3:25 That eyebrow raise from Nora when she realizes that Barry is saddened not by his own disappearance, but by the fact that he will miss out on his daughter's life. It's just so touching to see how she registers the shock and heartfelt emotion.
@@FinalGaWd3 he wasn't going to die the untouched timeline concluded Barry destroying that satellite and the dagger made a different cicada. If he died there Nora wouldn't have been able to go back and even save him
*Barry’s daughter shows up from the future Oliver: Barry, what did you do this time? Barry: Woah, this one wasn’t me. Oliver: Smaller Allen, what did you do this time?
The most heartbreaking thing about this scene is Barry realising he missed out on his kids life. He wasn't really as affected seeing he went missing it was the fact he never got to see his daughter grow up. Barry was just talking to Iris about seeing her first and he isn't even there and that's what's hurting him
I actually did cry on this scene... he and iris were just talking about their child’s first this and that and he finds out he’s not there for it... 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
How everyone crying lol nora in a vest looking hot af thats all i could think about and ive watched this over 3 times🤣🤣 you guys need to get out of your emotions jesus..its killed the fun it was way better in years like 2012 and 2016.
Barry, Iris, Wally and Nora all have several things in common. They've all been connected to the Speed Force and Barry and Iris didn't have their mothers while growing up, and Wally and Nora didn't have their fathers in their early lives.
Barry grew up with Iris since childhood and both didn’t know about Wally’s existence until adulthood, due to Iris’s mother Francine leaving Joe while pregnant and never telling him about Wally.
She came all the way back to meet and spend time with him. Barry learns that he is not there for her firsts for many things. It breaks my heart to see Barry learn this. 😢😢 ((This is the most likes I had on a comment. Thank you. ❤️❤️))
@ 2:21 the way she says she's not responsible and that she's selfish sounds to me like she's been told she is those things by someone close to her. Maybe Iris. It would explain why they have such an awkward relationship.
I feel like the only reason he let her stay because he created flash point and was with his parents for 6 months. He knew exactly how she felt and plus he wanted to get to know his daughter 🙂 this is amazing I love this show, I love the flash, huge flash fan. Wish I had more comics though😒
lol "I'm so bad at being a speedster" pfft try and beat Barry he literly created 2 timelines just to save his mother and then trys to fix his mistake ended up screwing up other people's lives even more :p
40inchvintage nah wrong the Flash didn't get stuck in the future. He never left the past. So maybe hee still in the past when his mother was killed. He could be hinding in the present as we speak
Well if you think about it she didn't have help to learn to be responsible with her powers. She didn't have a team and Iris didn't teach her. Instead she was mentored by a bad guy. What do you expect?
Whenever Nora comes from the future she tells everyone that the flash is still missing 25 years later, but if you don't remember in the episode invasion (Season 3 Episode 8) Dr. Stein and a few other people listen to a recording of the Flash 40 years from now, so that means that Barry ends up coming back or they changed the future and Barry never even goes missing. The Flash is around 28 to 30 years old so 25 years from now he'll be anywhere from 53 to 55 years old. Whenever Barry Allen recorded the message 40 years from now he would be 68 to 70 years old. I personally hope and think that they will end up changing the future where he never ends up going missing.
Maybe she work undercover by heroes from the future under orders on how to stop cicada. If anyone knows about cicada and villains. It would be eobord thawne who else time travels everywhere.
@@tammywhammy2033 She was trying to find away on how to stop cicada. No one in the future haven't been successful what she said. And didn't know it was grace underneath that mask of hers until now. Even nora expose her identity it'll be hard and difficult to catch and stop cause she's been off the grid and on a killing spree rampage for years now.
There was someone about a year ago when the episode when iris and Barry were about to get married, in the comment section of that clip, some person said “ watch out for that server with the braid” and I wonder how she knew that
That moment with Nora’s first appearance felt really out of place. They talked for about a minute, and so you knew it wasn’t a random extra. Was so happy we got a whole season with Nora.
Yeah when they showed her in the background from the back view I knew there was something very odd about it and she walked up to him I mean she was literally fangirling Berry that's a wait a minute wait a minute something's very strange here she only had about maybe a 20 second clip but it was enough to convince me and everybody watching that actress that played his daughter was connected to him the moment she grabbed his arm I knew something was up and told him don't forget to say I do because if you don't say I do she won't be born.
This season kills me more then any show I’ve watched in my life. I have 2 daughters that I just haven’t been around. I feel so bad and upset of what Nora must have gone through. I do my best as a father but watching her it just doesn’t feel like it’s good enough. Nora my heart breaks for you.
You know this plot line almost mirrors a fan theory that I had where some speedster comes back in time to get barry's help in closing the black hole that was created when RF went back and Barry chased after him.
Didn't Barry send a message to the wave rider in the year 2056? So does he comes back old and warns the legend about a war in the future or is he stuck from where ever he is and can't come home yet? Maybe the Arrowverse is leading up to infinite crisis issue?
Anime Freak considering time travel this could have happened at several points before he disappeared. But I hope that Barry disappearing isn’t completely dealt with in this season. (Side note)what happened to the black flash? When is he coming back?
I think the 2056 barry no longer exist because hr wells changed the future. Hr sacrificed himself to prevent savitar from being born. The 2056 message was because of savitar.
When she said she was a few years old I'm like maybe she has some memory. I have some memory form being 3 and 4 but of course some memories I'm not sure if thier real.
Kent Peterson Most people have memories from 3 or 4, but not many. It’s not like you remember that much or that you can control what you remember, so stands to reason she might remember falling off her bike or playing in the snow, but not her dad in particular.
Kent Peterson Maybe that was why. I don’t have any memories of my parents from that age. The memories I have are of random things, not everyday occurrences like being with my parents.
@@lexi219 yeah i have very few memories of before school childhood and even then they are either trauma or something really inconsequential like the shade of yellow paint that was on the walls of a house i lived in at that time nothing like a proper memory more like fragments of a dream and a lot of them have been remembered by triggers not something ive always actively remembered. Like wondering why some tree id never seen or smelled before felt so strongly familiar like it was tugging at me that i couldnt focus on anything else like the memory was just there out of reach because it was outside my house and would bloom and perfume the air in the yard. The sensation of sheepskin rug on my barefeet the time i threw those sticky hand toys up onto the underside of a steel carport with my friends since they were in the lolly bag of the borthday party we were at. The smell of sunscreen the sensation of my hair being brushed the watermelon shampoo that i loved but turned me off watermelon for over a decade and my brain still registers it as non food lol.wearing this blue wrinkly donut brimmed hat with all my haircon top through the hole so my mother vould shampoo my hair and wash it without soapy water getting in my eyes the fear of the creepy crawly that cleaned the pool. Being told id be sucked down the drain if i dodnt get out of the bath before the water ran out and it made that horrendous pits of hell noise. So many small things that don't really have much substance at all but the vivid sensations or feelings are whats strong. The more i try remember the more links i get of mkre fragments but im not opening that can of worms lol. Although i loved the sound of the clacking wooden duck pull along toy.
@Chris Caruso I guess the show was trying to imply that Nora wasn't supposed to interfere in that event, but most people ended up thinking she saved Barry's live
I could've seen Nora meeting Oliver and calling him and Felicity "Uncle Oliver and Aunt Felicity" similar to how Mia Smoak called Barry and Iris "Uncle Barry and Aunt Iris"
Who else noticed Barry face Change when she mentioned Turning Back Time because she's got a special power that Barry doesn't when she turns back time it doesn't affect her so she's still moves
I don't understand why this is still happening in 2024. I think barry's disappearance is a result of himself and Eobard running back in time and Eobard killing barry's mom, which create a new timeline. In this timeline, Eobard has to create the flash earlier if he want to go back to his time. So if the flash is created earlier, the event from 2024 aren't suppose to happen earlier too, 2020 or 2021 for example ?
this doesnt make sense but correct me if im wrong. this newspaper article isnt from this timeline. its from the original timeline when flash was created in 2020 the one which the show doesnt show. when rverse flash killed barrys mom the timeline changed and flash was created by him in 2013 7 years before he was supposed to becom the flash. the article is from that original timeline in which the flash and reverse flash fought and when flash " disaperred" in 2024 he actually went woth reverse flash back to stop him from killing his mom. thus this newpaper article, the flash who tried to stop revrse flash and rverse flash are timeline remenats. so is nora also a time remenat because this is not the futurr of the current timeline
So is Barry ever going ask anyone from the future, specifically his future, not how to prevent it, not to know the specific time it started but just to know WHY that battle with Thawne out of all the others caused him to disappear “forever”? Now in the unaltered timeline it was because Thawne figured out Barry’s identity and went back in time to kill him as a child. (Adaptation but regardless) But in this timeline Thawne has known Barry for a really long time personally outside of him being the Flash, so if the reason for the Crisis was because Thawne figured out who he was. What’s the reasoning for THIS timeline where Barry will disappear in the Crisis? Any theory’s, or guesses? By the way if any of you are curious as to how I know Reverse Flash/Professor Zoom (I know but sue me) is the catalyst for the Crisis. The bits and pieces we are able to read (if you pause) through each season 1 to current , piece together who is there, the damage, the time etc etc.
This the only event which Barry can't prevent no matter what he does. Reverse flash will kill his mom and hence Barry disappears because of that. So this future will happen as long as the flash exists no matter what
Vacivity Gaming So you could say it’s a “fixed point”, in which case what would happen if as unlikely or as we saw in regards to Flashpoint (CW version anyway) likely as it seems if Nora found a way to prevent it from ever happening in the first place? She wouldn’t just be preventing Barry’s life with Henry’s life in prison, or living with Joe, and Iris, or meeting Caitlin, Cisco, and an marooned Eobard Thawne who helped him become the Flash, she would also prevent the after effects of Flashpoints erasure from the timeline as well. In other words if/when she finds a way to stop the Crisis happening all together, she’s just going to be putting herself in a very extreme version of “like father like daughter” scenario, and that’s only if she’s lucky. I really hope Thawne shows back up meets Nora, pieces together what she’s really trying to do and we get a “you really are Barry’s daughter” kind of line from him. “The you I know from the future, he’s not THIS stupid.”
I dont think so cause as Harrison Wells from Earth 2 in season 2 said that event is the only thing Barry cant change no matter what he does. He can't prevent it
The article keeps changing. Now, it's not just about the Reverse-Flash, but also about the Anti-Monitor...Providing it's not the writers thinking that no one is paying attention (which could be possible, considering the by line was not even saying "Iris West-Allen" at the beginning of Season 1), it must mean something. It means that no matter what changes in the present, his disappearing can't be avoided, no matter what he does. Even if he manages to neutralize RF, even if he beats the Anti-Monitor before hand, even if any of this crisis' protagonists dies or disappears, even if the timeline changes... There will always be a reason causing him to vanish. It doesn't matter what leads to it. The Flash vanishes in Crisis is a fixed point in time. As long as he is a Speedster, he'll vanish on the 25th of April 2024. That's why Eobard was using this article to check that Barry became the Flash. The only way to avoid him disappearing is for Barry to lose access to the Speed Force. For him not to be The Flash. But he will never do that. Because he would never take the risk of anyone suffering just because he stopped being The Flash to save his own life. So he will disappear, no matter the circonstances. And he can't know WHY, because the WHY doesn't matter. It will change every time the Timeline is changed. At least, that's my theory.
Who else here came back from Elseworlds? That article has been teasing Crisis on Infinite Earths since season 1 and now it's finally happening. A LONG TIME COMING.
leading to in an incredable amount of heat in a garage with Icecream from happy harbor ended up in a family divorce right in front of him Xs is his only hope to save him