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Welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. In this episode, Secret Origins Month concludes with the first time the DC Multiverse is explored!
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Originally released November 25th, 2019.
ORIGINAL DESCRIPTION: Back when crossovers were done to stop evildoers who were really good musicians.

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@wanderingstorytellerj7758
@wanderingstorytellerj7758 Год назад
Barry is really, *really* lucky he got back to Earth-1 on his first attempt. If this story was made in the modern day, he's spend about three volumes doing *Sliders* across different universes. Also, kinda interesting how the villains act in this. They legitimately compliment each other and two of them run off to help Fiddler when they think he's in trouble. I guess on Earth-2, there really is honor among thieves.
@carlrood4457
@carlrood4457 4 года назад
Don't you love how Barry just assumed Joan wouldn't know about Jay's secret, despite being married? Sadly, he didn't learn much from this.
@RabblesTheBinx
@RabblesTheBinx Год назад
Kinda weird, since he was a fan of the comics, and Jay got married _in_ those comics.
@leephillips4402
@leephillips4402 4 года назад
Jays aging is surprisingly natural for a comic character
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 4 года назад
Lee Phillips It doesn’t happen often, and I always enjoy it when it does.
@jamesadamsfl
@jamesadamsfl 4 года назад
It’s because they deliberately conceived the post-golden age JSA as older to reflect their status as “the old guard,” and even then in the pre-New 52, you’ll notice they never got much older than their silver age appearances.
@GreatFox42
@GreatFox42 4 года назад
"Scooby-Doo's origin story is weird!" According to Mystery Incorporated, it's even _weirder._
@gingernorton
@gingernorton 4 года назад
You should see the Scooby-Apocalypse version!
@swivelboiiguess6422
@swivelboiiguess6422 4 года назад
Readingakes it seem like a video title from Comic Drake or Billiam
@jordanreed7570
@jordanreed7570 4 года назад
Isn’t he a distant relative of Cthulhu
@tomsmurf4225
@tomsmurf4225 3 года назад
@@jordanreed7570 hes also apparently distantly related to Sun Wukong
@plantainsame2049
@plantainsame2049 Год назад
​@@tomsmurf4225 only like how you and I are related as both humans
@aidanklobuchar1798
@aidanklobuchar1798 4 года назад
When you read this issue and know that the Flash was Grant Morrison's favorite childhood superhero, his work starts to make sense... maybe....
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark Год назад
Depending on who you ask about their work…
@Dethneko
@Dethneko 4 года назад
10:38 Linkara: "The Thinker, The Fiddler..." Me: "And The Candlestick Maker."
@aidanklobuchar1798
@aidanklobuchar1798 4 года назад
Not the Candlestick Maker.... images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81GTwQMSSeL.jpg
@Dethneko
@Dethneko 4 года назад
@@aidanklobuchar1798 -- Gigantamax Chandelure don't mess around.
@ralphremo2406
@ralphremo2406 4 года назад
Still a better villain than Luey the Lilac
@Rixec2
@Rixec2 4 года назад
Maybe the Thinker's problem in the Flash TV show was that he never used his powers to make talking guard dogs for himself.
@ThePreciseClimber
@ThePreciseClimber 4 года назад
12:00 "The origin of Scooby-Doo is really weird." You have no idea. Scooby-Doo and other talking pets are actually descendants of the animals possessed by the Annunnaki, a race of creatures living in another dimension. Every few thousand years, during an event called Nibiru, the barrier between their world and ours grows weak, allowing the Anunnaki to visit Earth. Some of them are good and tend to help humans, while others are evil. The Anunnaki have no physical forms, so they have to inhabit various animals' bodies, thus being responsible for mythological figures as the Egyptian gods, China's Monkey King and the Aztec's Quetzalcoatl among others.
@odinkiller727
@odinkiller727 4 года назад
Is-is this real
@IzzuZiq
@IzzuZiq 4 года назад
@@odinkiller727 Yes. Look it up
@bluestar2059
@bluestar2059 4 года назад
Did you make that up? Because I can believe that it's true.
@creativerealms
@creativerealms 4 года назад
Mystery inc was great.
@IzzuZiq
@IzzuZiq 4 года назад
@Will N To be fair, it's implied the timeline in that show reset to take place before the original show. The origin could still happen, just without the evil big bad alien that got killed by a stick
@rubyr8922
@rubyr8922 4 года назад
I didn’t realize how much the justice league episode “ legends” was inspired by this comic
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 4 года назад
RubyRosdil I honestly really like the tribute to Gardner fox at the end of it.
@buchiklop110
@buchiklop110 4 года назад
It's actually kinda funny that Linkara has such a problem with "Gardner Fox got all his ideas for the Flash comic via psychic dreams" when I doubt he questioned it when watching Justice League.
@ShadowWingTronix
@ShadowWingTronix 4 года назад
It's not the only time a work of fiction in one universe was reality in another and the writer either had the natural ability to peek into that "fictional" universe or through artificial means.
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 4 года назад
@@ShadowWingTronix yeah. even twilight zone got into it (although i forgot if that was first or this comic). Also, you can have variants of that. eiher both are mutiually fictional, earth a dreamed about events of earth b, while earth b had dreams about earth c, and earth c about earth a.
@kainhighwind2
@kainhighwind2 4 года назад
@@buchiklop110 Not only that, but the episode copied the villains, too. just replace the Fiddler with an accordian. Music Meister, I think he was named?
@frozarburst6350
@frozarburst6350 4 года назад
"Baby Yoda is really cute!" - Linkara
@gennybaratta2460
@gennybaratta2460 4 года назад
Frozar Burst he’s not wrong
@RabblesTheBinx
@RabblesTheBinx 4 года назад
"Baby Yoda is really cute!" - literally every person with useable eyes, 2019
@Antonicane
@Antonicane 4 года назад
How can you say something so bold yet so controversial?
@erikthebard2534
@erikthebard2534 4 года назад
Miller is a great comic book artist.....and writer.... I AM THE G-D D-MNED BATMAN!
@RabblesTheBinx
@RabblesTheBinx 4 года назад
@@erikthebard2534 that's a joke, right? Only asking because apparently *some* people actually agree with that statement (based on the fact that his works continue to sell)
@angelsantiago1795
@angelsantiago1795 4 года назад
Wasn't expecting the first appearance of a concept, especially the multiverse.
@urrsys9765
@urrsys9765 4 года назад
Can’t wait for the episodes about Escher Girls posing, Holofoil Covers and Youngblood’s Diseas!
@bizarroguy6570
@bizarroguy6570 4 года назад
It was a surprise and a DAMNED good one.
@leephillips4402
@leephillips4402 4 года назад
Angel Santiago you could do it with marvel next I'm pretty sure that would be marvel UK i would find that very interesting
@AspieMediaBobby
@AspieMediaBobby 4 года назад
I mean,the Multiverse has been a scientific hypothesis since the 19th Century so.
@billygreci9739
@billygreci9739 4 года назад
Well, similar concepts had characters tied to them in comics. Lest we forget the Marvel event where the characters had to appeal to a manifestation of their own universe to unlock the full power of the infinity gems so they could fix problems caused to make that happen.
@ItsTheFizz
@ItsTheFizz 4 года назад
Quite possibly the most important and groundbreaking single issue in DC's history...
@darthwolfX2
@darthwolfX2 4 года назад
Agreed
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 4 года назад
Or at the very least, ONE of the most groundbreaking.
@kennethcrist443
@kennethcrist443 4 года назад
You still have to consider All Star Comics #3 which first brought the National and All-American heroes together as the Justice Society, confirming that their stories were all taking place on the same Earth.
@adamaksoy4169
@adamaksoy4169 4 года назад
Action comics #1?
@skyslasher2297
@skyslasher2297 4 года назад
Michael Scally not just DC but I’m all of comics introducing the idea of an entire multiverse
@Jaebird88
@Jaebird88 4 года назад
It's great to see that elements of this story were worked into the Justice League two-part episode, "Legends", which was dedicated to Garnder Fox.
@funkmastaC
@funkmastaC 4 года назад
Back when the multiverse was a simple concept
@cray-seacoral
@cray-seacoral 4 года назад
You know, I'd like to think that in the DC Universe they read Marvel comics and in the Marvel Universe they read DC comics. And indie comics will exist in both, and both DC and Marvel exist as comics in indie universes.
@TanukiPunk
@TanukiPunk 4 года назад
One problem with this is that some indie comics are implied to take place in either the DC or Marvel universe, or both. Vampirella vs Pantha number one has Vampi state she's in Gotham City fighting Pantha and mentions it as a place where cats and bats do battle. Iirc, it also implies the Vampirella/Catwoman crossover is canon in Vampirella's world.
@thatguywiththetripod8577
@thatguywiththetripod8577 4 года назад
That's what I'd like to think to.
@theponydalek7923
@theponydalek7923 4 года назад
So glad I'm not the only one who thinks that
@IzzuZiq
@IzzuZiq 4 года назад
12:09 You joke but one of the Scooby doo show's actually do reveal why Scooby can talk... And it's definitely weirder than this
@vigilantsycamore8750
@vigilantsycamore8750 4 года назад
As someone on tumblr put it, technically Scooby is distantly related to Cthulhu
@billygreci9739
@billygreci9739 4 года назад
Also, multiple cases of Mystery Inc working with and against DC characters.
@ChristianNeihart
@ChristianNeihart 4 года назад
@@vigilantsycamore8750 say what?
@gracekim25
@gracekim25 Год назад
@@ChristianNeihart crossovers
@Cy-Kill_01
@Cy-Kill_01 4 года назад
Is it safe to say that with this story, the creation of the justice league and justice society, that Gardner Fox is one of the most important writers in the history of DC comics. And I’m surprised he isn’t given more love from the Company
@revbradleyman
@revbradleyman 4 года назад
As the multiverses idea is my favorite thing in superhero stuff- this is the origin of why I’m a fan of the stuff .
@zaphero5518
@zaphero5518 2 года назад
It's really nice that we kind of have an adaptation of this now thanks to Justice Society WW2
@BobLogical
@BobLogical 4 года назад
He actually kind of touched on something interesting here. The whole, "Fiction writer is actually writing the real experiences of people from another universe," trope is pretty common, but we rarely ever see the logical fallout to that. Like, a writer has just been told and presumably given evidence that all of the ideas they thought were their own are actually just events from somewhere else they've been copying. Their whole career is a lie. They don't have the talent they thought they did. That's got to fuck someone up.
@callianr6980
@callianr6980 4 года назад
Conversely, understanding the events in detail doesn't really do much if your writing can't make them compelling. I mean, people have managed to make the grand epic of the Roman Empire's history, founding, conquests, political movements, and fall *boring.* As with many other aspects of history that just make damn good stories. So, their ability to relay events in a compelling and interesting way is, in my opinion, something that should be respected.
@Quickpatch12
@Quickpatch12 3 года назад
One movie did the reverse, I forgot what the movie is called, but a person found out that their life is being controlled somewhat by a well-known author in the movie. The thing is, all the books the author makes ends with the main character dying, so we have this moment where the author finds out and starts asking herself "when I wrote those previous books, did I kill people?" it ends with her not killing the character, allowing the person to survive, even if the person told her "you should finish it how you want it" the author just couldn't do it and changed the ending.
@src175
@src175 2 года назад
That depends on the writer, though, doesn't it? Grant Morrison would love it if that was the case, though a more materialistic writer probably would be ruined by that, yeah.
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 2 года назад
Perhaps they could get the general idea of the character, but the details of stuff like their escapades and accessories being different.
@columbatiberius2176
@columbatiberius2176 4 года назад
I think the Gardner Fox getting dreams of Jay Garrick might be like how Robert E Howard said Conan appeared to him at night to recount his adventures.
@YourUncleBenis
@YourUncleBenis 4 года назад
Funny, whenever a muscular man in rather revealing clothing visits me in my room at night, his goals are much more nefarious.
@XshadOtakuX
@XshadOtakuX 4 года назад
You think the original script for this comic called for "guards," and the artist just assumed they were supposed to be guard dogs? Then, when they brought up later, he was just like, "okay, that makes way more sense, but the talking dogs are awesome, and I'm keeping them," and everyone just kinda agreed?
@buchiklop110
@buchiklop110 4 года назад
Good timing with this considering CW's Crisis on Infinite Earths is coming in 2 weeks.
@davincent98
@davincent98 4 года назад
My thoughts exactly
@LilypadPanda
@LilypadPanda 2 года назад
Y'know, it occurs to me that if this were a Marvel story, the two Flashes would've mistaken each other for a villain through a contrived series of misunderstandings and poor communication and started duking it out, leading to a severe amount of property damage before teaming up to defeat the villain...
@Harryeaster
@Harryeaster 4 года назад
Funny, the psychic waves were kind of an explanation of why stories are written in that Two-Parter of the DCAU Justice League and it had also the fiddler. It's fun, when they reference that stuff^^. Also, nice detail: the villains want to help their colleague and they are not like "screw that guy." It's nice, when even the bad guys demonstrate that teamwork and being nice to each other helps.
@BigAmericanGirlFan
@BigAmericanGirlFan 3 года назад
Kinda foreshadows how the Flash's villains/rogues gallery would be one of the most civil and loyal rogues galleries in superhero comics
@docette2015
@docette2015 4 года назад
Multiverses are fun :D And I'm with you -- it's nice to see a story where two characters from different worlds can meet WITHOUT it being a world-ending crisis. In fact, for Barry it's the chance of a lifetime -- solve a case with his comic book hero! :D That's really sweet, and I'd like more stories like THAT in the modern era. High-stakes adventures are fine, but a few low-stakes "hey let's just have a pizza night and catch some crooks" stories would help balance everything out nicely. *nods* Also, glad to see the kitties are still loving the camera. XD
@Saiyef96
@Saiyef96 4 года назад
In the Justice League episode “Legends”, where the League go to an alternate reality and meet the Justice Guild Of America (off-brand versions of the Justice Society with off-brand versions of the Golden Age Heroes), part of the premise was that the Justice Guild were also a comic book in the League’s own reality that Jon Stewart was a fan of as a kid. While I know the Flash in Justice League was actually Wally West and not Barry Allen, I wish the writers gave Flash the bit about being a comic book fan meeting the characters he liked due to the Flash of Two Worlds comic and how Jay being Barry’s hero and inspiration was a big part of their relationship and Barry becoming a superhero.
@skyslasher2297
@skyslasher2297 4 года назад
Saiyef96 I know what you were taking about but I’d specify that you are talking about Barry not Wally who was there
@alankrumwiede2670
@alankrumwiede2670 4 года назад
Baby Yoda will unite this country and bring us out of the dark times.
@JaelinBezel
@JaelinBezel 2 года назад
And devour more unborn babies! (i just saw the Passenger episode) Seriously, whoever thought that was funny or cute is fucked up.
@kainhighwind2
@kainhighwind2 4 года назад
I like that the whole "He got it in a dream" was used in that Justice League episode where they get stuck in another Earth.
@StepperBox
@StepperBox 4 года назад
"And still none of them had a ZPM" I appreciate the Stargate Atlantis Joke. Thank you Neil Gaimain for Destiny (ok he didn't create him but he made him cool)
@MeliesCinemagician
@MeliesCinemagician 4 года назад
"We're starting with something... groovy." You're reviewing an Earthworm Jim comic? Finally!
@andrewbarone3781
@andrewbarone3781 4 года назад
Probably Ash versus the Evil Dead
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark Год назад
Evil Dead Christmas.
@bradenyoung4003
@bradenyoung4003 4 года назад
i like your cats have been making a aperance
@Gungelion
@Gungelion 4 года назад
@@comixproviderftw_02The new Stan Lee cameo
@davidspring4003
@davidspring4003 4 года назад
What are you talking about? They have always had cats.
@katherinelynch4193
@katherinelynch4193 4 года назад
@@Gungelion The spirit of Stan lives on in one cat and Jack Kirby's in the other.
@ultra6671
@ultra6671 4 года назад
He's training them to take over the show one day.
@davidspring4003
@davidspring4003 4 года назад
@@katherinelynch4193 one is Starfire so...Garth Enis? Who did his favorite run of the Titans again?
@jacobwilson8579
@jacobwilson8579 4 года назад
Considering Dream and his bro Destiny are Endless really high level cosmic beings who exist as concepts they could very well have been responsible for these authors dreaming of different reality’s as a way to recycle ideas or perhaps to inspire other heroes in many different realities giving them similar names and abilities and allowing them to unite when a Crisis or similarly dangerous threat arises.
@brandonc5061
@brandonc5061 4 года назад
That feeling when you are so early the Flash thinks you're too fast.
@jackwells8107
@jackwells8107 4 года назад
The funny thing is, they decided to do Crisis because they thought the multiple Earths concept was too confusing, but the very first Justice League I remember buying was 100, when I was only 7 years old. I loved the story and never had a problem following the concept. One thing I did love about the 'jewels in the ears' explanation is that the Fiddler's power really shouldn't effect the Flashes anyway, because of the Doppler effect.
@louisvictor3473
@louisvictor3473 4 года назад
"It's too complicated" = editorial, management and marketing are having a real bad day, and writers just writing whatever with whichever characters aint helping" and not for the readers to follow any particular individual story
@kennethcrist443
@kennethcrist443 4 года назад
My first Justice League of America comic was #91. It had both the Earth One and Earth Two Supermen, Hawkmen, Green Lanterns, Flashs, Atoms, and Robins. I was 8. I had no problem with the idea or the different versions. Up until Crisis, I always thought that it was explained very well whenever the various different Earths were used. I never understood the "too confusing", and I was only a casual comic book reader for the next several years.
@kennethcrist443
@kennethcrist443 4 года назад
@@louisvictor3473 "It's too complicated" = we need a new marketing gimmick and just can't admit we want to create a big cash cow for the 50th anniversary of DC. Let's use a reason that is insulting to our readers while making us look like concerned people and not the greedy corporate tools that we really are.
@isaacbailey3681
@isaacbailey3681 4 года назад
For those who don’t know what the Doppler Effect is, when something producing sound moves, the waves get closer together on one side than the other; same with when something moves within earshot of the sound, from their perspective. The sound sounds slightly pitch-shifted to the observer-the same effect that the gems have. Note that this is the CliffNotes explanation and thus may be oversimplified.
@derangel9143
@derangel9143 4 года назад
The powers that be at both comic companies tend to think their readers are absolute morons that can't understand anything more than simple concepts. WB believes people won't be able to understand multiple versions of the same character existing in both TV shows and movies separately. I don't remember exactly how old I was but my first DC comic was a Batman issue smack dab in the middle of Knightfall with Azreal Batman killing people. I immediately understood that this wasn't the same Batman I had seen from TAS or reruns of the Adam West series. I got into X-men comics around the same time as well and if people can understand WTF was going on with the X-men during the 90s I think they'll be able to grasp any concept comic writers throw at them.
@lynngreen7978
@lynngreen7978 4 года назад
I love that they recreated the cover on the TV Show. I also love that the community center plays a role in Final Crisis.And of course, they homaged this story with the Justice Guild on Justice League. My first JLA Comic was the 1982 JSA team-up, where they also ally with the All-Star Squadron to battle the Crime Syndicate of America, and Per Degaton, to save Earth-Two, and prevent the nuclear annihilation of our world when super-powered American's stole the Russian missiles in Cuba.
@AnimatedIdiotGuide
@AnimatedIdiotGuide 4 года назад
I’m comin! I’m coming! PHRASING! Dead. 😂😂😂
@richardauthement3105
@richardauthement3105 4 года назад
he gets points for using Archer.
@TF2Fan101
@TF2Fan101 4 года назад
2:22 THAT CAT'S WAVING AT US!!!!!!! IT CAN SEE US!!!!!!!!!!
@Ashurman666
@Ashurman666 4 года назад
How much do you want to bet the cat is somehow going to be important for the storyline?
@edvance1030
@edvance1030 4 года назад
@@Ashurman666 I can totally believe that.
@Hornetog9vp
@Hornetog9vp 4 года назад
His first appereance was when he announced the title of comic
@jeremytung1632
@jeremytung1632 4 года назад
Didn’t even see them in the corner there.
@benwasserman8223
@benwasserman8223 4 года назад
I remember them referencing this on The Flash. Also having John Wesley Shipp play Jay Garrick is genius
@AC-gb7do
@AC-gb7do 4 года назад
Ben Wasserman Then having him play Barry again from the 90s CBS Flash series was great!
@benwasserman8223
@benwasserman8223 4 года назад
A C Yes, on Earth-90 mind you. Though his hero galley seems like a hodgepodge of universes
@AC-gb7do
@AC-gb7do 4 года назад
Ben Wasserman I had forgotten which Earth Barry/Shipp was from, appreciate the info.
@benwasserman8223
@benwasserman8223 4 года назад
@Trevor Anthony And having Amanda Pays, Alex Désert and even Mark Hamill play variations of their old roles was great fan service
@gracekim25
@gracekim25 Год назад
@@benwasserman8223 yay!😂 I’m not alone!❤
@WikiPeraX
@WikiPeraX 4 года назад
It’s weird that we see the blue hand and the Earths side-by-side recreated today as depictions of the Multiverse, and not “mucking up vibrating a rope to entertain some bored kids”.
@theruoc147
@theruoc147 4 года назад
I hope he eventually does more of the silver age crisis crossovers
@KRIOSthe5th
@KRIOSthe5th 4 года назад
Obviously the Flash superspeeds to the nearest dry cleaners and borrows their equipment to get rid of the wrinkles before he puts the suit on.
@treyurbach2550
@treyurbach2550 4 года назад
Recommendations for next year’s secret origins month: Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver in Uncanny X-men #4 Wally West in The Flash #110 The Vision in Avengers #57 Nick Fury in Sgt. Fury and his Hallowing Commandos #1
@OfficialCptTesla
@OfficialCptTesla 4 года назад
I'd love to see him cover Wally's origin.
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 4 года назад
@@OfficialCptTesla and have him give a mini rant at the beginning of how, before all the crap wally went through, he came from humble origins
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 3 года назад
You got two of them right.
@RabblesTheBinx
@RabblesTheBinx 2 года назад
@@daelen.cclark and the Scarlet Witch/Quicksilver.
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark Год назад
@@RabblesTheBinx That too.
@arbiter690
@arbiter690 4 года назад
But in the DCAU Justice League when Lantern (Jon Stewart), Hawkgirl, Flash (Wally West), and Martian Manhunter crossed into a different dimension it was also similar to this cause of how the heroes and villains all reminded Green Lantern of his time as a boy reading comics. The writer of the comics kept in sync with them until he stopped making them and likewise in the other world it was devastated by nuclear warfare resulting in a truly horrific change for someone there.
@SilverHairedFreak25
@SilverHairedFreak25 4 года назад
And thus, one of the most fascinating concepts in all of science fiction (maybe fiction in general) is introduced to the masses.
@MrSafior
@MrSafior 4 года назад
I think science fiction novels where the first to come up with this concept.
@eugeneruby433
@eugeneruby433 4 года назад
I had no idea how in-depth this story was. I kinda figured that it was just a one off that eventually inspired the idea of the DC Multiverse, but no, practically all the details that would be there later are laid here. That, and as a previous commenter noted, the DCAU episode Legends was basically a direct adaptation of this story with a few character changes. Always loved that episode, and now equally appreciate this issue. Thanks Linkara! On an unrelated note - OMG KITTIES! I want to squeeze them! :D
@katherinealvarez9216
@katherinealvarez9216 4 года назад
Yes, I agree: Baby Yoda is cute and that is a fact.
@mttylerdurden9
@mttylerdurden9 4 года назад
I'll bet grant Morrison snuggles with this comic every night
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 4 года назад
Mike Manhattan I think that’s obvious.
@Wurzelknecht
@Wurzelknecht 3 года назад
I just watched this review, felt like finally continuing the Flash TV series after having watched season 1 years ago and went on Amazon Prime to do so, and literally in the first two episodes of season 2, Jay Garrick shows up and they reference the cover of this comic. As a non-comic reader, I'm so grateful to Linkara for all the years of comic book reviews and backstory explanations, or else I wouldn't have gotten half of all the references in superhero movies and shows over the past decade.
@gracekim25
@gracekim25 Год назад
Eh ❤
@carlrood4457
@carlrood4457 4 года назад
The one thing about the Earth-Two heroes being comic book characters on Earth-One is that everyone should know who Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman are since their identities are the same on both worlds. One of my favorite multi-verse stories was an issue of Brave & The Bold where The Phantom Stranger gives Batman the opportunity to prevent the murder of the Waynes on another Earth. Just like several decades separated the Earth-One Bruce from his Earth-Two counterpart, this Earth had a similar separation. Robin goes along and while Bruce is preoccupied with finding Joe Chill, Dick investigates the world. He finds that young Bruce is a spoiled brat, the world lacks any heroic literature, and star charts show no sign of Krypton ever existing. He begins to wonder if preventing the murder will rob the world of the only hero it will every have.
@emporer15
@emporer15 4 года назад
1:50 Bonus points for referencing Stargate: Atlantis!
@fredjones2170
@fredjones2170 3 года назад
Funny I should watch this right after rewatching the Justice League episode “Legends”, which was clearly inspired by this - and dedicated to Gardner Fox as well!
@RKStrikerJK5
@RKStrikerJK5 4 года назад
2:24 Rogue kitty sighting!
@Quinnknights
@Quinnknights 4 года назад
...Bouncing from universe to universe, hoping each time the next vibration, will be the vibration home!!
@Wanderingsage7
@Wanderingsage7 4 года назад
I mean, Dream is also a thing so the dream writing thing makes as much sense as anything. Also Shade is a rather interesting character in his own right.
@Valdagast
@Valdagast 4 года назад
If you want to know more about the Many-Worlds Interpretation, I recommend _Something Deeply Hidden_ by Sean Carroll. There is actually a variant of Many-Worlds where the different branches can communicate through what is known as an "Everett phone".
@PhantomObserver
@PhantomObserver 4 года назад
Ya gotta love that last panel of the comic book. Given that Gardner Fox wrote it, it essentially puts Fox and Infantino “atop the fourth wall.”
@KertaDrake
@KertaDrake 4 года назад
No ZPM in Atlantis? Finally! I can say this with a straight face: "This sounds like a job for Aquaman!"
@chrisbuttonshaw2088
@chrisbuttonshaw2088 4 года назад
and the more perfect part is Aquaman (Jason Momoa) was in Stargate Atlantis!
@TheHeroOfTomorrow
@TheHeroOfTomorrow 4 года назад
I hope Lewis guest stars on another WTFIWWY episode with Tara so all three hosts can have their cats onscreen.
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 4 года назад
One of the best and most iconic comics of the Flash and DC comics in general. Really hope that someday in the future this gets adapt into a movie (it can be either live action or animated). It would be awesome to see a movie showcasing Barry’s origin and having Jay Garrick appearing and acting as mentor for the new and inexperient speedster.
@ellnats
@ellnats Год назад
honestly the multiverse is such an enduring part of the comic stories, so much so, i use it as the basis for my fan stories
@CMWaters
@CMWaters 4 года назад
See, I have no problem with the idea of "getting thoughts about stories via mind link to another dimension"...but only because I first came across an idea like that via an episode of Darkwing Duck as a kid, where a guy gets linked mentally (I think by a helmet in that version) to Darkwing's world, and thus gets story ideas from it.
@mitchfletcher2386
@mitchfletcher2386 4 года назад
It's called "Twitching Channels"!
@TsukiCondor
@TsukiCondor 4 года назад
But did he Stand for every one of us?!?
@Hanyoumaru
@Hanyoumaru 4 года назад
I do love the fact that the villains just Accept that there are TWO flashes running around without asking any questions about it. Also, if Gardner Fox existed on Earth 1 was there one on earth 2 as well?
@myriadmediamusings
@myriadmediamusings 4 года назад
Considering the DCTV Crisis on Infinite Earths that’s happening, this is great coincidental timing. Either that or Linkara is some sort of wizard that can predict events in order to have good synergy, but how likely is that? As for SO Month 2020, if we’re gonna go back to 2 Marvel/2 DC, I’d say some good subjects could be Nick Fury, Carol Danvers, Batwoman and The Atom (Ray Palmer).
@MarquisSmith
@MarquisSmith 4 года назад
"Fiddler-Mobile". Fun educational fact: in the UK, we call those windowless vans.
@TheBattlesword
@TheBattlesword 4 года назад
Some ideas for next year’s Secret Origins Month: Marvel Super-Heroes #13 and Ms Marvel #1(first apearence of Carol Danvers both as herself and Ms Marvel respectively) The Umbrella Academy #1 (no surprises for guessing what this is the first appearence of) The Boys #1 (first appearance of the Seven and the heroic black ops team of the comic’s title) Swamp Thing Vol. 2 #25 (first appearance of John Constantine) Alias #1 (first appearance of Jessica Jones) Hero for Hire #1 (first appearance of Luke Cage)
@dr.strangebat9397
@dr.strangebat9397 4 года назад
Speaking of the DC multiverse... ...the Crisis happens next week.
@the4thwallkid132
@the4thwallkid132 4 года назад
They're even making another one next year, look up dc comics Generation 5
@dr.strangebat9397
@dr.strangebat9397 4 года назад
@@the4thwallkid132...huh.
@warriorterra
@warriorterra 4 года назад
Linkara releasing a video on Monday....WHAT KIND OF NEW SPORT OF MADNESS IS THIS?
@wilfredomartinez2068
@wilfredomartinez2068 4 года назад
There has been the occasional comic where a character's dimensional parallel is a normal person, for example Earth-One's Johnny Thunder never had a Thunderbolt genie; he ended up becoming a villain.
@sith50
@sith50 4 года назад
It's actually interesting that THIS was the inspiration for a Justice League episode where Martian Manhunter, Flash, Hawkgirl, and John Stewart end up in a silver age world.
@DragonxFlutter
@DragonxFlutter 4 года назад
I'm also a huge fan of the Legacy Story concept. It's really cool to see a new hero and an older hero of the same ilk (example: the two Flashes in this comic) meeting up and working together for a bit. Not only is it a nice continuity nod and some acknowledgement to the older fans, but it's also a way to get younger readers interested in hunting down the old stories to see what all the fuss is about. And in this day and age, Legacy content _should_ be easier than ever to access. But that's a rant for another day...
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 4 года назад
Am i the only one who likes the concept of "dreaming about things that happen in another universe"? I mean, It isn't that far fecthed, and is similar to those cases of "a character has a prophetic dream". Just switch "dreamed about the future" o "dreamed about the present in another universe"
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 4 года назад
@@MysteriousTomJenkins Yeah. it also plays with the concept f multvierse: What were only dreams or fictional characters in this earth, are real in others (wether are connected or not it could depend from story) Have you ever heard of tulpas? is basically a general desription of an imaginary friend that came to life and now has an independent existence on its own from you. That if you only want to bring 1 single "fictional character from a comic book" could be an interesting idea (especially if you have the tulpa of said comic book character interactingwith that comic book character who comes from an universe where the comic book events are real). However the concept would fly way higher if you tried to say "one person created a tulpa pocket universe out of their dreams without having godlike powers" (although it could be an intereting concept to tie it to the astral plane and stories that have imagination as a power.)
@tskmaster3837
@tskmaster3837 4 года назад
If there's an infinite amount of parallel worlds then some of those worlds would be imaginary ones; I love how this this story walks up to this line by having Barry talk about Jay being a fictional character in his world but then runs away from it very quickly because what it means to his own life as the Flash. "I'm real and you're... obviously real." It looks like to me Jay Garrick actually took the next logical step of what that really means and seems to be aware his desire being the Flash relates to his book being cancelled... and the "new guy" showing up and what that means for the Flash of Either World. When Peter Parker meet Stan Lee in the final episode of the SM Animated series, he took his "fictional" status better... especially in how he didn't chew Stan Lee out for making his life a mortal hell. But, sure, one guy meets his fictional counterpart and it means"multiverse" for everyone based on an assumption; DC comics stands for both DisContinuity Comics and Don't Care Comics after all.
@StepperBox
@StepperBox 4 года назад
I love the absolute extreme Grant Morrison goes to with this idea in multiversity, where everyone is in everybody else's comic books.
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 4 года назад
@@StepperBox i loved morrison's idea of, "what happens in comic book from earth 3, happened in the earth 56" and things like that. ALSO i loved how Spider-Man realizing he was a fictional character in his universe was actually a case of "being at peace with himself". that even his suffering has purpose to inspire others to rise up and be better people. or at least give them a good time.
@StepperBox
@StepperBox 4 года назад
@@ianr.navahuber2195 I need to read the spiderman comic but it sounds exactly like my kind of jam!
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 4 года назад
@@StepperBox i talked about the animated series from the 90s
@StepperBox
@StepperBox 4 года назад
@@ianr.navahuber2195 well dang! i should get more caught up i guess.
@calsh14
@calsh14 4 года назад
The plot point about Gardner Fox WAS a plot point in an episode of Justice League called Legends. One of their best ones tbh.
@Future_Vantas
@Future_Vantas 4 года назад
I liked how they didnt shy away from the racism and sexism of that time. You're a credit to your people indeed.
@timephire
@timephire 4 года назад
The Flash of Two Worlds cover is my all time number one favorite comic book cover!!
@andrebrynkus2055
@andrebrynkus2055 4 года назад
Plot twist - both Gardner Fox and Jay Garrick had Ancient communication stones. When Fox was dreaming of the Flash, Jay was dreaming of being a comic book writer. He never questioned it because he thought it was relaxing.
@the4thwallkid132
@the4thwallkid132 4 года назад
The Flash playing Tennis with himself? Ha! Sonic the hedgehog can play Ping Pong with himself!
@eanrollins3443
@eanrollins3443 4 года назад
Accidental or deliberate..... YOU MAKE THE CALL!!!
@SHINOBI-03
@SHINOBI-03 4 года назад
Since the movie trailer confirmed he read Flash comics then it may not be a coincidence he wanted to see if he could do it
@jgshowtime9184
@jgshowtime9184 4 года назад
@@SHINOBI-03 so by the logic of this comic, there should be a Sonic/Flash crossover
@eanrollins3443
@eanrollins3443 4 года назад
@@SHINOBI-03 Don't ruined the joke.
@ramirezthesilvite
@ramirezthesilvite 3 года назад
"I hear they're gonna announce my next opponent in their next news broadcast!" Me in the future: *sigh* ....
@fusionspace175
@fusionspace175 4 года назад
I just want to point out that after this and before Crisis on Infinite Earths there's about ten more Crisis events where the Jla and Jsa team up on a mostly annual basis for stories like Crisis on Earth 3 (Crime Syndicate), or Crisis on Earth X (Freedom Fighters). They're collected in the trade paperback Crisis on Multiple Earths, and it's a fun read that gradually expanded the multiverse. The point is that it wasn't a jump right to Crisis on Infinite Earths, that was the culmination of a long pattern of Crises. If you enjoyed this simpler, old fashioned style of comics, check it out.
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 4 года назад
Fusion Space Fair enough, but he knows that. (I think he was referring to modern multiverse stories.)
@gabrieldevoogel6225
@gabrieldevoogel6225 Месяц назад
I just realized even sonic generations referenced this cover in the death egg robot cutscene, both Sonic’s in a hall (with a giant mirror instead of a wall) confused at the other,before Classic hears his Eggman speak and runs while older sonic is still confused, letting the boss begin, just an awesome reference
@Gaia_BentosZX5
@Gaia_BentosZX5 4 года назад
This comic is also tragic, in a way. It was the last time DC got to be itself, rather than try to be someone else. The contrasting styles of the current and previous incarnations of The Flash did not hamper the overall tone in any way, as with most, it also took advantage of the goofiness of the Golden Age with fourth wall humor, using it as a way to not talk down and berate the audience, but rather ask the fans to see if they are willing to stick around.
@mesektet5776
@mesektet5776 4 года назад
I always assumed the reason The Flash's suit didn't have wrinkles was he was basically auto ironing it with mach speed as soon as he popped it on.
@AzureIV
@AzureIV 4 года назад
This reminds me of the Justice League animated series two-parter "Legends" where they travel to the alternate dimension and meet the Justice Guild of America. They also talk about the dreaming vibrations create comic books thing in that as well.
@ohnosmoarlulcatz
@ohnosmoarlulcatz 4 года назад
Yay I got that Stargate Atlantis reference at the beginning.
@dr4c0blade
@dr4c0blade 4 года назад
So the Flash first crosses the dimensional barrier -- completely by accident while performing rope tricks for kids. Anyone else feel that's kind of a weaksauce way to start off what would later become one of the most important crossovers in comics? Also, is this the origin of the infamous comradery between the Flash Rouges? Shade and Thinker realize their fellow crook may be in over his head, and immediately rush to his rescue instead of just taking the loot and ditching him.
@Jayfive276
@Jayfive276 4 года назад
9:46 - No wonder his wife doesn't look very happy. Hiyooooo!
@skyslasher2297
@skyslasher2297 4 года назад
0:53 doing some research it apparently undid the orginal crisis bringing back The Infinite Earths Also DC Metal expanding on it in a very cool way
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 4 года назад
I’m pretty sure Convergence was an excuse to make pre-new 52 stuff. And DC metal made parts of it “darker and edgier”.
@DanBrizuela
@DanBrizuela 4 года назад
Perfection. Would love to see more concepts being introduced for the first time. What's the Marvel equivalent?
@joshuaingobo1559
@joshuaingobo1559 4 года назад
Daniel I. Brizuela It involves various individuals who went to or arrive from alternate futures that branch off from the main Marvel universe and creating “What If…” issues that explore what would happen if various Marvel characters did something different.
@jeremytung1632
@jeremytung1632 Год назад
Gotta say I always love it when you roll out your “talking dog” voice.
@furioussherman7265
@furioussherman7265 4 года назад
The Scooby-Doo joke makes me wonder if Linkara's read the Scooby Doo Apocalypse comic and what he thinks about. Personally, I think it stands as easily the first or second most ambitious take on the franchise, and as such one of the best.
@DCUOMultiverse
@DCUOMultiverse 4 года назад
Thanks Linkara for reviewing my Secret Origin. ;) ;)
@richmcgee434
@richmcgee434 4 года назад
Always loved the caption box hands. Distinctive and imaginative.
@DrakeyC
@DrakeyC 4 года назад
*checks the calendar* Monday? The hell is Lewis doing updating on a Monday?
@Stephen-Fox
@Stephen-Fox 4 года назад
You gave a 'Phrasing!" for both Flashes coming at the same time, but give nothing for 'Vibratory Earth'? Kay.
@grantmoore8228
@grantmoore8228 4 года назад
The breach of multiple worlds! Countless events and deaths have been caused by this single issue! One of the biggest creations ever in DC lore! An event that combined the gold and silver age into a single story...and it all happened because some kids weren't going to be able to see a magic show. Do you ever wonder what would've happened if that magicians car didn't break down or whatever?
@rhymebeat1142
@rhymebeat1142 4 года назад
I'm glad to see that after months of work Lewis is back on track!
@creativerealms
@creativerealms 4 года назад
Love the cat cameos.
@masterdarklink1
@masterdarklink1 4 года назад
Not gonna lie, the alternate Linkara outfit in the thumbnail is pretty damn good and I hope it makes a real appearance soon~~
@keiththompson9435
@keiththompson9435 4 года назад
Again: DAMMIT BARRY! As far as this comic was concerned: The Thinker is short sided and... Did Araki get some ideas from American Comics? As for the Scooby-Doo Crack, That might be accurate considering that Scooby-Doo is owned by the WB and had teamed up multiple incarnations of Batman. Next Time: HAIL TO THE KING BABY!
@keiththompson9435
@keiththompson9435 4 года назад
MysteriousTomJenkins Wasn’t talking Part Six or Multiple Universes. I was seeing the Strategies by the villains and the heroes.
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