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"The future of animation and Grease Pencil" by Daniel Martinez Lara
Blender Conference 2018
Saturday 27 October at the Theater.
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@4mb127
@4mb127 6 лет назад
Grease Pencil is a breakout success. I want to thank these guys for having such a great forward vision.
@rahimpowell3508
@rahimpowell3508 5 лет назад
How much is Grease Pencil?
@PerErik87
@PerErik87 5 лет назад
@@rahimpowell3508 I'm afraid I have to dissapoint you Blender is totally free and you can't pay for it, the grese pen is a function in the beta, on their website(It's in the stable to with less functions). But if you wan't to pay, join the development fund.
@JonasViatte
@JonasViatte 5 лет назад
I'd be so happy if hand drawn 2D style comes back to big films and 3D studios =D!
@RevRyukin7
@RevRyukin7 5 лет назад
Spider-verse is the way of the future tbh. It's superior, visually, to pretty much everything 2D animate... ever...
@GribGFX
@GribGFX 5 лет назад
I disagree Raptu Jragon Producing. 2d animation can look better and it has. For example; Redline, Mob Psycho 100, One Punch Man, All quality character animation in old 1990's Traditional animated movies from Disney and Dreamworks and don't even get me started on how beautiful Kizumonogatari is. I believe Spiderverse is the start of the mix of 3D and 2D animation coming together properly.
@diocre7446
@diocre7446 4 года назад
Akira is the Elixir of Anime.
@cashboston166
@cashboston166 3 года назад
Pro trick: you can watch series at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching all kinds of movies during the lockdown.
@augustusnova8245
@augustusnova8245 3 года назад
@Cash Boston Yup, have been using flixzone for years myself =)
@IIIspirit
@IIIspirit 6 лет назад
I love how such bold experimentation is possible in open source applications, what a great tool this is, wonder if sculpting can get ideas out of it, and use some of the code too
@xox8717
@xox8717 5 лет назад
once everything nodes and asset manager projects are added , they will make ever thing better, and soon grease pencil will work with both Cycles and EEVEE so u can have grease pencil object interacting with 3d environment/ lighting....etc the possibilities are endless
@Zyragonn
@Zyragonn 5 лет назад
Ive been animating in flash for years and i came into conclusion that it would be nice to just make some half 3d half 2d animating style, and now i found blender! You are my saviours!
@dieabsolutegluckskuche5174
@dieabsolutegluckskuche5174 4 года назад
How is it going?
@Zyragonn
@Zyragonn 4 года назад
@@dieabsolutegluckskuche5174 I went back to adobe xD
@dieabsolutegluckskuche5174
@dieabsolutegluckskuche5174 4 года назад
@@Zyragonn the new blender updates are even more awsome
@tunaroll3957
@tunaroll3957 5 лет назад
I was never able to get into Blender due to its weird UI.. up until the newest 2.8 beta.. OMG! what a lights year of improvement in UX and UI! Congrats Blender team!
@brunaf.1842
@brunaf.1842 5 лет назад
This gonna change the industry!!
@benceze
@benceze 5 лет назад
This is great because modelling & rigging creates the uncanny valley in human characters & 2D drawing gives everything a stylised effect. Just have to brush up on my drawing techniques & the only limit is my imagination.
@MrDanINSANE
@MrDanINSANE 5 лет назад
I hope to see a better brush-engine like in other 2D software, it feels very limited now. But the idea of 2D inside Blender is still an amazing thing, keep up the good job!❤️
@drewwellington2496
@drewwellington2496 4 года назад
(commenting 1 year later, the new brush strokes happening in 2.9 are blissssssssssssssss)
@artedesing
@artedesing 4 года назад
I'm studying Blender 3D in depth, I dropped Maya 3D and I see that the future will be 3D Blender worldwide, not because it is free, but because it has a team that thinks a lot ahead and that makes all the difference for 3D and 2D artists a lot. thank you for freeing me !!!
@HowIDraw
@HowIDraw 5 лет назад
So amazing! Like combining hand draw illustrations in a claymation like enviroment. Sign me up!
@HowIDraw
@HowIDraw 5 лет назад
@Tactical Exosuit Hey there! I totally appreciate it. So many thanks for following. :)
@GlebNikolaevskii
@GlebNikolaevskii 4 года назад
The best thing is... IT’S FREE
@DavidBrown-sp6hm
@DavidBrown-sp6hm 5 лет назад
Ive done both 3d and 2d and found limits for each and wanted to combine them myself. Imagine not having to learn warped perspectives without rotoscope......whaadddd this is just wow
@prav2432
@prav2432 2 года назад
my message to blender community: *don't stop !*
@mb.3d671
@mb.3d671 5 лет назад
yes! an artist dream come true in 2019!! historic
@pushanjoardar3185
@pushanjoardar3185 5 лет назад
BLENDER 2.8 is a fantastic software!!!!
@gisellemarte
@gisellemarte 2 года назад
this is so freaking exciting because I just started learning blender and im inlove!!! I want to learn grease pencil so to combine 2s and 3d together. I love how community based this program is.
@pm1234
@pm1234 5 лет назад
Finally! My Vive was waiting for this for a long time (and I can sell my OSVR HDK2 if someone is interested). I bought Gravity Sketch and it has nice features. Real time lip sync and facial expression while animating are next :)
@Silvanor0
@Silvanor0 5 лет назад
When traditional 2d drawing page to page evolves to this.....We know soon that animation will change forever in the future if it evolves even more.
@keshav_p
@keshav_p 5 лет назад
U are going to be a major part of the story of many animation companies.. and talented people who couldn't afford much at their age...really a great effort!
@Omegawerewolfx
@Omegawerewolfx 5 лет назад
the environment @16:32 is flat out amazing, the way the reflection changes in the water.....just fantastic
@FuriousTedyBear
@FuriousTedyBear 5 лет назад
I feel very proud of myself that I can somehow make out 90% of what he's saying. This when an accent is cool and convenient he sound smart.
@m.tayyab6952
@m.tayyab6952 5 лет назад
Love you blender,,,
@fioreirving
@fioreirving 5 лет назад
This was fantastic! Saw Glen Keane do something like this and I’ve been DYING to try it. Already started yesterday and it works great. I love animating, don’t really care about specialty brushes and all that nonsense. I can animate with a notepad and pencil. This is amazing because it moves in 3d space with a 2d look. Exactly what Keane said is the future of 2d
@jaythermo6937
@jaythermo6937 5 лет назад
ok I have to say this which may be nothing to anyone else but I so taking a back when I saw Daniel Lara on this video, a little history I remember starting out using 3d software during 97-99 and he had a small website with a few snimation and still from working on MAX i thought it was the coolest thing because he made pepe when he was in recovery in the hospital. 3D was a whole different world back then Now I'm watching blender tutorials to see he did Hero it's like whoa... that's cool. (I had more to say but for the sake of typing, time and etc) memories ahhhh..
@ezrolly898
@ezrolly898 5 лет назад
Goodbye Toon Boom. Goodbye TVPaint.
@tobymdev
@tobymdev 5 лет назад
nuuuu tv paint is the best for pixel art
@kizz06
@kizz06 5 лет назад
@@tobymdev however its a nightmare for compositing
@tobymdev
@tobymdev 5 лет назад
@@kizz06 performance wise it does falter, but it has a really straight forward interface
@kizz06
@kizz06 5 лет назад
@@tobymdev except for the multiplane camera...
@tobymdev
@tobymdev 5 лет назад
@@kizz06 hahahahha i agree with that.
@WARDISWARD
@WARDISWARD 5 лет назад
I remember his tutorial scen for 3d max 5 , pete something with an army helmet Great to see him using blender now
@J-Hue
@J-Hue 5 лет назад
I like the look and potential of it a ton. The 3d depth it captures stands out the most to me.
@ZipDraw
@ZipDraw 5 лет назад
I've been playing with it for days now. It's been fun.
@JasperCousins
@JasperCousins 5 лет назад
I'm so glad to see one of the big modeling softwares embracing VR, especially as its Blender, my favorite of them :)
@tecnoblix
@tecnoblix 5 лет назад
This feels like a real-time creative video game generator. Not generating games, but image rendering. Very cool.
@vagizz
@vagizz 5 лет назад
I worked some years back as a 3d artist in tripleA and now Im a 2d guy for casual games. Im into animation while im not strictly animator so this is perfect for me.
@jascrandom9855
@jascrandom9855 5 лет назад
18:15 That looks like straight out of The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. Its Absolutely Beautiful.
@Drstrange3000
@Drstrange3000 4 года назад
I know right! My jaw dropped. So stunning!
@toonflix3757
@toonflix3757 5 лет назад
For me it doesnt really matter if blender team has a deadline or a release date for the final release blender. it doesnt matter at all u can take ur time and build it for the better. blender team is giving all of their efforts for the sake of all of us and note this is for free blender team should take all the credits from their blender users. Im sure in the next few months or years after this release all of their efforts will paid off.... Kudos.
@webgpu
@webgpu 5 лет назад
Nothing like a good animation in "BR" (Birtual Environment, in spanish)
@hozcar30
@hozcar30 4 года назад
It's "Virtual"
@igorjee
@igorjee 4 года назад
¡Yesss, Birtual Enbairomen!
@RhysChristian490
@RhysChristian490 5 лет назад
This is so fucking sick! I’m squirming to get my hands on it! And bless this guys heart for trying so hard to speak English! ❤️
@RTX-zo2yc
@RTX-zo2yc 5 лет назад
blender you are amazing,,i love you and Daniel Martinez Lara good job i can see my future with blender
@JoshuaMerrill042
@JoshuaMerrill042 5 лет назад
keep up the good work guys!! 2.80 is already awesome and we are all looking forward to the final release! -- P.S. Right Click Select Forever!!
@hombreerana
@hombreerana 4 года назад
"okay?" -Daniel Martinez Lara, 2018
@Nikki-os2df
@Nikki-os2df 5 лет назад
Blender 2.8 changes everything. Awesome!!!
@dagoelius
@dagoelius 3 года назад
This will be amazing in the hands of someone who can truly draw.
@Chromiumg
@Chromiumg 5 лет назад
I wish he didn't talk over the whole two minute thing by Disney.
@sigrid714
@sigrid714 5 лет назад
PoseVR looks interesting but it's only an R&D project right now. I've only played around with a few of the early software tools out there so far, but I dream of the day we can see true VR posing tools in Blender. It is just so much more intuitive to pose models in native 3D space in VR while you can see them as lifelike objects in front of you, than posing them in only 2 dimensions at a time on a flatscreen. Best I can describe it is like the difference in trying to paint realistically using a mouse and juggling opacity/diameter hotkeys, vs painting it with a pen tablet screen like Clintiq with pressure sensitivity. It's just a more natural interface.
@Will-vj5bc
@Will-vj5bc 5 лет назад
I loved this guy's performance in the Ice Cream Man.
@RamiSlicer
@RamiSlicer 5 лет назад
Grease pencil sounds very useful.
@_yuri
@_yuri 5 лет назад
it is dude and it is only getting more stable and faster
@eritreanism
@eritreanism 5 лет назад
I applaud anyone learning to speak more than one language, but when you are trying to pitch and idea like this, you need to make most of your minutes on the stage to sell your idea smoothly, but his English was a major drawback.
@julianwildauer
@julianwildauer 5 лет назад
Thank you so much devs!❤️
@dante_ele
@dante_ele 5 лет назад
This is amazing. I find the animation a but stuttering. But overall this tool is freaking amazing.
@sigrid714
@sigrid714 5 лет назад
Wow cool, just noticed the music for Hero was composed by Oscar Araujo, the same guy who wrote the Castlevania Lords of Shadow soundtrack
@masterneme
@masterneme 5 лет назад
So this is basically Tilt Brush but better.
@xox8717
@xox8717 5 лет назад
yep, and soon grease pencil will work with both Cycles and EEVEE so u can have grease pencil object interacting with 3d environment/ lighting....etc the possibilities are endless
@maelstrom2313
@maelstrom2313 5 лет назад
Yep, I knew there was a reason I hadn't bought Tilt Brush yet. It seems closer to a toy than a tool.
@curtandrewsjr.8163
@curtandrewsjr.8163 4 года назад
Someone remembers Tilt Brush? 😮
@Hunty.
@Hunty. 4 года назад
The only problem I have with it is that a lot of it really looks 3D it doesn't have the same visual effect. I hope that someday there can be some type of tech that allows people to animate the way you do in 3D with keyframes. I know rigging exists but it can only do so much in 2D. It can't really handle perspective changes.
@puravida2851
@puravida2851 4 года назад
Blender is a magical place
@hanswesker8455
@hanswesker8455 5 лет назад
Mr. Lara is a top-notch presenter!
@technofeeliak
@technofeeliak 5 лет назад
I found it difficult to understand this man and there are some significant technical problems with this video. While I appreciate the effort that goes into these presentations and the management of this channel I think quality is important.
@technofeeliak
@technofeeliak 5 лет назад
@Raphael Barros Yes, he says at the very beginning that he's from Barcelona and his very strong accent makes it obvious too. It's actually very charming, but I have to listen very closely to understand his words. There's nothing wrong with expecting to have an attentive audience, but I had so much trouble that I was about to skip this video entirely after a minute. I understand the Blender development team is a small community, but when presenting concepts to the entire world I think the delivery and quality can be improved upon. I'm not making a racist comment, I'm only pointing out what is obviously less than desirable about this video. But of course, someone has to defend this man's integrity as a contributor to the project as if that's what my comment was about. Look, I can speak both French and English, but I wouldn't feel comfortable with my less than perfect French to be a spokesperson for a product. If I were to stand in front of an audience and the world, believe me, I would make how I organize myself and speak a priority. Maybe, just maybe, someone who is more comfortable should be speaking on behalf of Blender. That's probably not in line with the spirit of what's being done, and I do recognize as I said that this is a community effort... but I think at the very least, someone with video editing skills should be cutting the video down, removing the frozen frame that appears for a few minutes at the end... If this doesn't make sense to you and you feel attacked personally, I think that might reflect on the kind of problems Blender 2.8 is likely to suffer from. I mean, how many years did it take before the right click default which everyone was having difficulty with was actually addressed? Anyway, I'm only talking about professionalism. Raising the bar a little. Making what's said clear... please and with all due respect.
@technofeeliak
@technofeeliak 5 лет назад
@Raphael Barros I'm only doing what you're doing... interpreting, not making up a strawman. If you read my first comment, I spoke for myself saying that I had a hard time understanding what this man was saying. I'll point out that your reaction was to say that he made an important contribution to this tool and that you believe he's Spanish... so... his integrity... his nationality or race or culture. Why would you need to make a case for him anyway? I've also notice you didn't agree with me where I'm talking about the error in the editing process. Look, I just want these presentations to improve that's all. No one was hurt in the writing of my comment. ;)
@firstnamelastname-pd6nj
@firstnamelastname-pd6nj 5 лет назад
I can understand the accent perfectly but his use of "uhhh..." every 5 seconds is incredibly annoying
@technofeeliak
@technofeeliak 5 лет назад
@@firstnamelastname-pd6nj, well I don't want to pick in this man... but yes oh my God. If it's about getting a message across to the world then... a little refinement maybe? A tiny one? I'm only speaking for myself here. I need something clear... my excuse is that I'm supposed to be autistic and so I'm overly sensitive to these kinds of things.
@kira_15_R3D
@kira_15_R3D 5 лет назад
I agree, and practicing pronunciation is not really that hard, I was raised in barcelona as well, I just write the words on google translate and analyze the sounds and repeat the pronunciation until I get it right. My accent doesn't sound spanish, it used to, but I practiced with observation, trial and error. A Bristish man told me that my accent is like a mix between british and american. And there's no problem in understanding what I say when I talk to english speaking people.
@allan5996
@allan5996 4 года назад
I love seeing this stuff in VR! its amazing!
@nesnahmik
@nesnahmik 5 лет назад
The artwork is just awesome
@CaybyJ
@CaybyJ 5 лет назад
This is the kind of concept that other poor mainstream 2D/3D hybrid animations should've had.
@ZeyuRen
@ZeyuRen 5 лет назад
This kind of technology changed my life
@yumri4
@yumri4 5 лет назад
I think he got the VR thing correct for how it should be done not how it is done right now. I am hoping Blender can take VR for both the design side and consumer / output stage better.
@joshuasindiga1788
@joshuasindiga1788 5 лет назад
Grease Pencil, this is wonderful, i need to learn this.
@scottmartin7717
@scottmartin7717 5 лет назад
This looks so wonderfully badass
@dedouze
@dedouze 5 лет назад
Very inspiring conference ! Anyone knows which artist is the london VR scene from ? at 17:15 ? Would be nice if the video could link to all the videos in the description
@FlyinBoi
@FlyinBoi 3 года назад
Whoa its the blender king of 2d 3d animation
@RobertHildebrandt
@RobertHildebrandt 5 лет назад
16:32 I love this scene. Does someone know the full name of the artist?
@TechCarnivore1
@TechCarnivore1 5 лет назад
Nobody knows... :(
@Sam-rz3rd
@Sam-rz3rd 5 лет назад
18:19 Does anyone have any info/links on the artist that the CC tells me is "Goro Food Eater"? EDIT: LOL it's "Goro Fujita"
@trentkuhn
@trentkuhn 5 лет назад
hes also a food eater
@adevilscupoftea
@adevilscupoftea 5 лет назад
I'm still in a dream FOOD EATER
@elKachivache
@elKachivache 5 лет назад
Funny thing, in my subtitles it was translated as Gordo Fujita (FAT Fujita in spanish) LOL XD
@janfellstrom
@janfellstrom 5 лет назад
Interesting! I must try it ... In my dreams. Great if you are a 20-year-old animator.
@unaddan
@unaddan 5 лет назад
Beware, Blender is conquering
@cctrevisani
@cctrevisani 5 лет назад
I wish I had drawing skills to play 2d animations in a 3d environment like those beautiful short examples. Saúde Blender.
@thatdudeguy7176
@thatdudeguy7176 5 лет назад
Pick up the pencil start drawing then
@the_grass_trainer
@the_grass_trainer 5 лет назад
HERO was AWESOME! Braaah!
@migmindy
@migmindy 5 лет назад
INCREDIBLE. yes yes yes, that looks brilliant
@johnw3194
@johnw3194 5 лет назад
Please improve the sculpting stroke curve to be more customizable, or allow us to use our own curves.
@torinux4980
@torinux4980 5 лет назад
Wait, WAIT a fucking minute... I had a hard time understanding what this guy said, but are you telling me this is 2D animation? but developed in a 3D ambient? holy shit!
@Fby02
@Fby02 5 лет назад
Oh my god this is amazing.
@suzeal
@suzeal 5 лет назад
3d + 2d = very fun and good
@ghostheadnow9628
@ghostheadnow9628 5 лет назад
Holy cow.....this is the future? damn....
@zona8843
@zona8843 5 лет назад
Wow i can take a walk in wonder land, this is more like a game than watching movie
@Ntorial
@Ntorial 5 лет назад
It will be great competition. Since adobe also starting project aero
@rabbithunterx6213
@rabbithunterx6213 5 лет назад
hahaaa that fucking hero story shit lol, was a bit "hey how do we know this is the good guy.. how we know this is the bad guy" but then.. it's a buncha hippies!! BRILLIANT! .... ... :p
@rodgerdavis4499
@rodgerdavis4499 6 лет назад
Would be cool to see the grease pencil have actions like armatures. Actions would be easier to place in the timeline or in the NLA editor.. Another plus would be libraries for poses of a certain features, for instance like a mouth or an eye shape.
@josephbrandenburg4373
@josephbrandenburg4373 5 лет назад
Grease Pencil can totally be rigged to an armature.
@skidfrog
@skidfrog 4 года назад
I saw a clip about 2018 on using grease pencil to draw freehand 3D set designs that looked great but now I can't find it now ! Buildings / alleys....rock forms etc. ( no symmetry ) . I presume it would be necessary to build a rough low poly model and draw over it.....but how to draw "in the air" evades me ! Any tips or tutorials on that area of expertise similar to that beautiful London set !? Thanks !
@gavinalan
@gavinalan 5 лет назад
Walt Disney Animation Estudios
@TheJobCompany
@TheJobCompany 5 лет назад
OMG That's so bright!
@josephbach1
@josephbach1 5 лет назад
drawing the environment and the perspective is really cool but the character itself i don't know i think it is still faster in 2d. But the environment i can't wait i already love 360 painting and drawing.
@jascrandom9855
@jascrandom9855 5 лет назад
Doesn't look like any more hard work than the traditional way.
@Fadetoblackcollective
@Fadetoblackcollective 4 года назад
THIS IS AWESOME
@PhysicsMosses
@PhysicsMosses 4 года назад
Glad!
@entheogenetic
@entheogenetic 5 лет назад
"Clint Howard's" accent is a little thick, but these are exactly the same points I've been hoping would continue to be endorsed - More VR integration PLEASE - eliminate the archaic MOUSE AND KEYBOARD HCI we are WAY too dependent on - it will launch the correct direction of ideation for many/all current and future creators and imagineers
@christophermoonlightproduction
This is so mind-blowingly exciting for me. I'm an After Effects and Photoshop user and have never worked in a real 3D software before. How do I start? (That's an open question to anyone because I realize that everyone has their own preferred jumping off point.) I often use live video footage to onion skin against, to get the movement and timing I want. Is that possible here? Is this something that people can pick up on pretty fast? Is this part of Blender now or is it an update that's coming soon? I'd love to join that training program. Thanks.
@JorgitoInSpace
@JorgitoInSpace 5 лет назад
You can place images and story board in 3d also
@christophermoonlightproduction
@@JorgitoInSpace Cheers. That's fantastic. So I can take a Tiff sequence and import it to roto against a 3D setup? I was thinking of rigging a 2D looking character with a 3D rig and then move it through an environment much like at the 16:50 mark.
@blenderpanzi
@blenderpanzi 5 лет назад
@@christophermoonlightproduction Yes, you can use background images. They can use an image sequence as source. However, the current beta build of blender 2.80 seems to be a bit broken and the "Auto Refresh" option does nothing, so you have to click the refresh button on every frame change to see the correct image from the image sequence. So animation of these background images doesn't work at the moment. I'll report a bug...
@christophermoonlightproduction
@@blenderpanzi Thank you, and thanks for reporting it. I really appreciate that.
@LetTheWritersWrite
@LetTheWritersWrite 5 лет назад
This is only going to get better with 2.8 too!
@jonschroth
@jonschroth 5 лет назад
Awesome. Anybody know what the Stylized Street Scene at 17:08 is from?
@oudiboudib3563
@oudiboudib3563 5 лет назад
When a free software beat all expensive software out there
@joeredtree
@joeredtree 5 лет назад
in future iterations, would it be possible to couple grease pencil with the 3d models, like in disney's "paperman"? so far i have not seen any 3D animation tool available to the general public capable of doing something like that.
@frostreaper1607
@frostreaper1607 5 лет назад
Welp, looks like you need a VR set for the good stuff (14:40) tried doing this with a wacom but it just places strokes wherever it pleases D: Guess I'll have to wait. PS going to agree, a way of rigging those 2D painted 3D characters would be extremely amazing.
@MrAnvith1993
@MrAnvith1993 5 лет назад
Good bye too boom, animate, and tvpaint
@Skyefaux
@Skyefaux 5 лет назад
HELL YEAH!!!!! VR grease pencil!!! I need
@tanner.fletcher
@tanner.fletcher 5 лет назад
@14:45 like a "poopet" (puppet) hahaha lol
@alexbusoni
@alexbusoni 5 лет назад
The cartoon style is similar to the game Jet Set Radio! made by Cell Shading technology
@Cybernaut551
@Cybernaut551 3 года назад
私の期待が満たされています。
@someguyscribbles2961
@someguyscribbles2961 5 лет назад
count how many times he said "eeeeeeee" or "aaaaaa"
@Hyper5nic
@Hyper5nic 5 лет назад
Okay :-) very exciting stuff! And very much looking forward to what happens next! For editor: Maybe you can fade then cut the last 3 minutes off with grease pencil. ;-) Also, when in January 2019 is this Grease Pencil Training happening, where and how to get on board?
@安康-y4x
@安康-y4x 5 лет назад
i want cry , so nice and thanks!
@AdamBechtol
@AdamBechtol 4 года назад
SOOO COOOOL!
@ml3054
@ml3054 5 лет назад
ToonBoom have exactly the same tools you see here in blender demo, i mean the camera and the multi layer composting in distance for creating the parallax effect, and the shape morphing you can do with vector drawing tools, the only new thing here is using the VR data to draw the backgrounds, i don't see ground breaking breakthrough here, correct me if i am wrong ?!!!
@PolyCrest
@PolyCrest 5 лет назад
Awesome presentation
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