The First Real Life Pictures EVER of Perfluorocubane 

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I legit thought this was a Ex&F video when I clicked xD

He needs more reptile lamps.

@@YounesLayachi Same lmao

He's almost there- just some 'yellow chem issues'

To be fair it is only marginally more energetically favourable than lithium metal

@@That_Chemist you've gotta give it to a perfluoroalkane that can accomplish that.

@@That_Chemist a space is more favourable for pure negativite charge than an element, let that sink in

Pimp my Orbitals

quantum physics

yeah its pretty wild!

So dangerous tho.

@@That_Chemist I wonder, if decarboxylation is easy on highly fluorinated acids, why didn’t they try something like Kochi decarboxylation-fluorination or some Hunsdiecker-type reaction ?

One would think that, considering fluorine's veryaggressive oxidising action, the cubane would literally combust, forming (I imagine) a mixture of soot (C), HF and perhaps some fluorocarbon compounds. So, it was not possible to fluorinate cubane directly. The successful method was ingenious and clever.

nuke it with f2, it's the only way to be sure.

The yields are familiar though

Glad you were able to find the channel :)

He doesn't even mention their names.

Uhhh... he did

Most scientists are nerds and are happy to share their stuff, all that gatekeeping by publishers is just sad. If i made some nice crystals or visually appealing stuff during research and someone contacts me about it, bet i'd share the cool stuff and nerd about it.

Absolutely

He hasn't even finished Cubane yet though?

@@WowUrFcknHxC No, the last time I was checking in, he was still stuck at the photochemistry stage (2nd or even 3rd video on that step already).

@@WowUrFcknHxC Nope, stuck in the photochemistry, he bought some uv leds and made a video making a set up with those in extractions & ire, it's been 3 months so pobably by now he must have atleast got an idea of what to do

@@VerbenaIDK he burned the UV leds to fucking tar because he has no damn clue what a milliampere is

Perfluoromengerane.

Sadly I don't think a Menger sponge cubane is possible.

@@petersmythe6462 yeah i dont see how you could do it with only four bonds per carbon. sierpinskis carpet on the other hand... (may also not work for other reasons im guessing)

You joke now, but imagine that, a real-life Menger sponge that fractals all the way down to the molecular level. That would be awesome.

I hope so, and I hope so

CUBIC CARBON ALLOTROPE

@@That_Chemist And if it can be polymerized, can it be 3D printed into a cube?

*DON'T BREATHE THIS*

@@auxchar CUBIC CUBANE

🤔🕸️🤔 Interdasting....

makes me wonder if a big crystal of this could be used for capacitance mechanisms...

Exactly!

it would annihilate with an electron from the molecule

@@That_Chemist anti*proton*

@@That_Chemist an antiproton would only be able to annihilate with a proton or neutron, no reaction with electrons

Yes, an antiproton with a negative charge would repel a negatively charged electron

@@TheBackyardChemist there is a reaction actually Electric repulsion bc they're both negative, so they wouldn't even touch without a particle accelerator to force them together But I do imagine that it would need extremely stable matter so we don't have stray alpha particles and neutrons Maybe a few neutrons are impossible to prevent and instead of that leading to a failure of containment it could just mean that the fuel gets depleted by itself with time(idk what the N(3q)+₱(3(5?)q)(or P+₱) annihilation would do to the chemical bonds holding it together at that distance, maybe it's stable, maybe it causes a chain reaction that annihilates everything till there's only an electronic plasma of atomless free electrons(??) and photons, probably more likely to break everything whilst exploding till there's nothing but tar left from all the different compounds made by having the molecules physically ripped apart(or would the energy need to specifically affect the electrons in the outer layer for that?) Anyway, I have no answers, just more questions and a lot of speculations I guess we'll keep on having no answer till someone at CERN or other antimatter producing facility has the idea to use it like that and tests it Imagine it ends up producing strange matter But if it works I think it'd be like a semi-conductor? I can imagine ways to make it useful by accelerating it parallel(I'd say perpendicular but ⅔of the faces are parallel) to the faces of the cubane into a diode-like valve (not tesla) against ionic hydrogen that'd be naturally accelerated against it in the same electric field and extracting the energy somehow(maybe like they do it in tokamaks for normal fusion, or simply thermonuclear-like) Can't think of an antimatter propulsion system tho(and I'm pretty sure I just watched smth in depth about it like yesterday, but I can't remember a thing) But nuclear anti-fusion seems trivial enough, so it'd be antimatter fueled if the energy is applied to an ionic propulsion rocket engine(which thank God I don't know how they work, else I'd be having even more ideas about it) What I'm saying is that it would be dumb and extremely dangerous, but extremely powerful and useful But again, dangerous on so many levels, specially if it DOES work.

Thank you kindly!

I hope so! I would love to see a polymer of cubanes or hypercubanes

Ah heck no not the rubik's cubane

@@aloysiuskurnia7643 🤣🤣🤣

Hypercubane with a 4D rotating core. Makes the flask float and is prone to spontaneously disappearing and reappearing later in different locations. Really hard to store!

The great wall of cubane

same - imagine the bling!

Probably, but it would just be a solid

@@That_Chemist Thank you for the reply! Well, there goes that zillion-dollar idea.

@@tomkerruish2982 there are solid lubricants. Graphite comes to mind.

@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Yes, I suppose it's a question of how solid a solid it is... which is a matter far beyond my meager chemical knowledge to intuit.

@@tomkerruish2982 yeah, mine too.

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Thanks!

Yeah you experiment with it for a while and it suddenly disappears

yea how is it 1,4 when they're on complete opposite vertices of the cube?? And then there's those carboranes that look like the dice from dungeons and dragons...how would substituents on those work???

They're numbered so that you can walk around the cube in a loop and come back to where you started. 1 and 4 are opposites on an eight membered ring.

Thank you!

It’s an oversimplification, but sort of it does

Glad you liked it :)

I wish bond strain didn't get in the way of octahedrane existing for long

lmao

The ultimate dragon ball

Agreed

I hope they make it into the next gemstone

Table salt might blow your mind.

make sure you share it!

Maybe with an appropriate Lewis acid

Octaazidocubane, for when you really don't want the cube to exist.

I don't think so. SN2 shouldn't be possible and the energy barrier for SN1 would be incredible high because how unstable that resulting carbon cation would be (and F- isn't a good leaving group).

Glad you enjoyed it!

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