THE FLOOD vs. THE FLESH THAT HATES (SCP 610) -- Which is Deadlier? | SCP and Halo Lore 

SCP-001 (the gate guardian) or SCP-343 or SCP-1471

SCP-1471 and the shy guy

Flood

Scp content is not well covered at all Way to many scp and interviews and addendums

Make them fiiiiiiiight

Mutations shall be cleansed. Yaldabaoth's blood is no match to technology. _Praise progress_

Kill it with fire is go to solutions for a lot problems actually... Flood- fire( on a fire fight scale) Xenomorphs( from aliens)- fire Vampires( some varieties)- fire( cheaper than silver and you keep them at distance or burn them out of their hide outs) Etc, etc. Such praise be to fire and it's cleasning flames

@@joshuawilliams9020 Just ask ol' Adolf, fire works wonders against a spreading infection! I'mnotinanywayantisemeticsodonttakethatseriously.

@@joshuawilliams9020 Yes fire is great but my only concern is you might burn down everything in a process lol. Like in defensive situation especially against xenomorph since they are smart and adapt. By all means you can still kill them and get the jump on them. But what if just ends in comedic moment where you chase the xenos all round the base and they just decide killing humans isn't worth at this point and escape. Then having to explain to your co why burned half the base down and it was night time and everyone else awoke to fire alarms going off. Like I know 99 percent the time the aliens would die and wouldn't be funny like this. But Aliens universe was to have and comedic moments in it this would be one lol. I am probably being a buzz kill that way but some how I could just a benny hill moment chasing a xenomoroph or morphs lol. I guess to because I saw Robot Chicken parody of the 2 xenos murdering the 3rd and falls through multiple floors and lands in xeno town and more xenos try to lift the injured one on stretcher to an ambulance only to fall through again lol. I know aliens is suppose to be a dark and sinister universe but it needs some funny moments from time to time lol.

"I'll cleanse this bastard's curse!" - Your friendly Cathedral Evangelist, Dark Souls.

Flood isn't like a virus though, it acts more like a bacteria. In fact, it probably isn't a single celled organism at all, because of the hive mind ness. A bit of an edit, FLOOD is called a virus, it just doesn't make sense.

I think that the flood is more powerful out of sheer propagation power But 610 would win against the flood only if the flood had already started and 610 is directly placed in one of the hive masses Because of the way that 610 can reinfect the flood masses Whereas the flood won't because the flood never infects itself even after "curing"

@Emilia Barzini that depends, they really really should says whether the Flood is a bacteria, virus, or parasite, atleast SCP 610 is a Virus and most of the time it's Virus > Bacteria or Parasite

@Emilia Barzini well it won't be if we stay on specifics, but they just had to make it so vague for the flood

@Emilia Barzini well, it looks like you missed my point

The later section of 610 talked about it evolving. We know far more about the flood than we do about 610. The flood appear to have the infectivity advantage.

Only thing that 610 has is that it can re infect a flood infected probably, but that’s a big probably

SCP 610 doesn't need greater intelligence because it's already following the will of the flesh goddess Yaldaboth.

@@Grim_Kherac goddess of flesh and pure animalistic instincts, one of the greatest cosmic horrors in scp universe and biggest threats to mankind, currently trapped but still capable of creating flesh abominations. It and its followers want to turn humanity and whole earths life into those things and of course free it from its ancient trap and bring apocalypse to the world. That is of course short version.

You know why scp world is scary? Its on the same scale as warhammer or even more with the twisted gods and choatic abomination. Halo flood would look puny. 610 is the will of the goddess.

Captain Cutter BuT DoNt wE CaLl InFeCtIoN FoRmS PoPcOrN So your screwed

Hey, I've seen you before. Love your name, especially the picture. Did you draw it yourself?

The Flood consume too.

Dawson Toulouse Thanks! No, i didnt draw it, but I wish I was talented enough to do so.

Check for contamination though

But what if that organism is The Thing and it starts to imitate The Flood at a molecular level? D:

the thing: how it feels to chew 5 gum

Nah man the furry virus well turn the flood and scp and all infections into lustful cartoon 3D animal Humans called furrys..

The Borg: Welp. Guess I have friends now.

Doesn't the flood prefer or is dependent on sentient beings?

James Hunter it's not entirely contained though more like observed closely

It's technically not contained, but they have halted it's growth as far as they know.

Well as far as I know they have a 25-50mile containment zone (sorry the range is so wide)

Well that's because [REDACTED]

Scp 610 cannot be contained only quarantined

Why exactly you think that

Calvinsky Malbert they have the speed advantage and most likely an intelligence advantage.

@@Jessie_Helms true, let's not forget the flood isnt the only one that does posses intelligent just not as much as the flood is

BUT if we're talking about the 610 during the time where they were controlled,maybe they'll have more chance of winning

How about the Malfunctioning Destroyer vs some Star Wars or Halo Ships

The popcorn gets smarter, my bets are with the popcorn

anger meat

pop boi always win. one can wipe the universe

*infinite popcorn bois

Popcorn:consume assimilate Gravemind: *facts and logic* Hyper advanced AI: What do I do lord? Gravemind: _destroy Maethillian, corrupt them all_

I didn't know Gordon Ramsey was related to Cthulhu.

only a true food critic like me can evolve resistances to eldritch parasitic life forms because they are tasty.

@@ethanwmonster9075 We need to talk.

@@ethanwmonster9075 can't me a master chef without learning the basics of eldritch fellet

master chef Gordon what happened to you

Pretty much. Though I can see the two viruses forming a symbiotic relationship.

@Inigo Arroyo Care to explain why the Flood wouldn't do a mutually beneficial thing with 610?

@Inigo Arroyo 1) "Nah" isn't a valid answer. 2) The ability to "take out" a species is not at all an indicator on whether or not a species can form a symbiotic relationship. A crocodile can easily take out a plover bird if it wanted, but those two Species formed a symbiotic relationship. 3) You're assuming way too much. I could just as easily say that the Flood wouldn't be able to infect or consume 610, so either leaving it alone or forming a symbiotic (Or even parasitic) relationship would be preferable.

Don't forget that SCP 610 is a manifestation of the God of flesh Yaldaboath, one of the most powerful of the lower elder gods that battled Mechane at the start of creation. The power of the Flood cannat even begin to rival the power of the god that 610 represents

@@paulmackenan6043 That's in one Canon, not necessarily the truth everywhere. But I was going to bring up that point.

The blod will be good one

Heh.

last time i was this early the flood weren't precursors, and there was no lore outside halo 1

to far man to far

Kreative Chaos Guides you’re wrong. Halo The Fall of Reach released in October 2001, Halo 1 released November 2001. Not only was there lore when Halo 1 released, but there was also lore BEFORE it released.

I gently chuckled, which honestly is more than I do for most comments, you should feel proud.

But Escanor Lord of the Sun is our Lord and Savior!

@@janesguckel8947 Can Escanor fire a several 100 ton Tugnston projectile at a percentage of the speed of light? Didn't think so!

@@HawkTheRed Full Counter!

TheRed Hawk Can the Valiant Super Heavy Cruiser Fire a sun? Hell can it survive a sun?! Didn’t think so!

@@globalchaos5154 it can make one

610 vs zerg vs flood vs tyranids

@@lordmoose213 flood or tyranids win.

The flood would win all the time but i like the zerg their interesting

Necromorphs have left the chat.

tyranids>>zerg in every single way

mark asss brownee

I've kept to the 610 article only.

@@EckhartsLadder that's for the better, because if it was connected to that god ........ Well the .... multiversal god would break free. And start it's consumption of all life again. I would rather face the flood then that thing.

Jason Lee by the way “that thing” is the Scarlet king The most powerful entity in the scp universe Only rivalled by scp 999 (though 999 is a child so he hasn’t reached that point yet) and has been at war with creation itself trying to destroy the multiverse tree So that The multiverse is in perpetual nothingness

@@faresalsayed9005 the most powerful entity in the scp universe is 3812

Funny you would say that, because the floods origins are basically the same, they mutated from the corrupted ashes of The Primordial's: Ancient eldritch gods that could control the universe through a concept called "neruophysics" and had the most advanced intellect and technology to ever exist and could take on any form they wished.

Robert the Dude agree

Yea would've been good as a collab video

Hidden just did a video on 610

682 stalemates most things due to the absolutely insane durability, but fairly weak attack abilities

Assuming other races treat it like the Foundation does, they might win based on just containing it. They dont have to kill it if it can't do anything

@@colin3415 he would adapt overcome and win

682 can be scaled to outer lmao he one shots

He solos most

Zombies... thats an understatement.

@@armorfrogentertainment *well technically if Yaldebaoth wasn't contained by Mekhane SCP-610 would be waaay more powerful than any Keymind would ever dream of since 610 is the will of Yaldebaoth and Yaldebaoth is pretty much a cosmic horror. Also SCPverse has entities more powerful than the most powerful eldritch horrors since at least one is constantly ascending beyound the level of the most powerful entity in existence and then in the existence beyound that existence and so on*

@@danjoredd the Flood has driven people and AIs to insanity simply by explaining their true motives.

scp-610 makes you into a goddamn disgusting flesh

John Carpenter's The Thing: "Hold my beer."

MAC vs Base Star = Loads of space junk Spartan vs Cylon = Cylon head shaped paperweight

Cylons had a hard time with just two Battlestars

Cylon AI vs UNSC smart AI = cylons get a taste of there own medicine.

Cylons have no chance against a force as heavily entrenched as the UNSC The covenant were only able to carve as far as they did into human territory was because they had a much larger amount of manpower than the UNSC by a magnitude of about 7 Also shields that stopped their ships being one-shotted by the UNSC's MAC weaponry

@@danbrown5736 To be fair, a Ron Moore Battlestar is a seriously overpowerful and deadly ship even by UNSC, Federation and First Order Empire standards.

The Defenestrator Then again... Neural Physics.

@@cerebralcloud92 I swear at this point let's just press "F" to pay respects to literally anything that even looks at the Flood the wrong way. F

@@cerebralcloud92 Haha SCP reality benders go brrrrrrrrr

@@ls200076 no no... Haha Dr Bright chainsaw cannon go brrrr

@@xizthexizuchini172 yes Dr bright lol riding 682 GO brrrrrrrr

Brute wins

I wouldn’t say brutes, I’d think elite vs predator would be more even of a match and more fun

@@TheBennyBoi876 Stealth Elites :)

Predator wins armed round, brute wins unarmed (assuming that the predator doesn't get cloaking. Elite vs Predator would be cool

@@CaptAmerica300 That would be so cool to see.

The M6D is an exception, as it was blessed by Shaggy himself with 1% of his power. All future generations of M6 tried and failed to match this, but were never worthy of the almighty zoink the OG magnum recieved.

Jimm Wright it’s great to see dead memes

Fact that even scp 682 can be infected by scp 610

Nice Evangelion image

coming up on infra-red keep fucking going brother. I truly fucking believe in you.

I would like to see the Replicators in an episode but this is not even really debatable (especially if you take Star Wars universe during the time of imperial rule). Replicators are like a machine version of the flood. If you add human-form Replicators it gets even worse for the opponent.

#AskEck coming up on infra-red has a question for you. I don't know id you just don't see him, block him, or don't want to do the video. But answer. Please. Especially force users might be VERY useful against them, so it is not as OP as it looks at the first glance. You'd probably have to sacrifice planet or a million, but having their normal means of taking a ship - boarding party taken away, since Jedi know where the damn robots are, most heavy battleships are safe. And they can safeguard the most important Hyperspace routes, and scan for the robots. They can even increase in density once they are near the systems that are occupied by replicators (like epidemiology says). They could lose, unless they pull a manouver and jump into Hyperspace randomly. THIS STUFF WRITES ITSELF!

Jan Negrey dude you replied to infra-red’s comment. Not Eck’s.

Maybe because the precursors believed the only way to stop the flood was to wipe out all life with halo weapons? The flood retains memories from its victims and grows smarter the larger it gets. Plus your basically fighting zombies who happen to use guns, vehicles, ships, and can convert large spacefaring vessals into breeding grounds of millions without destroying the ship

Hyperfoxeye yeah but 610 comes from a flesh god that transcends anything mortal. The flesh doesnt have higher intelligence either. It acts upon the will of the flesh god. The flood are fairly mortal and have been defeated on several occasions. There arent any examples of 610 being beaten much less shown that there is any effective method of fighting them. Were talking about fairly similar things but the difference is that they are controlled by a god and the other a quasi god.

@@dreadnought_official_YT so are we talking about the god being stronger than the flood or 610 being stronger than flood. Flood have the will to negotiate, even for temporary goals, like teaming up to finish off the prophet of truth. They can plan strategically and can operate the ships they infect. I think in a circumstance of limited numbers, flood can operate better to meet their goals.

Hyperfoxeye sure they can operate better but versus 610 which has connections to an actual transient being that they cant truly be infected by the flood makes them arguably more powerful. Flood must infect host with central nervous systems to be effective and there are examples of 610 not needing a nervous system and not needing a host to have one. The only requirement would be that the host has “flesh” which the flood do have flesh but thats where there is a large gray area. Can a virulent flesh disease created by a god take over a host that is occupied by a very similar virulent disease.

@@dreadnought_official_YT the problem with the god thing is were pitting the god of one universe's flesh against another. Does the god of flesh's realm extend to the flesh of a universe it never created? Either way, including the god makes it more like its the Flood vs a god., rather than the swarm of the Flood vs the swarm of SCP. For the sake of comparison, it is almost incompatable to compare a universe with active gods vs a godless (at least inactive) one.

Agreed. Flood either drown 610 in the amount or combat forms and pure forms, grab weapons and blast everything to bits, nuke 610 to hell and back or obliterate 610 with Star Roads

@@cominguponinfra-red3038 I think the only way 610 could win is if 610 could infect the flood. Then I think the flood is Toast but I don't know that much about the flood

@@xizthexizuchini172 yeah u need to use range tools to containe 610 if flood just Touch 610 its done they got infected flood need to infect nerve system 610 just touch ur skin babay

Like with a lot of these infection oriented match ups, it all depends on whether or not one could infect the other. If you dropped a sample of 610 and a Flood Spore on the same planet, the Flood would win out if it was an even playing field, but if 610 could infect the Flood, and was in turn immune to the Flood, then it could actually stand a chance. It would still depend on whether it could establish its self thoroughly before the Flood could make a concerted effort to wipe it out, however, so even then it isn't a sure bet.

@@screamingcactus1753 One could also argue that the two infections could form a symbiotic relationship. 610 providing a lot of biomass and terraforming an area and the Flood providing a rapid form of infection.

Don't forget that SCP 610 is a manifestation of the God of flesh Yaldaboath, one of the most powerful of the lower elder gods that battled Mechane at the start of creation. The power of the Flood cannat even begin to rival the power of the god that 610 represents

@@paulmackenan6043 ecks addressed in the video that other scps have tried to form a link with 610, however 610 has no correlation with them cuz it came first and hasn't been edited regardless of anything, and plus the flood come from the Precursors which were also godly beings that were around even before the creation of the universe

@Will Fryer 2 Tbh, flood are intelligent enough to identify the threat. Depending on how large their presence is, if it's from a single star then that could still jeopardize a galactic size flood, though star roads could bend the light from the star. The flood might suffer some losses, but eventually it can develop a plan to blow up the star while covering their exposure with ships, metal or some other space faring structure. Remember the photons have to hit you, but if you're in a space ship without windows, just cameras then you can avoid all the harm done by scp001 when day breaks. At a larger scale I think the flood would be intelligent enough to devise such a strategy, and to rupture the star.

My money on SCP employee 😂 they literary contained warping reality anomaly.

@@accessdenied5998 I doubt they could contain the flood tho, not even the forerunners could contain/kill them, they literally had to kill themselves with a halo and all the life in the galaxy just to kill them of hunger, and even after that the flood just came back again lol

@@InkRQ the scp foundation literally contains gods throughout multiple universes the forerunners are nothing compared to scp foundation.

@@imafkingbeastandrewtateise9563 Nah, they literally can't

@@InkRQ yes, they literally can.

Flood crushes SCP-610 in almost every curcumstance.

@@weirdoffendedguy6657 nah

@@weirdoffendedguy6657 do seem research my guy

Actually, the flood would win right off the bat with how aggressive and efficient their spread is. Something he didn't consider in the video is that an infection form can infect any sentient organism as long as they have enough mass or intellect (preferably both), meaning that the flood can even infect SCP 610 _itself_ by swarming its numbers with countless infection forms and flood spores. TBH its not about scale since the flood spreads WAAAAAAY faster then 610 and can transform biomass in mere seconds upon contact. Also since the Flood have _beyond_ superior intelligence to 610 they would be able to form a strategy against it rather easily with how linear and inefficient the virus operates in comparison (for example they could take out all the forms of 610 above with infection and pure forms above ground while literally "flooding" the underground with infection forms and microscopic flood spores to finish the job), not to mention the fact that the flood can use the weapons and technology of whatever species they take over, meaning they could even use flamethrowers or other weapons to destroy 610. And don't get me started on if they have a planetary sized Keymind in their ranks commanding them.

@@Gray-sanity can just assume that the flood can infect scp 610 and 610 cannot be cured and plus we can't just assume that flood wins just because it has more feats doesn't mean it wins we still haven't see 610 infecting a whole planet and becoming more powerful :/ (ps i suck at English)

@@internetzenmaster8952 In Arthur Morgans defense, the Flood has never lost one time on this channel, only coming close by having a 50/50 chance with the Blacklight Virus having super beings, but that's it, every other time was a practical stomp. The only exception being maybe the Tyranids, who won in some situations but lost in others, which many people definitely disagreed with.

Neither did the flood

610 is more related to sarkic cult than the plague doctor

Former is The Thing but It could be the latter as well...

Can I get a link to the tale or article where the doctor creates 610? As far as I know, 610 was created from the -flesh- cells of Yaldoboath.

I think you are confusing something here. The mindless zombies that the Plague Doctor creates are not SCP-610 which is very much its own thing.

That Certain plague doctor sounds familiar *COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH* SCP 049

That’s actually a really good point.

What's stopping the combat forms from wearing a hazmat suit and the flood can use Man-made weapons like nukes and so can heavily damage the scp before it can get into touching range.

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I mean, flood is also god. In the lore, precursors are literally god. But since its a whole different universe we will never know which will win.

Scp 610 can spawn huge heads out of the ground and swallow you whole

And it spreads when something comes in contact with it

Flood only really absorbs biomass and knowledge. Theres not much about 610 that would make the Flood more powerful

True. Got them confused with the tyranids for a second. Though if you combined all three of these things, you'd get a massively ridiculous parasite that could devour galaxies without breaking a sweat, like an eldritch captain planet.

As long as they have a nervous system the flood can infect so

@@donutboy8612 You forgive the flood spores

@@CrazyDutchguys the flood can't infect 610 because it's the will of the goddest yaldabaoth is she wasn't sealed 610 would be beyond power

It's always wins on this channel. It's kinda pointless to even watch these given the track record.

The Zerg would give the flood a good fight if they start at basic levels. If both are at max Zerg's fucked tho

If it was the flood against the scp universe then the scp universe wins literally all the time.

Well 610 no need if they can Snatch u from underground

scp 610 is resistant to bullets

@@chaddelossantos8172 yeah no, the flood takes control over its host's nervous system and will leave the host alive as it was shown in one cutscene in halo. Yet the plague kills its host and then basically restarts the host and adjusts the host in certain ways. The flood needs a nervous system to infect someone, yet 008 only needs a living being to infect, basically a virus. So 008 would infect he flood without a problem, and the flood would be unable to do anything to it or its zombies because the zombies don't have a functional nervous system.

@@chaddelossantos8172 what about 457 the burning man maybe he's nervous system isn't functional maybe he can burn the flood spores

@@chaddelossantos8172 well you see, scp 008 is literally a fucking virus, not a fucking zombie itself, the zombies are scp-008-xx (quantity of zombies). The flood can't infect a virus because a virus doesn't have a nervous system. People like you are really a laughing stock

The vulgan and scpreader (I think) are both also very good

The movie you are thinking about is Ender's Game

The foundation has many agents who are just as good as Spartans.

Lol not have weapon 25th Century yeah right. Let's count how many warping reality weapons SCP Foundation have 🤔, Spartan mehhh SCP Foundation send squad OP squad to containt Spartan, Spartan not even Euclid class lol. Put SCP 096 in UNSC infinity they all dead.

Use BLITs or memetic kill agents.

The SCP Foundation is infinitely more advanced than anything is the Halo verse. The SCP Foundation are one of if not the most advanced humans in all of fiction. They've been able to contain God-like entities which can destroy the Universes and some of them can even destroy the SCPverse. The Foundation even have the technology to kill beings with these levels of power. Here are some feats: 1) They've recreated entire Universes and timelines with the help of SCP-239 2) Survived multiple Universal ending and Multiversal ending scenarios 3) Restarted time and rebooted the Universe with SCP-2000 multiple times 4) Can manipulate reality 5) Shot death itself and caused the extinction of death on a Multiversal level 6) Have MTF teams like Tau 5 Samsara who are immortal cyborg beings made from the pieces of a dead God 7) Sealing and containing off beings God-like beings who are capable of destroying entire Universes, Multiverses, the Tree of Knowledge ( The TOK scales between High-Outerversal and Boundless, since it contains sub-narrative complex, transfinite multiverses with uncountable infinite dimensions and beyond) and everything beyond that. Even the entirety of the SCPverse 8) Capable of Time and Dimensional travel 9) Weaponizing beings capable of ending entire Multiverses and realities 10) Fought the authors themselves 11) Have infinite resources and no financial limit 12) Have massive amounts of SRAs (reality anchors) so they can maintain baseline reality 13) Took on and fixed multiple CK class scenarios. Worldwide or Universal reality restructuration 14) Has some of the strongest reality benders and some Low-Elder Gods like SCP-2845 (The Deer) 15) Has several meta level researchers who can manipulate plot 16) Transdimensional communication 17) Thousands of researchers and sites spread across not only the world but multiple Universes and Dimensions 18) Complete control over all nations, governments and every military 19) 05 Council members being immortal 20) Wipe off memories with the use of amnesiacs if an XK class scenario arises 21) Able to conjure sapient AIs , revive the dead and have absolute dominion on baseline reality 22) Physics and reality defying technology 23) The ability to keep an organization of their size secret 24) The ability to create an infinite amount of Multiverses

@@vm.130 are there multiple canons to the scp verse like you are combining all of them into one

Draxis yeah it would be awesome to see the spear of Adun in a match up

If you've been existing long enough that this is still your state of opinion search up scp antimemetics division for a good time.

I don't think they ever did.

when father protecc boi luke, fall damage extremely op

Kinda sounds like a black-hole? I'd love to do SCP Readings instead of any general Creepy-Pasta, and this SCP seems rather interesting lol

682 absorbs the flood

with 682 it would be over very quickly, landslide victory

@@shadowlock258 true 682 is a creation of the scarlet king and it will start adapting biologically to its foe before even touching them so 682 would develop something immediately apon seeing a infection form.

Flood wins every time, I haven't yet heard of anything that contends with them. I know 682 is very hard to kill, but that doesn't make it unkillable. Obviously there are ways to kill it even just in the SCP universe alone, the page just hasn't been updated for a while. But the flood have access to things like star roads, the Ark, Precursor neural physics, the power to alter space-time, infinite intellect, a mind that can never be destroyed. I know how powerful 682 is, but EVERYTHING pales in comparison to the flood.

@@michaeljcaboose1152 also 682 is decended from a elder God the creature we've seen is merely its avatar and its the son of the scarlet king.

There ALOT of SCP that can beat flood some of them doesnt need effort to do it. Let say the flood lucky cuz 610 the remain of yaldabaoth.

I don't think there's a winner in that situation.

Lmao 682 can change the plot

They'd probably just collaborate and destroy all sentient life togetger...

+@@n1hilanth314 No, he can change *_A_* specific plot. That doesn't mean he has plot reality warpering or whatever, it just means he can change a specific thing that's specially trying to affect him/kill him

SCP 682 VS the gravemind

This comment made me confused mainly because my name is Justin.

@@ocyra2590 it can apply to you as well, I guess

and heretics

Nothing kills 682.

Darthplagueis13 only 1 thing so far.

Dr Manhattan

That's a hard one

Depends on what scale it is on, and who's fighting. If it's the Ork Race vs the Brute Race, then the Orks win hands down. There's too many different kinds of Orks to simply say an Ork vs a Brute.

@@itsyaboidaniel2919 has a point brutes never really United as a species always fighting and never progressed in technology they only could be social when the covenant found them but even the covenant knew they wouldn't be loyal long but the orcs they can unite even with other races

@@user-td3pf1jg6v Well, the Orks basically turn on everyone, which is unfortunate for those involved, but the Brutes from what I remember straight up nuked themselves back into the Stone Age, and learned nothing.

@@itsyaboidaniel2919 yup