The FORGOTTEN Final Battle Of The Wars Of The Roses - The Battle Of Stoke Field

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The Wars of the Roses were an English Civil War which changed the face of History forever. During this time the country would be torn between the Houses of Lancaster and York and the throne would be tossed between different Kings and families. It is assumed by most that the Wars of the Roses ended with the defeat of Richard III at the Battle of Bosworth when Henry VII was crowned nearby following Richard's death on the battlefield. However there was one battle two years later that would see the House of Lancaster and the House of York pitted together against each other one more time.
On June 16th 1487, The Battle of Stoke Field would take place. This would be a rather different battle, however was incredibly bloody. A pretender, Lambert Simnel had arisen to prominence and was backed by the House of York as the real King. The boy was around the same age of as the Earl of Warwick who was the Nephew of Yorkist King Edward IV. Lambert Simnel was even claimed King of England in Ireland such was the power of the rebellion, and the Yorkists set off with a huge army from Ireland to invade England.
This would all culminate in the huge Battle of Stoke Field outside of Nottingham. It would be an incredibly bloody affair with the mass slaughter of soldiers upon their retreat. However it would be the final military action and battle between the Houses of York and Lancaster, seeing Henry VII and his Lancastrian forces victorious, and giving further validity to the Tudor Dynasty.
So join us today as we look at, 'The Forgotten Final Battle Of The Wars Of The Roses - The Battle Of Stoke Field.'
Please note - I recorded the voice to this back around 6 months ago. Apologies if my voice over is different.
Music: 'I am a man who will fight for your honour. by Chris Zabriskie'
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@vahgeuvje10 3 года назад

My friend can you do an episode on the Scottish Covenanters? Love your voice and research put into these enlightening videos on British History.

@kirstyyyyy 3 года назад

Fun fact: the name of the earl of Kildare was Gerald FitzGerald... What a lovely name.

@harryzero1566 3 года назад

First notable Irish gay marriage, Patrick Fitzgerald and Gerald Fitzpatrick. What lovely names.

@gazza2933 3 года назад

@@harryzero1566 Yes but Fitz denotes a bastard.

@petergouldbourn2312 3 года назад

I love the content on your channel. Pete 🇬🇧

@4june9140 3 года назад

So well reasearched and interesting

@kurtisgonzales37 3 года назад

I love your content. Keep it up. You'll get ther recognition you deserve... it takes grinding time!

@TheUntoldPast 3 года назад

Thanks for your kind words! I recorded this video a long while ago, so it's been nice to finally edit the footage and bring it to life! Thanks for your support mate, it means a lot.

@gadrian58 3 года назад

One of those knighted on the battle field was Randall Brereton who was also honoured by being appointed Chamberlain of Chester by King Henry VII. When Henry VII died he continued to serve his son Henry VIII. Later 2 of Randall's sons would also serve Henry, Urian Brereton and his brother William who among his many honours and privileges was appointed groom to the Kings privy chamber. Its was this William Brereton who was later beheaded on a trumped up charge of adultery with Henry's Queen, Anne Boleyn.

@Drag0nclaw18808 3 года назад

My family are actually direct descendants from the Brereton's, specifically 1st Baronet Sir William Brereton, who led the parliamentarian forces against the royalists in the battle of Nantwich during the English civil war

@leza6288 2 года назад

Gosh did anyone have a head during Henry 8 time? He had practically everyone’s head cleaved off. Savage maniac!

@kyliej191 Год назад

Thank you for this insight im currently doing my ancestry and find little acknowledgement of my grandfathers the Breretons.

@Rome.s_Greatest_Enemy 7 месяцев назад

Henry VIII was an ahole of a King wasn't he?

@robgunnAK47 3 года назад

Wonderful bit of history told to good effect I had never heard of this battle and you bring it to life like no other. I have fished at East Stoke on the Trent but had no idea about any of this fracas. I have also fished at Tadcaster which is near Towton 1461 much like here the waters of the River Cock ran Red on that day. I have watched a lot of your interpretations now and have enjoyed them all i think your accent helps its perfect for this.

@alancoe1002 2 года назад

If you own a good magnet or metal detector, I would begin at The Red Gutter, and good hunting.

@elizabethspedding1975 3 года назад

Thank-you that was a wonderful lesson, I look forward to the next.

@hashtag415 3 года назад

Why did Warwick cross the road? To change sides of course.

@TheUntoldPast 3 года назад

Classic!

@davidlang4442 3 года назад

Because the chicken did.

@jonathandnicholson 3 года назад

Lord Stanley, too.

@grampiangoldprospecting3508 3 года назад

lol class!!

@heyitsedz1785 3 года назад

👏🏿...👏🏻👏🏻....👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

@johnoakley6362 3 года назад

A very good video which I thoroughly enjoyed, thank you.

@jeeperspeepers8323 3 года назад

Very informative. Thanks.

@tomurg 3 года назад

Great content man. Keep it up and you''ll catch up on history time real soon.

@UltraGamma25 3 года назад

Why is this channel not more popular? Unbiased facts rule!

@crackmanguy1997 3 года назад

I never knew about this battle

@stevebuk100 3 года назад

I was there at the beginning of this year, I live just up the road

@MaverickSeventySeven Год назад

Great, informative presentation!!!

@davidedbrooke9324 2 года назад

Had not heard of this battle. Just shows always something new to learn 🙂

@williamtruitt3346 3 года назад

Great job as usual Love your show. Bill in Philadelphia.

@Dstew57A 3 года назад

Absolutely brilliant video

@justus8040 3 года назад

One of the most interesting and informative history channel , I'm a history buff my favorite subject in school keep up the good work !

@TheUntoldPast 3 года назад

Thanks! You're too kind, thanks for your support!

@horuslupercal9936 Год назад

Not forgotten amongst War Gamers & Historians.

@colinmccarthy7921 3 года назад

I am a Time Traveller.I have seen many Wars.This war at Stoke Fields was crucial victory for Henry.

@alancoe1002 3 года назад

I cannot imagine what your thousand-year-stare must look like! You've... seen too much.

@colinmccarthy7921 3 года назад

@@alancoe1002 I have seen more than a thousand years.I have travelled back to the time of the Dinosaurs.Believe me you would not want to see a T-Rex,believe me. I have travelled forward in time.Humans will be living on Planets in the Solar System.

@alancoe1002 3 года назад

@@colinmccarthy7921 you've brightened my day a bit. Thanks.

@pauljohnson8464 3 года назад

Great video

@griffyn1741 3 года назад

Yes, brilliant video. ... but I thought Black people built Britain? Seriously, a truly informative video and of special interest to me related to Owen Tudor I am told. Big thank you for telling this part of our history in such an exciting and interesting way.

@susanneduffy8157 3 года назад

I thought black people built Britain??? How so? I am curious. :)

@griffyn1741 3 года назад

@@susanneduffy8157 reference Royal Mint, Diversity Coin and accompanying Black British History Teacher's Notes. It is an appalling document for schools mis portraying how important black people built Britain 🤮 . My family's records go back to 1433 and there were no blacks building Britain then. Nor since. Black history in britain is another divisive tool designed to damage our history and culture

@RobertEWaters 3 года назад

When the Battle of Stoke Field was fought, the Wars of the Roses had been over for fourteen years. Its final battle was neither Stoke Field nor Bosworth. It was Tewkesbury. The Lancastrian cause died there. Henry Tudor was in no meaningful sense a member of the House of Lancaster despite his attempt to justify his usurpation of the throne by making that claim. In fact, his claim to the throne was laughable unless it's seen as based on the right of conquest. Not only was his familial connection to the House of Lancaster distant, to say the least, but it was tainted by illegitimacy. Also, contrary to legend, Henry's "Lancastrian" army at Bosworth was made up mostly of French convicts supplied to Henry by the King of France in hopes of dethroning his enemy Richard. Henry's army was no more "Lancastrian" than Henry himself. It's inaccurate to speak of the Battle of Bosworth as part of the Wars of the Roses; only the White Rose fought there. The same is true of Stoke Field. Those supporting Lincoln and the pretender at Stoke Field can be seen as in some sense "Yorkists," since that description at least fit Lincoln., who himself was Richard's chosen heir. But the cause of the House of Lancaster was as dead as a dinosaur except in Tudor propaganda, which included Henry's marriage to Elizabeth of York to "unite" two houses only one of which in fact still existed.

@trailingarm63 3 года назад

So this army of "French convicts" repulsed a large Royal vanguard led by Norfolk, injuring him in the process, and then resisted a cavalry charge of heavy horse so effectively its leader was cut down and killed? What the hell did they do in prison? Gladiator school? Your views seem to owe more to prejudice than common sense.

@maureenelsden1927 3 года назад

The Tudor Rose is surely representative of neither house, since Edward IV was a cuckoo.

@slapeters2004 3 года назад

The stunning amount of lives taken and human suffering caused by the whims of the British monarchs is just astounding.

@beckyfarley60 3 года назад

Not just the British monarchs, it is anybody greedy for power in EVERY country.

@kimberlypatton205 Год назад

Rhys Ap Thomas was an extremely loyal a capable Knight. Hos story is fascinating! Please do a video about his life!

@yaboyed5779 3 года назад

1:17 Rhys Ap Thomas 🙏🏾 This is so forgotten I had too find out about this through The White Princess 👸🏼

@Simonsvids 3 года назад

Sir Rhys is buried at St Peters church, Carmarthen - my county town. His remains were examined some years ago, when his grave was disturbed during renovations, and his right hand was found to be missing. Stolen perhaps years ago as a souvenir as being the hand that killed a king? We shall never know.

@yaboyed5779 3 года назад

@@Simonsvids interesting fact, that’s pretty disturbing, the hand bit. Hope it was while he still living

@susanneduffy8157 3 года назад

@@yaboyed5779 gruesome - much.

@mikewilliamson5093 3 года назад

Why don’t they make movies about our great history rather than the Usual shit the BBC itv and the British film Industry churn out

@michaeltowler2632 3 года назад

The BBC would, but they're still trying to figure how they can slot in half a dozen or so Jamaicans and African actors into their version of an early English battle. No doubt they will succeed.:)))

@macdansav1546 3 года назад

Great film thanks. The footage of the battlefield is particularly good! :)

@TheUntoldPast 3 года назад

Thank you :)

@philcordwell9560 3 года назад

This becomes to confessing a illustration of events and family tree would help.

@robertc2619 3 года назад

What you wanna know on family tree Henry VII had a very tenuous claim on the throne thru his mother Margaret Beaufort who was daughter of 1st duke of Somerset John Beaufort. Who were a bastard line descended from John of gaunt son of Edward III. As hereditary monarchs come thru the male line Henry VII starts,with Owen tudor a minor Welsh knight who, happened to get lucky with the widow of Henry V a french woman with no link to English throne ,they had 2 sons together jasper and Edmund tudor this would make them half brothers to Henry VI without having a royal bloodline of their own, Henry VI Being stupid recognised them as half bros and gave them titles they were not entitled to and also 12 year old Margaret Beaufort as wife to 27 year old Edmund who got her pregnant whole Edmund died of plague in a jail cell Margaret gave birth to a son ie Henry VII. So thru the male line it starts with Owen tudor no Lancaster or plantagenet blood what so ever.

@clintonclay3158 Год назад

This would make an excellent war movie

@grahamfisher5436 Месяц назад

Grew up in Newark Behond an Incredible history And yes, so much that most folks dont know of happened and is "kept" there All Very close to my family... My mother's maiden name is Storer If you Google Storer coat of arms ( knights helmet) And then Newark coat of arms You'll see the Storers COA is part of it.. We're the knights templars 😊 And we have one of the most famous Mottos- Dum spiro spirum While I have breath I HOPE Newarks motto is - DEO FRETUS ERUMPE” - (referring to the Civil War period and translating as) “Put your trust in God and sally forth”. I feel it flowing through my veins

@Rome.s_Greatest_Enemy 3 месяца назад

Damn very very few channels cover this epic showdown... dunno why

@grahamfisher5436 Месяц назад

I grew up in Newark ( in the castle inn) Newarks history is Fascinating You might enjoy watching on RU-vid - Newark under siege

@huswsimonbla 3 года назад

1:31 with that quick change of portrays I thought for a second that was Elizabeth of York and then thought "man Henry the 7th really took a hit for the team (or England) there" lol

@gdaymate7316 3 года назад

The corn must grow tall with all that blood n bone.

@c.norbertneumann4986 3 года назад

The battle of Towton cost approximately 30.000 soldiers' lives. It was the bloodiest battle to ever take place in England.

@alancoe1002 3 года назад

Towton was 9-10 thousand tops. Bad enough. Modern archeology and a bit of maths have put paid to the inflated numbers, but who doesn't want a Guiness record. The 28,000 dead at Towton is stubborn and widely believed. The legend is "better" than fact, gets the clicks. But that's human nature for you. Cheers.

@Happysecret180 Год назад

@@alancoe1002 cool story bro

@roydullman6952 3 года назад

Thanks again, really like the video

@TheUntoldPast 3 года назад

Thank you :) Thanks for your support!

@tenlittleindians 3 года назад

I know an old man here in the United States that claims to be a relative of the man that funded England for that war. He claims England still owes him and his relatives for that war. I wonder if anyone has tried to calculate the interest on a loan that old?

@joergmaass 3 года назад

Interest in the 15th century was around 25 % p.a. and around 10 % p.a. after that. Calculate for yourself. A German author named Andreas Eschbach actually wrote a book around such a scenario, in which an old Italian bank serves such a loan for the poor descendant of an Italian trader from the 15th century, who becomes a trillionaire overnight. It is called "One Trillion Dollars". Check it out!

@tenlittleindians 3 года назад

@@joergmaass It's hard to put a value amount on the entire country of England. Without the backing for that war there would be no England!

@alancoe1002 3 года назад

I'd tell him to piss off due to statute of limitations. But I don't know if that's a thing in the U.K.

@Altiveda 13 дней назад

My ancestor was knighted at this battle very cool.

@BigMrFirebird 3 года назад

15:15 dude, that's a painting of Tewkesbury 1471.15:35 Towton, 1461. The Earl of Lincoln's sword, recovered after the battle, now forms part of the City of Lincoln's civic regalia.

@josh656 3 года назад

Cheeky Henry VII

@annescholey6546 3 года назад

As in Black Adder

@fatnsassy99 3 года назад

Did henry VII have a lazy eye? What we would now call a lazy eye, I mean.

@homerfj1100 3 года назад

He had a "cast".

@alancoe1002 3 года назад

I've wondered at that description, too. A 'cast' can mean many things. He could have even been blind in one eye. Later in life, he had difficulty seeing to read and right, and was known to fear blindness. It may well be that his only working eye was failing. Unknown.

@peezebeuponyou3774 3 года назад

Wars mate- it's 'wars', plural. Seems like a small thing, but it undermines your authority on the subject. All round a very good video.

@michaelmanning5379 3 года назад

12:55 miniature wargame . . . I want to play it!

@terryoneill9525 3 года назад

light in the sky, the first time i have heard this ,i wonder who is thinking the same as me, did people in eu countrys had seen lights or any where else in the uk

@mikesaunders4775 3 года назад

Yes, thinking the same thing.

@sirwi11iam 3 года назад

Aliens?

@beckyfarley60 3 года назад

Supposedly there is a UFO in the Mona Lisa. JS

@venomshadowzzz2556 Год назад

Battles like this and Northampton need more light shed on them

@trailingarm63 3 года назад

You're right to raise the profile of Stoke Field, it doesn't get much attention. But there are lots of assumptions in your analysis of Bosworth. "Intense fighting?" Debateable, it didn't last long, a few fierce exchanges between Oxford (rising Lancastrian star) and Norfolk (brave but too old to be leading Richard's vanguard) before the cavalry charge. I think the charge was brought on by desperation when Richard realised half his army didn't really want to fight for him. As to the Stanleys' decisiveness, that's also debateable: they certainly steamed in when the outcome looked assured but did they decide it or merely book their seat at the winners' table? You mention Rhys ap Thomas, an extremely able man, it looks as though his retainers did for Richard as they were acting as Henry's bodyguard. If the Stanleys were so decisive how come they didn't get to Richard first? Finally, the Stanleys' army was formed of their own retainers, a large private army certainly, but I wouldn't call them mercenaries. Enjoyed the video and have subscribed.

@jimbegin6554 3 года назад

Epic!

@robrob9208 3 года назад

This is great where do you get these from

@TheUntoldPast 3 года назад

Filmed by myself! The stories are out there!

@henkstersmacro-world 3 года назад

👍👍👍

@elbertderf803 3 года назад

who is the one Danny Devito played in the movie?

@michaeltowler2632 3 года назад

You've mentioned about the Yorkists being peppered with arrows and later their bodies looking like hedgehogs they had so many arrows. Didn't the Yorkists have bowmen too or is it not so many

@PeopleMakePictures 3 года назад

How things would have changed if the fight went the other way... and imagine telling the the youth of today to grab your sword and prepare to die in a field...

@theotterguy 3 года назад

I've seen many pick up a rifle. Were you there?

@robertc2619 3 года назад

You are mistaken about a crossbow piercing armour ,I've, viewed an experiment with the longbow at close range on armour and ur lucky if it leaves,a,dent also the arrow snaps off at wooden shaft and travels upwards ????

@erniemiller1953 3 года назад

aVALON hILL MADE A GAME CALLED, "kING mAKER" BASED ON THE wAR OF THE rOSES. iT WAS A ROUGH GAME TO PLAY DUE TO MANY QUESTIONABLE RULES.

@jameswight6259 3 года назад

Still got my set, up on a shelf. Only ever played it once (due to a lack of willing players) but I remember really enjoying it, hence while I’ve sold other games, e.g. Cry Havoc, I’ve hung on to that one. That was over 30 years ago. Really should get it down and dust it off. Thanks for the nudge.

@superfansrock 3 года назад

Why r u not monetised.

@ianpodmore9666 3 года назад

"The fighting was murderous" is a bit like saying the water was wet.

@PAPITO_49 3 года назад

Is that the war with Michael Douglas and Katherine Turner.

@turtleonahottinroof8734 3 года назад

Damn Phillipa Gregory and Starz! Mislead again by historical romance and deceptive cable drama! 🖖🐢

@columbaiona3081 3 года назад

If Lambert Simnel was an imposter then why did so many Yorkists back him as the ruse would have been blown anyway? They would have been better off staying in Ireland & build up their strength here and wait for Henry to make the next move...

@neilbuckley1613 3 года назад

The leaders did because the real intention was to put the Earl of Lincoln on the throne and discard Simnel.

@columbaiona3081 3 года назад

@@neilbuckley1613 Had the EOL any better claim to the Throne of England than Henry VII ?

@voiceofraisin3778 3 года назад

@@columbaiona3081 All of the good claimants were dead, all that was left were factions. Whichever faction won, then they became 'legitimate' because everyone was just too tired to argue, they wanted peace and a chance to rebuild.

@fairychangeling8337 3 года назад

I find it wierd that when they found Richard iii they dna tested him, but they never did dna of those bones under the staircase.

@alancoe1002 2 года назад

Different circumstances of discovery. And jurisdictions.

@fairychangeling8337 2 года назад

@@alancoe1002 well of course Richard iii was found under a car park and the skeletons were found under the stairs. And jurisdiction isnt really a big deal in england. So I'm not sure what your trying to say.

@alancoe1002 2 года назад

@@fairychangeling8337 it's a huge deal in the UK. The Prince's bones in the urn in the Henry VII Chapel at Westminster are what is, in law, a Royal Peculiar, totally the property of Elizabeth II. She does not like royal bones meddled with. Richard the Third's bones were found under more mundane circumstances: a car park. A world of difference, as it turns out. By the law. That's how he got autopsied and the Princes will not be. For now. And by law.