The Flash - Spoiler Review 

The ending with Clooney felt like a Twilight Zone kinda thing, that Barry clearly hadn't repaired the timeline, that there likely is no way to repair the timeline. Like Keaton said with the spaghetti, it becomes a mess.

The "I got you line" is also what Barry says when they rescue Kara and Barry refuses to leave her behind so scoops her up, Kara opens her eyes and Barry says "I got you"....its less about a nod to the Reeve Superman saying it to Lois and more of a callback to what Barry first says to Kara which is probably the first act of kindness she has had since being captured.

I think Sasha Calle will be the biggest missed opportunity if she isn't brought back. As much as I'd love to see more of Keaton we at least have a couple of movies with him in them. To go to the trouble of finding the next Supergirl who was really good in the role only to get rid of her and have to find someone else seems like such a waste.

If you want to know the reason for the ending cameo, you should check The Hollywood Reporter article about it. The ending you wanted (Supergirl and Michael Keaton's Batman) was the original ending and that's how it was filmed. But then after the merger of Warner and Discovery, they did a different ending with those 2 plus Superman and WonderWoman too. And then James Gunn and Safran came and said "we're resetting everything anyway so scrap all this, we need something new" and almost as a joke, thought what other Batman they can bring in and thought of Georges Clooney. And somehow he accepted and that's what you get.

The CGI faces in this movie were scarier than anything in IT: Chapter Two.

I think the idea for the sequel would be that all the "fate" that Barry experienced was the Reverse Flash all along.

I loved the opening sequence even though the babies looked horrible.

The CGI wasn’t the best but to me it was a minor distraction because I really liked the story and the acting.

I want to see more of Sasha Calle as Kara. I loved every second she was on screen, and IMO it would be a real shame if that's the only time she gets to play the role. Her change of heart made sense to me. She remembers enough of Krypton to know Zod is doing bad things, and was soured on humanity due to being locked up. She knows Barry expected to find Kal El, but still saved her despite her not being whom he was looking for. To me, that arc of her having a change of heart makes sense, even in that limited time.

I really love and appreciate the shout out to the great Jon Schnepp. Thanks Dan.

When supergirl said, "I got you" as she's flying The Flash up to the lightning I saw that as when The Flash was carrying her out of the facility and he said, "I got you"

Loved the Nic Cage Superman scene, instantly thought of Jon Schnepp!

For me the comedic tone was suprising at first for sure, but I think it works with the character of the Flash. I like that he's often a kind of jokey character but also has to deal with a lot of tragedy. The way he goes from light to heavy really quickly feels true to life if you know anyone with a light sense of humor who has also gone through a lot of tough stuff.

As a kid who grew up with Batman '89, it made me so happy to see Keaton as Batman again, and so fun to see his fight sequences in this movie. But it also makes me sad that he's used as a one-off. Keaton looks like he still has it in him to be Batman for a few movies.

Did not know about Keaton and Calle being in the end of the original shoot. That makes waaaay more sense. Especially remembering that this was originally supposed to come out before Batgirl, and Keaton reprised his role for that movie.

I really think, that if the babies looked REAL, that scene would have been horrifying.

I think Kara changed her mind about humans just because of Barry saying he helped her because she needed help. That beat really stuck with me.

Also thought it was an interesting idea that in Keaton's timeline, Batman was so good at being a hero that Gotham City became idyllic and Bruce Wayne had nothing productive to do to channel his madness.

I think the tone was totally uneven: Storywise it’s a pretty dark movie. Basically everyone dies, no one gets saved. Then again it was full of slapstick humor ( baby in the microwave etc.)

“Come on Barbie, let’s go party” is a reference to a line from a cheesy AF pop song from (I think) the 90s. It’s called “Barbie Girl” by Aqua.

With regards to Supergirl (22min in your vid) it seems like you missed (or forgot) the scene where she asks Barry why he saved her, before she decides to help him. This was in the HK version shown on the 15th Jun here

It's not undoing the arc at the end I think it just shows that he hasn't fully let go of it and he couldn't help himself. I liked it.

Dan to your point of supergirls turn to help, she asks Barry why he saved her and he said "because you needed help" so I think that was the push for her to help him....because he needed it

Im always happy to spend part of my day with you, Dan. In fact, i rewatch some of your videos regularly. Thank you for being a genuine and earnest sweetheart, you make the world a nicer place to exist in. At least for me, haha. Hope your weekend is a good one!

I like the balls of the movie to kill michael keaton because in these movies we're used to batman always having a way out, always having a plan b, and I think Barry himself views batman in that same way despite him being just as flawed and damaged as barry and when he's holding him after he says "i'll bring you back" and he tells him "you already did" that was to me the most powerful scene, cause it was him having to let go of the ideals and misconceptions of people and life that he held onto for so long

The fact that there is an alternate 3rd act and endings for Keaton as Batman and Calle as Supergirl is fascinating. Fingers crossed that we get these scenes on the home video releases, but knowing that now makes the WB execs (in charge at the time) seem even more cynical. Could it be that this movie simply had too much time “in the oven”?

I think you nailed it on its head @Dan Murrell when you said that WB was rebooting the whole universe, so they didn’t bother “finishing” the VFX. Looks like they needed to apply couple more filters and some rendering time to polish those waxy CGIs, but the project manager probably told the team to stop working when they got the news about the reboot.

Why did Jay Garrick look like Teddy Sears? In the show John Wesley Shipp was Jay Garrick, Teddy Sears was Hunter Solomon (Zoom). But Zoom did pretend to be Jay Garrick for a few episodes, did someone just googled Jay Garrick in TV Flash and got the wrong picture? Feels about the right the level of care that went into this film.

I took it that Supergirl changed her view because she saw that the humans held her captive in service to Zod and then she thought back on Barry saving her.

From a broad view, I think this was a great adaptation of the "Flashpoint Paradox" story, but with changes that were really well done. When you do adaptations, some things have to change because of the mediums, some things need to change because of story reasons when you're building on an existing franchise. And some things are changed just so fans know know the original story have some twists they wouldn't have expected. I think this movie handles all of those types of changes really well. ***Spoilers for this film and Flashpoint*** The reason Batman was in this movie was because he (or a version of him) was pivotal to the Flashpoint Paradox scene. Even trying to help Barry recreate the accident that gave him his powers was lifted straight from the books. The Supergirl appearance, that was also lifted from the books, except that it really was Clark being held (by the US military, not Russian, if I recall), so that's one of those not-needed-but-well-done changes in this film. And then tying it together with the MAN OF STEEL stuff, I think, was a smart idea that was decently executed.

What I love about your reviews Dan is that you expertly articulate all the thoughts I have about the particular movie but in the back of my mind. Thanks again.

If Barry actually accepted his fate, instead of moving the tomato can, he should've travelled to the point where he stops himself from changing the timeline in the first place. Like they wrote it in the books.

Something I think you didn't talk about Dan was how good of a comic adaptation it was. Quality of the film aside, I thought as a film that was trying to do a flashpoint story without doing a direct adaptation they did a great job. They hit all the points without doing a direct remake. The way Batman V Superman was kind of trying to pay tribute to The Dark Knight Returns this paid a much better tribute to flashpoint, but did not require any sort of prior knowledge of that graphic novel or the animated feature.

Oddly the CGI didn't bother me in this. I was surprised. However, what did bother me was the annoying use of music at times, and the annoying antics and acting of young Barry, which got tiresome quickly. What I loved was everything with Keaton as Bruce/Batman, even during some dumb moments. Keaton looked and acted perfectly again, and it was as if he never left the role. So damn good! I also enjoyed the opening sequence with Batfleck, and Flash speeding to Gotham and saving the babies.

Who else like me think the dog's reaction when it's falling from the builing while the end credit rolls is the best VFX in this movie?

I can’t stand when time travel films try to pull that “fixed point in time” nonsense. There were definitely plenty of ways Barry should have been able to save Supergirl and beat Zod, but they just used that tired excuse to give him a reason not to.

Superman vs the spider ... that is truly the movie I wanna see. That's what I learned from the Flash.

On the Twitter Flash page one of the movie reviews quote "believe the hype" and I laughed my ass off when I saw it because I don't feel the hype and so does the social media audience

You mentioned you didn't really see any moments where both Barry's were present and the editing was bad but I had seen a couple and they're kinda stuck to me. The 2 major ones are when they're getting young Barry's powers and when they're in the Batwing. When they phase through the walls to get to the lab, it looked very noticeable after the phase. When they're in the Batwing to get Kara and young Barry is wearing the suit, you can see especially from his mouth that he looks really edited. They both look like really bad deepfakes. Aside from those 2 moments that I can remember, everything else looked really clean when both were on screen.

In the future, I think everyone will come around to appreciate the schlocky tone they were clearly going for with The Flash. Even the film's score was consistently over the top. LOVED keaton. He slipped back into the role with even more energy and charisma than in the '89 movie.

That sequence of Nic Cage fighting a giant spider is such a deep cut, I’d be shocked if more than 10% of the audience got it. That entire sequence is probably more confusing to general audiences than anything else.

I loved Sasha as supergirl she brought heart to the character you can tell she is born for the role as she explained on how Gal Gadot inspired her whilst seeing the first Wonder Woman movie that was an great story that she told in an interview and the very moment when Sasha got casted for the role it reminds people of the time where Helen Slater got casted wayback in 83 when supergirl went into production and now here we are again.

“Come on Barbie, let’s go party” is a line from the song Barbie Girl by Aqua.

What did you think of the ‘Joker’s Last Laugh’ easter egg? Initially I thought it was cute but upon reflection, why would he keep that? And it really kept going for all those years?

Hi Dan, I can't believe you didn't get the reference of Barry's tooth falling out of his mouth at the end. When Barry changed the location of the tomato cans in the grocery store to the higher shelf, this caused a "butterfly effect" that had major ripple effects. Remember Barry went back in time and he lost his tooth when he was hit by lightning. Not only did he lose his powers when he was hit by lightning, but he also lost his tooth, which he superglued back into his mouth. So the fact that he loses this tooth at the end of the film when he is talking to George Clooney Batman means that our Barry DID NOT return to our timeline (with the Ben Affleck Batman), but that he is still stuck in an alternate timeline, where yes, his father is exonerated, but the characters and history of this timeline have been altered. This is actually kind of sad because since this DC Universe is ending, it is very unsatisfying that we don't know what will happen to our Barry/Flash. The end credit scene with Jason Momoa is significant because we learn that our Barry has been trying to get back to his timeline. He tells Aquaman who is very drunk, "...they were all Batman, they were all Bruce Wayne, but each of them is a completely different person." This statement indicates to us that he has been trying to get back but it has failed because he keeps encountering different Bruce Wayne/Batman individuals who are NOT the Ben Affleck Batman. He also tells Arthur Curry/Aquaman that in every timeline, Aquaman is the same guy. "Yeah, pretty much, you're lovable, furry, loyal, motivated by bacon." I had to think about this end credit scene for about an hour or so, and this is the conclusion that I've come up with. Aquaman is supposed to be a God. A God of the oceans, so maybe as a divine entity, Aquaman does "live" as the same person/divine entity in different timelines. What this means for the upcoming Aquaman movie, I don't know. But if Aquaman is the same person/divine entity throughout all time lines, then I think the actor, Jason Momoa might play Aquaman in the new DC Universe. So in this way that end scene, even though it wasn't the best concocted way to present this very important information, connects the Aquaman character to the next coming DC Universe. I really didn't like Jason Momoa on the ground with his face in gutter water. Dan, you have your informants in Hollywood, so maybe you can find out if Jason Momoa has agreed to continue being Aquaman in upcoming DC movies. If so, then this end credit scene was very important because it sets that up. 😉

The movie had a fantastic first 15 minutes (basically a dream Justice League 2 movie), had some surprisingly weird moments and some Looney Tunes-styled Slapstick humor. The ending not really resolving anything wouldn't feel so anti-climatic if there was already a sequel lined-up, but that's not happening. I'm ok with all the CG, except the CGI replacing humans or babies in action sequences look super-rubbery. The last scene with the mom was very emotional. Mostly good with brief flashes of greatness. 8/10.

Ezra Miller did a great despite public issues. Michael Keaton had the loudest applause. followed by Nick Cage at my screening. Good music too. Job well done! As always great review Dan.

Agree w Dan… upon seeing Chris Reeve, I was happy for exactly 1 second, and then my smile fell 😕 it just didn’t seemed right…

One question. Maybe I missed something, but in the original, unaltered timeline, who is it that stabs and kills Nora Allen?

As always, your reviews are on point. I think my biggest tissue with the multiverse "bubbles" is the inconsistencies of who is in what universe/the meaning behind them. Because the first bubble features a Golden Age/B&W Flash & Superman, are we supposed to be under the assumption that there is an equivalent Flash for every generational multiverse, racing in the center to effectively save Superman? Also, why is Nicolas Cage's Superman not the Superman within Keaton's multiverse world (since they were both initially Burton projects) - it's silly details like this that likely sound dumb to the majority of audiences, but it's the kind of stuff that (when planned properly) tells me that the creatives involved actually care about the movie as a whole. But considering Andy's comments on the VFX, I'm assuming he didn't point as much thought into this as I am within this comment lol.

Good review Dan! Just saw The Flash...and I really dug the film! 8.5 out of 10 for me. To me CGI is whatever, since I'm an older film buff and can see it's evolution from Tron to Young Sherlock to Abyss to T2 to JP '93 etc etc to what we have now. It's use as a filmmaking tool or it's overuse from practical location use etc. The CGI in Black Panther end fight was not great either, but the story & characters were so strong, that it makes the film, and I feel the same for The Flash. To me, when Barry & Dark Barry are in the Chronodome pretty much every "otherverse" character portrayed (except for George Reeves & Adam West) were pictographic stylized images similar to Kryptonian history scene in Man Of Steel - Cavill, Gadot, Affleck, C. Reeves, Helen Slater, and of course Nic Cage in full "Superman Lives" realization, in which I shed a tear a bit thinking of John Schnepp and us longtime Schmoes Know fans :)...but that particular CG didn't bother me at all, I see it as a style/design choice. And most of these CB genre films with big budget scale has pricey CGI to some level, again as an older movie buff to me bad CGI is Spawn '96 and The Mummy Returns "Rock-scorpion" finale lol... I had a blast. Loved "Back to The Future" meets DC. Ezra was great as the two Barry's! Keaton was great! Sasha was great! Both of them kicked butt, loved all the little touches...Batfleck & WW & Barry 30 scene, I liked Barry 18 using a Batman suit, loved Joker '89 laugh box, loved Flash phasing, love spaghettiverse, the opening Baby Save was hilarious (to me) and I got the Clooney "Bat-earth" ending which was a hoot...yeah, considering all the issues and postponing The Flash had, Muschietti did great IMO.

They got Clooney because they couldn't get Bale, lets be honest. They didn't even think about if it made sense 💀

I give this movie like a 6.5-7/10, the cgi was pretty rough at times but then other times some shots were fantastic

Flash is an 8/10 in my opinion. Really enjoyed it.

Keeping me entertained while at work, you’re the best Dan ❤

The opening sequence was outstanding I loved it, totally hilarious (but Batman in the day time is odd)

Had a little suspicion at the start of the year that little old Blue Beetle could end up being the best reviewed of this year's 4 DCU movies!

I enjoyed the rest of the movie so much that I didn't mind the weird CG of the chrono-bowl, nor the fanservice smorgasbord at the end. Also, they actually shot 3 endings - at first it was just Keaton & Calle meeting up with Barry, then they did a reshoot adding Cavill, Gadot, and Momoa to showcase Cavill coming back, then once that plan (and everything else) was scrapped James Gunn asked for the final version that essentially promises nothing and is mainly a joke. They did have big plans for both Keaton and Calle originally, so I'm a little bummed about that now but screw it. Bring on the clean slate.

Excellent review. One more like this and you have a new subscriber. Keep it up!

Could Zack’s version still just be another timeline. And both versions still exist ? 😂 🤯

I’m not sure why the decision was made to remove Keaton and Calle at the end. Particularly Keaton because he has a fanbase for his version of Bruce Wayne/Batman. Why not continue to capitalize on that? At the very least he could have been kept around to be in a Batman Beyond movie where he was the older Bruce Wayne mentor figure. Dan is right that putting Clooney in is a fun Easter egg to get people’s attention but ultimately it’s not going to lead anywhere. Clooney probably only agreed because he knew it was a short scene meant as a gag and he wasn’t coming back. If this is a James Gunn choice it’s somewhat off putting because it just feels like wasted potential.

I don't know if you caught it, Dan, but "I've got you" was also a callback to Barry saying the same thing to her at one point during their rescue of Kara. Also, the "come on Barbie, let's go party" line is from the song "Barbie Girl" by Aqua.

I'm so glad you mentioned THE NAKED GUN -- that's precisely where my brain went during that scene.

Theres a scene for supergirl where she saw the fight with zod and realises that she needed to save the humans as she isnt evil like he is.

I thought the Nickolas Cage Superman fighting a giant spider was awesome. If anyone knows the Kevin Smith story would probably agree.

Yeah the expectations were raised so high by the creators and studio it was a repeat of Eternals where the film was ok but everyone was expecting Oscar level quality so it got piled on. Also, in hindsight, releasing a few weeks after another Multiverse film that is more loved in Across the Spider-verse was a miss.

12:13 This is almost certainly the result of whatever executive approved the Clooney cameo seeing Spider-Man had all three previous actors reprising their roles and wanted their movie to do the same thing without understanding why it worked. So, basically, the same problem the DCEU has always had.

I had a good time watching this movie. I was disappointed when he didn’t ask Barry “how much do you weigh?” In one scene, but it was redeemed later on.

I was so excited for Keaton Batman but after seeing it I feel they’ve wasted their opportunity to do a third Batman film in the burton trilogy. There was so much story to tell with his older Batman: how he came to be so removed from society and unkempt, what has happened to him in the years since 1992, etc. but because it was in this film it was given 2 minutes and then they move on. I would also add that I hope this Keaton Batman is not the actual Keaton Batman from 89 or 92, but rather a variant from another timeline, because this Batman does things I really don’t think 89 or 92 Batman would do. He only begrudgingly helps Barry; he tells him after they find superman that he’s on his own, then when they find supergirl, Batman wants to walk away and leave her there and it’s only Barry who wants to save her. 89/92 Batman - even an old cynical Batman - would not refuse to help someone he saw who needed help.

Bravo Dan, the honest reviews I got said the same thing

I can confirm younger audiences didn't even know what "Back to the Future" is 😅 Weird to think mainstream were going to get the references to old films like that.

For those who've seen it, if The Flash leaves little room for future appearances of Keaton's Batman and Calle's Supergirl, does it treat Miller's rendition of the character with a similar finality? That is, supposing you didn't know anything about the IRL controversies, what would you guess about the character's future potential from the film alone. Are we to believe that leaving Miller's Barry Allen in Clooney's Batman universe is effectively retiring him?

I suspect they told their effects team to start doing it on the cheap the moment they learnt about Millers alleged crimes. They didn't want to put any more money into it, knowing it was a likely box office bomb/weak release, so that's why there's an odd mix of good effects versus really cheap 90s looking stuff. There was no point in them throwing more money into the pit

man i love this mans reviews

As always, Dan's review was very well thought out and articulated. I do get the impression that a lot of his opinion was framed by the expectation game that he talked about in both his spoiler and non-spoiler reviews. I saw the movie without having been exposed to any of the hype, so my expectations were pretty non-existent... maybe on the low side, given that the DCEU has been more miss than hit for me. As such, I enjoyed the movie. It felt pretty Marvel-esque, with lots of humour, extravagant set pieces, a bevy of extended-universe guest stars, all underpinned by a solid emotional core to lend some weight to the proceedings. I actually thought that the baby rescue scene at the beginning was a lot of fun (I've not seen the Naked Gun movie Dan mentioned, so it reminded me more of the air rescue in Iron Man 3) and signalled that the movie wasn't going to take itself too seriously. (I'm not sure, by the way, why an unharmed baby in a microwave should be offensive compared to, say, the callous and over-the-top violence in most of James Gunn's superhero films and TV shows where people are brutally killed by the dozens in a way that's often played for laughs... a cruel streak in his writing and direction that I hope he tempers in his Superman movie, where it would definitely not be appropriate.) I do agree that some of the VFX work was subpar... for example Batman's cape early in the movie looked amateurish. It's weird to me that, on the one hand, according to reports there's such a shortage of VFX artists in the industry that as a result so many blockbusters suffer from bad FX; but on the hand this hasn't resulted in VFX artists getting paid more. Normally when demand outstrips supply prices go up. But this doesn't seem to have happened in the VFX industry. It's interesting that Dan pushed back against the fan service in the movie, especially in the multiverse sequence towards the end, when he fully embraced the fan service in Picard season 3. I had the opposite reaction. I thought that the fan service in Picard was so egregious it made me lose respect for the writing, whereas the fan service in The Flash fell mostly in the "short and sweet" category (other than the Michael Keaton Batman movie callbacks, which did become a little bit tedious). As someone who used to have a crush on Helen Slater and regretted the fact that her Supergirl never had a chance to team up with Christopher Reeve, the shot of the two of them - even in dodgyly rendered CGI - made me misty-eyed. And seeing Cage Superman battle a giant spider was a chef's kiss easter egg.

The hype did some damage as that cinema score indicates. I saw it this evening. I liked it but I didn’t love it. And thought it was a major downer that Supergirl and Keaton’s Batman were both doomed to die…over and over! The wonky CGI took me out of it sometimes too. Especially the ‘baby shower’ sequence! Just so bad!! Still, some of Grace Randolph’s observations in her spoiler review didn’t occur to me at the time of watching the movie and actually improves my opinion of it somewhat. But in the end I found it to be a rather depressing movie overall, despite the funnier parts. Which I didn’t really find to be all that funny anyway 🤷‍♂️

I did get a kick out of the baby bit lol.

I really don't understand the argument that recreating an image of Christopher Reeve as Superman is somehow "disrespectful." To be an actor is to have images of you playing a character rewatched and reused for marketing and merchandising long after you are dead. The image of Judy Garland dressed as Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz is still being used to make money, not only every time the movie is shown (about a million times a year) but also on all the merchandised items around that film that are still sold. Christopher Reeve in the Superman suit is an image that's going to be used for decades (maybe centuries?) after he has been dead. That's what is meant by the saying, "Film is forever." Given that Reeve loved that role and was proud of it, I don't think he would mind people continuing to remember him that way and to celebrate his perfect portrayal of that character.

I agree the strongest part of the film is the Barry arc, so I just kept wondering why they left the family out of the majority of the movie after the first time he returns home. I kept wanting them to go back and spend time with mom and dad. Doing so would give even greater resonance to his ultimate decision to let her go, and that's saying alot as it already packs an emotional punch. It would have helped the film's pacing I think as well. i realize they needed to stop zod, but still could have interspersed some scenes at home.. for example, mom and dad upset... "where have you been Barry?" All of that said.. miller's performamce was off the charts fantastic. A real talent. Hope he gets help or whatever..in his personal life...

I had so much fun with this film. Just preordered Batman and Flash’s Hot Toys!

Honestly I am really surprised at how mixed the reactions are to this movie. I thoroughly enjoyed it and had no real complaints. Usually when people have big issues with a movie I can see their point, but this one was truly a near flawless film in my eyes. A really good 8/10 movie for me, I wish other people felt the same but I understand we’ve all got different tastes

By putting George Clooney as Bruce Wayne at the end is to get rid of Ezra Miller. Now James Gunn can successfully recast the Flash.

A lot of great points Dan! Personally I would have preferred not to see the writer’s reference to Back to the Future at all, but overall very entertaining, and the nostalgia makes up for its flaws, gotta love Keaton being back.

Given how long this was in production purgatory, I wonder how much better this movie would do, and if the concept would feel less stale 5 years earlier.

I don't always agree with your takes; however, I always appreciate that you explain your reasons - including conjectures about industry decisions. After this review, I am going to subscribe. Good job Dan!

If James Gunn considers The Flash to be one of the best superhero movies, we should be worried for future DCU movies.

the worst overall Batman moment was how terrible Batfleck's blue cowl looks, makes him look like he's got Cro-Magnon pronounced brow under there

I think they may have cut a romance between Kara and Younger Barry. That whole “our children” line played like they got Super busy super fast to me. That would explain her shift and his commitment to saving her to the point of Dark Flashin’. On one hand, it makes sense, on the other hand, I’m glad I didn’t have to see (all) of that… some maybe, but how long were they going to make a Flash movie?

It was narratively confusing because Michael J Fox was still a person in the split universe and Eric Stoltz was Eric Stoltz, just cast as Marty McFly. So they were the same people, just with different circumstances. So how is Bruce Wayne 3 literally different people? How is Clark Kent also Nic Cage, Henry Cavill and Christopher Reeves? It didn't make sense, because Barry was still Ezra Miller in both universes.

Interesting how both Dan and Jeremy praised the Two Barry CGI, saying it is seamless but Stuckmann says it is very notice and can always tell which Barry is CGI

the superman vs spider monster was pretty cool and like being able to know the history of that idea is like really surreal just to know that we could have saw the actual movie on the big screen

My biggest problem I that older Barry didn’t save ANYBODY after the first baby scene. He made such a big deal of only being able to save a kid in the BVS events, and in the new timeline he doesn’t save Batman, Kara, the new flash or the kid or the dad when they relive the BVS scene, he just accepts that entire timeline is doomed, and he just kind of ignores the fact that someone killed his mom and he never tries to find the killer.

I also would have preferred the leaked ending with Keaton being the new Bruce Wayne and Sasha being Supergirl for this universe. But I wonder if that change was made because they wanted an opportunity to put Ezra Miller in their own little pocket Universe they don't have to reference anymore. And that does leave WB an avenue to use Sasha or Keaton in the future without it having to be in "Ezra Miller's" universe. The sacrifice, of course, is an ending that's built on a cameo and not on a payoff

After decades of Batman costumes on screen, I still can’t believe how terrible Batflecks mask looked in the Wonder Woman scene

At the end when Barry’s tooth fell out again, I could’ve sworn that wasn’t the same tooth that fell out earlier 😭like at the end it was his right one but I swore it was his left earlier in the movie (or vice versa)…am I tripping?

Okay I have a weird plot hole in mind: how come the father was not able to prove that he was indeed doing groceries? Wouldn't the cashier be able to testify that he was there?! Edit based on the replies: - I'm talking about back then when he was first convicted - Could be the cashier or any other customer that was there too - He should probably also have the receipt indeed

You have to wonder if The Flash would have felt (for lack of a better word) different if WBD hadn't shelved BATGIRL. But, it seems they decided to follow Al-G. Rhythm's model from Lebron's SPACE JAM all so they could cameo-up as much as possible and exile Ezra Miller to the Clooneyverse where he can't do any more harm.

Maybe I’m a sucker but I really liked this movie. Yes, I started out hating it. I agree, the baby/hospital scene was woeful. I think, however, that each successive scene got better and better. I even exclaimed out loud when Clooney showed up. Maybe I’m just yearning for the simpler days when superhero movies were more often than not really messy but nonetheless most of the time really fun.

"Not one shot looked fake when the two ezras were together in the same shot" I want what he's smoking🤣🤣

The 'Eric Stoltz' bit is a great example of my biggest issue with the movie: You have to know so much about movies that never happened. I think it will confuse a lot of people that aren't aware of those projects. Overall I really liked the movie, but this had me wonder how many people would get those bits.