I don't take any of these comments by Lou seriously.I don't think Lou took himself seriously.He took his work seriously though,and I love it all.R.I.P. Lou.👏👏👏👏
Lou Reed hated himself more than any of these musicians & bands& HE WAS RIGHT. I know a lot of people who knew him& they all agree he was a miserable person to the very end.
I had a friend in HS in the early 70's who was very excited to see Lou Reed live. Lou came out and couldn't stand he was so drunk. He sat on the stage edge and just mumbled.
I have to admit to being sick to death of them I never wish to hear them again in my life having Livepudlian parents(who me the band twice and some members alone),having been in 3 Beatles tribute bands( one ruthless scene that is the worst) but even I a longtime songwriter will never say they were rubbish ever!
A lot of those old interviews with various musicians had them trashing each other for fun, and winking after they tried their latest put-down lines. Actually, they respected each other as musicians. As you say in the beginning of this video, endless strings of interviews became like a game.
Yep. I remember being at a Tull concert where Anderson was trashing the Stones. Obviously with a wink and a nod so subtle no one really got it. In reality, Ian said the Stones, Zeppelin, and Mountain were his fave bands.
Lou Reed was just a crank who got easily annoyed, sometimes with his own fans. Hell sometimes with his own creations. But I’d say there were some musicians from that time who genuinely didn’t like each other, or didn’t respect some other’s musicianship.
Yeah, also sometimes with these 'aggro' interviews what we never see is the (oftentimes) annoying, self regarding journalist asking all the questions, (they always write themselves out of the situations they report on. Becoming invisible in the narrative to the readers) - Sometimes I think the guy being interviewed is just ripping a band / whatever because they know the reporter is a smug fanboy of 'em, so it's a FU manoeuvre at them.
I remember seeing Lou Reed standing in the wings at the Apollo in Glasgow (1978) when Bowie made his 'comeback' after he supposedly retired when 'The Spiders from Mars' broke-up - and by the looks of it, he enjoyed himself just as much as the audience enjoyed it!. It WAS a superb concert !
No way.. Warhol had total control of the interview. Lou reed was always stressed out unless the interviewer was another musician or artist of some sort. His attitude was influenced by his stress level. Reed felt powerless with reporters because they burned him in sth 1960s so his stress level ruined him with them when they were friendly with him and had better intentions. Warhol's genius might have really just been how he talked to the press. His art was never as good as his p.r. abilities. Reed was always a mess.
@@gretagarbeige Not an insult just a probable cause of his extremely strange behaviour. Is being "Low" now an insult ? David Bowie was "Low" in fact, so much so that he named an album after it. Have a nice day.
Reed was simply insecure and jealous of other artists whom he felt were competition for him, artists who had ambition to do more than 2 minute pop ditties, as he saw himself as "the artist" of pop music. Reed wrote a handful of good songs, but overall I found nothing of interest in his work. (I was not a big fan of Zappa, actually, but he certainly produced work of greater ambition and accomplishment than most of Reed's output.)
@@kevinjoseph517 Nihilist? Sarcastic? Certainly! And more, if you dig through his body of work. I was never captivated by him, so I have not heard most of his output.
I absolutely love most Lou Reed's solo albums, and his nasty lyrics, but compared to everyone who he trolled, I do think he had somewhat of an issue creating "concept" albums outside the theme of "street politics".
lol “jealous” is the weakest defense when someone gives an honest opinion. Especially when Lou is arguably better than all these people. I personally think he is.
Hands down without a doubt. Those first 4 records especially are pure innovation, musical prowess, humor, style & magic. Also that he called Zappa "untalented" is a bit much. To say the same about Pete Townsend is just beyond the pale.
Anyone can bash more popular bands. Keep in mind this is when everyone had chops and were pushing boundaries. These weren’t “pretty” kids and auto tune. They were all real musicians. Not liking the Beatles is just silliness and being petty. I’m not a fan of the Doors but they had their place. Bashing The Who and Townsend? I guess if you are going to be a jerk you might as well aim high.
Miserable Lou seems like he was jealous of anybody who was more popular, successful or respected than him; which was a lot of people we consider greats.
What I'm curious about is Lou's opinion on Marc Bolan and T. Rex. Bolan and Reed occupied some of the same ground musically, both were Jewish, and they even somewhat resembled each other physically. There are photos of Bolan at around 20 or 21 where he could pass for Lou. It's hard to imagine Lou NOT being impressed by "Bang a Gong."
"Both were Jewish" Funny how nobody will call you antisemitic for saying that, but if you were to say the same about Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein, Mark Zuckerberg, Vladimir Lenin, or Karl Marx for example then somehow that's different...
@@user-ei9ns9hq6b Ah, as Dave Chappelle said in his SNL monologue: "....ah, but when it's a group of "insert their name" it's just a coincidence." We're only allowed to refer to them collectively in the positive, all while they can negatively collectivize every other damn group, and especially Whites. We need to end that shit ASAP.
I am a huge fan of Lou's solo and the Velvets music. I am also a a huge Zappa fan. Seen both of them live a handful of times each. I don't care for the Beatles, went through my Who phaze. At the end of the day, who the hell cares what Lou likes or dislikes. Think for yourself! If you like a band cool, if you don't, cool again. If anyone remembers the old magazine articles back in the day they did this "I don't like this band" shit all the time. Jerry Garcia, supposedly hated the Doors. Aerosmith disliked Queen. At the end of the day all this "I like this band, I hate this band" was just bullshit to sell magazines. By the way, I like Captain Beefheart and hate the Ramones.
@@RMTmusic1-mv1jh Keith Moon taught Joe Walsh how to party like a rockstar, who in turn taught the comedian, John Belushi, how to party to such an extreme.
I can't really dislike Lou. Transformers is one of those albums that doesn't have a single bad song. David Bowie saw a lot of talent in Lou and wanted to help him. That's why he produced Transformer. Along with Mick Ronson. Imagine if it had produced Lou's entire career. It would be impressive.
I think Lou is trolling, a lot of these responses were to idiot reporters, he was likely intoxicated at times, although some of these statements had truth in them
Yeah, also sometimes with these 'aggro' interviews what we never see is the (oftentimes) annoying, self regarding journalist asking all the questions, (they always write themselves out of the situations they report on. Becoming invisible in the narrative to the readers) - Sometimes I think the guy being interviewed is just ripping a band / whatever because they know the reporter is a smug fanboy of 'em, so it's a FU manoeuvre at them.
Any artist who calls the Beatles garbage,ain't much to think about, I heard this guy's name , maybe one song or 2 , Frank Zappa was a genius, this dude was a hypocrite, it ain't like he wrote the best stuff.
We're all entitled to our opinion and I respect yours, but let's face it, if someone judges The Beatles on their worst work or by the bulk of their solo careers they won't be deeply impressed. So unless you've heard Reed's best work from his professional prime, you may very well not be in a position to judge his merit. I don't mean to come across as hostile, though.
This is an awful video: 1) Zappa was responsible for delaying The Velvets' first album' release from the spring of '66 to October '67: he pestered Verve (both The Velvets and The Mothers Of Invention were on Verve Records) not to promote The Velvets because they had Andy Warhol, among other things. 2) Reed once played Lennon's Mother and there are Velvets' bootlegs where they play Day Tripper. 3) Reed played an acoustic show with just Pete Townshend a few years before passing. 4) Reed disliked The Doors simply because Nico liked Jim Morrison of whom he was jealous (Nico told me). 5) At one point in 1974 there was talk about The Velvets re-uniting with John Cale, Nico & Roxy Music's Brian Eno who was a huge Velvet Underground fan. The people who make these videos don't know what they're talking about; I bet this guy wasn't even around in the 1970s... 🙄
Lou was the opposite of based. He, and his ilk, are exactly how we got to all this woke shit. Bar non. He was a radical lefty smallhat, which is another term for shit.
Cant say i agree with his take on some of the bands esp.the doors but reed was definitely not an overrated hack.the velvet underground were unique and way ahead of their time in my book.
most of his problems were jealousy. Zappa and him were rivals .. their personalities clashed because they were both wrong men? He obviously hates the people he loves.
He definitely had a few cracks in his soul. That made it all so much sweeter ,when he said or did something kind or loving . But in real life that's enabling abuse of your fans and your loved ones ... He seriously needed to be kicked to the curb for his issues . He was a genius, with a shitty attitude .
The video said that. 'Eponymous' basically means self titled [referring to his first solo record]; it also said 'Transformer' was the more successful follow-up. ;o)
If he based his entire view of The Who on Tommy, okay, whatever. But he was wrong about them. Pete Townshend is one of the best songwriters in Rock history, and his post-Tommy stuff speaks for itself.
You are right Lou couldn't hold a candle to Townsend who was an excellent rhythm guitarist and just an average Lead player BUT man he write them NO doubt at all and yes they were amazing live in their prime!
Reed's take on the Doors was off base. The Doors made perhaps the darkest trippiest music of the era. They didn't have that bubblegum pop sound that many of their peers did and bands like the Byrds criticised them for that. So they didn't really fit in with the other bands of the era or that whole hippy movement so much. Maybe Reed was just jealous they were able to achieve a much more macabre, grittier vibe than the Velvets could. Not to mention Morrison's prowess as poet far exceeded Reed's poetic aspirations so there was that to contend with as well. And I say this as someone who still listens to both bands.
@@nickpagano7134 Well, the reason that I don't like the Doors is because I feel like they are very boring and mainstream; Their music sounds good but it lacks substance.
The Doors were making darker and more trippy music than White Light White Heat. Not nearly.Jim Morrison more poetry and Lou Reed more like prose, both some of the best. Agree that Lou was jealous. Morrison was was more of a dynamic performer. I am a huge fan of both bands.
way back in the 80s a couple buddies and myself were casting for a singer for a New Wave band..... I recall more then one came in and when asked who they sounded like they said (more then one said this LOL) I don't know, maybe Lou Reed.....Oh?.....you can't sing at all is what you are saying.... ? The fact is, Lou Reed would have to practice to have a voice for rap.... LOL
01:40 Reed can't say that Zappa liked ("admired") him without Zappa's permission. The story gets funny from the beginning. 02:25 Oh, question: What did Lou Reed do that was other than "Sweet Jane"?
It's funny , but Frank Zappa and Reed are my two Favourite artists , but Frank , was a Genius, The greatest composer of the 20th century , and Lou , the Poet , VALE Lou VALE FRANK . R
Lou was just trolling at least in the case of Roxy Music and Frank Zappa. Didn't he do a great eoulogy or HOF induction for FZ? edit: yeah 1995 R&R HOF FZ induction.
No one gets press when they're sweet as cherry pie, Lou got each one of these acts attention. Even today it still sparks conversation. That said I kinda get sick of seeing contrived YT posts that amplify hate that really never was. The Beatles and Doors wrote about the exact same topic as Lou, The Beats and their art. Bowie is no slouch when it comes to reflecting the Beats art back to us either. It must be hard for those in the UK to understand the American Beat Literary Movement. Just guessing and assuming.
Yes! This piece of trash video is simply for clickbait. That's why this slug has only 2.2K subs and only 28 comments after more than 3 months. He probably wasn't even in the scene in this time! Video/uploader gets a big 👎!
I respect how hard he worked, the rep he made for himself. I can't stand any of his music. And I am grateful I never had to endure his presumptuous presence.
Sometimes with these 'aggro' interviews what we never see is the (oftentimes) annoying, self regarding journalist asking all the questions, (they always write themselves out of the situations they report on.) - Sometimes I think the person being interviewed is just ripping a band / whatever because they know the reporter is a smug fanboy of 'em, so it's a FU manoeuvre at them.
It makes me 💢 sort of disappointed that Lou says such things... 🌬️ because it probably is a sign of jealousy... You have to be pretentious to accuse so many original major artists to be... pretentious 😮 or rubbish.. There are enough second grade artists that are praised... Why destroy the good ones?😁
Roxy Music: had only 1 good album. Frank Zappa: i agree on his 70's era thoughts on him. *The Doors: i disagree with him they were very California like Lou was very NY.* The Beatles: suck a doodle dandy. Lennon beat both wives, McFartney is an annoying vegan, Ringo is a horrible drummer, Harrison worshiped a cult leader, lol *The Who: i disagree with him, but i never liked The Who's concept albums (Tommy & Quadrophenia)*
He doesn't like The Who? That sucks. I like The Who WAY more than I like VU. But I guess I have to be respectful since this is Lou Reed's video. Plus Rock and Roll is one of my all-time favorite songs. And why is Pete Townsend philosophically boring, wtf is that supposed that mean? You mean he can't actually see for miles and miles? I'm just going to pretend I didn't hear that....
if you don't like The Who you don't like R& R. I've had people tell me they don't like Dylan, The Beatles or Elvis Costello. That tells me the person has no taste whatsoever.
i think i heard him say he really likes the who in an interview from the 80s. I think he said they where the only good British band or something like that. He does say alot of things out of spite but i think that maybe he got alot more musically open as he got older. Obviously he was a contrarian too
3:19 When I was younger, I made a comment on a Mogwai video saying that I didn't like Jim Morrison or The Doors too much, and I got a lot of flak for it. Now, I feel vindicated.
@@99tonnes It is, certainly, one factor but perhaps more important is that most people and critics would agree that, from a talent point of view, Reed wasn't qualified to carry their sheet music.
He was hyper promoted due to the nepotism of his people. Same with Ginsberg, Leonard Cohen, Amy Schumer, Sarah Silverman, etc. All of them were/are mediocre to slightly above. None of them deserved the fame they got/get.
Vicious Lou hit groups with a flower Lou do it every hour Oh, baby, Lou's so vicious Vicious Lou wanted to hit groups with a schtick But all he's got's a guitar pick Huh, baby, Lou's so vicious
He went on stage with Tom Petty , Jeff Lynne , and Eric Clapton and Bob Dylan and afterwards he said I cringed at first but I actually had fun with them.
the zappa thing was probably due to the verve records rivalry and verve's choosing to promote one over the other... just a guess at the root of that one, but obv lou was bitchy and tongue in cheek to great extents...
I understand fury to Zappa, Zappa himself was really pretentious…, I get why hate the Beatles, they’re so popular it’s distasteful, BUT HATING ENO ERA ROXY MUSIC is just beyond my comprehension.
I don't dislike the Velvets, but it's musically inferior to the bands it criticizes. Lou Reed has only two satisfactory albums. Transformer and New York. He was a pretentious and frustrated individual.
This guy at some point seems to have hated everybody. Especially people far more talented than him. The Doors were much more musically adventurous than the Velvet Underground.
I'm known a bit but not famous and been writing songs for 40 years. I know my stuff(on my other YT channel).I can say Lou Reed is the single most overrated musician if you can call him that in all of Alt Rock. He was more a spoken word poet ,he can't sing in key or hold a decent note, can barely strum more than a G, C ,and D and can't even speak/sing in time ,had a minimal amount of talent a person can have. He was known as one arrogant SOB and million of you fell for it.
Cale should have been co-credited for the music, selfish Reed would have none of that. He wanted everybody to believe the Velvets was entirely his doing. When I got into the Velvets in the early 80s, I got Transformer and Street Hassle. They were ok, but seemingly there was something lacking. Shortly after, Cale released his Honi Soit lp in 1981 and I was lucky to randomly hear him on the radio (when ever do they play John Cale on the radio?). I was impressed, so the next day I got the album and quickly updated on his back catalogue and have practically everything he has ever recorded. And Lou Reed? Never looked back...
Zappa’s music is horrible. But at least he documented his be of the most important albums in music history: Trout Mask Replica. Smart guy too, it’s a shame his music sucked.
