The FIVE Reasons we CHOOSE and PLAN Lives on Earth! 

This remains one of the greatest puzzles of creation: Why should souls , created in the image of Light and Love have to undergo and choose to undergo this nightmare on Earth and other lower planets? To grow and evolve or even develop into what we already are? Something is not adding up correctly here. And to add to the trauma , any mistake that is made incurs a whole ton of bad karma. Our backs are truly against the wall and the odds are not in our favor.

I've been bingeing all her videos and this guy is definitely one of my favorites. Everything he says resonates with me. Also, he looks like Stuart from MADtv

"Unconditional Love" can not be defined. "Unconditional Love can only be EXPERIENCED. Rob, Thank you so much for all the beautiful examples about your message. I'm looking forward to visiting your website and purchasing your books to learn even more. Melissa, thank you for being such a gracious host. Your energy of Love magnetically always pulls me back to your channel. - Wayne

OMG!!! AMAZING we ALL need to HEAR THIS all the time!! We have to trust!!! That WE ARE POWERFUL like he said!!! ❤

So grateful for having listened to this! As someone who has struggled with a heroin addiction for 18 years and who's Mom crossed over at an "early" age, this helped bring clarity and understanding. 🙏

I've also had moments of fear and wondered about deception by the higher beings. Are they just trapping us and using us for evil purposes? Then it struck me that this fear is based in growing up with a narcissistic mother.. It's been extremely hard to trust that Love exists, but after years of meditation and inner work, I'm now much more grounded in a gracious Love. When I realized the soul chooses certain lessons to learn on this earth plane, it was a game changer.

Very interesting. There's something I don't quite understand though. Why would souls need to come back into body to heal things like false beliefs acquired during prior incarnations, when said beliefs must logically dissipate completely as soon as those souls return to the spiritual realm, which is a realm of pure love and knowledge ? Aren't those false beliefs as temporary as the characters we play during our incarnations anyway ?

I'm incredibly happy to see and listen to Rob again. If he only knew how instrumental he was with not only myself but also my husband after our son was murdered. He gave us both the "light bulb" moment we so badly needed. I never miss a chance to listen to Rob. Thanks Mel for having him on. There's not one time that I listen to him without tears in my eyes. It truly resonates with me so well. Edit: I see I missed his last workshop in April, so when is the next one so I can put it on my calendar and sign up. Again, thank you both Rob and Mel.

"Your vibration is far more important and helpful and healing and impactful and powerful and healing than any action you can take with your physical body." Thats really where everybodys power lies. It doesn't lie on the phycial plane.

Mel, you did such a good job facilitating this interview. Great questions.

Rob Schwartz is a legend! Thank You So Much for sharing!!! ❤

Major synchronicity moment here. I have been anxious about this prison planet conspiracy. I learned about this 10 years ago before it became common in the community and I wrote it off as fear mongering. But lately I’ve seen a ton of content about it to the point where I’ve been rethinking my position. Today I woke up feeling very uncomfortable and unsure about my purpose, then I found this video to listen to as I get read for work. And then my message came through- validation that it IS just fear mongering. Thank you guys!! This entire conversation as perfect!

I cane across Robs work along with his books years ago which was extremely helpful in understanding why we choose what we do in our prebirth planning which automatically helps us to Forgive beginning with SELF

This guy makes sense.

I wonder why we need to learn how to give and receive love more fully if we ARE love on a soul level? That contradiction never makes sense to me, especially when so many people are subjected in this life to unutterably horrible trauma.

Robert Monroe, a business man who learned to control the out-of-body experiences that started to happen to him spontaneously, provided another possible explanation about why souls are attracted to life on earth without understanding its unique qualities that include mortality. He wrote three books about his own transition from ignorance to remembering in the classic Journeys Out of the Body, Far Journey and Ultimate Journey. The books become increasingly challenging to understand as Monroe coins his own vocabulary for non-physical experiences, so reading can take patience after reading the first book, which is written in a matter-of-fact, reporter's understated style. He said that souls can "tour" the universe (or universes?). And that the energy around earth is interesting and different than that of other places. From our outside perspective, the energy here is vibrant, chaotic and unusual and it provokes curiosity. So souls become curious and want to investigate, but they have no previous experience that prepares them for this system, which is perpetuated by predation and mortality, with the painful struggles that go along with that inevitable process. He says that before choosing a physical life, souls are given an overview, or warning about what it means to be physical, but sometimes they don't understand or appreciate the warning. So they dive into a lifetime without any planning, just based on the impulse of their curiosity. With no previous experience, how can we know what we're getting into? Then the soul may become imprinted on both the pain and the pleasure of physical life, and seeks it again and again, until the soul actually forgets that it was ever anything but an earth-focused being. The pleasures and sensations become an addiction, and without self-reflection, souls dive into one life after another. It can then take something major, like an NDE or other spiritually transformative experience to jog our experience back to the original state of nonphysical union. He also says that aside from curiosity, souls may come here to search for a "friend" or companion soul who was attracted to earth life and then became addicted. So the outside soul "friend" comes to earth themselves, to track down their friend. And then they too may become addicted and forget why they came. The other category is a soul who was "sent" here, because their own creative energy is too destructive in the thought-responsive, non-physical state where we originate, and these souls need to be "slowed down", because events on earth may take longer to develop and unfold according to the soul's wishes, and so that soul has to learn to control their thoughts and impulses in a more constructive and thoughtful manner, or they get into serious trouble. I'm sure we can think of people who have trouble controlling their impulses who lurch from one disaster to another because they don't seem to learn to control those impulses until things get very bad indeed. As for why mortality and predation exist, Monroe says that the emotions generated by the struggle to survive, and by the knowledge of mortality, are of great value "by someone, somewhere" else, away from earth. That these emotions, especially love, are rare in all of existence, and that the earth system is specifically designed to produce a renewable supply. So in a way, a soul could feel tricked into coming here, if they had no sense of their own free will in choosing to be here and choosing to keep reincarnating. This is the only existential explanation I've ever read that makes any sense. I recommend that people read his books and also investigate The Monroe Institute, which teaches people how to induce out-of-body experiences, lucid dreams and other spiritually transformative experiences.

❤❤❤❤ So grateful to you both.

Every day I resent more and more coming to this hell... but who knows, maybe from a higher perspective it makes sense. IDK.

I am greatfull for this discussion. Thank you! ✌️

Thank you! ❤

I always enjoy Robert’s insight on these spiritual/soul topics. Most of it chimes with what I’ve come to understand from my higher self and guides. However, I will disagree on the karma. Releasing/balancing and or accumulating karma is something that we’ve created in our human perceptions. You don’t choose a life of extreme contrast (playing the “villain”) and then also shoulder the burden of the karma that comes along with it. Even for the human mind, that’s very counterintuitive. We come to experience and expand through the perception of contrast. That’s it. We’re not releasing balancing, or working out any type of karma from our behavior. It’s true that the soul may choose to come back in order to complete some thing it didn’t get to complete in the previous life. If you want to call that karma, then yes. However, it’s not mandatory and it’s simply something the Soul decides it wants to experience. Not to release or balance anything. Otherwise, could you imagine the endless cycle of balancing and releasing after 100 lives?

REALLY enjoyed this conversation! Thank you Mel & Rob - very expansive & calming!

Thank you, Mel. I always look forward to your uploads. You have such a lovely energy and you always get the best out of your guests. Much love. X

Rob's books are great! Very healing.

Thank you so very much for this beautiful, uplifting, affirming talk. Just love it🙏❤️

A very uplifting and beautiful conversation!

Melissa, I am so happy to have found your RU-vid channel. You interview so well, your calm and clear communication is so easy to listen to. Love your hair too. He is absolutely brilliant and speaks wonderfully. Top notch!❤

Such an interesting discussion. Thank-you!

Beautiful conversation. You both have such a calming energy and I loved the questions ypu asked Rob. It makes me so happy to see RU-vid channels like yours , I've held an inner "knowing" for many years that I chose my severely abusive mother and the reason was to learn forgiveness and empathy, howver, it wasnt until she passed away a month ago, that I was truly able to forgive her. I had a vision of her while free driving in Maui hearing the singing of the whales I felt an intense sense of love and sadness and i kissed her cheek and she floated away. ❤. I am finally feeling worthy of receiving love, which has been a life long struggle. Hugs to all who see this comment, you are loved❤

its so absolutely incredible how my own thoughts from my heart match up with every other person who has found truth. I was thinking and talking with my friend about how the end underlying goal is to experience and be God to other(love)

I am in this world to endure , experience harsh reality,overcome everything my ego tries to trick me with, and ultimately realize suffering is absolutely mine to control!

This was AWESOME! Thank you ❤❤❤ for sharing!

This was an amazing AMAZING episode!!! 100/10! I appreciate his honesty & the information he has relayed.

Thanks Mel! Love Rob and his work! ❤

His steps for releasing the stuff that comes up matches my own experiences.. he is on point. Great video

Thank you!

This wisdom is so refreshing because its true! Posted

Outstanding! Ty

The challenging part of this world is its most valuable. Trees grow stronger by weathering the winds and storms. Our bones grow strong by virtue of gravity. Athletes build muscles by lifting weights, not by lying in bed all day. We are eternal spiritual beings. We enjoy the challenges from our higher self’s perspective. Why do people enjoy stories/movies of overcoming the odds as opposed to the few who enjoy poetry?

So good….thank you!🙏💜

Excellent. Mel you ask such great questions. thank you, I am the light. Blessings

Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for this✨💞

Very interesting discussion. Thank you Rob and Melissa.

From 28:00 mins on up is exactly what I needed information on and I finally found it out thank you guys for the insight

Love your work Melissa. ❤

Fabulous interview. Thank you.

Rob, a man who changed my thinking BIG TIME> Bless you, buddy.

Nice one thanks!

In one person’s NDE, they were shown that autistic people were not in their bodies all the way. They’re part in this world and part on the other side of the veil. That makes sense to me, as an autistic/adhd person. I think something similar is the case with adhd’ers. Like maybe the have better access/they can tune into universal knowledge

❤thank you for this wonderful guest,❤️🌞

Fascinating.

I really enjoyed this interview many thanks 🙏🏻 you got yourself a new subscriber

I have all his books and they are awesome!

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love this!

Girl, I'd love to sit & talk to you! Thanks for this site!

Love this ❤️

I've often thought this world is upside down. Often it's the more evolved souls that take on the daftest challanges.

PART 1 There once was a soul who knew itself to be the light. This was a new soul and so, anxious for experience. "I am the light" it said. "I am the light" Yet all the knowing of it and all the saying of it, could not substitute for the experience of it. And in the realm from which this soul emerged, there was nothing but the light. Every soul was grand and every soul was magnificent and every soul shone with the brilliance of God's awesome light. So the little soul was as a candle in the sun. In the midst of the grandest light, of which it was part, it could not see itself, nor experience itself as Who and What it really is. Now it came to pass that this soul yearned and yearned to know itself. So great was it's yearning that God one day said, "Do you know little one, what you must do to satisfy this yearning of yours?" "Oh, what, God? What? I'll do anything!" the little soul said. "You must separate yourself from the rest of us" God answered, "and then you must call upon yourself the darkness" "What is the darkness, o Holy One?" the little soul asked. "That which you are not" God replied and the soul understood. And so this the soul did, removing itself from the ' All ' going even unto another realm. And in this realm the soul had the power to call into it's experience all sorts of darkness. And this it did. Yet in the midst of all the darkness did it cry out, "Father, Father, why hast thou forsaken me?" God replied: "Even has have you, in your blackest times. Yet I have never forsaken you, but stand by you always, ready to remind you of Who You Really Are; ready always ready, to call you home. Therefore be a light unto the darkness and curse it not. And forget not who you are in the moment of your encirclement by that which you are not. But do praise to the creation even as you seek to change it. And know that what you do in the time of your greatest trial can be your greatest triumph. For the experience you create is a statement of Who You Are - and Who You Want to Be. Part 2 God said to the little soul, "You may choose to be any Part of God you wish to be. You are absolute divinity experiencing itself. What aspect of divinity do you now wish to experience as You?" "You mean I have a choice", asked the little soul. God answered, "Yes. You may choose to experience any aspect of divinity in, as and through you." "Okay," said the little soul, "then I choose forgiveness. I want to experience myself as that aspect of God called complete forgiveness." Well this created a little challenge, as you can imagine. There was no one to forgive. All God had created was perfection and love. "No one to forgive?" asked the little soul, somewhat incredulously. "No one," God repeated. "Look around you. Do you see any souls less than perfect, less wonderful than you?" At this the little soul twirled around and was surprised to see himself surrounded by all the souls in heaven. They had come from far and wide throughout the kingdom, because they heard that the little soul was having an extraordinary conversation with God. "I see none less perfect than I!" the little soul exclaimed. "Who, then, shall I have to forgive?" Just then another soul stepped forward from the crowd. "You may forgive me" said this friendly soul "For what?" the little soul asked. " I will come into your next physical lifetime and do something for you to forgive," replied the friendly soul. "But what? What could you, a being of such perfect light do to make me want to forgive you?" the little soul wanted to know. "Oh," smiled the friendly soul, "I'm sure we can think of something." "But why would you want to do this?" The little soul could not figure out why a being of such perfection would want to slow down it's vibration so much that it could do something 'bad'. "Simple," the friendly soul explained, "I would do it because I love you. You want to experience yourself as forgiving, don't you? Besides you've done the same for me." "I have?" asked the little soul. "Of course, don't you remember? We've been All of it, you and I. We've been the Up and the Down of it, and the Left and the Right of it. We've been the Here and the There of it, and the Now and the Then of it. We've been the Big and the Small of it, the Male and the Female of it and the Good and the Bad of it. We've been the All of it." "And we've done it by agreement, so that each of us might experience ourselves as the grandest part of God. For we have understood that... 'In the absence of that which You Are Not, that which you Are, is Not'. 'In the absence of cold you cannot be warm, in the absence of sad you cannot be happy. Without a thing called evil, the experience you call good cannot exist'. 'If you choose to be a thing, something or someone opposite to that has to show up somewhere in your universe to make that possible.' " The friendly soul then explained that those people are God's Special Angels and these conditions God's Gifts. "I ask only one thing in return," the friendly soul declared. "Anything, Anything," the little soul cried. He was excited now to know that he could experience every divine aspect of God. He understood now, The Plan. "In the moment that I strike you and smite you," said the friendly soul, "in the moment that I do the worst to you that you could ever imagine - in that self same moment...remember Who I Really Am." "Oh, I won’t forget!" promised the little soul. "I will see you in the perfection with which I hold you now, and I will remember Who You Are, always."

😉 Très apprécié 👌, grand Merci 💝, de Québec ‼ 🌏

What he talks about at 21:56 is practically why I gave up on judging others. You really don't know.

yup

Be the friend you want to have

Thank You. This video is so interesting and important. Just like ourselves. We need this information to add to our "psychic" toolbox. Thank You both very much indeed. Nam MYOHO RENGE KYO.

The result of my particular challenge was to deepen my spirituality.

I thought it would be interesting and beneficial to have a soul regression with Rob until I saw what he charges. I’ll have to come back rich in the next life.

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Please use some of the questions posted here in the comments for the next one. Thanks

7:36 - Vanishingly small. The conclusion I've come to is most people are so focused on competition that they don't want to learn anything that doesn't help them 'win' in the rat race.

26:09 he hit this nail on the head.. I was an atheist until I hit rock bottom. I begged god for help and mannnn did god come through. From a jail cell to being a millionaire. Almost 7 years of sobriety. 🙏🏻

It's still hard to comprehend the prep work for ascension, and more light energy flooding us to bring up all the impurities. I think of the mass shootings going on in the US---Uvalde, for example---and have a hard time seeing that this played out the way it did. 😔 😥

Experiencing 'not love' - unfortunately resonates

I am not saying what Rob says in incorrect, it's not - but I strongly believe that when a soul says they no longer need to incarnate they don't mean 'forever' unless they are of a hierarchy higher than humans i.e. Angels and above. They mean until the World has substantially changed until it can offer something new - normally every 2000 years or so. The only human to have evolved so far as to escape all future incarnations on this Earth and ascend to the rank of angel is Gautama, who they call the Buddha. I have researched this idea across many different genuine spiritual teachings.

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My soul is really blur blur choosing the hard path, i think i just being scam on coming back to earth ✌✌✌🤗🤗🤗

I dont ever want to come back to this physical plane. I think that in the future wars on earth here will be fougjt over water resources.

On earth even knowing what love is is impossible were driven by nature! All this sounds great but doesn't add up in day to day life.

Thats interesting. I use a different tactic. When I have a situation or memory thats causing fear or trauma, rather than face it while in turmoil, I return to my senses where the psychological fear or trauma isnt 'actually' happening. Once awareness has re-landed in the calm still now moment of the innocent body i can then face and examine 'the root cause' of the fear or trauma (e.g. what triggered it etc.). Its always an unnecessary suffering self inflicted on the mind and nervous system. Its a cruelty we do to ourselves. Sometime this return to calm then indepth examination is almost simultaneous thesedays. Ruthless self honesty causes a lot of amused eye rolling :) A well cared for painless body is a wonderful sanctuary from a psyche making up all sorts of non sense ;) . In a way i practice reverse meditation with 'both' eyes wide open and head out of the clouds.

Rudolf Steiner spoke several times of souls who were unwilling to re-incarnate, normally after being shown a preview of the upcoming life. They are then shown what they can become if they incarnate and some change their mind and others reluctantly continue. Almost all criminals and the like come from the ranks of those who remain reluctant or who 'feel tricked' on account of the harshness of the World.

It doesn't sit right with me that we arrive blind and dumb on earth with no memory of our true spiritual home, in which we're immersed in unconditional love and infinite wisdom. I thought that we were unlimited on the other side, that we were angelic beings, and that we were at one with the Great Spirit. Coming to earth to try to make ourselves more perfect seems to me dangerous and suicidal. Simply said, I can't wait to go home. Yes, this planet is beautiful but there is way too much violence and ugliness. I've been researching NDE's for many decades and I've yet to find and understand WHY we might need to come here.

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If you plan a life of having "not love" by an abuser, that abuser must have planned to suffer enough to become an abuser, again, what about manifesting something else in this lifetime? This sounds like a lack of free will to manifest goodness.

Do you have a video to explain the concept of "Higher Self" who "created" a "character" who will incarned? That puzzle me... I recently discover that in french book about NDE and Quantum theories and multivers but I'm not sure to understand. As incarnated being, are we a little piece of a big soul who is itself a part of God? How it's work? Thanks.

I think that the concept of "duality" is a root false belief. The concept that everything can be understood as "opposites". Like dark is the "opposite" of light, that good is the "opposite" of bad etc. Something either "IS" or it "ISN'T". It either exists or it doesn't, in greater or lesser quantity or degree. Dark is the "absence" of light, bad is the "absence" of good etc. The Creator does not create "fear", the Creator only creates "Love", it is the concept of separation from that Love that creates fear. Fear is the "absence" of Love.

Or maybe it is just because this life sucks so fucking hard for most of people that they think they are being tricked.

What of manifesting health if someone plans to be ill in this lifetime? I would guess that a lifetime of illness and a caregiver is a bit of a simplification of the reality, where that life plan can include manifestation of health as a way out, and that is still good and complete. Or it's possible health will not happen because the person doesn't take the path of learning health.

Interesting.. However, isn't fear a human emotion?

How can you recognize an evolved soul on Earth ?

I recall before my birth. I cooked it up with my family, and the Lords of karma said it was too much in one lifetime ( well i think it was them, it was a group of wise souls i came to to get it approved). They amended it, so its spread over two. However I'm fairly sure we've amended it in the meantime.

None of the above is the bigger picture answer. However these understandings about the meaning of life are what humans typically subscribe to as the reason to be. There is something we are doing that has not been done. Just give it some thought and I think it will come to your awareness. I’ve been sworn to secrecy 😆 And for the many who think that someplace that isn’t burdened and deeply and constantly troubled, such as infants being raped to death, in other words a tortuous existence for many cannot possibly be more interesting than earth, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

I belong to your feet Melissa!

There are lots of ndes where people explain their experience in hell.

As much as I don’t like it, I think I have a way for you to explain why some know, and remember being forced to come down here. Because I remember mine . It’s much like when our parents know that they have a timid retirement child, who is very cautious and fearful, and doesn’t want to go forward in life trying things on there own. The child enjoys complacency arts and crafts and she/he is content but they’re not growing. So God and your team says, what did you like to spend the night at your friends house and the child says yes I’d love that! How would you like to learn how to cook? How would you like to learn these things and be independent? The child says yes I’d love that This is where the guides say well, you agreed to it! That’s how they get you Or another example if you don’t agree Just as parents do have to make their children do things they don’t agree to. They don’t want to do God and the guides teachers will come to the child and tell them for example just like parents do they tell their child’s you wanted to go to school remember but now you don’t want to go but whether you want to go to school or not, you’re going to have to go to school and we are going to force you to go to school now we reassured you that you’re totally capable of it, we know you’re going to have a good time and even though you won’t remember anything and you won’t visually ever see us because we’re invisible still you’re going to go with you like it or not Because it’s a parents responsibility to actually parent a child and everybody needs to get over this idea that we all have to do things that we don’t want to do that’s part of growing up So I think it’s better to say yeah there are people that are forced against their will to do things. They absolutely do not want to do. I mean, none of us would raise our kids with this idea that they have free will Cuz they don’t ! So, just say that then Yeah, lots of us are being forced against her Will to come down to earth So what just because a parent forces you to do something you don’t want doesn’t mean that the parent or God is not loving Believe me, there are a lot of parents that take advantage of the fact that the child loves them. Trust them often you can get certain kind of kids to do anything for love. But usually a loving parent does all the other things to first try to reassure the fearful child that they’re going to be fine Maybe try bringing this up to people that said they were forced to do something they didn’t want to do I know my parents had to force me to do what I didn’t want to do and I didn’t know what the heck I was doing and I made a ton of mistakes but I did grow and now I know how to do those things and pretty much my whole life I’ve been forced to do things I had no idea how to do.

With any of these life after death experiences about reincarnation to really know if it's not a deceptive spirit they need to have deliverance of the Lord jesus christ

Is releasing karma necessary? Why did God create karma when things were perfect as it was? Why does it seem like the most hateful people are living the best lives here on earth?

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If this is the case, then a good portion of beings here have, at least another 1000 Lifes before they can reach their goals, lol. The condition of life on earth, would seem to be the last place in the universe where you can experience spiritual growth, lol. I have experienced the Army, life in a US inner-city and 17 years in a militant religious cult, add the ridiculous political and social scenarios on this planet, have maybe conclude that this planet is for broken beings, to keep them away from others who are better off.

If these perpetrators of criminal actions against us are doing so for the advancement of our souls then why do we put them in jail? Surely they should be given the highest honour? Doesn't make sense. Maybe its that there is good and evil in this world and you choose which one you want to follow. Simple as that.

I’m not picking up “unconditional love vibes” from this “enlightened soul”. He seems much like an A.I programmed entity. It makes me wonder if HSP’s are soldiers for the dark simulacrum intended to guide us to accept our slavery here. As he stated, “My role is to trust & surrender.” “Power is not in doing things on the physical plain,” means that we should accept evil violence and assault to our our bodies & minds while we “chose” to be action-characters on a physical plain? This does not compute. Why manifest on a physical plain and deny our ability to make it a more beautiful place with the powers we have been provided? How does burying our heads in the sand and adopting powerlessness lead to our ascension? Did we choose to land here to be victims of the world or to improve it?