Soomehoww, The Force Awakens Is Even Worse 9 Years Later. 

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I had such high hopes for Fin. They took such a great idea for a character and turned him into a walking joke

It was NINE YEARS AGO? Oh my god I am old

RU-vidrs with 1M subs be posting literal garbage but Nutsa's over here in a random corner making gold. A comment and a like for the algorithm.

I'm still so salty about the fact that Jar Jar Abrahms had the opportunity to have a proper character reunion, but he was so caught up in building his own nothing-burger of a mystery box story that we didn't get a single shot of Han, Luke, Leia, Chewie, R2-D2, and C-3PO together in the same room. He had the full squad of some of the most iconic and recognizable characters in film history to date at his disposal and didn't take advantage of it, and the opportunity was gone forever once Carrie Fisher passed away. I think that shows a serious lack of respect for the pop culture legacy that the Star Wars IP had.

Ah, the sequel trilogy. My heart weeps for what could have been.

These films age like milk left outside in the sun

TFA is like LAST ACTION HERO, where Rey, Finn and Poe seem like characters who watched the original trilogy and are cosplaying through the story beats in a filmed improv, as JJ shouts 'member this..?' with a megaphone at every opportunity. It is a love letter to the surface level bait without any vision, imagination, verve, nuance, depth or dignity. It nailed exactly all that Disney Star Wars would ever be... *somehow*

I remember Razorfist saying that disney would ruin Star Wars. He said we would be begging for George to return and he was right😢

I remember when everyone was hyped for new Star Wars content. Now it's just a thing that exists.

For years I've had a couple really good friends say repeatedly that "JJ Abrams is a genius!" only for me to cringe into oblivion. His mystery box style of "storytelling" is just his way of masking how much of a hack he is.

For me, the most telling quote about the movie was from Michael Arndt who did some writing on the film: “Early on I tried to write versions of the story where [Rey] is at home, her home is destroyed, and then she goes on the road and meets Luke. And then she goes and kicks the bad guy’s ass. It just never worked and I struggled with this. This was back in 2012.” “It just felt like every time Luke came in and entered the movie, he just took it over. Suddenly you didn’t care about your main character anymore because, ‘Oh f-k, Luke Skywalker’s here. I want to see what he’s going to do.’” It's telling that Arndt, Kasdan, and Abrams didn't then go "Oh, maybe we should make a better main character" but rather "we should just not include Luke."

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one that thinks the Finn-Poe escape sequence is the brightest spot in the dung heap that is the Sequels. And as usual I'm reminded that Finn and Poe deserved much, much better than what they got.

Weirdest thing about the film is that there is a rebellion. Why? What happened to the republic?

What a girl boss! (I don't mean Rey.)

It's funny what you said about Finn and Poe, because in reality they spend not that much time together, but the entirety of the internet was fixed on them being best bros back then. Everyone had subconsciously reached the same conclusion, we just didn't know.

The reason Finn doesn't make sense as a character is because he's a variation on Han Solo, going through a similar arc. The problem is that he's not motivated by money, but by cowardice, and so his action of returning to Starkiller Base [to rescue Rey, who he barely knows] makes no real sense, and Rey unlike Luke has no father to avenge or friends to join in the rebellion, so her decision to help BB8 feels contrived. And Poe, the combination of Leia's rebel leader and Han's piloting skills has nothing to overcome, and never even meets Rey, because Old Han is filling in that part.

Actually.... Han Solo does not agree to help Obi-Wan and Luke rescue the Princess. They have no idea that she has been captured. He agrees to transport them to Alderaan with "no Imperial entanglements". Which makes it even more realistic.

Nutsa's line at 22:49-22:58 "I would pay to see the discourse between a man who does not have nearly enough ideas and a man who has so many of them if he tries to stand up he might sleep on one of them." That has to be the perfect description for both directors and one of the many reasons why the sequel trilogy fell apart so fast. Keep up the great Nutsa. Can't wait for Chapter 2. Hopefully, you use a rotting piece of fruit as well as an ode to the rotting watermelon.

The Star Wars sequels: one of the trilogies ever made

My nephews and niece saw it before I did. On the opening day. I requested that they didn't give me any plot details. They didn't struggle at all. They saw it and didn't have the irrepressible desire to act out scenes. I had the suspicion that it sucked. When I did see it in the cinema, I was underwhelmed, but noticed that the children who had attended the screening filed out with a complete lack of emotion. I'm too young for the original series. But I remember going to the cinema and watching Mission Impossible and Independence Day. With Mission Impossilbe I was probably humming the song for days. Children upon seeing a film tend to want to reenact scenes. They don't contain their excitement. The sombre faces filing out of The force Awakens seemed damning. Letting Po live was cheap. The ground splitting after Rey walked to her inevitable victory was cheap. And was this the one with 'a story for another time'. A mystery has to tease you and drop enough details to keep you invested. As a standard example of a macguffin, you have a locked suitcase. you don't know what's in it. But maybe you get to see how people react to the contents. If the KGB is chasing the box, you can extrapolate what in it. JJ didn't provide enough clues to indicate that he had a plan. When Ryan took over, there weren't enough narrative threads and clues to prevent him from saying "the box doesn't matter. I'm a genius and now you're going to get crystal foxes that save the day". Disney has to admit there wasn't a plan OR they let the next guy rip it to shreds because they don't know what they're doing.

Another thing I hate about the FA, is that we are set up with this Empire vs rebels again. Why are we starting over again? When we should have to the New Republic vs a remnant of the Empire( almost a reverse of the rolls from the Ot) or the New Republic vs some outside threat. Point being there should be some progress of the state of the galaxy from the OT to after.

One of the worst parts of TFA is how much it relies in coincidence. It's just so ineptly written. It's actually a rarity that plot point A organically leads to B, which is storytelling 101, if not 001. Even in the sequence you praised, they crash land the ship - just by pure coincidence in walking distance from Rey's outpost. Which happens to be in rolling distance (for BB-8) from Lor San Tekka's outpost, who has the map to Luke Skywalker. Rey, who is a one in a billion force sensitive (and who it later turns out is the freaking granddaughter of Palpatine), lives by sheer coincidence that close to him. Anyway they crash land that close? Okay, let's say he could still maneuver the tie fighter enough to fly there - how? From memory? Did Poe perfectly recall the small speck of dirt among the giant desert planet to go there? There is no indication that he has a map on the TIE, nor that he is following a signal from BB-8, which would be easy fixes I thought of for that. You could even gain a character moment out of that last one, where he says something like "he didn't get everything from me" and explains that he has the frequency for BB-8's signal, showing that he has strength of will to resist, but that he also feels a bit guilty for giving anything away, etc. See how you can even profit like that when you just write a better script, JJ? Okay, let's assume he has a map and he could get there when he crashed - how did Finn know where to go? He certainly didn't have access to something like that, so what gives? Finn picked a random direction to walk in and happened to end up in the same outpost Rey is, which is the same outpost BB-8 ended up in. Also, the jacket flew off of Poe and Finn found it, leading to BB-8 recognizing it. The entire movie is like this. One 1 in a million chance after the next, just "then B happens, then C happens, then D happens" and each more unlikely than the next. Just terribly written all around.

I dont even like Starwars... but oh boy do I love watching people talk about Starwars.

It's sad because the sequels had potential. The Force Awakens had potential. Rey had potential. I still think that Reys intro was a great very scene with good atmosphere, and music. I was looking forward to learn more about her or Finn or the First Order. Too bad there never was anything to learn.

I remember walking out of the theatre seeing TFA with a disappointed feeling. I didn't care for the film, but EVERYONE around me was happy and elated. I went home and got on RU-vid to watch reviews and it was nothing but praise/adoration. Was I the one in the wrong? I had convinced myself that they would explain more in later movies but i was so incredibly wrong.

12:29 Finn risked T R I L L I O N S for a girl he met yesterday. One of the greatest flops of TLJ and retroactively TFA was the timeline between films. Both of these films happen over the course of a week. Edit: Kyle XD

As a Nigerian fan of Star Wars since childhood, I am done with disney star wars. All the bad writing, toxic identity politics and antagonism towards fans has just worn me down😒 but i have rediscovered Lucas era shows and movies (currently rewatching Clone Wars by Filoni and Tartakovsky😊👍) and i am now buying the EU novels and loving them❤ The only post-disney stuff i like are Fallen Order and Rogue One. The only ways i twnd to enjoy disney star wars is from watching channels like yours and Mauler make video essays about it😂

@19:25 This guy here, with the glasses. That's Rick Carter, an Oscar winning Production designer (Avatar, BTTF, Jurassic Park). If you read the Art of Force Awakens book he lobbied to work on TFA, and then he spent the days working on it acting like Steve Jobs walking around Skywalker Ranch "inspiring" people by asking questions like "Who is Luke Skywalker" and "What is the Force" and prattling on about "walking dream states", "deep creative mindsets" and "collective unconscious", "guided imagery" and "breaking the walls of imagination" like some fucking new age guru. He wasted time playing word association type games with Kiri Hart and Pablo Hidalgo or would print out stills from Kurosawa movies then had the art department people try to tell stories by rearranging their order, like kids in a kindergarten. He got paid for this, then when the production was about to start he had another guy take over from him and do the heavy lifting part of the production designer job like building sets. Coupled with Abrams being brainwashed by Simon Pegg into thinking that Lawrence Kasdan is some genius that saved poor Star Wars from crazy ol' man Lucas by shilling Plinkett reviews. Up to that point Kasdan was collecting dust under a mountain of Silverado DVDs in some Raiders of the Lost Ark warehouse since the 90s. And Kasdan himself strutting around Hollywood like he came up with Han Solo, when honestly all the Han Solo character development was done in New Hope, and all he did in ESB was pester Leia for a kiss in a hermetically sealed ship. Fun fact, he hated the I love you/I know line from ESB, cause that's not how he wrote it in the script. These f**ckers barely even finished the script in time to shoot, they had no idea for a story, had to visit the art departement to look at drawings of Luke being buried in the sand to be inspired. JJ wasn't itching for a chance to tell his SW idea. He didn't pester Lucas for years to give him a chance. He was minding his own business, sitting on his living room floor building a fort out of his Cloverfield money and then he got a call from Kennedy. He had nothing scheduled, might as well do a Star Wars while you are at it. More money for the north-west citadel of his dollar fort.

Im pretty sure Finn was inspired by Kyle Katarn - former stormtrooper who joined the rebelion and under Luke Skywalker became a Jedi. In EU there was also Alpha, a clone who was given this name by Anakin, quoting Wookiepedia: " It was then that Anakin, uncomfortable with calling him simply "clone," after the ARC tell him his designation, named the trooper "Alpha"."

When I first saw Force Awakens, that 5 minute sequence with Finn and Poe escaping the Star Destroyer really sold me on the film. Their chemistry was so good, and it reminded me of the chemistry between the main 3 characters in the OT. Especially after the Prequels, which - love them or hate them - featured mostly very stoic Jedi characters, the chemistry between Finn and Poe was really refreshing to see at the time. But after watching the whole movie, and especially after watching it a second time, it came off to me as massively over-rated. I still gave it the benefit of the doubt... until the Last Jedi came out. After that I basically just checked out of Star Wars, like many other people.

Great discussion. We hope to see more from this channel.

Truly is a broken promise of what was to come. Unrelated, where was the “misogynist backlash” when TFA and rogue one happened? It’s a bullcrap excuse that has never worked, made to defend the real villain of the story. Our so-called “hatred” is just showing that we CARE about the future of Star Wars. While the creators themselves are the ones who actually don’t. Otherwise, this would never be a problem.

True. All of it. TFA was a mid movie that gave many of us hope. I forgived its flaws when it came out because I was hopeful for what was comming. I have been a Star Wars fan since I was 8, when my uncle rented episodes IV - VI for VHS and I watched these old movies with funny special effects. My uncle told me "These special effects were amazing when this movies came out. There was NOTHING like this back then" and I believed him. But, I fell in love with SW not because of the special effects, but because of the story and characters. Then, many years later I watch TFA, full of hope for what this new story can bring. That's it. A mid movie with no originality or creativity that works more as a promise for something that MAY be, but with very little to no credit in itself. I realized all of this after watching episode VIII, and seeing how something I believed to be impossible became a reality: It was possible for me to dislike a Star Wars movie. More on that when you release your video for the bext movie but I will say this, episode VII became nothing to me after the promise or hope for the future was destroyed with ep VIII. Today, I can't even bring myself to watch TFA. It just feels like a trailer for something that doesn't exist.

Prequels aged like fine wine Sequels aged like milk

Also Po was meant to die! Oscar Isaac said he died in the last 3 movies and asked to live and he was written in.

Algorithm was kind enough to throw this up, had a lot of laughs. After all the serious political and social discourse and back and forth about modern Disney Star Wars, it's so refreshing just to see a video which leaves it all aside and doesn't hold back.

One thing I appreciate when it comes to with this video is that it’s not 8 fecking hours. Thank you for keeping it somewhat short

The first 30 minutes of TFA are watchable for me, the introduction for Rey especially I mean the first 5 minutes of establishing her character and surroundings it’s fine. Probably cause there’s no dialogue and it’s just showing not telling where she lives, her struggle to get food and take care of herself it’s all well done…..Then after that it’s crap. Finns intro was good, and his escape with Po had some good energy. But after 30 minutes it’s down hill from there, empire 2.0 v rebels 2.0 Death Star 3.0, useless republic gets destroyed making the ot meaningless, no Jedi and Luke is away being a bitch. We know the rest, but the first 30 minutes of TFA are pretty good.

TFA is so inoffensive it's insulting? That's new. Love it😂😁

People show too much respect for JJ, when he's the origin of all the problems of the sequels. At least Ryan tried to do something, damn, he made me feel for Rey a bit more with the Rey Nobody thing...

WHAT DO YOU MEAN WITH 9 YEARS AGO??? THIS CAN'T BE ALMOST A DECADE AGO 😭😭😭

18:10 "comes back to life like Paul Atreides..." well he is his dad, so you know...

ive watched so much discourse about movie slop and i can genuinely say this video slaps

I can confirm that LUKE did in fact NOT get any lines in episode VIII. Jake on the other hand....

Remember watching it in the cinema with friends. After the movie we discused it. Ngl I kinda like it, wasn't the best, but decent. One of my friends said it could be a good start for introducing the EU and the Yuzang Wong could be good endgame... Well.

I remember watching the trailer in the middle of class I couldn’t wait.

That piece of crap started almost 10 years ago?

I don't care what other people think of, if Kylo Ren is something remarkable it's because of Adam Driver is a good actor, if Kylo Ren was portrayed by someone less talent than Driver, the character would be notorious bad. But, Kylo, (not Driver) Kylo is just like Rey, only less powerful and less talented, his objectives are lame, the way he said: "I will finish what you started" Does not have any sense, considering that his grandfather decided to join of the dark side was because of love, and at the end he was redeem himself because of that too (That's the consequences of not watching the prequels and the original trilogy), his redemption is not credible, his personality full of flaws and contradictions, his abilities of leadership are awful at the same way of his abilities of fighting, and his tantrums are pathetic. No, Kylo Ren is not the only "good character" from this garbage trilogy. Give the thanks to Adam Driver to make you thought the opposite.

I rarely comment on videos but I have to today, just to say: I love your videos. They’re so funny, well thought out and argued. ❤ I was super excited to watch this one and was not disappointed. Can’t wait for the rest!

"A poop on top of a lamppost. Intriguing shit."

I'm glad you touched on the character motivations. Even when I had googoo eyes for Star Wars being back, this took me out of the story. I've given way too much thought and energy into how'd I'd tweak their motivations to make this story into something I could relate to.

holy crap I didnt realize how early i was to this video, I went to go watch the one about the last jedi

The commentary on Kylo Ren was so scathing that I felt sorry for Adam Driver 😭😂

Kyle Katarn is the stormtrooper turned good guy that preceded Finn that you’re looking for lol

I'm so happy any time a Nutsa video shows up on my feed.

Despite being a terribly written Mary Sue, Rey was the only character in the sequals that felt like a potential character, the rest felt like I was just watching the actors. Finn wasn't a character, Kylo was half a character, Po wasn't a character, even the original 3 felt like Harrison, Mark and Carrie, not Han, Luke and Leah. I loved the intro to Rey, the scavaging looked great, seeing her put on the helmet and wonder about her parents, the set up was all there, but they ruined that almost immediately. Making Luke or Han and Leahs kids the leads, while slowly setting up Rey, her past, and her powers as a plot for a following Trilogy, would have been so much better. I haven't read them in forever, but I have a vague memory of there being some great books about Han and Leahs kids

Honest trailer had it right when they called it “The Farce Aweakens”

9 years? How time flies when you're aggravated.

Nutsa is the advocate for Star Wars justice! She hit the nail when she said that there is no “secret ingredient” to make a movie but to have good writing. Even though the movie was a copy paste of a new hope, there was so much potential, like Kylo and Finn as it is explained in the video, that could have made such an interesting and believable story. With the amount of budget they had, was it too hard to get a good story? Chewie and Leia scene is an absurd example of the negligence the director put into the movie. Let’s say they had time limitations or pressure from the studios (George Lucas did too when he made a new hope and it was an inspiring movie). Okay, invest first in a good story, and compromise the visual effects. But no, they had to have those sick scenes for the trailer to suck money from the consumers disney thinks we are.

The force awakens is the only sequel trilogy film I'm watched twice, since my wife was too ill to come to the cinema and watch it the first time. The first time I watched it I thought: "Well, it's okay, hope they explain some of this background like why there's another galactic empire, what happened to the republic, and who this Snoke person is, since if they don't that would be really stupid." Then I watched it with my wife, and I was honestly board! There was just nothing that engaged my emotions or my interest. By contrast, I've watched the prequels about 7 or 8 times and the original trilogy more times than I can count, but Force awakens just seemed meh to me. I didn't hate any of the new characters, but the only one who really interested me was Fin, and that was more his potential than what he actually did in the film.

My gut reaction to that title was "shut the fuck up, the force awakens was not NINE years ago. Oh my god. Oh my god the force awakens was nine years ago."

No way it’s been 9 years. Time really flies when you’ve accepted that a franchise is dead.

Great video glad to see you back

Your absolutely right about the spoonfeeding info aspect. If Snoke told Kylo "The ball is on your father's ship" we could've pieced it together. But he has to spell it tf out. "The Droid is aboard the Mulenium Falcon, your father's ship. With your father, Han Solo." Or something (sorry for my bad spelling

I dont give a single shit about star wars anymore but the kid in the back of my head that loved the early to late 2000s games and prequel films would say that they really fucked it up and it’s absolutely disgraceful Star wars was the first to fall too, then came halo, then the witcher, etc

I don't even remember subbing to you honestly, but this video was fantastic, excited to see more. Also full of perfect analogies. Even though there's probably technically the least wrong with Force Awakens out of this trilogy, it might be my least favourite because of how offensively safe and derivative it is. Last Jedi is offensively bad in a lot of other ways, but I'd consider it the only one of these movies where you could at least feel a sort of "vision" behind it

The Force Awakens had the benefit of the doubt that it was a "soft reboot" in order to tell a very good story afterwards; back in the day I enjoyed it solely on the promise that they were just setting the ground to do something special. I don't know if I can watch it again after the rest of the trilogy; I would be better of just watching the original trilogy.

Goat back again

Finn should have been the main character because he had more development than Rey in the first movie but was shafted in favor of the girl boss god lady

Your introduction perfectly encapsulates the mentality and experience of every OT&PT Star Wars fan.

4:42 everybody gangsta til Nutsa puts on the British accent.

Always such a pleasure seeing you upload! Hope everything is well and you are doing good Nutsa! ❤

Finn wasn’t original - he was a poor man’s Kyle Katarn tease.

"the force awakens is inoffensive" first time i watched it in theaters, i was freaking offended. They regressed Han's character, separated him and Leia, and then killed him off unceremoniously and irreverently. Then they gave Rey knowledge she shouldn't have had, and had her beat on her FIRST TRY the big baddie who was trained by the most powerful light user and dark user AND also the bloodline of Anakin Skywalker who was biologically a child of the force. We fans came up with plenty of theories for her but la de da we got burned for that now didn't we. The Last Jedi trailer was enough to make me quit Disney. The Mandalorian made me come back and then Book of Boba made me leave again. Not going back again. Even if they actually make something good, it will be too tainted by association.

I’m super psyched for this video series! You always make such awesome videos with insightful takes and brilliant editing

In short, TFA is a copypaste of ANH but without any logic, good characters, with stupid jokes, infinite coincidences, which retconned whole OT: Empire hasn't fallen, Sith aren't gone, Han and Leia are not together, Luke left everyone like a coward, no Jedi order, no New Republic, etc...

Watching TFA gives me PTSD like a torture victim who was tricked with promises of Disneyland 🤢

How dare you make me subscribe to see the conclusion. I feel exactly like how I felt at the end of The Force Awakens, except significantly more entertained. Still, with the dissatisfaction of "wait, there has to be more."

14:42 I LOL'D so loud when you put up the Panda from Kung Fu Panda being stumped as to why... then... OMG! Clever minx!

I still believe they cloned EP4 on purpose, because they needed the Chinese market badly - and they couldn't nostalgia-bait the Chinese b/c they hadn't shown Star Wars in their theatres yet. So they retold the whole original. Great video!

3 minutes ago is crazy

Absolutely love the little animations throughout the video, its a good style.

Another depressing fact about this POS movie: it was the last Hollywood production that the great Max von Sydow acted in. He was such a minor character though, which is probably a good thing as his name doesn't get attached to this travesty. There's SO much wrong with it that it flies under the radar for a lot of people that he was even actually in it. And aye, they shat on a potentially great character in Finn and a talented actor in John Boyega. An absolute mess. If I had the option to drill the memory of having watched this movie out of my head I don't think I'd even take it, just in case I accidentally watched it again after having the memory wiped.

7 views 7 likes? Damn girl took off

Posted at 11pm, Nutsa awake at 11pm CONFIRMED! Or at a different time in a different time zone.

Im 54, was 7 when ANH came out and wow, you really nailed everything. thanks!

Came across this channel randomly and I'm instantly a fan.

This movie really suffered from JJ Abrams saying “alright let’s play it safe and just copy the original movie, but introduce some new characters we can build up later” and then that went horribly wrong. Honestly if the other two movies in the trilogy were good this movie would just be a solid little introduction

The force awakens aged like milk. Loved the movie in 2015, even thought it was a masterpiece but after every rewatch I hate it more and more

You nailed it with the “safe” approach for story telling. Vanilla characters. A main character with no arc. A villain with no reveal. One of the greatest moments in cinematic history is Vader’s confession to Luke.

Enjoyed your energy and delivery in this video (and the script too, of course). Don't have much else to say, good video.

I was always on the force awakens sucks club

In six words, _pretty visuals, plagiarized story, skin-suit._

This was great. Force Awakens is the only one of the sequel trilogy I watched more than once, and yet I still agree with basically every point you made.

I remember watching it a few years ago, and the whole thing felt like a commercial for Galaxy's Edge. Worst part is, I was in my father's fancy camper at the time & it made me feel like I was in a commercial for both of that too. Made me sick.

Nice one ! Last 3or 4 years watching videos like this, is way more fun, than an actual Star Wars content.

I can't believe it's been so long... and my condolences for what you're gonna go through for the next two films again

Chapter I of roasting the sequels to perfection has been fun and I can't wait for the next ones. The thing most amazing to me is just how hated Episode III was when it first released and just how much loved it was a decade later. On the other hand, Episode VII was thought of as incredible when it first came out, but a year later it's just getting further and further burned. Exams here have been dreadful, hope yours go well!

i dont know why i slept on this channel. Subbed.