Thanks, I have always been a hands one person. I was 5 when i build my first gokart from old strap lumber and a old lawnmower some one had left on a curb.
Great job on the redesign and the new one. Love the sonar opening and the shallow v catamaran hull. I watch a couple of videos on the new Bonafide SS127 that has a very similar cat shape and thought it would be a great design to incorporate in my next one. Great minds....lol. Nice job!
Thanks that means a lot coming from you! Your Battleyak inspired me last year. That semi v cat hull was as close to the bonafide as i could come. I found a video where they had one turned over and did a full walk around of the underside. In fact the outline is also from the bonafide I printed out a life size top view and laid that on the foam sheet to cut it out. I had to add a point to the front since i didnt think i could do the squared to point front of the bonafide. I also love the sonar area. It comes in handy even if you dont have a sonar. Brandon used his all day to soak rags or get water to rub on his sun burn (poor boy insisted on wearing a muscle shirt his first day this year fishing lol). Ill be adding a 2 part dry pod/cup holder to his later till we can get him a sonar. My only lesson learned on his is that i would make the bottom 2 sheets thick overall then add the semi v and runner parts on that. Mainly because his deck is sits about even with the water line. I prefer my deck to be higher for self bailing. Right now i have a extension being glued up to raise the walls of his pod area so water doesnt splash in. Since the water was only about 2.5 from the top of the well he had some water get in if he bounced around (try asking a teen not to be bouncy lol). The extra 2in think would not hurt anything and add even more rigidness which was a issue in the unskinned float test but went away once it was decked and skinned.
i just want to acredit you for some inspiration. ill link this video when i go to post it but the in built wheel system got me thinking what if the in built stuff was for an ebike so yeah im using some of the technique you showed here to make an amphibious ebike literally have everything here but some extra glue might get some more foam too but this looks like it might work cheers
Thanks i appreciate that!! I ended up having to modify the built in wheels after 2 years of heavy use they had wallowed out there holes. I ended up bolting all the way through the hull with a backing plate where they can through the side runners. That mod is still going strong.
Brasil! Meus parabéns pela bela iniciativa na construção desse ótimo Kayak. Vou fazer um também a partir desse vídeo; Parabéns! Deus lhe abençoe com saúde, paz, amor, fé e muito anos de vida.
Tem vários vídeos de caiaque isopor e fibra brasileiros, comecei o meu em 2014, estou pensando em fazer mais um, pra fibrar o isopor com resina ortoftalica tem que revestir com jornal antes, no final acaba pesado, o próximo quero fazer com tecido de fibra de vidro e resina epóxi direto no isopor.
Doooood!! ..awesome build and idea of using foam...I have a question:...can I use the poor man's fiberglass method to put on the bottom of my 14 ft wooden kyak I am building???....I want to paint the bottom hull white anyway and keep the top of the kyak all wood but I just want to know if you think that this method of fiberglass will hold up to the water??..i hear it is hard as a rock and substantial to the epoxy mix method...thank you for any advice and method of a better outcome
between your boats and that cave guy with his battle yak im getting tempted to try my own version .maybe a plywood catamaran with a foam hull attached like a rib?anyway thanks for the inspiration
Thanks for the sub! My son is still using his and loves it with no plans to change. I sold mine after my daughter bought me a boss 12 for fathers day this year. There are a lot of things i miss about it already but i am happy with the boss
Show de bola amigo! Também estou começando a fazer um Caique, gigante pra 4 pessoas, família toda e achei tope seu caiaque. Pena que não tenho grana pra fazer rápido, estou trabalhando ainda no projeto. Abraço!!!
NiteWolfe Fishing thanks so much for your response, I hope to make a build soon, and make lake Whitney its beautiful. I'm not too far away in college station
Hello, very nice kayaks, nice designs. I would like to build one. However I have a unique requirement. I need the kayak to be made in 2-3 pieces for transport. Any thoughts or suggestions on how I might achieve that? Thanks Steve
I know this is a year old, but if you haven’t already done it, have you considered using pvc pipe inset into one side, with a 3/4’” gap and pvc or plywood board with a hole drilled through in the other side to kind of “mortise and tenon” it together and put a sealed dowel rod through the pipe hole to hold them together? Pull them out and disassemble when you’re done? Not sure if it would work, but it was the first thing that came to mind when I read your comment.
Mine is on the heavy side about 80 pounds...But seeing how a lot of 12 foot fishing kayaks weigh close to or over 100 pounds i think i came out alright. Pretty sure i could lose 30 pounds if i had used light cotton like bedsheets instead of burlap. It took 5 more gallons of paint that my first version with bedsheets
for lightt impact the poor mans fiber glass works very well again. Its only enemy is sharp objects. Other wise these can take a decent impact from a sledge hammer and just bounce back.
Nice kayaks, thanks for sharing. Next time try mounting your camera on a tripod, I got sick watching these crazy movements with the camera in your hand.
Oh boo hoo. You didn't get actually sick from watching the video. Can't anybody just be an amateur anymore or do they have to get ridiculed for not being a professional on their first video. I didn't watch this because I wanted perfect the cinematography and editing I clicked on because I saw other skills I was interested in I'm just glad he documented them.and it's a shame more people won't document their amazing skills because someone will ridicule their video skills. Great work though basically built and $800 fishing kayak for probably a couple hundred bucks.... No excuses given
I would think grey pvc would have been a better choice. It is uv resistant. Just a thought. Nice project . Using a sweep might be easier and better then a 90 degree elbow too. So are you going to ad scupper caps on the rear bailers, and if so don't you think you should beef up the exterior surface to receive them ? Are you going to cap that front open hull, or add drainage to it ?
Thanks! Not sure about the grey pvc but since all the pvc is painted with exterior paint i am not worried about it. No plans to put caps on the rear drain suppers. They ride well above the water line even with a full load so no need to cap them. The yaks are open from the back of the front hatch to the back stern drains so any water that gets in the main part drains right out. There are front hatch covers on both now and as far as drainage for the front hatch there is a angled pvc drain going from the hatch down into the sonar well so it can drain. BTW all the rod pvc stuff was made from what i had on hand so i had to work with what i had.. Its actually reclaimed pvc from patio furniture that was being thrown on the curb. Oh and all that black paint has been replaced with flat white.. the black got far to hot in the summer for me. It didnt hurt the yaks but i really disliked burning my hand any time i touch it lol. I plan on doing a end of season walk around this week and talk about the lessons learned for the season with these and my planned changes before next season begins. Mainly i am adding the semi v to the bottom of mine and cutting ALL the runners on both down to 2in. 4 was way over kill, made for hard turning and added 2in of draft which hurt in our main shallow river.
Its holding up real well so far with tons of river abuse. No issues with the poormans really. Main reason i am thinking of going with real glass is weight. I think it will be lighter than my burlap poormans. If i had used a light weight cloth like linen then that would be lighter than the fiberglass but i didnt. I am sure its just in my mind that real fiberglass would be better. But i am very happy with the hull design and would like to make it permanent.
Ok, I've bought my rigid insulation and started cutting. Before I get much further can I just double check... is the deck of your boat just a single layer of 2 inch thick foam?
Poormans fiberglass. Its a combo of titebond 2 wood glue cotton based cloth (such as burlap or bed sheets) and exterior latex house paint. It doesnt get ridgid like real fiberglass. But it gets very tough while being water proof, uv resistant, flexible and highly durable.
Nice work. A few questions: Did you use expanded or extruded foam and did you cover the foam? I would like to build a small foam boat and power it with a 5hp outboard.
Hey sorry so long to respond, i have been underthe weather for a couple of weeks. I used eps foam sheets (expanded) and covered it with poormans fiber glass. which is organic cloth (i used burlap and bed sheets) and exterior latex paint.
I hope that you are feeling better. Extruded foam is expensive in South Africa so I will have to try expanded foam. I think that I should start off with a kick boat for bass fishing with a trolling motor.
I’m afraid that I have not started yet. Extruded foam is difficult to find in South Africa as we don’t really need to insulate our homes like they do in the USA and Europe. I’m not sure that I want to use expanded foam so I am thinking of making a skeleton of plywood and using two part expanding foam that is used in boat floatation. Lots of ideas - no action....
Barry P ive been watching some of Jeff spira’s easy to build boats range, then came across this video with the foam. Would possibly be lighter but i like the idea of a plywood frame mixture of foam. Better than spending $1500 on a chinese plastic one!
poor mans fiberglass... Titebond 2 wood glue on the foam hull, then some type of organic cloth like cotton sheets or in my case burlap cloth. Dont over do the glue. Its there just to stick the cloth to the hull. The heavy coats of exteriour latex house paint to soak through the cloth and seal the hull.
@@30CalCoreLokt My sons is going on 3 years now and have not had to repair it at all. We did give it a fresh coat of top paint via my paint sprayer. But just for looks. I sold mine last year when my duaghter bought me a boss 12 for fathers day. It was 3 years old then and was as good as the day i made it. In a lot of ways i miss that one. Thinking about building another but more solo skiff with a gas motor for striper chasing in our lake.
NiteWolfe Fishing , I enjoyed your video. Was thinking how aircrete might fill in the voids. 94 pounds portland ,6 gallons of water, 42 gallons of foam. For those of us with zero styrofoam we can pretty much cast our own lightweight and 100% floatable unique design.🙃😏🤔 Holy Shit, l just made all that up and yet l am inspired now to do it.🙋🏻♂️🙋🏻♀️🥳
Its cover in poormans fiber glass. Which is titebond 2 wood glue, then organic cloth. I used a combo of bedsheets for none wear areas and burlap for high wear areas. You only used enough of the glue to make the cloth stick. You do not want to wet out the cloth with the glue. The next step does that. The final coating is done with exteroir grade latex paint. At this point dont worry about color. SO buy the opps paint most places have gallons that they sell cheap that people didnt likethe color. You use thisto wet out the cloth and build it up. You can paint it later any color you like over the latex. Even spray paint works well once the latex has cured. This makes for a very tough, durable and flexable skin. Its only weakness is sharp objects/ Ot gets cut pretty easy. But since the inside is solid foam your not going ot sink or any thing and repair is as simple as soaking a piece of cloth in house paint ans covering the cut. Its pros are you can bounce off rocks all day long and have zero damage. I can literally hit this kayak wit ha sledge hammer and it bounces right back! But i would not recommend this covering IF your go any where oysters are. But if your in that ty6pe of place you could cover this in real fiberglass. But used epoxy resin so it doesnt meltthe foam. There is a way to use poly resin. But it invloves coating the whole hull in newspaper and white glue to keep the resin away from the foam.
Its been a while but around 200. There was a LOT of repurposing used to stay low on cost. Foam was from fencing supply company.. turns out they get 2 sheets of 4x8x2 foam on each pallet they are shipped as padding. paint was mainly opps paint, a lot of the pvc pipe and fittings were curb find pvc patio furniture. Oh and other than the burlap i did buy from walmart all the other cloth (in none wear areas) was garage sale sheets..go the last day of the yard sale and they often will just give stuff to you if you tell them what your doing with it.
Sorry for delay on response. I used poormans fiberglass. Its titebond 2 glue then cloth fabric ( i used burlap and cotton sheets) then exterior latex house paint.
My first time Kayaking and this Kayak held strong. ru-vid.comUgkx4k5UrhC3v_Y4hIEaXLGvHcN5a5aBmZNB The water got pretty rough as a speed boat zipped by me, and the Kayak withstood it (I expected to be capsized). The Ores are very easy to put together, the pump worked beautifully. the seats are a bit hard to sit in after a while (I recommend sitting on the floor). after reading the reviews I was very scared it'd get a hole in it, the material is very strong and durable. The Air valve may need a small Phillips head screwdriver to adjust, other than that, it's well worth the money!(update)I've gone Kayaking in 3 Lakes and 2 rivers totaling about 40 miles. the kayak had two holes and they patched easily and no other problems can't wait for kayaking season this year!
Thanks, They are skinned using poor mans fiberglass. Which is titebond 2 wood glue, then cloth (organic is best like cotton), then exterior latex house paint.
@@rossprivate5456 Thanks i have plans to do several more for the family. Once i get done with the kitchen remodeling i can start on them. I want to d oa ultra wide SUP/raft for my wife some thing 12FTx40IN. Then i want to do a couple of super light sups for me and my son. Super simple for throw and go river fishing. After that i want to make a solo type of skiff for chasing stripers with a gas outboard.
Not sure, i am 215, i have a c2 30 motor, plus a group 29 battery for it so about 100 for the motor and battery, Plus all my ice chest, tackle rods and lunch and it hardly notices it. Put my son (225) on board also and it didnt even seem to effect the waterline.
@@josephlarsen yep both of us at the same time plus all my gear andbattery. Not sure what the weight limit would be but i expect some were over 600 since with me, my son gear and 100 pounds of battery and motor it was still riding high.
@@NiteWolfeFishing oh that's awesome. I was considering going a few inches wider than yours but it sounds like I don't need to. I'm really hoping for one that i can ride with one of my kids possibly coming out as well for a little fishing. Now just to think through the layout that we'll use
@@josephlarsen Mine is 38 wide and i will admit that6s a little to wide for easy paddling. But i had planned on having az trolling motor from the start so its not a issue for me.
Inspiring. But, before I let my two sons con me into starting our own project and blundering into a big disaster, all the videos that feature really beautiful Styrofoam boat builds keep leaving out one really important detail that I can't seem to find any answers to. Just exactly what the hell prey-tell kind of adhesives, fiberglass laminating resins and paints is everybody using that doesn't dissolve the Styrofoam material? I'm retired & living expat fashion here in the philippines right on the beach where the cheaply built plywood fishing boats are hither & yawn & everywhere and sheets of Styrofoam of varying degrees of thickness are just an e-mail order away, but experiments with models before I start on a real one aren't exactly producing any encouraging results.
To glue the pieces together gorilla type glue, expanding foam in a can to fill any holes or pockets. As far as skinning them there are 2 options. I went with poormans fiberglass. Better than i can explain it look up sawfish diy kayak. Thats where i got my info from for my build. The other option is to use EPOXY based resin when you fiberglass (make sure your cloth is right for epoxy, some are good for both epoxy and poly resin. But not all. Epoxy will NOT get hot enough to melt the foam in the small amount it takes to wetout the cloth. Poly resin will melt the foam instantly. I have seen vids of kayaks built with poly resin. But they have to coat the foam with something before hand to keep the poly away from the resin and even then i have see a lot of defects where the poly soaked through there coatings. I guess you could epoxy the first coat, wait for it to cure then change to poly. Iam just now sure how well the poly would bind to the epoxy. I used poormans fiberglass on these. Then when i made outriggers for my newer kayak i did epoxy fiberglass over foam. Also foam is very popular for camper building and use the same processes. So you could also look those up. Hope that helps
@@NiteWolfeFishing Thanks for the response. Gorilla glue & alternatives as well as 'great stuff' are available at local retailers and I wouldn't be surprised if 'epoxy' resin is too as long as I can find a retailer with somebody who would understand the difference since they tend to call 'everything' epoxy here. They also have an epoxy based paste similar to bondo that's pretty popular with local boat builders that I found doesn't react with styrofoam that I think will bond well enough with resin once I can find some. If we can come up with something & put it together I'll see if I can DM you a pic. Respects....
For the first one i bought it from a styrofoam plant semi local to me for 15 a sheet. For the second one i found a fence supply company that had a whole storeroom of sheets. They can as pallet cushions for the supplies. I paid 7 a sheet for those. It was the same stuff and i picked out sheets that were in good shape. I plan to pick up 10 more sheets this spring for 2 projects i i want to work on over the summer. A extra wide kayak/sup for my wife and a lake skiff.
its skinned in poormans fiber glass. So titebond 2 wood glue onto the foam, then any cotton cloth goes onto the glue (i used burlap) Dont soak the cloth in the glue. Just enough so it sticks to the foam. Then you soak the cloth with exterior latex house paint (i used cheap mis tinted paint from box stores). The final blue color coat was a good exterior latex paint. At this point you could even use any spray paint since the latex in the cloth will protect the foam.
Thanks! They have held up really well. I was hoping to do some changes this year and didnt get around to it so they are being used just as they were last year. I have had to do zero repairs to any of the hulls themselves. Some minor i wish a had dome things a little different is all. I like the bottom on my sons better than mine and hindsight i would only make the runners 2in deep instead of 4. Since i ended up clam shelling the wheel legs around the side of the kayaks there was no need for all the extra inside support. Instead of wood blocks under the skin i wish i had used 1/2 hdpe cutting board. Little things like that. As far as peddle drive... If i had one i could make it fit and work. I am always keeping my eyes open for someone selling a drive cheap. I could always make the center sonar hole hald a system.
Sweet good to know, I'm renting a house right on Puget sound in a little bay maybe only a couple feet in the bay itself at most and the tide comes in and out so not always. Those boats r so expensive and I'm only month to month so this was a good option for me. The other choice was getting on from alibaba, I saw good ones for less than 1000 and pedal drives for decent prices too I just don't know if they will work.
@@justyalexandra2006 As a former alibaba shopper (I resold vape gear from there) i looked into those kayaks. The kayaks themselves are fine. Whats going to kill you is the shipping and customs fees. From last summers looking into them and getting quotes... Add 800 to 900 in fees to the cost of the kayak. Due to size mainly, It has to be shipped (literally on a ship) and cant just slide by customs as my vape gear did. So you will have to add import fees.
Thanks on the kayaks! No plans to stop, if they kill me then they kill me. I prefer to live life doing things i enjoy, not worrying about the one thing that no one can avoid... death.
@@NiteWolfeFishing I know a 97 year old man that chain smokes non filtered cigerettes. 5+ packs a day and still gets out and mows his lawn, gardens without any health issues. It's all in your DNA. Some folks die of heart attacks in their teens as well as cancer related deaths during their childhood years. Keep doing what makes YOU happy. To hell with living your life to please others.
@@Pr0ph3cy-k5z Thanks, yep my grandma lived to 97 and smoked like a old fright train lol. She died of non smoking related causes.. her mind checked out on her in the end. I watch a 24 year of health nut die of a heart attack once ( Yes i watched only because responders were already there). Here is what i know from the day you are born there is only one guaranty in life...... At some point you will die!!!! So we can live our life in fear of the one thing that can not and will not ever change. Or we can live ever day we have to the fullest and enjoy those days. Enjoy today for tomorrow is not promised!!!
