Well, you know why I'm here - I made the video! haha... But if you want to see a video about the character I'd most like to see on episodes 4 and 5 of the crossover (in January) watch this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nnfb5Nx0sM4.html
Considering Barry's mother is alive in this show, it might even be the original timeline before Reverse Flash went back and killed her, thus creating the new timeline presented in the CW show, and most of the Flash comics we know. EDIT: I just threw this theory out there for giggles, and it DEFINITELY hasn't aged well lol
There are other fans who say that, but I personally don’t think so. If they’re different timeline versions of the same character from the same Earth, then why would this Barry Allen be about 30 years old in 1990 and the current Barry Allen be about 23 in 2014? How would you explain that? I say they’re from two different Earths.
@@Joelikesmoviesnstuff yeah it's cool he plays two flashes in the flash TV show earth 3 Jay garrick ND Earth "90" he's this Barry Allen earth 90 = 1990
The colorful world of both 90s Flash and Micheal Keaton's Batman makes them easily connected. I mean neither of their stories contradict each other. I'm hoping they both live in the same universe. It just seems to fit very well
One thing I should have mentioned in the video: There's one episode with one scene in which Barry walks by a movie theater, and there's a poster for the 1989 Batman movie - suggesting that's playing at the theater... I think that suggests they're not set in the same universe. Sorry.
@@Joelikesmoviesnstuff in the cw flash 90s flash is there and he meets cw flash. Then in the crisis on infinite earths cw flash meets movie flash. In the flash movie just released movie flash meets micheal keatons batman 🔍 🤔
You think it's the most comic accurate Flash suit we've ever seen? I'm not sure I agree (but maybe most fans would agree with you - I'm not sure). But yes, I will be curious to see what they do with this Flash on Elseworlds.
This show gave us Mark Hamill as the Trickster. But it probably gave the producers of Batman the Animated Series the idea of having Mark Hamill do the voice of the Joker.
Joe likes movies n stuff That's exactly what happened. Tim Curry was originally cast as The Joker, but voice director Andrea Romano wasn't happy with him. Hamill had done a one-shot character on BATS and that, plus his performance as The Trickster, landed him the job of replacing Curry.
Well, in the book "Batman Animated", Paul Dini said that the rumor that were not happy with Curry's take was bullshit, but that they did wish for something a little less menacing... So Hamill was perfect. I myself wish that some day, the BTAS episode "Joker's Favor" with Tim Curry's voice will be released for the fans. It's been played by Curry at events, conventions, etc; but you can't find it online AFAIK...
There's a connection I never realized until I saw this video: in the 1990 series, Mirror Master was played by 1970s teen heartthrob David Cassidy, who is the father of Katie Cassidy, who of course plays Laurel Lance on Arrow.
Joe likes movies n stuff barry allen in this show is an alternative version of Henry allen/jay Garrick in an unknown earth in the arrow-multiverse. So actually when you talk about 'barrys' parents in the 1990 show you mean Barry's grand parents in the arrowverse.
Holy crap I never know Shipp played the flash more than 20 years before playing the flash again in the current show. He's easily one of my favorite actors on the show whether he was Henry Allen or Jay Garrick I think he nailed it especially when it came to emotional scenes, I always got pretty misty eyed.
I don't know if the new Flash looks like Atom Ant, but I grant you he does look more like a Kid Flash. To young looking. It makes it laughable to even have a Kid Flash on this show. Granted John Wesley Shipp looks the right age, but when, WHEN are they ever going to get a blond actor, who looks the right age who is blond like the comic book character???????
the 90's show will always have a special place in my heart, I was 7 years old when it first came out and it was the first time I was exposed to the world of superheroes, after that it was the 1989 batman film and a few years later it was the batman 1992 cartoon show.
I‘m glad you saw and enjoyed the 1990 show. My video was really aimed towards fans of the current show who never saw this 1990 show, but I hope you still enjoyed my video anyway.
Well, you know why I'm here. I made this video... But if you're curious to know who I'd most like to see as a guest for episodes 4 and 5 of the Crisis crossover (in January), watch this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nnfb5Nx0sM4.html
HOLY SMOKES! did anyone noticed the Superman in flash suit!.. It would surely look like this 90s flash 😍😍👍🏼.. Current flash is skinnier than a normal person.. Stil good
Maybe this show was the original timeline, but when Reverse Flash went back, he changed everything. Just move everything about 20 years later for the 90s show.
I’m not too sure about season 6 but season 3-5 were really bad. Everyone had powers and it wasn’t really about Barry anymore and the Iris-Barry thing was kinda forced. Speed was also super inconsistent, Savitar in his initial scene was so fast he was practically everywhere in the city at once. Then he got beaten by 3 speedsters in the finale. And he died because he got shot. This one is less important but the black flash thing sucked “The one thing black flash can’t take, cold”. Season 4, Barry’s speed is also super inconsistent one episode he runs faster than a nuke and in the same episode he cannot stop someone pressing a button to detonate said nuke. They build up the characters and reset them the next episode. How do you stop someone who goes faster than anyone can see? Pretend like it didn’t happen. And that’s what they do. Season 5, this one is more an opinion, Nora goddamn sucks she messes up so much and her running so weird (since it’s an opinion I won’t expand more). The characters also feel super wooden one scene it’s heartfelt and then 30 seconds later it’s anger monotone “I will kill all metas”. It’s just a complete 180. Also the CGI is very bad. Season 4 finale. I don’t think I need to say more. This could be a better show, I think the problem is mainly the fact that it’s super long. They’re decent concepts but they stretch it out to 23 episodes all 40 minutes. So many subplots. This would help with VFX as well because they’d have more budget with less episodes.
Thanks for this video. If you watch the Trickster episodes you can hear Mark Hamill doing the laugh that would eventually become his voice of the Joker on the Batman Animated Series. This was a great show for its time, and still enjoyable to watch on DVD. It holds up so much better than other Super Hero films and shows of that era.
Very true! Mark Hamill used a similar voice for the Joker and Trickster. If you look at this clip from the current show, when Hamill plays the Earth 3 Trickster, I’d say he uses the exact same voice he used for the Joker. Thanks for watching and commenting. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xa5KlDgkm_E.html
The Trickster is what landed Hamill the role of The Joker on BATS after Tim Curry voiced one episode and it was determined his performance was not what the producers were looking for.
Great video. I remember watching this show with my parents haha. And when I first saw Shipp on the new Flash I freaked out. I was so happy they cast him as Barry's dad. I love this new series. Great acting, stories and characters. Where my Cisco squad at? Favorite character hands down.
Please check out this video about Impulse (Bart Allen - grandson of Barry Allen) on Smallville ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1Xfra14P_Uo.html
@@Joelikesmoviesnstuff Yeah, but I didn't know how deep the connection was. They had the actor and the suit, but they never directly told us it's the exact same guy and show. I thought it was just a reference and things just happened a lot differently. Kind of like someone flashpointed the 90s show
Please watch this retrospective about a Superman show which you probably never heard of (but should have!) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nnfb5Nx0sM4.html
is it lois and clark? Edit: Oh. Superboy. Yeah I researched it. After thinking about a favorite show Gotham, I researched the trickster and found the original show and researched superman's rogue gallery and found superboy and other shows. I'm very excited to watch your video on it to see what rogues appear in it.
Alex Desert was on the CW version of The Flash. He played his character from the show but he was the police captain in the earth 2 version of Barry world where Iris was a cop and her dad owned a bar
what if Grant Gustin can’t build bigger muscles? Then which you rather see: the producers add muscle padding under his suit, or his physical appearance remains in the same shape?
Check out this picture in the link. Those artificial muscles are a practical effect, not CGI. They look pretty real to me… I would have liked to have seen Grant Gustin wear something like that when he plays future Barry. facebook.com/StanWinstonSchool/photos/a.132306723471670.10590.130940650274944/1382823355086661/?type=3&theater
Yes! As I wrote in response to a different post here: At 1:52 of this clip, look at the left side of the screen and you should see it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LradkKBfcQo.html
Thanks for the great video! I do wish you'd put in the shot of him eating the huge bowl of cereal with orange juice (iirc) to keep his energy up! That was such a memorable scene!
I still enjoy(ed) The 1990 Flash. Underrated, sure; the effects may have been very 1990ish, but there were some great moments. Fast Forward was a great episode. "Now...let's see how fast you can REALLY run." Twin Streaks "If you go I must stop you." "I understand." They did introduce some powers as the show went on: ability to vibrate through walls (phasing), fast healing (fell out of a high window/frozen entirely with Cold's gun). Would have loved to seen where it would go!
The current show had also a very brief crossover with the old show, showing a flash wearing the ninety costume coming from "Earth 90", accompanied by the ninety tune when he appears.
At least we still get to see John Wesley Shipp playing Jay Garrick! And in truth, I prefer seeing him as Garrick teamed up with Earth 1 Barry, than seeing him as Earth 90 Barry teamed up with Earth 1 Barry.
Yes. At the time this show was made, I think movie/tv producers had the idea that a superhero needs to look a lot more muscular than producers seem to feel now generally.
Yes, anyone is ripped when they’re wearing a padded suit! That’s why I personally thought the producers of the current show should have put Grant Gustin in a padded suit whenever they show future Barry. But the producers had other ideas than me.
This video must have been produced before Season 3's premiere, because in that episode Alex Desert finally makes an appearance as Central City Police Captain in the Flashpoint timeline
I know this video is a year old now, but Alex Desert has been in the new show twice so far - once in the first episode of Season 3 in Flashpoint (and gets wiped out when Flashpoint is restored). The other he was a jazz singer who gets murdered.
Yes. As I just wrote in another response, I posted this video 06/08/2016. Alex Desert’s first appearance on the current show was in the episode “Flashpoint” which first aired 10/04/2016.
I don't watch the current Flash, so I didn't know that the new show calls back to the old one so heavily! That's great. I enjoyed this stuff as a kid, and I always like it when an update pays homage to its predecessor. It's why the Mission Impossible movies kind of got off on the wrong foot for me.
Thanks, Joe! In December there's going to be an episode called "Elseworlds" in which John Wesley Shipp plays the same character he played in the 1990 show (much older) coming from a different universe to work alongside younger superheroes.
@@Joelikesmoviesnstuff Yes, I just heard that. So this series is a de facto continuation of the original show! I'll have to check it out! It's great when an old story gets one more chance to breathe.
for a 90's tv show this was amazing, i loosly remember watching it. and im glad the arrowverse brought this flash back, he has a soft spot in my heart.
The costume was so great. It had comic book muscles but flexible and he can turn his head. I wonder what happened in the Batman costume department, It took the 5 movies later to be able to tirn his head. In here, they figured it out in a TV production. And the theme song was perfection.
I'm 42 years old and I can remember when the flash first came out now that I'm older I can't remember what the plot was on that flash but it do make me want to go back and re-watch it thanks for putting this little skit together
i love how meta these CW superhero shows are. bringing back characters and original actors from shows long gone. it was why i was really hoping Lynda Carter would make an appearance in Crises as Wonder Woman.
The current show, like most superhero shows and movies today, benefits from an explosion of interest in this genre. And so they get more support and more money. These shows back in the day didn't get that. I admire that they were able to get this show on even for one season. I enjoyed it very much and was very happy to see John Wesley Shipp on this new show. It shows that they were showing some respect to one of the shows that made the modern one possible. Also, you know I think that Alex Desert actually did appear on the modern show. Unfortunately it was a small cameo where he got killed in an alley by the bad guy that episode. But I can't remember the exact episode. I just remember thinking:" Hey that's Julio!"
I remember this show. It wasn't half bad (for it's time). John Shipp was recognizable to everyone from all the soap-opera work he did in the 80's. He was on almost all the big soaps of the time.
Nice video. Very informative for those who haven't really followed the 90's version of the TV show. Thanks! Oh and just wanted to mention... lol...you'd think for 1990 etc. that the CGI or VFX would be slightly better? Maybe budgets and stuff... who knows.
Thanks! I’m glad you found the video informative.At the time it was on, I don’t remember any fans complaining about the effects. People just accepted it as 1990 TV show. Back then, we’d only seen a handful of comic superheroes in any kind of live action (Superman, Batman & Robin, Wonder Woman, the Hulk - and I think that was it at the time).
Did you know about Barry Allen's grandson on Smallville? If not, please watch this video of mine ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1Xfra14P_Uo.html
For me personally, it's best to him play Jay Garrick. But it's also fun to see him play the 1990 Flash.... By the way, it was just confirmed that Shipp will appear on this year's upcoming Crisis On Infinite Earths crossover. It's still not confirmed which character he'll be playing, but I'm guessing it's the Earth 90 Flash. We'll see.
@@Joelikesmoviesnstuff yeah, him playing Jay Garrick was also pretty cool, and what would also be cool is if 1990 Flash encounters Jay Garrick. All of this is pumping me up
Composed by Danny Elfman and conducted by Shirley Walker, just as they did on Tim Burton's Batman. Walker scored the series herself, then went on to score Batman The Animated Series and Space: Above & Beyond.
I would agree that in some ways the 1990 suit did look better than the current one. However, I think all the effects are better in this current show. For me, "super-speed effects" are one of the few examples in which CGI does look better than Practical Effects. But that's just my opinion. Thanks for watching and commenting.
The outfit is A LOT better, the one on CW sucks and always had done, horrible design, CBS is truer to the actual Flash, also he looks like a superhero unlike CW's Flash... yes CW's special effects are better because its 15+ years later LOL. But hellz no about CW's Flash being superior, its got weaker and weaker story wise and the actual DC characters too the more it goes on, its much better than DC Legends that pi$$es all over DC icon characters like the JSA and Arrow that recently made a big dump on one of the best DC characters created Vigilante... so no Flash is no where near as good as The Flash with Shipp was in 1990! Cool vid though, entertaining, thx.
Lee Sharp no sorry the new flash is awesome and the cgi is never better on old one please dont even be whiny on that grant gustin is the best barry allen incarnation ive ever seen
Decaticon Lord the new flash show is a piece of shit imo. the script is so fucking lazy... and the costume looks worse than a lot of cosplay costumes ive seen.
Yes! The current Flash show is FILLED with references to the 1990 show... The whole idea of calling his Earth "Earth 90" is a nod to the fact that this show aired in 1990.
i think that the 90's is the original timeline of the flash before reverse flash kills his mother this is the first timeline and the new tv show is the new timeline.
A lot of other people have said the same thing, but it doesn't make sense to me personally. Why would the original timeline have Barry be about 35 years old during 1990, but in an altered timeline of the same Earth be about 25 years old in 2014? It just doesn't make sense to me. I think the 1990 show is NOT the original timeline of Earth 1, 2 or 3 of the current show, but does exist somewhere out there in the current show's multiverse.
Joe likes movies n stuff well Thawne before killimg Harry and becoming him says to him I must create your particle accelerator a decade earlier. So it makes perfect sense 90s show is the dif timeline. Not another earth.
well it's definitely not the current shows original timeline, but it is likely the original timeline on another earth, because on the cw show flash still existed in the OG timeline, so I'm assuming that's how it always is in the comics
