The Full Story of the FEV Lab - What Happened Here? Why Brian Virgil is a Hero 

Lol

Radiation sure did a number on swans...

Was spamming the VATS key like I usually do... saw an enemy called swan..... attacked it because I thought it was just a swan...

I realized that when hes in his ball, nothing can hurt him i learned the hard way. And of course it had to be with big boy and an mirv launcher.

I literally walked past him in the pond wondering what all the warning signs were for. Had a laser rifle as my only gun with ammo

Orders from the director

@@alidib9284 for a secret organization run by scientists, they don't seem to be the brightest bunch of lightbulbs.

@@JuanSolo9 I know

Old comment, but They wanted to save the other frozen Survivors in case Shaun was a failure. Kellogg Cereal acted out when they shoot Nora/Nate which you can see the Institute scientist with him look a bit flustered based on the body language. This is enforced by the fact Kellogg walks up to the players tank saying "We have a backup" Now I assume the other frozen residents were already dead upon Institute arrival due to the malfunction in life support or died after they secured Shaun thinking the systems would work as intended. Though if you read the logs in the vault the system would glitch out and not keep a resident frozen or would have other issues. This is how I assume we as the Sole Survivor end up getting out rather than dying like the rest. This glitch in the Vault's systems occurred years after Shaun's kidnapping. But in the logs all the dead residents died the same way. Lack of Oxygen due to life support failure. So either Residents died before the Institute showed up and only 2 pods were still functional with life support and people inside or The Institute was ignorant and believed the systems would hold and continue to operate despite their meddling.

@@francisharkins when you visit the memories of Kellog, he say that he donut know why kill the rest and no put in them in cryo stasis alain.

Good question!

Anthony Williams I have always wondered that.

He might have a hazmat suit stashed in cave.

Pretty sure he never intended to go back. He's using the Glowing Sea to avoid the Coursers coming after him. Think about it, Synths wouldn't be able to survive in the glowing sea so he's safe from retaliation from the institute if he stays there.

***** And the BoS, unless the SS is with them.

Official Goose Studios maybe strong was a cat. xD

Where did you find this information? What are your sources? I've been trying to find the milk human kindness for 3 years!! Give. Me. A. Location. Now.

Official Goose Studios new head canon

😂

Omar Mejia he’s joking

Atom is a lie, sister Gwyneth spoke the truth

Broke bois talking about basegame children of atom

Drelude far harbor is whack

@@hinchmiester9199 agreed

@@P3891 well, the atom isn't always fissible, that's right, but that revelation would make them want to detonate nuclear bombs instead of dying with them, and also, it could be considered a deity, Atom creates all life, atoms are the component of every single object or living being in the universe, that could also be worsipped, and radiation could simulate the power that Atom has, just as now. Then consider fission (Division) as a holy act, IDK, maybe instead of comulgate as christians do, they pray a reactor or detonate a nuclear device. That wouldn't interfere with the main faith or with the reality of an atom

Mc Uber Boss oh yeah. I saw the dead cats and almost ran out into the institute guns raised.

Where?

Elephant Warrior On this mission? In the institute? It's even in the video?

Too bad the Brotherhood also kills cats... What? They're trained to eat ANYTHING in the wasteland to survive.

Crimson Ichor Cats are way too fast for their bulky suits! Plus Danse would never kill a cat ;_;

Seconded, completely agree.

Brotherhood brotherhood

Not even gonna mention my boy fawkes huh?

no love for Lily?

Mankind - Redefined . Sorry even all the bad experiments and suferement the institute is better than the brotherhood of robbing tecnology and be racist

Oh my!

Oxhorn thats actually the real reason he left the institute. he wasnt allowed to fully be himself. so he exiled himself to pursue his dream of being the most bootilicious drag queen scientist

Damn

chikkin nuggit Funny because I found a "laundered denim dress" in that suitcase instead, lol.

I just found clean army fatigues under his shelf

Raymon Rodenburg 😂

Ill check that out thanks

Also, excellent video as always! Nothing makes my evening like seeing a new Oxhorn FO Lore video has been uploaded!

I realize this comment is 3 years old, but I thought of Flowers for Algernon myself watching this video, and you're the only other one to have seen the possible connection, so I just wanted to say kudos. I think you're right.

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Strong go back in your den

モ爪モ尺S工口れ 匕口匕丹ㄥ wut

*Grabs fat man* *goes on console* *shrinks Strong* *puts godmode on* *shoots Strong* and fuck this hit I'm out

try it bud our finest NCR snipers have their sights on you

Institute is humanity over the individual or ethics

Jesus dude...... it’s just fallout

K

Their are some members of the institute that are loyal to the institute that I actually like.

the institute is just vault-tec lite. they see the commonwealth as nothing but test subjects in one way or another. even if he opposes the FEV tests, he still condones them replacing people with synths.

Your current profile picture makes this so much better

@@0Yvonne0 robots have a fucking life idiot

I doubt it. The Institute has done terrible things, yes, but I highly doubt they would sink that low. Those were there likely just to see if the mutants knew how to use them, or just to see how would they react. Is it cruel to do that to a cat? Considering how rare they are, it's outrageous.

@@bluethunderbolt9631 "The Institute has done terrible things, yes, but I highly doubt they would sink that low." If I remember correctly, they murdered a parent trying to protect their child, kidnapped said child, and left the spouse (who was forced to watch it happen) to be frozen for another 60 years...

@@JuanSolo9 Minus the freezing parent part, it sounds like something that could be happening right now on an alleyway, in a city's suburbs. What the Institute has done to the SS is despicable. But it's nowhere near the worst thing they could've done. They could've got rid of Shaun after they got the DNA. But they kept him safe. Educated him. Look, there's not a shred of doubt in my mind that the Institute will kill kids if the situation calls for it. But I don't think they're cruel enough to experiment on children. They're isolated. To them, the outside world became expandable. They took your child away from you. But they kept him in safest place there is. The FEV experiment was horrible. But not unforgivable. Does it really make that big of difference? In their dungeons could've taken shelter raiders and Gunners. There still is danger. There's still the occasional lost Deathclaw, the random radscorpion attack, mole rats attacking from below... the only difference reallyare the behemoths. Although it is kinda nice knowing that if one takes shelter, people take notice and avoid said area, essentially creating a safe passage for the ones crazy enough to use them. But I'm getting off track. Is the Institute bad? No. Are they good? Still no. They're that awkward faction that falls in the middle. Too many bad things done for a good cause. The Institute under the SS has a lot to atone for.

fuck the institute. Wiping them off the planet is the best thing to do.

@@bluethunderbolt9631 they let loose super mutants loose on the Commonwealth they replace people with bassicaly android clones of saif person and have leveled towns for a item of theirs so yeah their very bad maybe not everyone in the Institute but the things they do harm more then help

Too much Overwatch, pal, his name is MacCready.

m'lady

Heh

For those too lazy, he says something to the effect of "We should be careful. Clearly no human being would ever stack books this way."

Never played Overwatch. I don't bother with filthy console peasant junk.

I agree I so very agree

All I know that according to the wiki Harden Simms has become the sheriff of Megaton in 2297 and that he would talk about his father’s death and blame it on the Lone Wanderer when drunk. It’s also been said that Moira Brown has also started working on the biography of the Lone Wanderer that same year. I think Sarah Lyons has also died somewhere between Fallout 3 and 4 but there doesn’t seem to be much information on this.

It would probably kill the myth

Thanks for watching!

hi Oxhorn, great video. what mod is used to have interactible / lootable objects with a white grow / outline? that is super useful

@@oxhorn sup ox

@@Discipol This is very late, but I'm pretty sure that's a perk.

@@ericamborsky3230 You’re almost 4 years late😳

I still joined. I wanted to end the brother hood and I just dont like the railroad they dont understand they're robots with no life

@@0Yvonne0 they're not robots with no life

@@solllua they're robots with no life

@@ITR933 they're not robots with no life.

@@0Yvonne0 but the robots die when they’re killed

Naruku2121 yeah screw all the innocent people that had nothing to do with FEV

Tech priest Jokes on you, me and the Minutemen evacuated the innocent ones. And gave some of the scientists setters jobs in Vault 88.

Naruku2121 still good Job destroying humanity best hope

Tech priest Or worst nightmare. But I guess that's how the game shines for us to have this debate.

+King Crimson None of them are innocent. If they're not guilty by their actions, they're guilty due to their inaction.

Because the world of fallout is a hellish world, and if you think something that is purely good and kind-hearted can survive out there you are wrong. Look at the state you find the minutemen in at the start of the game. Instead of focusing on "good" and "evil" you should focus on which faction is most likely to keep everyone alive long term. A faction like The Brotherhood of Steel with nukes and vertibirds and power armor going to war with everything that looks at them wrong adds far, far more to the likelihood of humanity wiping itself out. The institute avoids conflict and uses subterfuge to prevent it outright before it happens. While twisted and often making terrible mistakes in the past, the institute is still undeniably the best possible "new world government" to lead the earth back into an age of just not being dead. Not to mention, if the sole survivor is generally an alright dude gains control over the institute, most of their evil shenanigans would stop, especially with Kellogg being dead too. Nothing you could do to the BoS would make them any less of a war machine.. The future for that ending is not bright at all. And as stated, the minutemen would be dead with the sole survivor, and can be allied with any other faction, even the institute. The railroad really doesn't accomplish anything but that "feel good" ending, when at the end of the day the world is still a terrible place with no better future, unless you are one of a few dozen synths who felt enslaved. Many within the institute however were happy there, and had their homes and lives destroyed... Just saying, every story has two sides.

Ritesh Bansode

All these crimes against humanity covered up and kept under wraps in the institute, no one but the Director and the SRB chief likely know the true extent of the human experiments, the FEV lab was sealed off and likely was never open to the public.

Ritesh Bansode if you help them in fallout e it's considered bad so :/

***** Exactly!! You kill several of the evil people in it then take it over and can change it tons for the better! All in memory of your son! It's beautiful! Instead of blowing him up..

It is worse than that I think. The Institute could have contained the results of their failed FEV experiments by just terminating the muties right then and there. Instead these mutants were “discarded” ie released upon the Commonwealth to kill and eat who knows how many humans! Why did the Institute unleash these monsters upon the Commonwealth? Because Father believes that the Commonwealth is a rotten decrepit remnant of “humanity” that must die. X688 echoes this belief, claiming that “the sooner the surface dwellers die off, the better”. So, Father deliberately continued releasing super mutants hoping they’d exterminate all life on the surface.

@@brainconqueror8095 Father has stated he wants to save the surface, and he only thinks it's unsalvagable after he saw it in-person. Plus, Father had anticipated the Sole Survivor's arrival and didn't want to accidentally kill his own father, no pun intended

@@theinternetpolice2078 if that is the case, why not send Coursers to exterminate Swan and the other muties infesting the areas around Diamond City and Goodneighbor? So that it would be easier for you to find Nick Valentine and with his help, get to Kellogg? Or for that matter, why not have a scientist and some synth escorts be ready at Vault 111 when he released you, to safely whisk you away to the Institute? Why sit back and watch as you “trudge through the filth and decay of the Commonwealth” as X-688 so eloquently puts it? Father reveals why, on the CIT roof - you were just another experiment he was conducting. He turned you loose just to “see what happens” and was pleasantly surprised when you thrived and found a way to hijack the Institute’s transporter. He even states that he has no feelings of “love” for an abstract person that was his parent. He didn’t care about you, he only saw you as another tool to be used. And I suspect that him naming you Director to succeed him is his lasting legacy to the Institute - a final experiment in which they all are the subjects. Name a completely unknown person as Director and see what happens!

@@brainconqueror8095 Partially, but since the PC isn't really a scientist the only logical role for your character is to replace Kellogg. By killing Kellogg the SS becomes the new best hope as a surface operator and confirms the PC as a useful asset for the institute. Imagine convincing the board the PC is the man for the job, now imagine this guy single-handedly wiped out the single best operator they have and trekked all the way across the commonwealth to do it. Utility is gold for these guys so it makes the character a more legitimate fit for the institute. Remember, by the time you get to the institute you have killed not only Kellogg but at least 1 courser, at this point the SS is a serious person.

@@mattmcdonald7112 and then Father turns around and appoints the SS as the new director of the Institute!

probably unintentional, I'm pretty sure super mutants have been big and green since fallout 1

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Chenyuan Xie Super mutants are fucking everywhere Whos to say That the wild ones are just random supermutents. I would instead say the more notable mutants like strong are the actual Test subjects. The rest are just random grouped up mutants from around the wastelands.

Chenyuan Xie Super Mutants can make more though they'd need access to FEV, presuming the population would wander the US though. Still though there does seem to be to many.

sam raynes their must be More places churning out mutants. I mean we only know what The bottom half of the westcoast along with 2 states in the east(only really its just 2 citys and a small area around it. I would say we only traveled about 6% of all the US. There is still a lot of land And their are bound to be a lot more military bases, vaults, and laboratory's. And should these places go on for long enough the areas would eventually see mutants leaving for greener pastures....to cover in the blood of waster victim's

Gerald actully they make super mutants and put them on the surface and they cause problems for the people above so they carnt organise into a big group like they nearly did as if they did the entire commonwealth would be united and this means the synths getting things wo t be a efficient means as everyone will be better equipped and eventually they could launch a attack on the institute if or when they actully find it

Chenyuan Xie Just because a Mutant has a hound doesnt mean they are all from the same place. Just because I have husky doesnt mean i got it from the same place as my neighbor. Mutants Are shown to have a form of kinship with other mutants to the point that they treat eachother as brothers (with varying degrees of respect) And its shown that the mutant bands to keep Contact with eachother Amd its possible that they Give eachother hounds. Anyway it can also be Chalked up to gameplay-story segregation as why would the institute keep sending synths to a location after you wipped it out several times or why do forged keep returning after you killed them all several times. And why do they return To the same place everytime.

The Institute believes they're "the best hope" but that doesn't mean they actually are. It's what they tell themselves when they do all the various things they do.

Sinapus True, but all the factions do that.

Naruto Uzumaki i wish there was more stuff like that and also more story

But realistically if you were to do that you'd probably have the entire institute rise up against you, you can't just shut down their main research project. And from a story perspective, you might as well join the railroad since the whole point of joining a faction is which philosophy you agree with.

Super mutants in Boston/Commonwealth? I blame the institute, Shaun and Virgil The Broken mask incident? I blame the institute and Shaun Synth ( third generation ) Paranoia? I blame the institute and Shaun The Railroad is half destroyed? I blame the institute and Shaun University Point massacre? I blame the institute, Shaun and Kellogg.

That isn't about Oxhorn videos. That is every playthrough of fallout 4 and skyrim.

I loved Flowers for .Algernon

StarlightFromAbyss, They are still good when compared to the other factions in my opinion.

+Paladin Boyd Yeah, kidnapping people to turn them into supermutants is totally nicer than trying to save synths from violence, protect the settlements of the Commonwealth and protecting the citizens and technology of the US.

StarlightFromAbyss At the end of the Institute ending, you never specify if you want to continue the kidnappings (which were very rare) and you never specify if you bring harm to the commonwealth. You can basically use your own ideas on how it ends.

Morgalucci, Well it was to further scientific knowledge when compared to kill anything funny looking (The brotherhood and enclave) they are the good ones.

+Paladin Boyd "Well, the Holocaust's experimentation on twins was for scientific research..." Then we have the Brotherhood whom simply want to eradicate all hostile life forms and any possible remnants that could lead to furher chaos (supermutants, Institute synths, etc).

Finally someone else notices! I mean it COULD be because he's using a non stealth character but he could've at least sold it!

@@jacklong6106 Stealth boys are for non stealth characters.

@@jacklong6106 I never use stealth boys. Never understand why anyone does. If you are a sneak build you don't need it, if you are a strength build you don't need it.

I KNOW!!!

Stealth boys are so useless, when u use it your enemies still shoot at you as if you weren’t even using it

Happens bro 😢

i wanted to recruit him, when i made it to the head of institute didn't work, no dialog

Mute Phantom it was the humane thing to do.

But hes not human... hes a super mutant.

Funny thing is: If he transformes back into a Human, will he lose his Imunity to radiation too? So even if he is a Human again now, he will die on Radion Poisoning, if he survive all the nasty critters in the glowing sea, before he even arrive at its borders. xD At my first Play threw, I had found his cave before the Mission kicked in. He wasn't there, only his Defence Mechanisms. I destroyed them all and looted the Place and there weren't many Rad X or Rad Away there and no Rad Protection Suit ether. So, how will he come out of the Glowing Sea, or will he ever stay in that hole and dies there slowly on hunger, Thirst or radiation Poisoning?

Dokdiamant If u ask him he says that their are some side effects. Like increase muscle mass, rapid hair growth and possibly an Immunity to radiation?

Josh Hmm... possible... He will have to find it out the hard way. ^^

BBBHuey get started on that code

Like in the Shadow of Mordor right?

AND NAME IT CUDDLES!

FEVirus wouldn't turn people into ghouls.

@@mentallyderangeddoggirl incorrect but also kinda correct? Harold from fallout 1, 2 and 3 is ghoul like creature transformed by FEV, after leading an expedition to the maraposia military base. If he was or was not a complete ghoul, a psuedo super mutant or something completely unique (seeing as he can survive having his internal organs spread out across several miles) is up in the air, but if it matters in the mind of the writers of fallout 1 and 2 Harold is a ghoul, making him a ghoul created through FEV exposure.

The Eternal Chronicler Except for Fawkes, and Virgil, and Uncle Leo, and Erickson. Not to mention that in general the Commonwealth Super Mutants are more intelligent. They are more often capable of speech and have a better comprehension of ideas like weapons and armour considering that most have modified weapons and makeshift armour as opposed to CW Super Mutants who generally just use the default hunting rifles and melee weapons. The Commonwealth Super Mutants seem closer to the West Coast Super Mutants which makes sense as CIT would likely be given military grade FEV more akin to that found at Mariposa than whatever Vault-Tec got in bulk.

Fawkes, Virgil, uncle leo, and Erickson are exceptions not the rule. Intelligent? No super mutants in the Cw and the Commonwealth are just cannibalistic berzekers, who wish nothing but supermutant supremacy and make humans nothing more as pigs to the slaughter. The only difference between the CW and Commonwealth supermutant is that one knows a few more tricks and even that's arguable since one is stupid enough to waste a mini nuke trying to kill you. No all these deserve is a bullet to the head and even that's to generous a death.

The institute is rosponsible for the super mutants in Boston/Commonwealth. All super mutants are hostile and shoot everything that moves.

Marcus and Lily the only good super mutants. Also Fawkes and Erickson are good super mutants. F¤ck Strong.

The Eternal Chronicler super mutants in the commonwealth are more intelligent the the ones on DC but no where near first gen mutants in DC the mutants are much more gang like but in the commonwealth they have more structure but still savage beserkers

*Son

Mike haha

So you don't have to shoot through an assaultron

That's what I do everytime. I actually only know about that other area because I went in from behind to explore it.

if assaultrons give you a hard time, shoot their legs, believe it or not that is their weak point

^ Basically with Assaultrons, shoot anywhere BUT the head. The head is the most defended part. Assaultrons never gave me any problem though. My sniper could pretty much dismember them in one shot to the chest with his suppressed 50. cal AMR. Between full Ninja and Mr. Sandman giving me x4 sneak damage with a weapon that does a base 274 damage without upgrades, hell, Alpha Deathclaws and BOS Paladins would be lucky to not find themselves suddenly missing their heads after just one shot.

Not really true. If they can learn how to master the FEV, then they can greatly enhance strength and intelligence, while also making themselves radiation proof to survive the wasteland. If ANYONE in the Fallout universe can master it, then they will win. Simple as that.

Crimson Ichor They aren't exactly fond of the surface though, so much that I believe the created synths just so they don't have to go outside, regardless of why they wanted to master it.

+Kevin Darxide They don't hate the surface, they just hate the raiders and the worse parts of the Commonwealth. If they needed to go to the surface, they would. Hell, Father himself went right into the open by himself, where he could have been shot or enslaved by raiders. If it actually worked, they would use the FEV on themselves instantly.

The one thing they didnt do right? What about destroying all and any bonds of trust and love between humans? Ever witnessed the standoff between the two brothers in Diamond City? And btw what about killing someone and replacing him with a machine which you can control? I knew what I had to do.

Julkorn2 Two humans often do not change the entire world for the better, so scaling the institute with two humans is plain stupid. Of course you'll feel bad about those innocent people, and the FEV experiments cost hundreds of humans, but the institute lacked only one thing. Proper management. If directed by the right person they could potentially save thousands of lives. If these people managed to create a modified FEV that reverses the effects, then these people can potentially create a GECK. Now imagine GECK's used in the commonwealth, and a cure for super mutants. Some trust and a few dead humans would be nothing in comparison.

You won't now, the FEV program ended, you could make a good change.

Nope, the hundreds of mutants are still there, and far harbor has shown that a lot have left the commonwealth, good luck with that

Patrick On Drugs your the leader now you can change everything

Well the horrors that he was raised to believe were normal and right since the experiments took place well before Shaun was kidnapped, but when he became Father he still allowed it to continue. Whats funny is that Father is a huge example of nature vs nurture. He was Nurtured around the beliefs of the Institute which is why he is so resolute in their vision even to the end.

I realize that, just that one word is one of my pet peeves

Yeah, I've noticed a few of these affectational learned words popping up. I'd guess it's admirational emulation and mannerismic, I hope it'll pass like trend words of the past. (That would be 'rad') Another one that grinds my gears is "axe" instead of "ask". Each to their own... best to be tolerant

He might be tagged, but I doubt it was for the purpose of meeting you. Considering you can avoid meeting him entirely he's probably just another mutant that just happened to be smart enough to understand humans are stronger than mutants.

Just checked and saw an efficiency build video based on it. But a "Lived in" version would be cool.

Yesssssss que scary music

Dude, don't watch Oxhorn's videos if you don't want to hear words being butchered or misused. It happens in every single video. It isn't going to change.

delugesofgrandeur I know I just like to be that one asshole that does that

Thanks for the comment! I support the Minutemen, and I thin both the Institute and the BoS are evil. I will be tackling BoS topics in future videos. That said, I have a character that sided with each :P

Shaun the leader of the institute is your son so I joined him in my first play through

imm0dium I never looked at it that way but I battle for humanity in fallout. Trying to make peoples lives better.

Wesgu Meya institute seems to have biggest potential to recreate humanity. bos is just some military dudes, minuteman are basically farmers and railroad has nothing to offer they are just rebels. as ethically yes institute is wrong but if you become the leader of the institute you can make them better. stopin using gen3 synths as slave for example. that's why institute is the best choice.

I support the institute because I eventually become director and then I can do whatever the fuck I want with the commonwealth, be a benign dictator and all that ;).

Not really. I'm just applying Occam's razor. The solution that takes the fewest assumptions is probably the correct one. It is less likely that a kidnapped wastelander destined for FEV injection would have an opportunity to swipe cigarettes from an Institute scientist than another Institute scientist. It is less likely that all the "pet" cats in the lab died while Virgil escaped (which happened a room away), and more likely that the super mutants lying dead next to them had something to do with their deaths. You just made a huge assumption that a particular strain of FEV has a lower chance to mutate into a behemoth--why? Where is that found? Of course there are lots of possible answers, but my job here is not to showcase every possibility, but to use Occam's razor to select the most likely and build a probable narrative.

Oxhorn i like ur x6 suit it made you look like a stormtrooper cause its white ..... they need to make a gears of war mod it would look cool

If you read the text of the day 1 note, it strongly implies that Swan was a janitor, quite possibly resentful of the 'smartasses' running the place. He also shows a degree of contempt for the idea that what he's doing is punishment, comparing it to scrubbing floors all day. What's interesting is that there is apparently something appearing to be a justice system, given that there's a 'trial' mentioned. However, the actual experiment may predate the Great War, given that part of Edgar Swan's probation is to 'stay inside for a month, write something every day.' This implies that being outside was common, perhaps even normal for Edgar, which would be very odd, if he were part of the post-war, underground Institute. If it's pre-war, the trial could have been the apparently endemic societal corruption shown in the behaviors of a number of corporations and agencies, which seemed to have their economic fingers deep into most major levels of government and education. If C.I.T. needs human subjects that wouldn't be missed should something unfortunate happen to them, they make a deal to get somebody from the court system. Edgar Swan becomes an example of what happens to a minor criminal in economic jungle that was the Fallout world's America.

Oxhorn but you're not applying Occam's razor you're applying whichever solution happens to confirm your own bias