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The First Humans on Mars 

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Elon Musk’s SpaceX program proposes that 100 people could be sent to colonize Mars within 10 years. What might that colony look like? This episode was supported by CuriosityStream. Go to curiositystream.com/spacetime and use the promo code SPACETIME
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NASA recently announced that they plan to have astronauts in orbit around Mars within 25 years. Not to be outdone, Elon Musk boldly stated that he could prepare a mission to Mars within 10 years. Musk’s SpaceX plan would transport a hundred people to the red planet. Their mission wouldn’t be to visit Mars but to colonize it. In this episode of Space Time Matt breaks down the challenges that the first humans on Mars would face and how they could overcome them.
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@CrimBlack
@CrimBlack 7 лет назад
Email notification said: "PBS Spacetime has uploaded The First Humans on Mars". Impressive. I thought you'd need a rocket or something.
@adolfodef
@adolfodef 7 лет назад
It is true! They transmitted the conciousness of those to the Curiosity Rover. It is still a clickbait, because it does not have the hardware to actually "run" them in real time.
@sophrapsune
@sophrapsune 7 лет назад
Crimbly Rockets are so Twentieth Century...
@DanielDogeanu
@DanielDogeanu 7 лет назад
What can I say man, technology advances very fast.
@Vidz0022
@Vidz0022 7 лет назад
go home dad
@charlesbrightman4237
@charlesbrightman4237 7 лет назад
I am home, the universe is my home.
@dosmastrify
@dosmastrify 7 лет назад
he said solar outburst and I pictured the sun throwing a tantrum.
@Aruthicon
@Aruthicon 7 лет назад
dosmastrify Fucking brilliant.
@ThrottleKitty
@ThrottleKitty 7 лет назад
That's basically exactly what it is too. lol
@MauriceLeviejr
@MauriceLeviejr 7 лет назад
dosmastrify yes CMEs are badass
@travnat1
@travnat1 5 лет назад
Yeah, the Sun is a liberal millennial
@CamaroRick
@CamaroRick 7 лет назад
Before we go to Mars, we should build a more stable leveling system for the MAV so it doesn't tip this time.
@Frame.40
@Frame.40 7 лет назад
Leave the earth, its just too fucked up. Make a new civilization without trump or dumb people. Oh yea trump is dumb too xD
@TheGodEmperorOfMankind_
@TheGodEmperorOfMankind_ 7 лет назад
Or learn how to seal the fuel ring so it doesn't explode again.
@noahmartin2130
@noahmartin2130 7 лет назад
We can just use duct tape an potatoes
@selsuru
@selsuru 7 лет назад
Review Shark, Hitlery supporters are far more dangerous than Trump fans.
@thegreatr3dbeard153
@thegreatr3dbeard153 7 лет назад
and maybe don't send Fred Randall this time.
@chrisp5109
@chrisp5109 7 лет назад
so if they have children on Mars wont they technically be Martians?
@MarcusAseth
@MarcusAseth 7 лет назад
only if you accept to be an Earthian I guess
@AlgoJerViA
@AlgoJerViA 7 лет назад
We are Earthlings as opposed to a Martians.
@MarcusAseth
@MarcusAseth 7 лет назад
AlgoJerViA why not Marslings then? Just to keep things uniform you know :S
@AlgoJerViA
@AlgoJerViA 7 лет назад
I think Marslings and Earthican are grammatically correct but convention tends them to be used as a second alternative often jokingly. Few languages have any uniformity at all you know. :/
@MarcusAseth
@MarcusAseth 7 лет назад
AlgoJerViA then few languages are doing it right I guess xD
@fmaz1952
@fmaz1952 7 лет назад
Finally a video I fully understood from start to finish ! Wooohooo !
@MarcusAseth
@MarcusAseth 7 лет назад
Step 1: self sustained community on earth in the most inospitable places for us Step 2: think about mars. So aren't they skipping a step?!
@noxabellus
@noxabellus 7 лет назад
We already have outposts in antartica what more do you want man
@monster2slayer
@monster2slayer 7 лет назад
noxabellus self sustaining stations would be a good idea. antarctic bases are entirely reliant on supplies.
@MarcusAseth
@MarcusAseth 7 лет назад
noxabellus yeah not those outposts, I mean a place here on Earth where they produce their own food indoor, they dispose of their own "wastes", and maybe let's add the oxygen production underwater challenge, not the "let's have the surface sending us tanks already filled with oxygen :D
@MarcusAseth
@MarcusAseth 7 лет назад
I may be wrong in this but part of me believes that Elon Musk is pushing this Mars thing ahead of times, so the rushing for Mars will make us skip important steps and make the whole thing fail in the beggining, maybe ultimately slowing a Mars colony from happening more than it would have been otherwise? Looking forward to see how it will go, but that's the feeling I have about it :P
@Derekristow
@Derekristow 7 лет назад
The thing is, there's very little reason to build something 100% self sustaining here on Earth when just importing materials is so easy. Pushing for Mars gives us the incentive we need to develop those technologies, since they're such a necessary part of the journey and eventual colony. In his presentation Musk mentions that science doesn't advance on its own, people have to go out there and work for it.
@marcelloberry6829
@marcelloberry6829 4 года назад
It’s gonna be so weird when it says your planet on your birth certificate
@HT-rq5pi
@HT-rq5pi 7 лет назад
this is a very interesting time to be alive indeed
@seansola6708
@seansola6708 4 года назад
So you're interested in science watch nisemonogatari
@upchurch231
@upchurch231 3 года назад
I disagree. We are about 100 years too early.
@vibezz127
@vibezz127 2 года назад
Its 2021. You have put this comment 4 years ago..
@futureDK1
@futureDK1 7 лет назад
i volunteer for a one way mission.
@brachisaurous
@brachisaurous 7 лет назад
OnlineDater69 they r looking for someone to fly a rocket into space, not a building! 😳😳😳
@feynstein1004
@feynstein1004 7 лет назад
I'd too but there's no wifi there.
@Parmigiano1
@Parmigiano1 7 лет назад
There will be wifi and probably some sort of connection to the Internet. But you will wait almost half hour to get any response :D
@futureDK1
@futureDK1 7 лет назад
For real I could mentally endure a long trip in space with unlimited internet to watch youtube and a collection of books on a tablet. Eat, sleep, read, watch repeat lol
@sketchyskateboardingasmr6531
@sketchyskateboardingasmr6531 7 лет назад
but then how will you meet with your online dates
@stevepittman3770
@stevepittman3770 7 лет назад
I'm with you on the Venusian cloud-cities, though building them is a lot trickier than just digging some tunnels on Mars.
@KritikX
@KritikX Год назад
please first clean your kitchen
@CharlesDourdy
@CharlesDourdy 7 лет назад
I think it makes a lot more sense to start with sending more robots to Mars in the short term and then build up infrastructure to send humans later. Rather than sending 100 humans and air and water and food along with construction materials, why not send just the construction materials and robots? I know NASA has "rovers" rolling around taking samples and such which is great I agree. But if the intent is to build structures from the local resources, why not get that phase going? Robots that scoop up dirt and at the very least start the refining process. The more they can pre-build the more available materials there will be for those eventual colonists when they do arrive. Also with the likelihood of our needing to live underground in lava tubes, why not get a head start by sending in rovers to investigate these lava tubes? If the robots are smart enough they could even find weak points in the tubes and either shore up weak ceilings or put in some foam to seal up small cracks in the walls. All with the intended purpose that when people finally get to Mars, they have somewhere to go.
@Jaboody27
@Jaboody27 7 лет назад
1. There's actually only 1 rover rolling around Mars. It's called Curiosity. 2. I agree robots to harvest resources should be first. Send robots each time with different purposes. Y not? He's got the money. 3. Any humans sent to Mars should be limited and engineers. With the sole purpose of repairing all the damaged bots. Because technologically we just aren't there yet to have self sustaining and repairing bots.
@Bananaplox
@Bananaplox 7 лет назад
I think sending lots of robots to Mars in the short term will be extremely important for survival, but I definitely think we can do both. The ITS is going to be MASSIVE, 100 tons of cargo to the surface is no joke, the "Spaceship" will be also used as the main infrastructure before inflatable habs are set up. Elon has stated 5-10x cargo flights for every manned flight and that in the beginning the first flights would likely have only a few dozen people. Having humans on the surface ASAP would allow maintenance of the robots and local input/control(15 minute ping is tough and risky) Not to mention the science!
@Bananaplox
@Bananaplox 7 лет назад
Opportunity is still active ;)
@Jaboody27
@Jaboody27 7 лет назад
CryptoFox Your right about Opportunity! Damn you Opportunity would u settle down already. I was thinking Pathfinder and the one off Spirit that are inactive. Opportunity is the one that's like over a decade and still inching its way along. Old robot just won't give up. Exactly why we need 100 more harvesting resources ;)
@MrTripcore
@MrTripcore 7 лет назад
I agree that a combination of both might be ideal.. or even if it is just a scout robot to suss out the local terrain to begin with
@cyaneyed7146
@cyaneyed7146 7 лет назад
Matt rocks. I've just discovered a channel run by astronomer Isaac Arthur who has lots of vids on interstellar travel, fermi paradox, black hole farming, post scarcity civilizations etc. Eye opening stuff.
@GreyDeathVaccine
@GreyDeathVaccine 6 лет назад
I love SFIA channel for thinking BIG! :-) Starlifiting for example :-)
@TomMS
@TomMS 7 лет назад
Instant like for mentioning centrifugal force with respect to the ring.
@mattscatterty
@mattscatterty 7 лет назад
Hey, PBS Spacetime team: Perchlorates! There is one really interesting fundamental problem regarding Martian soil that you did not address! Martian soil contains reactive salts called Perchlorates, which are highly toxic to humans, even at the 0.5%-1% levels found in Martian soil. Skin contact and inhalation can cause burns, and ingestion can cause sickness or death, depending upon the amount ingested. This is another reason that hydroponics would be a good idea for growing crops, because any food grown in the perchlorate-rich soil would be poisonous to humans. There are bacteria on Earth that eat perchlorates and spit out useful things such as oxygen as a waste product, so we could theoretically use these microbes to make safe soil for crops and oxygen for breathing. What are your thoughts on the efficacy, safety and ethical implications of deliberately introducing microbial life from Earth into Martian soil? Either way, perchlorates in fine dust particles will almost inevitably get into suits and habitats, so that's something to be addressed as well...
@Thesamdeman22
@Thesamdeman22 7 лет назад
Eat perchlorates and spit out oxygen!? That sounds quite ideal doesn't it!
@mattscatterty
@mattscatterty 7 лет назад
+Camid Daveron It really does! There are concerns over using earth bacteria to convert to deal with the toxic perchlorates in the Martian soil though! As much as "eating perchlorates and splitting out oxygen as a byproduct" sounds amazing, there is still the ethical concern of deliberately introducing large quantities of Earth microbiology into Martian soil. How could contaminating the soil with Earth bacteria disturb our search for native Martian microbiology? Could these bacteria pose a harm to humans or crops grown in the soil? What are the implications of introducing the "first" microbiology to Mars and potentially giving them an entire planet's worth of resources without any competition?? How could this all effect future terraforming efforts? Are these bacteria a reliable way to remove 100% of the toxic perchlorates from the soil? Etc. Lots of questions!
@feynstein1004
@feynstein1004 7 лет назад
+Matthew Scatterty That just seems like a stupid excuse for people to get upset. We don't know if Mars even has any life, or if microbes from earth will be able to survive there. Also, you're taking sentient piles of billions of microbes to Mars. How would you prevent some from escaping human habitats and colonizing the entire planet? It's inevitable.
@mattscatterty
@mattscatterty 7 лет назад
+Feynstein 100 I know it's a discussion that's being had! I mean, if they conclude that there is no current microbial life on Mars, nor any past life of any kind, then it removes one of the potentially problematic factors. As far as if the Earth microbes can survive, they would probably have to be extremophiles or at least genetically modified with DNA from extremophilic organisms to help them withstand the conditions on Mars. Actually, consider scratching that last bit, if they're only meant to be inside the artificial habitats then the environment will be much less extreme and I don't know what difficulties they'd face in thriving on Mars. Either way, even if we don't deliberately bring Earth microbial life, the second we send humans down to the planet, we'll have cultures of microbial life that are at risk of escaping onto the planet's surface. So contamination is a serious matter to consider regardless.
@mattscatterty
@mattscatterty 7 лет назад
+Feynstein 100 Also, although there are differing definitions of the word "sentient", I don't think microbes would qualify. Though it's obviously a bit of a grey area, I just can't imagine microbes have any real form of subjective experience without a nervous system. But I guess that's a discussion for another time haha.
@ptracey9560
@ptracey9560 7 лет назад
I love your Shows Man! Theres so much to learn from them and you present the physics with good analogies that are easy to understand. Keep up the great work !
@luclongly529
@luclongly529 6 лет назад
Why does this guy look like a full sized Peter Dinklage? 🤔
@OrbitalAstronaut
@OrbitalAstronaut 6 лет назад
Luc Longly by God you're right.
@blueckaym
@blueckaym 5 лет назад
I guess, because he drinks and knows things ;)
@tentimesful
@tentimesful 5 лет назад
I think they canceled this project as there was no sex in the mentioning.. idiot... and also no coming back mission what an idiocracy, how difficult is a launch pad to return to home and a space car to earth just crash at ISS for crying out loud..
@thomaswijgerse723
@thomaswijgerse723 5 лет назад
@@tentimesful yeah, they could use the tesla roadster, it doesnt need fuel anyways since its electric!
@aniketbiswas7660
@aniketbiswas7660 5 лет назад
God bless I see it now
@crayvun2196
@crayvun2196 7 лет назад
Thank you, as always, SpaceTime! What you guys do is really wonderful. Good vibes to you all
@Majinant
@Majinant 7 лет назад
Watch almost any Gundam or anime with similar stories. Eventually WAR will break out between Earth and Mars.
@markom.4201
@markom.4201 7 лет назад
Or just watch the history between USA and Britain - Very similar to Mars-Earth.
@karthikeyan020
@karthikeyan020 7 лет назад
+Michi Murgdalena For that Mars would have to be richer. But I think a colony on mars would mean less government control and more freedom and hence it would develop much faster than earth.
@rykehuss3435
@rykehuss3435 7 лет назад
As the colony on Mars grows, a government will arise 100% of the time. You have elected leaders, unions, political parties etc. More freedom would actually mean that it would develop slower and might even be subject to be a complete failure because of internal conflicts. What happens when two groups have freedoms that interfere with eachother? You get a conflict, and if there is no official body to resolve that conflict (like the police, justice system, government etc), sooner or later you end up with violence.
@karthikeyan020
@karthikeyan020 7 лет назад
Rykehuss I think, instead of a government, you would possibly see the corporations themselves do those things and if not done right, might cause several scandals but their main motivation would be making money and innovation. They won't look much into welfare or comfortness of the residents. But more on efficiency. They wouldn't care much about beliefs and feels... They are data driven and scientific which means better for group but not so much for individuals.
@samthfkr
@samthfkr 7 лет назад
If it comes down to war, the Earth would absolutely annihilate Mars.
@christophergamble9334
@christophergamble9334 7 лет назад
Why did Matt, a physicist, just say centralfugal force and not centripetal force like it actually is?
@pbsspacetime
@pbsspacetime 7 лет назад
The centripetal "center-pointing" force is the force that stops you flying off the centrifuge. It's the force exerted on your feet by the wall of the ring. The centrifugal force is the "fictious" force that feels like a an acceleration outwards. It takes the mathematical form of a force in a rotating reference frame. But a rotating reference frame is non-inertial, which is why it's not technically a real force.
@delawarecop
@delawarecop 7 лет назад
"But a rotating reference frame is non-inertial, which is why it's not technically a real force" Kinda like gravity:)
@delawarecop
@delawarecop 7 лет назад
What we really need is a society to get along here on earth, where there aren't any rich privileged people, nor any poor starving people - just humans. Then and only then can mankind venture beyond this planet to find suitable habitation - otherwise its merely a futile exercise in expensive exotic travel for the privileged few, at the expense of the lives of fellow humans.
@mikesloan3924
@mikesloan3924 7 лет назад
Yeah i'm thinking along the same lines. The problem i keep coming to, when everyone keeps talking about mars is when you hear phrases such as 'it's hard because of this' or 'it has to be self sustaining' etc. I totally get that you have to sometimes do flashy things like 'people on mars!', or hard things to make true progress, but a huge part of me says that science and manufacturing is advancing at such a rapid rate right now, can't we just 'chill' for just a short while - and really nail down some of the tech, methods and calculations needed. Just for our own solar system the cost's of travel are currently insane if governments don't step in more than they currently do. We can obviously learn alot by planning and then doing these missions but, a robot can work out whats actually out there, with more sensory capabilties and instruments for far cheaper than sending whats essentially a big 70kg bag of water that needs constant feeding, gases, water, entertainment etc. Like Virtual Reality i get that someone needs to go first and take chances, but it's all becoming a bit tiresome for me personally. I'd be more interested in taking all the funding for a mars colony and investing directly into current science efforts on earth, or for some giant space dry-dock type thing in orbit over earth, as a place to launch asteroid mining vessels from perhaps. I suppose my long winded point is that it would be great to just tech up and start with the building blocks first, rather than jumping straight to just having people on mars.
@Teboski78
@Teboski78 7 лет назад
Christopher Gamble cen·trif·u·gal force nounPHYSICS an apparent force that acts outward on a body moving around a center, arising from the body's inertia.
@Armin2012
@Armin2012 7 лет назад
0:39 hold up.... 100 people.... Awww hell yeah
@Bountyhunter306
@Bountyhunter306 7 лет назад
Red Mars? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@182159
@182159 7 лет назад
100 people dying
@Armin2012
@Armin2012 7 лет назад
MG come on, dont be that guy
@ozdergekko
@ozdergekko 7 лет назад
They will, eventually.
@Dee-jp7ek
@Dee-jp7ek 7 лет назад
Being a Martian, I for one do not want Earthlings to come and rape our women and take our jobs. Lets build a giant space wall around Mars! #MakeMarsGreatAgain
@gustavbabic5004
@gustavbabic5004 7 лет назад
I think that the people of Mars should elect their own Martian Hillary Clinton, who in public tells the voters that she supports securing the Martian border, but in reality she's secretly in favor of unchecked immigration from Earth! Years later when the Martian way of life and culture has been completely and utterly destroyed, Martian Hillary Clinton will tell the masses that their woes are due to Martian corporate greed, and the brainwashed lemmings of Mars will buy it hook line and sinker.
@Dee-jp7ek
@Dee-jp7ek 7 лет назад
Gustav Babic especially when Martian's realize that immigration and emigration are simply part of a civilization and that dirupting that flow with an over-protected boarder will only cause more Earthlings to overstay visas and illegally remain on Mars >.>
@gustavbabic5004
@gustavbabic5004 7 лет назад
Andii Neushul Yeah, tell that to the people of Germany who have recently been murdered, raped, and robbed by the highly civilized Syrian refugees. Isn't it funny how only western countries are required to have open borders, but countries such as China, India, and Mexico keep their borders locked down tight, and do not allow ANYONE to live and work illegally in those countries. If you want to destroy a country, then open borders is the best way to do it.
@Dee-jp7ek
@Dee-jp7ek 7 лет назад
Gustav Babic Ignorance, prejudice and hate never protect nor progress a society. Being the pinicle of 'freedom' 'justness' and 'opportunity' we should be leading by example. Showing the world our 'generocity' and 'compassion', not turning tail and falling back on all the racism, intolerance, hate and ignorance that has been the actual reality since day 1 of our founding. Its time to grow up, put our money where our mouth is and actually BECOME the nation that we pretend to be.
@gustavbabic5004
@gustavbabic5004 7 лет назад
So the only way I cannot be ignorant, prejudiced, or hateful is if I agree to have my country overrun by undocumented immigrants? I'm tired of showing the rest of the world generosity, because in my opinion the rest of the world is populated by irresponsible people who always insist on having more children than what they can afford. Keep flooding the west with illiterate people from alien cultures and you can kiss what little freedom that still remains good bye. I'm not interested in helping you. Fix your own country!
@djbslectures
@djbslectures 7 лет назад
If you never will return to Earth, is adapting down to.38 g, is the loss of bone/strength any more a problem than the fact that I couldn't stand up on Super Mario World?
@djbslectures
@djbslectures 7 лет назад
Why do you need to?
@Qermaq
@Qermaq 7 лет назад
Our species cannot evolve that quickly. Maybe if the differential was less it'd be ok.
@sophrapsune
@sophrapsune 7 лет назад
DJBsLectures You ask a good question, to which we probably do not have a complete answer yet. It's not just about bone strength. It's also about redistribution of body fluids, altered visual geometry, altered ventilation, cardiovascular changes, and other physiological changes whose implications we've barely begun to understand. Many, many PhDs and clinical research papers would come out of such a mission, trying to answer questions of the sort you pose.
@Noodler
@Noodler 7 лет назад
We would break and fracture our bones every 4 seconds
@cherrydragon3120
@cherrydragon3120 7 лет назад
if the gravity is only 0,38 that of earth... humans on mars do not need the weight they have right? so... in long term bones might lose mass... but the bodies might grow in size and mass to keep the person on the ground. cuz yeah... you junp three times as high as earth... and if you get lighter you might fly out of the planet lol... so its nothing but obvious people their total weight might increase to keep them down. altho this mwans they require more food minerals vitamins etc to stay that way. i think ppl that are obese have a perfect life out there xD they see their weight decrease due to lower gravity. 😂
@rtrgpr
@rtrgpr 7 лет назад
This is undoubtedly my favorite episode in a while. You're awesome.
@azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn
@azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn 7 лет назад
5:18 Maybe we could use prisms to split the light to use just its useful wavelengths and keep out the higher energy radiation?
@Samsam-kl2lk
@Samsam-kl2lk 7 лет назад
azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn possibly... interesting concept
@azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn
@azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn 7 лет назад
Could even use it to direct the higher energy light into a specific room that holds the medical equipment to help keep it sterilized
@filipprochazka4961
@filipprochazka4961 7 лет назад
That would definitelly work with photon based radiation; sadly, the biggest problems are with other-particle based radiation, that the prisms wouldn't filter away.
@azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn
@azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn 7 лет назад
Filip Procházka Like beta particles?
@filipprochazka4961
@filipprochazka4961 7 лет назад
Beta particles, high energy free protons, etc.
@Khannea
@Khannea 7 лет назад
Holy shit you arouse me. Me i am really most interested in High Metallicity Near Earth Asteroids. *Screw gravity wells*!
@dosmastrify
@dosmastrify 7 лет назад
takei:. OH MY
@oDTRT
@oDTRT 7 лет назад
ew
@Draxis32
@Draxis32 7 лет назад
"If commenting is ensure to result in dating, then you must comment! SUN TZU said that. And I'd say she knows a little more about flerting than you do PALS, because she INVENTED IT. And then she perfected it so that no living woman could best her in the ring of honor! THEN she used her entire bank money to buy 2 trips to Great Britan, and then she hurdled him to a BOAT, AND BEAT THE CRAP OUT EVERY SINGLE SPERM CELL. HEHEHHE AND FROM THAT DAY FORWARD ANYTIME YOU SEE KHANNEA SUN TZU COMMENTING ON RU-vid YOU CALL THE ZOO! ... ..... ..... UNLESS SHE'S A FARM!
@austindrapen8959
@austindrapen8959 7 лет назад
I'm just imagining NASA's astronauts stepping on to mars and doing a reiteration of the one step for a man speech and then a couple of space bros just walking up and being like "bruh, what took you so long?"
@Annapurna818
@Annapurna818 3 года назад
You mean China
@towb0at
@towb0at 7 лет назад
If Space Time + Vsauce make a video together that would be amazing
@nightlightabcd
@nightlightabcd 5 лет назад
I'm surprised and impressed that you brought up the problem of gravity, or the lack of, since most moon or Mars sales pitches don't address the lack of gravity problem, for obvious reasons!
@Imperiused
@Imperiused 7 лет назад
Yeah, I'm so over Mars. Venus or bust!
@DHMO1
@DHMO1 7 лет назад
Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing Venus's bust, myself!
@Like34ninjas
@Like34ninjas 7 лет назад
because of the other PBS space time video? XD i saw it too. it's all i think about.
@Imperiused
@Imperiused 7 лет назад
DHMO1 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@erisentropy1552
@erisentropy1552 7 лет назад
Venus would kill you so bad m8 it is allot closer tho.
@dosmastrify
@dosmastrify 7 лет назад
ahem, it's #OccupyVenus
@BryanFerris-saffronsnail
@BryanFerris-saffronsnail 7 лет назад
This is one of my favorite channels. Thanks for making informative, non-sensational videos. ^_^
@StreetRoots
@StreetRoots 7 лет назад
I think a Lunar Colony, modeled on the historic Antarctic Treaty, dedicated to science, open to all nations for research, would be the next logical step in this process of becoming a space-fairing species.
@Delta_Tesseract
@Delta_Tesseract 7 лет назад
This was a fun episode. Many thanks to all those who made it happen.
@nocturne9257
@nocturne9257 7 лет назад
I'm imagining Martian colonists living in hobbit holes when he says they could live underground.
@merloon
@merloon 7 лет назад
'In a hole in the ground there lived a martian..."
@Thesamdeman22
@Thesamdeman22 7 лет назад
it really would make for a boring middle-earth though XD
@sophrapsune
@sophrapsune 7 лет назад
Nocturne Awesome. They'd also have to wear mid-Eighteenth Century English lower middle class attire. There used to be a game called "Space 1889" which showed how that would all look!
@Deus69xxx1
@Deus69xxx1 7 лет назад
if it came to living underground, i'd forsee it being more akin to a 'red colony' setting, at least superficially. there probably won't be the whole 'this corporation is enslaving everyone' and all that (at least, not at first, because you know, corporations). it would obviously depend on how deep we could dig, but finding bedrock (which in some form exists since there are lava tubes) and essentially carving city squares out of it isn't unthinkable if the proper construction equipment can be hauled up there. i mean think about it: we make basements all the time. with less gravity, you could thin walls a bit to conserve space. get a bunch of backhoes up there, start digging, shore up walls, dig farther, keep shoring up... just like mining! at some depth, it's decided far enough, make floors and walls, make higher floors. kinda like sky scrapers in reverse.
@Deus69xxx1
@Deus69xxx1 7 лет назад
^ by red colony, i meant red faction. fun game P:
@Pika250
@Pika250 7 лет назад
Will mars have its internet connection and will it connect with earth's? Within earth is fast, but between earth and mars would be slower by a significant amount. It takes light like two seconds to start at earth, reach the moon, and bounce back at earth, so it would certainly take much longer if the moon was replaced with mars, making the earth-mars connection get that much more lag compared to a one-planet internet, which is especially notable for (say) action and fighting games like Mario kart or smash bros.
@oOZdemOo
@oOZdemOo 7 лет назад
Not sure internet connection for gaming application is a major concern of Nasa's/spaceX's. As a fellow gamer, I can only share your concern though
@ajaykumarsingh702
@ajaykumarsingh702 7 лет назад
Quantum entangled particles can't carry information on them, so quantum telecommunication is not an option.
@ajaykumarsingh702
@ajaykumarsingh702 7 лет назад
da139114 So we are back to Telegraphs huh. Well, now that you have mentioned it, i think it's possible to create a faster communication system with the help of super computers which will convert the beeps of quantum telegraph instantly into readable messages or video calls.
@XerShadowTail
@XerShadowTail 7 лет назад
There would likely be an internet-like connection between Earth and Mars which uses the bundle protocol (RFC 5050). This is a communication layer designed for long delays and in situations where routing points disappear for awhile. If we do actually land on Mars and have a colony there, this mostly unused protocol would likely start being used. E-Mail would work perfectly fine over the bundle protocol and using PGP you would not need to worry about eavesdropping. Twitter would also work fine for shorter messages. On the Mars end, there would likely be a cache that is used to access the internet to provide content. Think of it as a more up-to-date archive.org, but where the web is made available in snapshots. So if someone on Mars went to look at a web-site and it was not in the cached, there could be an hour or more delay before it gets refreshed for it to be made visible.
@johnrichie7199
@johnrichie7199 7 лет назад
With Morse code when you want a dash, you get a dash 100% of the time. Want a dot, you get a dot 100% of the time. That is useful communication. With quantum entanglement when you want a dash, you have a certain probably that is never 100% to get a dash. Want a dot, you have a probability to get a dot, but it won't always be a dot. So no, you really really can't use quantum entanglement to transmit information faster than the speed of light. Transmitting information faster than the speed of light is not possible.
@SharmishthaBasu
@SharmishthaBasu 5 лет назад
Your videos are fascinating. Thanks for being easy to understand for people without science background
@TheLarsovic
@TheLarsovic 7 лет назад
Hi Spacetime, Thanks for a great show! I've been thinking for a while why we are so focused on the water already on mars and the lack of water on Mars in general. What would it take to build a "space elevator" on Ceres with a hydraulic system that pumps water into a container in space and then basically "shoot" water onto Mars when Mars and Ceres are closest to each other? Then we would not have to try and populate both planets but rather focus on building up sufficient bodies of water on Mars. Ideally the "ice canon" would just bombard Mars on a regular basis and the ice would end up in Mars atmosphere - assuming we get the angles just right - Is this a preposterous idea?
@Samsam-kl2lk
@Samsam-kl2lk 7 лет назад
still rooting for venus, Havoc seems just as possible as the Mars colonizasion project
@stevehuntcpa
@stevehuntcpa 7 лет назад
Please help me understand...Mars' atmosphere is 96% CO2 and almost no O2. The proposal mentioned in the video is that we "scrub" the atmosphere of CO2 and top it off with O2 that comes from the less-than-abundant H2O frozen on the surface. 1) Exactly how does that work? And 2) If it's not very hard to scrub the CO2 and replace it with O2 from H2O, why don't we do exactly that on our own planet (where H2O is 71% of earth's surface and where CO2 comprises a mere .04% of the atmosphere--and yet still threatens our very existence)? Also, if we can blanket the red planet with solar panels and create sufficient energy to build and power spinning cities...why are we struggling to get solar energy to spread and work effectively on earth? I feel like there must be some (feasibility? monetary?) challenges to this entire colonize Mars plan that are being overlooked. It seems like it should be much, much simpler to clean up earth's atmosphere and generate renewable energy on earth than to start a colony on Mars, where we ALSO have the challenges of cleaning up the atmosphere and generating energy, in addition to numerous other obstacles. Can you make a video on how we can use all this awesome Mars science and technology to completely clean up and reform earth in half the time it will take us to start a colony on Mars?
@insioni
@insioni 7 лет назад
man u nailed it. u freakn nailed it. some fail to realise, while we make tech for mars, earth will be dead. Yes we will learn lessons to improve our tech on earth, but what good when its already too late. they think science is pop bang. quick tech-gun shot and boom problem solved. It takes atleast 10-20 years for 'new tech' (which we apparently couldnt have found making it for earth #lol) from inception to widespread implementation, for uh, things that are not half baked. Even if we last (next 2-300 years), the rest of the species will be dead, not that much of it is left anyway.Space exploration is good. its great. But those times are past, or in the far future, not in the present.
@insioni
@insioni 7 лет назад
everyone in this comment section. read this guy's comment, and do yourself a favour.
@stevehuntcpa
@stevehuntcpa 7 лет назад
"The easiest plan to colonize another planet is a billion times harder than the hardest plan to clean up our own planet -- a planet that we are perfectly suited for." - my brother.
@RoberttheWise
@RoberttheWise 7 лет назад
Answers are quite simple: First you misunderstood the CO2 scrubbing proposal. The talk isn't about changing the whole martian atmosphere (as it would evaporate too quickly anyway due to Mars' low gravity and a lack of magnetic field) but about making atmosphere for the enclosed habitats. So you just take martian atmosphere, filter CO2 out, electrolyze water from martian ice to hydrogen and oxigen, mix the oxygen with the noble gases left from the martian atmosphere after removing CO2 to get a 20% oxygen mix, pump all of that into the habitat at one atmosphere pressure, jettison the H2 and CO2. Easy enough for a small habitat, a titanic task for the whole planet. So you don't bother with the planet. Then solar panels on earth: The problem is mainly the organized opposition to solar power from the conventional energy industry. They make it less feasible to have large profitable enterprises built around maintaining solar farms. It really comes down to this: How much does it cost to set up and maintain a solar farm + how much infrastructure has to be built and maintained to bring the solar power to households VS how much does it cost to mine fuel for conventional power plants, maintain the power plants, maintain the existing infrastructure and get rid of the waste. But not so fast: What of those costs is getting subsidized by various governments and what infrastructure builds are being blocked by local activists? And which lobby is pushing what subsidies and fueling which local activists? Yeah, solar power on earth is very much a socioeconomic and not a technological.
@stevehuntcpa
@stevehuntcpa 7 лет назад
Robert The Wise Thank you. So, I recognize there are reasons for colonizing Mars other than escaping the changing climate of our own planet. Still, climate change is one reason people have given for wanting to get off earth. (It's the most significant reason in the movie Interstellar.) If climate change became so dangerous and destructive that we couldn't "save earth" its present state, would you agree it would be easier to build these habitats on earth and create the Truman-show-like atmosphere and weather here, rather than on Mars? I think I can get behind your answer as to why solar panels don't work here but they might work to power Mars colonies... as long as socioeconomic factors don't come into play on that planet as well. Talk about a monopoly if there's only ONE way to make power there... if you move there, your utility bill might be YUUUUGE.
@GoldenKingStudio
@GoldenKingStudio 7 лет назад
I have been looking forward to the Venusian sky cites for so long! It is the coolest.
@JMyapiliscious
@JMyapiliscious 7 лет назад
90's - mars is dry af 10's - mars is wet af what a time to be alive!
@henriquejungles3996
@henriquejungles3996 7 лет назад
#OccupyVenus
@asthmen
@asthmen 7 лет назад
Henrique Jungles I agree, #OccupyVenus
@Demonetization_Symbol
@Demonetization_Symbol 7 лет назад
Henrique Jungles #StayonEarth
@TheGremlinsParadise
@TheGremlinsParadise 7 лет назад
with all the wars we create and such.. Not really a so called "resort" in any way. Also if we would colonise Mars how long would it take for us Humans to drop it into complete chaos starting to make war again ?
@yeahminecraft1627
@yeahminecraft1627 7 лет назад
dangit, got there before me :D
@michaelt3172
@michaelt3172 7 лет назад
Henrique Jungles no
@InqWiper
@InqWiper 7 лет назад
Why is loss of bone mass a problem on a planet you intend to stay on? Will the bone mass not be enough for the new gravity? Why is it better to launch a small craft several times with fuel rather than launching a larger craft once?
@failedfishermanBC
@failedfishermanBC 7 лет назад
Fuel and the tanks it's stored in also require extra energy to take into orbit.
@InqWiper
@InqWiper 7 лет назад
Gagan Baath Yes, I know. But does it take less energy to make 4 small launches than 1 big launch? Or does this have to do with it being cheaper to not spend the time to produce a large launch vehicle?
@failedfishermanBC
@failedfishermanBC 7 лет назад
InqWiper The on in orbit is gonna make the trip all the way out to Mars. So you want it to be small and light, right? And getting off the Earth's surface and into orbit requires *a lot* of fuel. So you don't want to have to design the first ship with a massive fuel tank. So instead you put a smaller fuel tank to get it into orbit, then when it gets up there you refuel it with another ship and send it on its way to Mars.
@InqWiper
@InqWiper 7 лет назад
Gagan Baath Why could you not have the fuel stages drop off from the main craft? I am getting the feeling you have not thought through my question or your answers properly, no offence.
@failedfishermanBC
@failedfishermanBC 7 лет назад
InqWiper Have you bothered to research it? It's a somewhat complex thing to think through. I've been reading about it for a long time so it's not something I'm coming up with on the spot. It can be summed up as "the more fuel you need to carry, the heavier your craft, which means more fuel you need to carry". So there is a limit to how big your craft can get. Test it out with physics, do some calculations, you'll see that I'm right.
@eterentreelos1587
@eterentreelos1587 7 лет назад
Mais um vídeo esclarecedor. Obrigado.
@prabhadsouza1931
@prabhadsouza1931 7 лет назад
During the journey, won't the crew be bombarded with radiation? Also will the crew survive strong solar flares or cosmic rays?
@felipelumo2705
@felipelumo2705 7 лет назад
Hey, I understood everything said in this episode ! Bravo me !
5 лет назад
Aprendiendo inglés?
@ashtrolling8888
@ashtrolling8888 7 лет назад
The ultimate question is: Will we be able to use internet on mars?
@aracelimoraellis2779
@aracelimoraellis2779 5 лет назад
😆 lol
@brianeastwood7754
@brianeastwood7754 5 лет назад
😈😈😈😬😬😬 😯😯Amen,
@AvailableUsernameTed
@AvailableUsernameTed 7 лет назад
That spinning city idea is cool. I guess a quick way to move about would be to step off onto the non-moving ground for a bit then step back on when your destination catches up to you.
@michaellehane4800
@michaellehane4800 7 лет назад
This was the most intellectual discussion on the mars topic I have seen! Good one man.
@TokyoTraveller
@TokyoTraveller 7 лет назад
If we could figure out a way to get there in 40 years, I say let's stop messing around and go to Proxima Centauri.
@odst1778
@odst1778 4 года назад
Well, Breakthrough Starhot will do that in 2060
@oraz.
@oraz. 7 лет назад
If the only way to survive on mars is to live in habitats that are isolated from the planet itself then what is the point? Being "on" Mars is really just a technicality at that point. You might as well just build a death star.
@PublicRecordsGeek
@PublicRecordsGeek 7 лет назад
orazdow Can't mine your Death Star for ice and materials. Mars you can.
@Dropbaud
@Dropbaud 7 лет назад
I can Imagine them building large domes in already existing craters, and making them into green spaces / farm area's.
@osimmac
@osimmac 7 лет назад
lol its just the beginning. once they start harvesting raw materials they will start refining them and building shit. the point is to back up the human race.
@justabitofjunkie2595
@justabitofjunkie2595 7 лет назад
Because then should the Earth be destroyed there will be still be humans left.
@radoslawszymula6560
@radoslawszymula6560 5 лет назад
to back up the human race and all its knowledge, which took about 4 billion years to develop.
@mozkitolife5437
@mozkitolife5437 7 лет назад
The Fermi "paradox" episode is related to our interstellar ventures. In order for other civilizations to develop space travel and survive on other planets they'll require close testing grounds. We have Mars. Factor in that requirement and other minutiae that impact probabilities and the likelihood of being visited drops even lower.
@Pentazimyn28
@Pentazimyn28 7 лет назад
In your last video, you discussed the possibility of "lumps" in spacetime that would exhibit massive gravity. since we already use planetary gravity (i.e. the Moon's) to "slingshot" our craft and give it enough acceleration to travel great distances, would it be feasible to use these "lumps" as sort of speed boosts and give humanity a means for far-reaching travel?
@TakenTooSeriously
@TakenTooSeriously 7 лет назад
[insert election joke]
@kriegofficergary6921
@kriegofficergary6921 7 лет назад
[Insert Triggered Joke]
@donrompenalgas1370
@donrompenalgas1370 7 лет назад
[Insert outdated Birdman joke]
@leshghett8956
@leshghett8956 7 лет назад
The election is a joke.
@svader9680
@svader9680 7 лет назад
For some odd reason I read this as "insert erection joke"...
@Krish-jm6ve
@Krish-jm6ve 7 лет назад
This mission is rigged !!!
@FerretGamer
@FerretGamer 7 лет назад
Imagine if the colonization of Mars ended up like the revolutionary war, only replacing America with Mars, England with Earth. Whatever country or private company that first colonized mars, starts taxing Mars. Mars then tries to separate themselves from Earth.
@RiceTofu
@RiceTofu 7 лет назад
you totally need to check out The Expanse
@JohnStephenWeck
@JohnStephenWeck 7 лет назад
Mars is not like an earth colony. The idea on earth was to make big profits by globally moving compact expensive items like drugs, spices, gold, etc. As far as I know, Mars has nothing of great value. Also, anything produced would have to eat the expense of getting out the martian gravity well, and back to earth, so the prices would be too high.
@libertyprime9307
@libertyprime9307 7 лет назад
And then overpower Earth and nuke it's future dictators. So we colonized Mars to have spare humans alive in case of nuclear holocaust, only to have them nuke us to death.
@MrTripcore
@MrTripcore 7 лет назад
Cool idea.. someone needs to make it into a movie :)
@shadowthehedgehog3113
@shadowthehedgehog3113 6 лет назад
Yeah good luck trying to bite off the hand that feeds you Mars. lol.
@kevinwood3211
@kevinwood3211 5 лет назад
Well explained Video keep up the Good Work Kevin. New Zealand.
@davidmcdaniel3671
@davidmcdaniel3671 6 лет назад
Whoa whoa energy isn't as simple as solar panels... I love how you sped over that, that's a huge issue because of dust storms that eclipse anything earth have ever seen. Martian dust storms can eclipse the entire planet for long periods at a time.
@bassisku
@bassisku 6 лет назад
Could you just exercise every day for an hour in a spinning building to get the bone building required?
@Jayc5001
@Jayc5001 6 лет назад
bassisku here's my thing why we even concerned about muscle and bone loss? We only need that level of muscle and bone for Earth, if we're living on Mars obviously we only need Mars level enough to keep us moving on Mars... the reason the bone loss and muscle loss even happens is because it's not being used, on Mars and we get rid of bone obviously because it's not needed we are adapting to our environment and its going to stop at the point where our current muscles are being used to the full.
@animistchannel2983
@animistchannel2983 6 лет назад
bassisku: You could just spin the home/sleeping quarters and get the g-force benefit during meals & sleep. Then you could work in the lower g to make the labor easier. Imagine a big turning cylinder building where you enter in the middle and then go "down"/sideways to your apartment. Another cool thing about mars .4g is because of the way plants circulate water, if you dig out or build a big enough dome, you can grow trees up to 250 meters tall with a canopy 50 meters wide, like a 75 story building :)
@lordgarion514
@lordgarion514 6 лет назад
jayc5000 You're only partially correct. It's true the bone mass wouldn't be missed much since everything weighs only .38 of what it weighs on Earth, and you fall down a lot slower as well. But bone loss also comes with other health problems and most likely we'd still have those problems on Mars as well.
@anthonybaransky137
@anthonybaransky137 4 года назад
No. Sorry it don't work.like that. We as humans adapt for the easier too quickly. Research the difficulty scientist have on adapting to earth's gravity upon returning from the I.S.S. They have a very difficult time recuperating. But they won't say anything about that and everybody returning has the same problems and some more than others
@eruno_
@eruno_ 7 лет назад
I would rather live on the Moon than on Mars.
@MouseGoat
@MouseGoat 7 лет назад
lol i had the centrifuge one mars idea for a long time now, was wondering if it was possible. and now i know it is. XD great!
7 лет назад
I think I know how to warm up Mars and protect it from radiation - cheaply: We need to put sufficiently large Fresnel lens in Lagrange L1 point to focus more light on part of Mars surface (or maybe poles). This lens may also have radiation protective layer so they will shield the planet.
@raveenadandona1413
@raveenadandona1413 7 лет назад
hey matt! great video as usual! But what about the 'ebullism effect' ? The body might start losing water and may develop nitrogen bubbles. Martians won't be able get out of their igloos, would they?
@linamiss8108
@linamiss8108 7 лет назад
what does it mean?
@raveenadandona1413
@raveenadandona1413 7 лет назад
Formation of nitrogen gas bubbles and consequent interference with organ functions are some of it's effects.
@raveenadandona1413
@raveenadandona1413 7 лет назад
Matt had mentioned this in one of his videos. The pressure on mars is extremely low due to which the boiling point of water reduces. This leads to the formation of nitrogen and oxygen bubbles in our body and can be fatal.
@linamiss8108
@linamiss8108 7 лет назад
what is that?
@linamiss8108
@linamiss8108 7 лет назад
why is my reply not visible?
@cherrydragon3120
@cherrydragon3120 7 лет назад
i think i like to stay on earth though o: i mean mars has lower gravity... wouldn't that mean people evolve to bigger people? to keep their mass high enough to stay on the ground i mean... or would we get lighter and develope more flexible skin and get wings and slowly turn into bat people to fly around.... would give a whole new meaning to "i'm batman!"
@johnrichie7199
@johnrichie7199 7 лет назад
Taller maybe, but not more massive. Still, the process would take millions of years if it occurred at all. As humans our intelligence and technology allows us to pretty much completely bypass evolutionary constraints.
@EnigmaGameMaster
@EnigmaGameMaster 7 лет назад
Not millions, just hundreds. Growing in height is something that can change after only a couple generations. Go back a few hundred years and you'll find that people were quite a bit smaller.
@johnrichie7199
@johnrichie7199 7 лет назад
Enigma that was due to nutrition, not evolution.
@stitchem7
@stitchem7 6 лет назад
The answer is Martian concrete, made from local materials and mixed with water to produce a solid material when cured and that could still be 3D printed with a special mixer/robot machine. Water ice by itself would evaporate over time as dust collects on it and is heated by the sun, requiring too much maintenance.
@granny1492
@granny1492 7 лет назад
Hey man, you're my hero!!!!! You help me with my 8th grade science and astronomy tests!!! And you're just really fun to watch!!!!!
@strofikornego9408
@strofikornego9408 7 лет назад
Shouldn't we start with inhabiting Siberia, Antarctica, Sahara desert and oceans?
@scs-yt
@scs-yt 7 лет назад
and how is that going to help if a disaster of planetary scale happens?
@calebhilton3686
@calebhilton3686 7 лет назад
Strofi Kornego I agree but wait on that until we have a second option to escape
@dosmastrify
@dosmastrify 7 лет назад
yeah baby seaQuest dsv
@adityakhanna113
@adityakhanna113 7 лет назад
+Suphi Sarigollu Well, if we really haven't succeeded in. completely inhabiting those places. Why do you think mars would be easier to?
@strofikornego9408
@strofikornego9408 7 лет назад
Suphi Sarigollu how Mars colony would help in the case of disaster of solar system scale happens?
@waswat
@waswat 7 лет назад
Wouldnt solar arrays also be subject to the same meteor showers we need a thick roof for on mars?
@Demour77
@Demour77 7 лет назад
Sssshhh, we need to create jobs for the martian people :P
@feynstein1004
@feynstein1004 7 лет назад
Perhaps shielded by a thick roof of glass then?
@TheCerinianAssassin
@TheCerinianAssassin 7 лет назад
Nah, you would just build a clear shield for the solar panels that allows them to still gather solar energy.
@feynstein1004
@feynstein1004 7 лет назад
TheCerinianAssassin That's what I said
@waswat
@waswat 7 лет назад
I'm not sure but wouldn't really thick glass like that affect the effectiveness of those solar panels?
@warren52nz
@warren52nz 7 лет назад
Being one of the first humans to inhabit Mars is a nightmare beyond comprehension for me.
@gillypuente1794
@gillypuente1794 7 лет назад
Particles are just excitations of their respective fields. So how does particle decay work? How can a field excitation result in 2 or more excitations in different fields? For example, a neutron decays into a proton, electron, and an electron type antineutrino. How does the decay of an excitation in the neutron field lead to excitations in the proton, electron, and electron type antineutrino fields?
@Draxis32
@Draxis32 7 лет назад
Ellon Musk is just trippin' he's more of a entrepreneur than a genius.
@iTracti0n
@iTracti0n 7 лет назад
Draxis32 I agree
@sophrapsune
@sophrapsune 7 лет назад
Draxis32 Show me the business case, Mr Musk.
@marcelloberry6829
@marcelloberry6829 4 года назад
It’s the year 2120 and there is currently 60 million people on Mars And a mission to Proxima B
@davidhutchinson8730
@davidhutchinson8730 4 года назад
I'll be a robust and young 153 years old bahahahaha
@MikeJones-rk1un
@MikeJones-rk1un 6 лет назад
Mars only needs a weekly reality show to make it feasible. It just needs a catchy name. Breaking Mars.
@BeddaMedia
@BeddaMedia 6 лет назад
Ich liebe diese Reihe, obwohl ich Österreicher bin und ich genug Drama wegen der Wahl bei uns habe. Ihr seit einfach qualitativ hochwertig und lustig, danke dafür, Quak
@JM-us3fr
@JM-us3fr 7 лет назад
Why not just wear weighted space suits that make you weigh your earth weight on mars? No need to build a giant spinning city. Is there something wrong with that?
@Dropbaud
@Dropbaud 7 лет назад
I wonder if Nasa did any studys on that.. I wonder if you did that here on earth if your bone density got any better..
@deathcrush9184
@deathcrush9184 7 лет назад
wouldnt we just adapt over time ya know like evolution lol
@Dropbaud
@Dropbaud 7 лет назад
Ya, we can only guess at taller and more slender.. Maybe new body functions to compensate for a low gravity enviroment.. We are actually lucky to be in earths gravity as it makes biology very easy to function.
@Noodler
@Noodler 7 лет назад
You can't rely on evolution to fix a problem that becomes pressing after a couple decades.
@Deus69xxx1
@Deus69xxx1 7 лет назад
problem with that: it's not weight. just putting on a 500 pound space suit isn't the same thing as the constant force of gravity affecting all of your cells. as far as adaptations go, humanity evolves very slowly. think of how long the changes have taken from homo erectus to nowish type of scale. now, if we were living thousands of years at a declining gravity level such that 10k years pass before gravity reaches mars level, that may work.
@allenreed9426
@allenreed9426 5 лет назад
The people who goes to mars should have to go to college 4 years weather it engineering, farming,science etc can't send just anybody they will want foodstamps
@lord6617
@lord6617 4 года назад
5:14 Could you get around the transparent roof issue by building structures with covered tops and open sides and delivering light via external mirrors?
@Sammy197
@Sammy197 7 лет назад
4:44 Are you literally going to scrub the CO2 or are you going to use it for something else? I feel that maybe you guys were missing a detailed explanation of how all the elements would be used up.
@danielsancarter
@danielsancarter 7 лет назад
Sammy197 ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20160005963.pdf if you want a really detailed explanation of in-situ resource utilisation and gathering I suggest this.
@PublicRecordsGeek
@PublicRecordsGeek 7 лет назад
Sammy197 copper as a catalyst on carbon nanospikes to make ethanol
@2stroke4me
@2stroke4me 7 лет назад
The human race, like any living thing on Earth, evolved with the presence of the Earth's magnetic field. Mars doesn't have a magnetic field, just the remains of what was once a magnetic field. I wonder, can human life surive without a magnetic field, and if so, are there going to be side effects (metabolism or neural dissorders). And why would we put so much effort in making Mars habitable. We are better off putting more effort in improving our own planet. Don't get me wrong, i love science and physics but this whole "let's make Mars habitable" seems like a trend to me.
@ajaykumarsingh702
@ajaykumarsingh702 7 лет назад
Exactly. I mean why not put whole attention to that Ozone hole over south pole. It must be a priority than Mars missions.
@calebpratt4268
@calebpratt4268 7 лет назад
This is less about Mars itself and more about proof of concept, If it is possible to colonize mars with limited help from earth then we could also colonize other planets, space stations, or other solar systems. any of these options would need to be almost fully self sustaining and any self sustaining tec would undoubtedly be useful for the home planet as well. Even if you are of the opinion that as long as we have earth we don't need another planet, we might not always have earth. All it would take is 1 crazy person launching a nuclear attack and the majority of Earth could become more inhospitable than Mars. North Korea is definetly making progress and even if we stop them before they make and use weapons of mass destruction, its not like uranium is hard to get being 500 times more common than gold. I agree that it would make more sense for us to take care of our planet but as long as big corporations can buy government policy. it is impossible to have a sustainable environment on Earth.
@saturn724
@saturn724 7 лет назад
I don't think the lack of magnetic field would cause huge health issues, the real issue is that Mars cannot be terraformed easily without a magnetic field, the atmosphere would be cooked by cosmic radiation and escape the planet's gravity
@ajaykumarsingh702
@ajaykumarsingh702 7 лет назад
The fact is that we don't need to colonize other planets as long as Earth is around. And Earth isn't going anywhere for at least a billion year. It's simply stupid to terraform an entire planet like Mars from scratch and wasting all of our precious limited resources. What we need is mining facilities on other planets and asteroids so that Earth will become more resourceful in terms of Mineral and precious ores. We need only working units in space, not colonization. No matter how bad we mess up Earth and pollute it, the Earth will still be better in terms of supporting life than any other ball of rock out in Space.
@MacZephyrZ
@MacZephyrZ 7 лет назад
And yet the human population continues to grow, and the more people we have down here, the more we mess it up. Space colonization might be our answer to overpopulation in the very distant future, even if its benefits aren't immediate today.
@djpeterabreu
@djpeterabreu 7 лет назад
my crush on the host is real
@infernocop1009
@infernocop1009 7 лет назад
good taste.
@djpeterabreu
@djpeterabreu 7 лет назад
he's smart and good looking, I can't help it
@fleecemanjenkins6648
@fleecemanjenkins6648 7 лет назад
He's pretty swole, no doubt I bet he's swole in other places, too ;)
@fleecemanjenkins6648
@fleecemanjenkins6648 7 лет назад
Fat Fox Sure thing, bro. NASA should use their obsolete Space Launch System to send your ass to Titan.
@fleecemanjenkins6648
@fleecemanjenkins6648 7 лет назад
Fat Fox No? How about the Sun? Nah, too flaming. How about Proxima Centauri? We could put you in orbit and have an array of 1 gigawatt lazers beam you over there at 10% the speed of light. Maybe you'll find some primitive Neanderthals on it's exoplanet that will actually buy into your dogmatic homophobia.
@markcarey8426
@markcarey8426 5 лет назад
Very good doco. But I recommend 'The Martian' (book) as it covers all of this and is a gripping read as well.
@matthewm.2572
@matthewm.2572 7 лет назад
Question I have been thinking about for awhile now: if the greater your velocity the more time slows down, then if you stop moving would time become infinite?
@Demonetization_Symbol
@Demonetization_Symbol 7 лет назад
WE CANNOT COLONIZE MARS WE MUST SAVE EARTH FIRST
@Demonetization_Symbol
@Demonetization_Symbol 7 лет назад
sorry 4 the caps lock
@Demonetization_Symbol
@Demonetization_Symbol 7 лет назад
but it's an important issue
@gustavbabic5004
@gustavbabic5004 7 лет назад
We can try and do both. Going to Mars will not negatively impact any efforts to save the Earth.
@insioni
@insioni 7 лет назад
whoa. i may have to stop you there. I am all for the advancement of tech and space exploration, but If you put the same money and label it as "lessons and technologies we develop for 'earth' are likely to fix problems on earth" it sounds wrong? if we do find something that can help something on earth, it is not because we did it for mars, but because we didnt put the money for it on earth or think creatively enough, which raises an issue, namely - governments for all their glory and simultaneously solving the world's problems as you say, are unfortunately not already doing enough to solve global warming/pollution.
@gustavbabic5004
@gustavbabic5004 7 лет назад
***** If the choice becomes "colonize mars and let earth go to shit" vs "Let the earth go to shit"... Actually we have more choices than just that, and there is no reason why we cannot go to Mars at the same time we work on fixing our problems on Earth.
@GVX32
@GVX32 7 лет назад
For the gravity issue: How about wearing a heavy tight suit? If the weight is distributed in a way that the joints carry the equivalent of what they would on earth gravity. Wouldn't that solve the issue? In fact, if a person do not plans to return to earth, the bone mass loss is actually an issue?
@ManintheArmor
@ManintheArmor 7 лет назад
For the gravity disparity issue, have people wear heavy clothes that increase their weight by 200%. This can double as protection against the hazards of the Martian surface, such as temperature dips and cosmic radiation.
@jalem1066
@jalem1066 7 лет назад
There are HUGE problems with colonizing Venus or Mars. The centrifuge city is a great idea for the gravity problems of Mars. Maybe we should just send nuclear-powered tunnel boring machines to asteroids and comets, create deep cities, start centrifugal force for gravity, colonize them, and then launch 'em to stars we think have Earth-like planets.
@samthestache8
@samthestache8 7 лет назад
Although rotating cities sounds cool, I personally don't find that to be rather feasible. Maybe a better way to solve the gravity issue would be elastic suits that introduce artificial resistance? For example, something elastic stretching between the feet and the hips to pull down of the leg or something like that.
@MrTigerlore
@MrTigerlore 6 лет назад
Dude that creates the first Martian pub will be the most loved man on that planet.
@whatwhatwhat480
@whatwhatwhat480 7 лет назад
We could somewhat easily hollow out caverns underground turning them into cities inside of mars that is capable of supporting life without spacesuits. Also allows us to investigate possible fossils that would be under the surface if there was ever life.. As well as studying the layers to see the true history of the planet. Wind turbine farms and solar panels.
@MatthiasDuyck
@MatthiasDuyck 7 лет назад
Just love how you say MAAAARS.
@zl1David
@zl1David 5 лет назад
If the mafia could track me down on Mars all I have to look out for would be an astronaut wielding a bat
@chadoftoons
@chadoftoons 6 лет назад
The most incredible part of this video is the fact that some people are discussing problems that only really exist when we make it if we do - we have advanced so far as a civilization that we don't even need to go to mars its enough to think we could do it
@mmlunacy
@mmlunacy 7 лет назад
There's a Kodi add-on for CuriousityStream. I have no clue how well it works though. I'll give it a shot later on today.
@Stirj
@Stirj 7 лет назад
Love watching your guy's videos!
@YassenTcholakov
@YassenTcholakov 7 лет назад
Concerning the discussion on bone density, I believe that most mars settlement missions discussed nowadays are meant to be one way trips, in which cases the loss of bone density is a trivial fact, indeed, for astronauts orbiting earth losing bone density is an issue because they then go back to earth where they are subject to earth's gravity, and subject to falling and breaking bones, whereas, for future martians, they would remain only subject to the martian gravity and might indeed not need to have as dense bones as we do here on earth.
@getoverhere1225
@getoverhere1225 5 лет назад
I believe because of lack of thick atmosphere and magnetic field colonies need to be underground to be sustainable.
@rekeshali
@rekeshali 7 лет назад
One of the issues with gravity is that it affects the pooling of blood within our bodies. Hanging weights off your body would not fix that
@wjohnson100
@wjohnson100 6 лет назад
Regarding windows and rotating habitats/space stations. Windows are totally unnecessary and perhaps even undesireable on spaceships and rotating habitats. The roof of a rotating habitat could be essentially a large video screen and have the same view as a window, but rotated with the habitat, thus preventing disorientation. This makes shielding easier too. Same applies to a space ship. Just screens and no windows and pick the view you want. We already do this with cars - cameras showing a rear view to aid parking.
@MelindaGreen
@MelindaGreen 7 лет назад
Glad you mentioned the galactic cosmic radiation problem and the implication that we'd need to live underground. It also means almost no driving around and exploring, but living underground for life. That plus the gravity issues tells me that the best place to live in space is to colonize the asteroid belt, mine the rocks, spin them up and live inside. All the resources we need are there and not being in a gravity well means it's a great staging area for exploring the rest of the solar system. Mars' main attractions are mainly romantic.
@JohnStephenWeck
@JohnStephenWeck 7 лет назад
You're right. However, most asteroids are unspinable because they are rubble piles. A better solution is to use rotating space habitats (space colonies) which give you the right gravity immediately. These habitats are not vehicles, so you can add any mass you need to protect from radiation.
@MelindaGreen
@MelindaGreen 7 лет назад
John Weck You may well be right about that.
@MrMario4president
@MrMario4president 7 лет назад
My idea for 3d printing habitats is using the co2 in the atmosphere. I thought (wait, there is "c" and "o2" in co2) resulted in me coming to an idea, split co2 into c and o2, the o2 used for breathing and the carbon used to make carbon fiber, which can be 3d printed into carbon fiber habitats AND more of spacex's mars vehicle to go to places beyond mars (the Interplanetary Transport System will be mostly made of carbon fiber).
@PhillMagGamerDad
@PhillMagGamerDad 5 лет назад
redstoneactive5, except that we can't split the C and O2 from each other without introducing a catalyst. And the catalyst then produces different byproducts. We are unable to just "split" the carbon and oxygen from each other without introducing something else into the equasion. If we could, global warming would not be an issue. Basic chemistry son
@user-xv9ni2jj7t
@user-xv9ni2jj7t 7 лет назад
Planing to make a model of "Marsian city", is there another physics stuff I should pay attention to not only to Centrifugal force, Super conductive magnetic rails stuff, created gravity from those rails, velocity. Does anyone know, what specific angle the "cities" on those rails has to be lean and what velocity?
@Killachow23
@Killachow23 7 лет назад
A simple alternative to the centrifuge would be to just have the colonists carry extra weight in the form of gear around with them during the day or designated work time to match their weight on earth.
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