@ForeverYoung2708 Not really. A doctor can kill his wife and still be compassionate enough to care about life. If someone hates (or loves) another person enough to kill them, that doesn't mean they hate everyone else in the world.
@Stacy_Smith True, however you can see Sam Gerard pondering about it at the end of this scene. It doesn't quite fit the narrative of a doctor who kill his wife in cold blood for insurance money.
Best lines in the film are either "I didnt kill my wife - I dont care", "You're a doctor do something", "Can you think me up one of those chocolate doughnuts with some of those sprinkles on them" or "I don't bargain"
@@insignificantaftermathPROJECTS Those are funnier or more clever lines... but they don't cause the film's most visible antagonist to visibly rethink his position.
At this point Gerard starts to question his guilty. Great psrt of this film. I saw this film with my dad when i was 13. Man I thought about it for years after that. Just a masterpiece film.
This and the meeting with the one-armed man "He's dirty" - Gerard are what get him to start questioning, but he doesn't let up one bit despite that. He has a job, he's gonna do it. Only once he finally pieces the last bit together about Dr Nichols does he start to truly believe he's been chasing an innocent man, but he still pursues him - but with a new drive to capture him alive and help to defend him against those trying to kill him.
Life is not Black or White. People are not Black or White. A doctor can still be a killer. Gerhards job is to catch a fugitive. He do not know and he do not care if Kimble is a killer or not. But he learn all the time. And use it like a net.
I absolutely love this movie. 2:33 stands out most from this scene. That pause speaks volumes. Try to imagine how overwhelming it must be to get a small piece of your life back.
Love the music specifically when he’s signing the papers. Really sells the fundamental decency of Kimble in that moment. A good man doing the right thing despite the risk to his own freedom. Marvellous stuff.
It's basically the turning point. Kimble's prerogative was to avoid detection and keep moving. He had no reason to interfere with what he was asked to do but couldn't help himself because he knew the diagnosis was wrong. This ultimately gets him caught. But when Gerard learns that Kimble basically sacrificed a chance to get away to save someone's life, he starts to realize Kimble might be innocent. This ties into an earlier scene when a reporter asked the police something to the effect of "Kimble keeps doing all these good things for people, maybe he's actually innocent?"
Gosh I LOVE this scene. Killer movie, but this scene get me choked up every time. This, and the scene near the end when Tommy tells RK that he knows he is not guilty and why. So good and top notch acting.
Pretty great performance by Julianne Moore in this small but memorable part. She knew the initial doctor order was wrong but she also knew Kimble was off somehow. You can see on her face at the end that she’ll be processing all that for a while.
@@vimsmahadevan1120 Reason for that is they thought it wouldn't make sense for Kimble to have a love interest during the time when he was trying to find out who killed his wife.
@@sirleo5103 It's actually a unwritten rule/law to not pretend and medically assist in a medical emergency. As crazy as it may sound, you can actually be arrested for doing so. Like Richard was almost here but in this case, he was an actual doctor. 😆
I love this scene! It gives Richard a chance to relive a part of his old life and to make a difference and save a life again. The look of relief on his face when he realizes that he saved the kids life is palpable.
The marshall is a great detective. He goes deep into the mind of his quarry to think like him so that he can predict his next moves. When he gets into Dr. Kimble's mind he can't help but start putting the pieces of the murder together right along with him.
Kimball looks like he belongs. He's just another guy wearing a uniform. He doesn't stick out, he just kind of looks like everyone else. Ironically this is the best way to evade detection. Trying to dress like a ninja, appearing like you're nervous to be there, anything like that makes you stick out and can get you caught. Meanwhile if you have self-confidence and just walk around normally (holding a clipboard helps a lot, too), you'd be amazed how little attention you'll detect. There's actually a RU-vid channel where guys do this. They will have clipboards, wear hard hats, or hi-vis vests, and just walk right past security. One of them even managed to get into the Super Bowl.
In another world, in a sequel, Kimble would have returned to work at that hospital after he was found innocent…. And he and that beautiful doctor would have ended up together.
Watch the video about the making of the film. The origin story line had them get together, but they changed the script determining that it was too soon after his wife’s death and audiences would not like him as much.
One problem with that: doctors convicted of felonies lose their licenses after being convicted of a crime. He changed the orders for that kid to have emergency surgery. He practiced medicine without a license which is a felony in many jurisdictions
@@Onecooltop75you’d have to prove he changed the order? He doesn’t admit to that when she asks who changed the order. And his conviction is overturned following the ending I would assume
In the original version of the script - he becomes lovers with this doctor (Juilanne Moore) and hides out in her apartment! Also note Ford's limb? It's real he hurt himself making the film.
@@charlesgknight yeah, the director apparently looked at the old episodes and said “No way we’re doing that. The guy just had his wife murdered.” The actress was a bit disappointed.
Does anyone know the details of the kid's true injury and what surgery Richard ordered for him that saved his life? I know it isn't crucial to the plot and the point is to display Richard's empathy, which is not a quality that someone who would end his wife would have, but I've always just been really curious.
Yeah, most likely punctured lung from a fractured sternum or rib. The fracture probably punctured the kid's pleural cavity, lung, or both and caused internal bleeding, making it hard for him to breath. So, he was taken to surgery to stop the bleeding and drain out the blood from his lungs (thoracostomy). 🤷🏼
Probably a fractured sternum and/or a tension or hemo pneumothorax is on the way, if it’s not already there. The Doctor auscultating him didn’t seem to find any decrease in air movement/volume on either side or an obvious flail chest, but given the mechanism of injury and how this boy is presenting, he needs urgent medical care. Besides that, the Doctor/Nurse didn’t auscultate properly, given the pt’s supine position. He at least needs to go lower to the bed and toward the pt’s flanks with his bell on either side in order to hear the lowest anatomical parts of each lung. I’d be watching for tracheal deviation, increasing work/pain on resps, decreasing O2 sats and breath sounds when auscultating the affected area and (worst) bloody sputum. Certainly, given the mechanism, I’d be extremely suspicious of injury to the heart as well. Cardiac Tamponade from direct blunt trauma to the chest (left anterior side, by the looks of it) would definitely be on my radar screen as a secondary diagnosis or comorbidity. Beck’s triad would be a trend I’d be watching very closely for when gathering his vitals every few minutes, as his ticker probably took a big hit. If I had the time, a 12 Lead ECG wouldn’t hurt, but that’d be lower on my immediate priority list. Managing shock, oxygenation, blood loss and respiration are the keys here. He needs blood/fluid, and probably at the least, needle decompression on the affected side to restore lung function and counteract the pneumothorax, and if not just that, high flow O2 delivery by NRB or assisted vents by BVM. A blunt force aortic dissection would certainly be a significant concern, but if it had torn completely, he wouldn’t have even made it to the ambulance alive. That said, if his BP suddenly went into his boots and he up and died, that’s what I’d bet had happened as the rupture or aneurysm evolved and suddenly let go. No surgeon in the world could save him then. Scoping, CT and ultrasound for the rest of the organs once he was stabilized. I’d bet a fifty that there’s at least splenic, kidney, pancreatic, diaphragm or transverse intestinal damage there as well, to say nothing of the obvious fractured ribs. The liver’s primarily on the other side, but I’d definitely check that sumbitch as well, as it’s big and bleedy and just LOVES to get hurt in these types of situations. Then there’s his brain. That’ll DEFINITELY need a CT scan as well for any kind of bleeding or bruising. The last thing anyone wants is a surprise seizure brought on by a stroke. It’s a really, really nasty place to suffer high acuity blunt trauma, given all the squishy major organs, some of which aren’t completely protected by the ribcage. He needs to be on a surgeon’s table post haste, with several respiratory therapists there as well for emergency airway management. Finally, and I know they’re triaging quickly given the mass casualty incident here, but this pt. is absolutely not by any means “stable.” I’d give him a pretty dark red card on the triage scale system just by knowing what happened and by looking at him. As a paramedic, if I were in the field with this kid, I’d collar him, perform all the treatments listed above that I could as were needed, prepare for the ones that I’d be expecting, and get this kid to a Lead Trauma Hospital ideally by helicopter or, if no helo available, good old fashioned diesel afterburner therapy in my ambulance. I definitely would not be fucking around on this one.
@Ubermensch6969 Okay, NOW I finally understand why they didn't specify in the film. All of that would have been completely unnecessary for the plot. 😆 But I appreciate your reply. It was a really interesting read. ✌️
The Fugitive is one of those geat films where both the antagonist and the protagonist are very capable and intelligent, both of them have good intentions, yet they're constantly facing off each other.
@@locutus99 Gerard is harboring doubts, but is no less committed to doing his job. He's been tasked with nabbing Kimble, he's gonna do it, despite his reservations. Given his many years of experience, this probably wasn't the first time he's been tasked to nab someone whose guilt he doubts. But he's a soldier in a bigger system, he does what he's told and trusts that the system as a whole works.
I am a thoracic surgeon at Indiana University Hospital in Bloomington Indiana. I was bored and and for two weeks I cleaned the bathrooms on every floor of the facility for those 2 weeks. I was stopped by the head of housekeeping because I did not have proper ID on my shirt. They accused me of impersonation of a surgeon. In a moment of desperation I ran, and the police report states that during the 2 previous weeks, the toilets were clean enough to use them as serving trays for spaghetti.
One subtle detail was that he could have easily overpowered Julianne Moore's character or just ignored her and walked on, but he stayed passively until the absolute moment he had to go.
Doctor Richard Kimble is many things, he is a good man, a good husband, an excellent doctor, and a man of compassion and grace. However, he is not a very good liar. The doctor who is confronting him does not know the what, the why, or the how, all she does know is that he is lying about it.
I heard he had serious reservations about this movie. But I've also heard they made a lot of changes to the screenplay over the production and deleted a lot of scenes. Also, Tommy Lee Jones' iconic "I don't care" was improvised. You get enough talent together, they'll make anything better.
@@jonathanvaux2715 Jones did his research before the shoot, following real agents/marshals, learning how they thought, talked. He would object to things Gerard had to say or do that didn't make sense to him, and the director let him wing it, so we end up with an incredibly consistent, compelling character who's so lived-in and believable. The original script called for a romance between Kimble and Julianne Moore's doctor character, and even a tense romantic triangle with Gerard. I don't even know how that could have possibly fit into a film this propulsive, this tense, where every in-universe second is so critical. But movie formula says romantic side stories are useful if not necessary; maybe even some stupid condescension like "we have to have something here that would appeal to women, they won't be interested in all this man stuff." Someone finally saw reason and cut it out, but I don't know if they had already filmed it. Any film, not just Ford's, can really benefit from thoughtful editing, provided you have thoughtful people making them. Get a director who can think on their feet and be flexible and open-minded, a cast who are invested in their characters enough to put in the extra time to learn how they became who they are, and executives who will leave the art to the artists and trust they know how to make good art. Artists make art, businessmen sell it.
This was the turning point for U.S. Marshall Deputy Sam Gerard, If Kimble was guilty then he likely would’ve killed this boy. But he’s a doctor and he saved this boys life, that awakes the sense that Kimble is not the real murderer of his wife.
Kimble risked getting caught to save this kid's life. A selfish, hardened criminal would have been fine letting the kid die so as not to blow his cover. He's a real healer that values life, not a killer.
@@locutus99 That's kind of what they meant. Kimble's motive was to evade detection and keep moving. Posing a janitor who "does what he's told," there was no reason for him to do anything except what he was asked to do: take the boy to the operating room or w/e. Instead, he suspected something was off with the diagnosis and changed it. This caused suspicion and led to him getting caught. It sacrificed a clean get away, but he couldn't let the boy die. And at the same time, the doctor couldn't ignore what he did. Kimble saved the boy's life. It actually ties into a throwaway line earlier in the film, when a reporter asks the police chief something like "Kimble is doing all these things that are helping people, doesn't that suggest maybe he's innocent?" and the police just dismiss the comment. Then later in the film, you see how the police aren't interested in challenging their own assertions, unlike Gerard, and just want to effectively murder Kimble.
I know the kid's injury was caused by a bus accident. But, what do you think he collided with? I mean, in order to get such a severe chest injury? And that large red patch?
if you need a backstory, and I don't know why you do, the kid next to him was holding his pencil upsdie down and in the collision impaled his seatmate.
"Stat" in medical jargon is "immediately". That kid's life was in serious and imminent danger. And thank the maker in this case for unreadable doctor's signatures. 😅
Don’t the policemen see and heard? He’s not the killer. He saved the boy’s life. If he’s a killer, he could have killed him. But he didn’t. He’s innocent from the start
exactly those two asshole detectives just automatically assumed Richard killed his own wife just 2 claim her life insurance policy. Gerard knew something didn't add up which was why he allowed for Kimble 2 "relax and reenter his life somewhere."
This is a very interesting point that was raised during both the book and the movie and becomes one of the important themes. Basically, the explanation is: US marshals are not in the profession of determining innocence or guilt. They assume that the judges have done their job correctly and that the person they are hunting is guilty. To expect them to determine his innocence was to expect them to go beyond their job and authority. The possibility of him being innocent was raised once. Gerard shut it down as “that’s not our job.” The fascinating art of the movie is that IN ORDER TO DO their job and capture Kimble, they had to follow the breadcrumbs trail Kimble was setting, and determine his innocence IN ORDER to locate where he would be next. And once they discovered him and captured him, they treated him not as a hardened criminal, but as an innocent; his handcuffs were taken off, and an ice pack offered by Gerard for some bruised fingers Kimble got fighting the criminal mastermind.
I think I've seen it once. I can't imagine it's a thing at most hospitals but it's implied this is a huge one that needs things to be moved around as fast as possible. BTW on a totally unrelated note, some of those large container ships will have employees bike or roller blade from one end to the other given how long they are.
They filmed this at a real hospital in North Carolina. My mother in law worked there at the time as the hospital coordinator. She got to meet Harrison and she said he was an asshole…
FBI agent Sam Gerard was out of his jurisdiction. The case was supposed to be a State case with the jumpsuit printed Illinois Department of Corrections.
Sam Gerard is a US Marshall. If the suspect is believed to have crossed state line, US Marshall and FBI both have jurisdiction here. Remember last year escape prisoner case from Indiana with the help of the female sheriff, both FBI and US Marshall were on their trail.
@@fumblebeesme5292 Samuel Gerard is a Federal Officer not a State. The fugitive was interogated by the city of Chicago police department,convicted in a state court and put in a county jail,ready to be transferred to the Illinois State prison. If the fugitive was a Federal suspect then he falls under Federal jurisdiction.
@@hopenavajo1391 From Wiki: "The Marshals Service is primarily responsible for the protection of judges and other judicial personnel, the administration of FUGITIVE OPERATIONS, the management of criminal assets, the operation of the United States Federal Witness Protection Program and the Justice Prisoner and Alien Transportation System, the execution of federal arrest warrants, and the protection of senior government officials through the Office of Protective Operations."
Here would have been an even better script. Doctor: "I want to know who changed that boys' orders?" Kimble: "I did! I'm Doctor Richard Kimble, former Chief of thoracic surgery and if that doesn't get to surgery he dies."
@@jessicaregina1956it could be possible that he also studied that subject. Also why would he give that doctor his real name when he is wanted for murder?
that would be funny if they arrested him at the end and say, we know you didn't kill your wife, but that stunt you pulled in the hospital is a felony, you're under arrest
Kimble commits multiple crimes throughout the film. Escaping from the prison bus, stealing the ambulance, etc. In reality he would not have been immediately exonerated, he could very well be returned to prison for all the new crimes. Of course, he would most likely have all his charges dropped especially since it's implied during the film the police were incredibly negligent, bordering on corrupt. (Basically, it could easily be construed they were covering up for Sykes, a former cop).
Don't you think someone ought to have provided him with some comfort? At least rub that chest to soothe his nerves.... which were probably badly shaken? I mean, without completely ignoring him like that.... when the poor kid was obviously in so much pain. 😢😢
Do not touch an injured chest with possibly very fragile and damaged organs in there! If it was an aortic tear! Going into surgery meant he would be under very soon. He tried to distract him from the pain with inane conversation.
@@TomNovak2113 Oh okay. May be if he had something like a heart attack or some other heart condition.... it would've been alright to touch it, or isn't it?
@@TomNovak2113 You can see he wrote something that started with Ao, a case of chest pain after trauma (fractured sternum?), and he was a vascular surgeon. I bet you’re right, it was an aortic dissection.
This younger tall bald afro dude with big eyeglasses dressed in red hospital uniform is roller skater which is roller skated with his high white socks in his black roller skates with red wheels and how he is stronger pushing away to foward with his white socked feets in his black roller skates and he slided with roller skated what is very practic and very fast mode of transport trought hospital because this roller skater dude is roller skated with his high white socked feets in his roller skates because his white socks are most comfortable and soft but only defect of this mode of transport what this dude is fast slide with roller skated with his white socked feets and how he spend whole shift roller skated with them in his roller skates they become sweated and dirty with black trails of dry swated but on fortunanetly nobody see that and this dude is fast medical worker and not some hick which is roller skater with his dirty white socks
