the stage :D
@charles9215
@charles9215 10 месяцев назад
Please do one on Roberto Heras. I think he was the most doped climber ever
@robbo3132
@robbo3132 Год назад
Why did they get rid of the heamoglobin shirt?
@EMC2Scotia
@EMC2Scotia Год назад
In the reference to Rooks confessing in 2009, was this to undertaking blood transfusions during the '88 TDF, as was reported on Cyclingnews when the team soigneur at the time Bertus Folk discussed what they were doing? No mention from Folk or anyone else at PDM states EPO as being used this early, to my understanding. Perhaps you know something we don't, or it fits the narrative to pin point EPO's beginning here, rather than say spring 1990 and the Italian renaissance? A couple of other relatively minor points. Theunisse weighing 80kgs? I don't think so! When Parra won into Morzine in '88, he went away on the descent of the Corbier, linking up with a team mate who launched him onto the Pas de Morgins. Rooks, Simon and Claveroylat were behind and not overtaken as said, however they did clip off the front in the final km once the group reformed to contest 2nd. Fignon had a tapeworm during this TDF and knew he'd not be in contention, Bernard I recall developed a urine infection whilst Herrera over raced in the lead up (Vuelta, Dauphine, Vuelta a Colombia) and peaked too early to do anything against Delago and the PDM's. Finally, there were 3 who spoke out at the time against what was happening, being Bauer, Boyer and Hampsten.
@cyclingstories
@cyclingstories Год назад
Great comment. Rooks didn't use epo in this tdf but yes in 89. As we said the key in this tour were blood transfusions of both pdm riders.
@drunkensailor112
@drunkensailor112 Год назад
@@cyclingstories rooks has never said he used epo in 89. The first epo guys where bugno and chiapucchi in 1990.
@cyclingstories
@cyclingstories Год назад
He confessed in a book with Jakobs and Hermans
@drunkensailor112
@drunkensailor112 Год назад
@@cyclingstories no. In that book it is stated he started using epo after 89 without being specific on the year he started on it
@jaspermeinema4830
@jaspermeinema4830 Год назад
Wasn't it Conconi prepping Moser for his world record hour race? And way earlier, the runner Paavo Nurmi?
@allcapitols1554
@allcapitols1554 7 месяцев назад
1:29 ~ check out that front end shimmy
@Baltimoreborn
@Baltimoreborn Год назад
I was teammates on team monex with Roberto gagioli the long-haired Italian guy in the beginning of the video
@rollinrat4850
@rollinrat4850 Месяц назад
Roberto is the guy the Lancehole paid off to 'win' his 1st big race! Core States I seem to recall. Lancehole paid him $100k, Roberto said it in an interview. I saw Roberto win the Presidio circuit race in the '88 Coors Classic. Great hair! I remember him eating a banana while flying around a downhill corner at around 50mph, holding his bars in one hand! Quite impressive!
@eriktempelman2097
@eriktempelman2097 Год назад
Oh, and the oe in Van der Poel should sound like the oo in fool. Also easy to remember.
@torreylincoln2658
@torreylincoln2658 Год назад
You’ve got your facts wrong on this video. While Rooks and team were doping and he has admitted to it, they weren’t using epo in 88. Read the admissions of the soigneur who administered the drugs they were using. Also you can read Rooks admission about when he took epo, and it’s after 88.
@cyclingstories
@cyclingstories Год назад
89
@henrik5284
@henrik5284 Год назад
Could you do a video on today's magnificent ride by Mr. van Aert? Breakaway from km 0 and yet full of energy on the final climb to leave Pogachar behind....! And all this after having spent day after day in the race attacking. Oh yes, history will remember this fantastic rider and his incredible Tour-performances 😆
@irl-cyclist01
@irl-cyclist01 Год назад
Jumbo juice
@miguelpereira9859
@miguelpereira9859 Год назад
Dude casually dropped specialist climbers and looked like he wasn't even hurting until last km's of the Hautacam lol
@Raor1820
@Raor1820 Год назад
Agree something suspicious. I am more likely believing motordoping.
@user-ui6kv2np8i
@user-ui6kv2np8i Год назад
WVA is on more 'weetabix' than the rest of the fucking peloton combined. He was that fast at the start (50km) that the other couple of riders couldn't even slipstream and hold his wheel, and he rode the 1st 20 km SOLO ! That effort would have fucked anyone up, but no, he didn't even need to wipe his brow and instead proceeded to power his way into every break during the stage too. And he's done this DAY IN DAY OUT, and the ONLY thing the commentators can do is fawn the fuck all over him, pathetic. The ONLY reason he stopped after Pog had been dropped is because if he'd carried on, which ofc he was more than capable of doing, it would have had people talking. I'm pretty sure that if he had wanted to, he'd have blown Ving away as well to the finish. The rest of the peloton know he's as daf, but, ofc, they can't speak out. He makes Armstrong and God mode Basso in his giro year and Riis in his TDF year, look like innocent choirboys. Rest of his JV team on his 'weetabix'? ofc, but not as much. Take Ving in the TT, as an example, the guy's only 60 fucking kilos but was in the lead for most of the way until he dropped off slightly due to him almost having a bad accident, probably got a call through his radio 'slow the fuck down'.
@user-ui6kv2np8i
@user-ui6kv2np8i Год назад
@@miguelpereira9859 He wasn't even hurting after Pog was dropped, but if he didn't slow to a crawl once JV was safely in the lead it would just have been too fucking obvious.
@onerider808
@onerider808 Месяц назад
4:25 The clip of the roided-out bodybuilder on a bike was epic.
@pietkonijn5522
@pietkonijn5522 11 месяцев назад
Hij die zonder zonde is werpe de eerste steen ! Laen we wel wezen, vanaf 60 gebruikten alle (?) toprenners middelen.
@MYRRHfamily
@MYRRHfamily 23 дня назад
Lance Armstrong shared the TDF podium with 14 other cyclists. 13 of them forfeited their podium finishes due to doping. I was the last person alive to believe Lance was clean, but this second fact is what really turned me off the sport. I love cycling, but it is not about competition.
@StevenBornfeld
@StevenBornfeld Год назад
"...being more fired up than Kanye West when he saw Kim Kardashian with Pete Davidson."
@jnavonoD
@jnavonoD Год назад
Good thing today's massive gains in average speed are all thanks to aerodynamics. Enjoyed the vid, thanks mate.
@TesterAnimal1
@TesterAnimal1 Год назад
Us plebs have yet to find out what they’re on now. It’ll come out eventually.
@jnavonoD
@jnavonoD Год назад
@@TesterAnimal1 Nah they are full natty bro 🤡🤡 haha...
@Brolaeggerdk
@Brolaeggerdk Год назад
Even the lions was doped back then...
@independentmind1977
@independentmind1977 9 месяцев назад
Love it.. "More drugs at PCM than at a Cypress Hill concert"
@jeez0r
@jeez0r Год назад
gartian toonissay maddeleen vanderpole , that accent lol
@Marksmith2-qu6tl
@Marksmith2-qu6tl 10 месяцев назад
My niehbour is mechanically doped he passes me everymorning on his giant ebike at 60 ks hour and cheeky says have a good workout
@mg4861
@mg4861 10 месяцев назад
10:40 Grotesque the same of today, when you see a 55-60 kgs climber do time trial Better than a 80 kgs specialist. What an "electrical" show.
@Jakiou
@Jakiou Год назад
ROLF SØRENSEN IS CLEAN!
@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe
@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe 20 дней назад
Even then mullets not compatible with such an honorable sport.
@stevennorth6484
@stevennorth6484 Год назад
Phillipa York didn't exist then it was Robert Millar.
@Sobieskicharge
@Sobieskicharge Год назад
You should do a video on Vingegaard this tour. How is he this good? Which jet fuel is he on?
@91Redmist
@91Redmist Год назад
Air BP?
@Sills71
@Sills71 5 месяцев назад
PDM stood for "perfectly doped men"
@dutchdelights
@dutchdelights Год назад
Hmmm, looked up Wout van Aert, 1.90 m. 78 kg.
@c3ell
@c3ell Год назад
It's been commented here before ...you deserve millions of subscribers
@bikeomatic8005
@bikeomatic8005 Месяц назад
wasnt sean king kelly rumored to enhance his form too? whats concerning is that in last few years no major scandals in cycling, they either finally got clean or new drugs are undetectable
@hughjazzzzzzz6220
@hughjazzzzzzz6220 Год назад
Can you make a video of volta Portugal Raul alarcon
@frugalferg
@frugalferg Год назад
I'm not sure I like your comment about Sean Kelly, 'always failing in the mountains'. Clearly you have a fantastic knowledge of cycling therefore as you well know, Sean was a sprint and classics specialist, incredibly successful in both. WVA is a modern day Sean and pound for pound, the best cyclist in the world but he's not good in the mountains. WVA and Sean, imho are/were never considered as Grand tour potential winners because of their specialisms. Horses for courses. Of course, I stand corrected. Keep up the fantastic work you do, well done.
@Greg.Sutton
@Greg.Sutton Год назад
Sean Kelly was for a short period for sure a Grand Tour GC contender... taking a few top 10 placings at the TDF in the early 1980's and also a 4th & 9th overall in La Vuelta before finally winning the Vuelta in 1988.
@frugalferg
@frugalferg Год назад
@@Greg.Sutton you're 100% right. I forgot about his Vuelta win. So, I'm wrong. I'm glad because I am even more in awe of the man's achievements. Incredible.
@bobjackson3735
@bobjackson3735 Год назад
And Wout not good in the mountains? Did you not see him win Mt Ventoux last year? He may not be a serious gc contender, but he can certainly climb...
@robbylong2748
@robbylong2748 Год назад
I thought I was the only one that made the comparison WVA to Sean Kelly and he being the modern day Kelly, I agree 100%
@stevozrepto5558
@stevozrepto5558 Год назад
Kelly won tour of Spain 2 Times buddy
@tatigil1000
@tatigil1000 Год назад
An old one today... he're we go again like whitesnake
@alankillian
@alankillian Год назад
Good vid, read like an Irish fairytale, but good.
@Tazangamoz
@Tazangamoz Год назад
💯
@MrGoranPa
@MrGoranPa Год назад
4:17 What is this??? :D Doped to explosion?
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